Should Denmark and the EU start converting container ships onto makeshift destroyers by installing radars and containerised VLS cells and CIWS in order to face the US Navy in Greenland? The European shipbuilding industry is in a lot better shape than the US
>>64769473pry-tell, where are they going to get those radars, NLS cells, and CIWS?
>Spammed another threadJust give it up and go back.
>>64769473Why the fuck would EU do something so retarded
>>64769483Airbus, MBDA, Thales, Rheinmetall, Hensoldt, KDA?
>>64769473look at that beautiful brown water.
>>64769483THALES, which can make AESA radars and top tier sensors. Reminder that even the F-22's new HMD is being made by them: https://www.twz.com/air/f-22-raptor-finally-getting-a-helmet-mounted-display
>>64769473The industrial machinery needed to make your missiles, chips, radar, ...Comes from the EV
>>64769483They could do a lend-lease program from thier friends in the USA.
>>64769489China tier port water. Probably has raw sewage in it.
>>64769473Europe is not under existential threat so it doesn't make sense to fight. Yew, we're going to take over all of Europe and make them vassals but they're white so we'll take care of them.With China the point of the invasion will be to crush them. They'll be lucky if we allow them to have electricity.
>>64769506>China tier
>>64769510there 100million mexicans in america.You already lost.Its over, you wont do shit and wll drown in a sea of shit
Deal with the spam jannies.
>>64769556What spam?
Implessive
>>64769473Nah just spam frigates. Cheap, efficient VLS platform, flexible in deployment, many shipyards in Europe can build them.France is developing a better VLS system that all Euro navies can adopt.
>>64769473Why even attack the navy? If they want to do anything with Greenland they have to land and setup bases. Wait for that, ventilate those.
We need more submarines. America will lose their appetite for war quickly after their aircraft carriers along with thousands of sailors rest in their cold watery graves.
>>64769515Proving me what, right? Clever girl.
>Chink thread combined with Western division posting
>>64769666>We need more submarinesImplying the USA didn't own the subsurface oceans before you were born. Your noisy boats don'ts tand a chance. Putz.
>>64769674Except in war games European and even Canadian subs regularly score kills on your carriers. >war games don't count its irrelevantYou should email the Pentagon your revelation, imagine how much money they could save by not doing useless war games.
>>64769674Diesels can and do regularly make kills on exercise against "interesting" targets. It doesn't have to be a marching band to be a useful tool.
>>64769473Trump won't do shit, he backed out and is just implementing pointless tariffs instead. With some luck the US will start being less retarded after the mid terms.
>>64769473>look at my retarded Q-ship that's going to cause mass chinese starvation because all containerships heading in and out of china are now acceptable military targets.the reason the EU would never do this is because they're not retarded like you are, chinkshill.>inb4 s-seethingyou're seething just by continuing to spam these threads, your very presence on this board is proof that you're mad lol.>>64769678>doing useless war gamesthe point of wargames is to challenge yourself with the most unrealistic worst scenario possible, not coddle yourself with how you expect the war to go.in these sub scenario's the sub basically has to get lucky and sit there like a seamine waiting for a csg to pass overhead of them which they would have no chance of catching up to.in reality csg's make constant erratic maneuvers to prevent this from happening, and the subs aren't going to catch up to the fleet from behind, especially not without revealing themselves, and they can't speed past them and position themselves ahead, they can only put themselves on 1 of a number of routes they think the csg might pass through and get lucky.
>>64769704>akshually, we lose on purpose heh
>>64769713>i don't understand how wargames work and need to get a cool quip inwe already knew that.
>>64769519>100 million More like 40, sybau.
>>64769713>look at this rafale get a gun kill on a F22 lol rafale is a better aircraft than F22 lol>reality >rafale gets it's shit pushed in by F16 knockoffs A single US carrier could kill most of the EU's airforce.
>Europeans: Hey look we made this thing that is kinda good>Americans: NO ITS FUCKING SHIT OUR THING IS MUCH BETTER NOW IM GONNA KILL YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE This is how every thread like this goes.Americans are so thin skinned about their military prowess that even a microscopic pushback makes them react like you just slapped their mother at the dinner table.Delete this fucking thread.
>>64769473
>>64769666>we beat u 20 years ago in a wargame so we will win!and you think the USN walked away from that wargame and did nothing with the experience they gained?
>>64769758Yes of course only the US learned something from these war games.
>>64769510>but they're white so we'll take care of them.Mutts taking care of things... grim fate indeed.
All Trump wants you to do is put more troops in Greenland you fucking mongoloids.
>>64769473We should place a lot of mines at the US routes.
>>64769557>Our turdie shills have terminal TDSIts clear that yoinking Russian oil has soured the browns opinion on orange man
>>64769761sweden is broke as shit they cant afford more subs. also the idea that america would become an aggressor was basically an impossibility until this year.
>>64769510>but they're white so we'll take care of them.Mutts taking care of things... grim fate indeed.>>64769678>>64769682This was the case in the 2000's, but the US learned a lot from that and if memory serves, conducted some very serious traning with the Swedes to develop doctrine to counter this.I'm not saying it would be impossible, but sinking a carrier would be hard.
>>64769473We should sink ships in the Nuuk harbor and erect a giant sign saying "Release the Epstein files"
>>64769750>europeansthis is a thread about a shitty chinese Q-ship that has been spammed relentlessly for the last few months lmao. i'm not even an american, i'm tired of this dumb shit being spammed too.
