you can opt in for starlink-based location in the App. idk how that applies here though

>>64770508
The problem with spoofing is that there are no signs of GPS fuckery. The receiver thinks it's somewhere else and everything is working properly. That was the problem with M982 Excalibur when they sent it to Ukraine, it wouldn't switch to the INS fallback because it didn't know there was a problem with the GPS, and then it would be precision guided straight into an empty ditch.

>>64770527
why doesn't this affect ukraine starlink then?

>>64770548
Russians use dishes they capture perhaps?
there is also the theory that the US is allowing some RU dishes to work even if they know about em to spy/track stuff

>>64770561
Russians using = known target. Basically a GPS tracked location

>>64770561
russians are definitely using starlink and use it a lot, it's grey imported in vast quantities
>>64770573
it *would* work that way if US gave a shit, but it doesn't

>>64770527
>That was the problem with M982 Excalibur when they sent it to Ukraine, it wouldn't switch to the INS fallback because it didn't know there was a problem with the GPS, and then it would be precision guided straight into an empty ditch.

There's further challenges for munitions in Ukraine. If they try and acquire GPS in an already jammed environment it's basically impossible even if they're using modern encrypted military GPS that is immune to spoofing but not jamming

for the types of munitions that acquire m-gps outside of jamming, and then fly into jamming, they are a lot better off. So stand-off munitions are much more accurate against GPS jamming.

we had sub-meter dead reckoning units in the 80s, sure they cost 30 million back then but surely we can do better nowadays?

>>64770561
Russians don't need to capture those. They buy terminal from abroad and then use GPS spoofing to activate them from inside russia.

>>64770508
>Iran is blocking Starlink satellites
It's degrading the connection, not blocking, and only in some areas. The difference matters a lot. Causing the latency to spike is annoying but still lets stuff get exfiltrated, just more old style. There are protocols designed to handle extremely high latency and intermittent connections, though they aren't the common ones and typical web stuff doesn't do great with it.
>GPS
that isn't the issue and I have no idea where this retarded meme came from. Starlink terminals get constant constellation info from the constellation itself, GPS can help speed up initial acquisition and make geofencing easier but it plays no part in the ongoing link. This is just sheer noise around population centers. For the purposes of Iranian leadership merely choking the real time connection and making it shitty in places where it matters most is useful. If all the video and shit comes out in another few months the immediate impact will still have been muted and if they're still in power they can deal with it then. They're trying to keep the world from rallying right now.

>>64770588
>it *would* work that way if US gave a shit, but it doesn't
Who do you think is keeping the service up and running? Dumbass. Starlink is a US service and there is even a government/military Starlink version called Starshield. Both of these services operate independently in the war.

>>64772881
starlink is a musk service, dumbass
>Both of these services operate independently in the war.
correct, dumbass
and ukraine doesn't have a information sharing deal with musk, it has information sharing with US

>>64772917
Musk provides independent consumer service. US gov provides the Starshield. Both of them operate in the war. You dumb nigger

>>64772957
really really low IQ post
musk and us has never disabled russian starlink terminals because they get reflashed by russians by firmware that allows them to operate
russia imports starlink and even puts them on their attack drones because US government allows them?
you are using the word "nigger" in derogatory fashion, but I do not believe you are smarter than a generic low income black person that grew up in a hood, in fact, they are much better than you because they have a larger penis and can satisfy your mother, your sister and your wife much better

Anyone claiming russia uses starlink doesn't even know how it works.

Starlink cells in russia and contested ukrainian territories are disabled. There is no way for anyone to bypass this from the ground. All the satellites simply shut down their ground transmitters to cool them down while passing over cells where spacex doesn't offer starlink service.
The only way russia could in theory use starlink is on drones flying deep inside ukrainian territory but this isn't the case afaik.

>>64772996
>Starlink cells in russia and contested ukrainian territories are disabled. There is no way for anyone to bypass this from the ground.
you should tell it to russians, they'll have a good laugh
https://www.mk.ru/politics/2026/01/16/rossiyskie-specialisty-pereverbovali-starlink-teper-on-pomogaet-bit-vsu.html

>>64772996
You are retarded and gay. Ukies have posted evidence of russians using starlink for years now. Including recently in drones.

>>64772996
>to cool them down
By the way, this is a necessity. Most of the currently operational starlink satellites have thermal management issues and have to shut down frequently. The service not being available in a huge country like russia is convenient for spacex at this time, because the constellation is not yet mature enough for real global service.

>>64773013
I'm not gonna bother reading russian propaganda.
It either corroborates the facts I wrote or it lies.
Starlink literally cannot be used inside russian territory by anyone because the sats shut down for cooling. But it can be used by anyone on the ukrainian side. You can look up the active cell map on spacex website.

>>64773069
>I'm not gonna bother reading russian propaganda.
>It either corroborates the facts I wrote or it lies.
hilarious
https://www.unian.net/weapons/bpla-bm-35-rossiyane-vpervye-upravlyali-dronom-cherez-starlink-13256637.html
https://sntdpni.livejournal.com/1280265.html
>active cell map on spacex website
it just doesn't exist because GPS spoofing never works, especially in iran
it's good that us military is not as indoctrinated as the most retarded of nafo cultists and are actually choosing to supply russians with internet because it serves the purpose of weakening the ukraine

>>64773065
>on our website.
>>64773069
>on spacex website.
I see what you did there.

>>64773069
>Most of the currently operational starlink satellites have thermal management issues and have to shut down frequently
????????????????????
wtf drugs are you smoking man
there is no such issue.

The amount of inane absurdity in this thread is baffling.
Russia has been able to use Starlink connections >> inside Ukrainian border << , yes. The problem lies with real time monitoring of exact location and link. Starlink can and does have the ability to selectively disable comms with any active receiver. It's a cat and mouse game - russian forces can have an active unit, it can be discovered and disabled.

All the rest of the talk here is nonsense and russian cocksuckery.

>>64773300
As always, /k/ goes full retard whenever the topic is even tangentially related to space.

>starlink is disabled in russia
>*link about starlink being used in ukraine*
>yeah that just proves what i said
>*more links about starlink being used in ukraine*
It's a miracle such morons even survive daily life.

>>64770508
GPS position is used to calculate where to aim the antenna beam, GPS time is used for TDMA synchronization, the terminal could but does not calculate them on its own because it would become an ITAR controlled munition
ziggers were jamming it too but only with ground stations so you just have to break LOS by putting it in a ditch and it works again, Iran can overfly cities with planes or blimps which is much more effective