>>64769510>i am a third worlder trying to D&C shill because i desperately need westerners to be distracted from absolute thirdie humiliationlol, you're not an american.
>>64769483China would sell them some.
>>64769803no, because euro's aren't retarded and wouldn't build Q-ships, unlike the chinese.
>>64769767>muh TDSI see that Pakistan has entered the chat
>>64769473Turdies and the CCP are sure pimping the hell out of that one ship, huh? Does any of that shit on it even work, or is it all fiberglass and empty tubes like during their CHINER STRONK! parades? If you say they do, indeed, work, I'm going to need video proofs of them working. I honestly think it's a bunch of bullshit, I don't think the VLS tubes have missiles in them, the radar isn't even powered, nor can it communicate with the VLS tubes, and the rest are props. Prove me wrong.
>>64769774USA national debt: 124% of GDPSweden national debt: 18% of GDPAlso, something like 20% of all money people spend on Steam goes to Swedish developers and publishers.
>>64769803t. knows literally nothing about china but stans them now that russia is a joke
>>64769821>pretending to think national debt is an indicator of anything other than how much business a country does with the rest of the world>brings up videogames unprovoked
>>64769819the whole thing is literally a prop for a movie, but chink propagandists keep spamming it as if it's a revolutionary new weapon against the perfidious west.the reality is that if chinks started building a bunch of these that would only serve the purpose of making it very easy to justify sinking every single containership filled with food headed towards china.
>>64769824How much of US national debt do you think is Veterans pensions, Teachers unions investment fund, and other similar debt owed to other Americans? How many Americans are depending on American debt payments?The Steam number is just a humorous example of Sweden having surprisingly high export incomes from software and digital services.There is no shortage of money in Sweden, the only bottleneck is how fast the defence industry can produce the goods, given decades of very low order volume.
>>64769750You're either a chink or a Euro retarded enough to fall for their propaganda. I'm not sure which is worse.
>>64769510>we
>>64769863>not sure which is worseuseful idiots and turncoats within your own walls being a greater threat than the open enemy besieging them has been an idiom for thousands of years, and for good reason
>>64769750Mutts have a lot in common with Russians
>>64769473Can we make "cargo ships into warships" threads a bannable offense?
>>64769750This is true and I have no idea why. Some people here treat saying anything positive about a non-american thing to be an insult to american things, I just don't understand the logic behind it.
>>64769488lmao, and "when?" will you have those? 2035? 2040?>>64769496>Reminder that even the F-22's new HMD is being made by them: https://www.twz.com/air/f-22-raptor-finally-getting-a-helmet-mounted-display>"The fact that the F-22, the world’s most capable air-to-air fighter, does not have an HMD has always been a point of contention. It was originally planned that Raptor pilots would get one, but this was cut during development. ">"F-22 pilots still lacked the ability to target it dynamically via its primary method — an HMD. You can read all about this strange situation in this past piece of ours.">>"The fact that the F-22, the world’s most capable air-to-air fighter, does not have an HMD has always been a point of contention."AHAHHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHAAAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA
>>64769750>Europeans: Hey look we made this thing that is kinda goodlmao, but you have never made anythingyou shit out fucking shill reports about things europe "might do" or is "planning&expecting by Q3 2031"you are never actually making anything and this is why you get correctly lambastedyou are on an American website, on an American sub-board for weapons. deal with the ridicule euroslut or log off
>>64770212>you are on an American website>Owned by a gook, and not hosted in the US.sure
>>64769473Why would we want to waste time and manpower on building a subpart navy when we just got to stale until the current POTUS term ends and he isn't reelected ?
>>64770251exactly^europe should just sit tight, and weather the Trump storm.sometimes "no move is the best move" and europe knows more about making no moves than perhaps any other aspirational geopolitical power on the planetbut yah, just totally wait out the clock on Trump! surely the next admin will flip the game board over, turn the clocks back to 1991 and europe will be an ascendent world power again!
>>64770273EU is doing something though. Trumps USxEU trade deal is halted, and a tradewar response against the US is being drawn up right now.
>>64770293>tradewar response against the US is being drawn up right now.LMAAAAAO>europe is speedrunning suicidal collapse, gold splits the whole waygood luck with your tradewar!
>>64769821So you're saying that America has been spending money they don't have on their military, while Sweden has not been spending anything at all on theirs? And this is going to give Sweden the edge against the US in a war?
>>64769473Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Chang.
>>64769818>the 77,302,580 who voted for Trump are all PakistanisWeird cope, but you do you.
>>64770498FYI my county has a bigger GDP than Sweden.
>>64770447This poster is obviously brown
>>64769739No, it would not ypu complete retard. Tell your orange nigger in the white house to chill the fuck out.
>>64770524At 660mil GDP Sweden has a smaller GDP than the Houston Texas Metro area. If it was a state it'd be the 15th largest by GDP just barely losing to Michigan.
>>64769473>converting container ships
>>64770519No they were americans. You however will forever be a gutternigger from Calcutta
>>64771465>sail at a snail pace so jdam can hit you>this is totally realistic
>>64772189It's an oil tanker too, so no bulkheads to hold air
Denmark should just give IEDs and full auto rifles to every Greenlander and Dane willing to go thereTrain them up and have paper targets
>>64770200>lmao, and "when?" will you have those? 2035? 2040?Faster than mutts will build their first Blyatelship