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Provide examples.
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>>64771471
france has the best army, how do you define weapons??? experimental weapons??
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>>64771471
Germany. Also that image makes me hard as fuck.
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>>64771471
ah is bait for usa vs eu, thats trump making noise because he will loose an election
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>Yet another spammer thread
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>>64771476

American OP here.

Experimental weapons are fine. Weapons overall? Planes, tanks, assault rifles, the usual stuff.
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The other countries might have better weapons but, they don't have our ingenuity
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>weapons in the title
How meta, I will definitely participate in this on-topic thread.
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Fedcom bros, not like this.
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>AI slop
not beating the brownoid allegations
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>>64771479
The sad thing is Trump's done more damage to Russia than any other president and Euros are still falling for Russian propaganda bait against him
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>>64771478

I predict we shall see many books about imaginary European-American Wars.

I was actually ahead of my time there. I had an idea decades ago where Europe invaded the US, inspired by the old "Wingman" novel.
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>>64771484

Well, let's start with something basic.

Eurofighter compared to Gripen compared to Rafale.
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>>64771490
No, he's gotten lucky that he was in office during a period where Russia decided to go full corrupt retard and Putin gave in to his dementia.
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>>64771481
battlemechs.
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>>64771501
The desperation in you ziggers is getting laughable.
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>>64771494
>I had an idea decades ago where Europe invaded the US, inspired by the old "Wingman" novel.
Almost makes me want to replay Shattered Union again. I wish someone made a modern version.
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>64771501
Ready for the 4th anniversary of SMO?
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>>64771503
Nah, Trump's been seizing Russian oil tankers, attacking Putin's allies with direct military action, and bringing down the price of oil by encouraging American oil extraction and refinement, as well as increasing European contributions to Ukraine and military activity. These are all actions which hurt Russia's interests, which is why you have all these fake zigger threads popping up to try to cope.
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>>64771509
It's all they have left, promoting the doomposting and spamming about "TRUMP WILL SAVE US", furthermore, the original plan was to block the atlantic from US reinforcements, due geopolitical shifts is now the entirety of the old continent ready for Barbarossa 2.0 while US goes around destroying all russian multipolar allies.
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>>64771501
>>64771511

My story premise was pretty basic. Europe decides to regime-change America, as America has fallen to Communist infiltration. Europe decides to stop America from becoming a new USSR, launching a pre-emptive strike before the regime can consolidate.
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>>64771471
For the purposes of your faggy picture nothing, all European armies are the same in that none of them have a navy worth much nor expeditionary logistics which means they all lose anywhere but the continent itself. If the EU wanted to be really serious and was willing to suffer for it then fucking the US economically (which would also mean massive damage to the EU economy too, it'd be a matter of galvanizing public opinion and threatening mutual suicide) would be the most effective. If it came to fighting then layered defense and funding/supporting guerilla American fighters in the states sabotaging and undermining things domestically would be good, though frog nukes should be enough to keep an actual mainland invasion off the table.

But frankly the damage to both sides would be so enormous and the entire thing is so wildly retarded that even for the super monarch-licking spineless traitorous faggots that make up the Republican congresscritters it's hard to conceive of them not cutting Trump off. And we're now less than 11 months to the next Congressional elections and GOP is already looking to get obliterated so this would just speed that up. EU just needs to make things grind out the clock.
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>>64771536
>as America has fallen to Communist infiltration
lmao, of all the plotlines you could've chosen that was the least realistic
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>>64771471
>Which European country has the best weapons overall?
>>64771478
>Germany.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>64771539

Except it mirrors the story's inspiration: "Wingman". Communists defeat America from within, taking over.

The only real difference is that Europe intervenes in my version.
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>64771546
>Meanwhile in PUCCIA
>Propagandist proposes to destroy Russia's own tankers so they don't fall into foreign hands
Zisters I don't feel so good.
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BWC is the most powerful European weapon.
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Why don't I ever see the most obvious suggestion in these threads: an EU-Chinese alliance? The enemy of my enemy is my friend after all.
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>>64771562

China would just take the opportunity to invade Taiwan, while America was distracted.
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>>64771478
Lay off the spice my dude
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>>64771562
Shut the fuck up, chang
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>>64771562
Because that would be Europe saying that they're actually totally fine with authoritarian regimes and invading countries to take their land, and they're not gonna do that.
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>>64771576
If the US suddenly invaded EU territory they literally wouldn't have any other choice.
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>>64771582
Which is never going to happen.
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>>64771471
>the burger isn't a spic
Wasted opportunity
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>64771562
no beating the allegations that these threads are all false flag spam
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>>64771479
Dunno, the usual suspects are running hard on Trump's latest antics
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>>64771602
That's not how war donations work, you can't just take them back.
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>>64771562
Fuck off, Chang. We stand with free and independent Taiwan.
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>>64771606
I honestly dont think your average New Delhi shillbot knows or cares
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>>64771562
>Why don't I ever see the most obvious suggestion in these threads: an EU-Chinese alliance? The enemy of my enemy is my friend after all.
Because it's not obvious it's fucking retarded. Like there's all the geopolitics etc too, but more importantly CHINESE COULDN'T ACTUALLY EVEN DO MUCH OF ANYTHING TO HELP EUROPE holy shit you fucking retards.

Yeah China is building, America is having big issues, and in another decade or two we might very well see PLAN be a parity tier opponent with the USN. Or not, but it's certainly very conceivable on present trajectories. And if the Arctic completely melts that'd also shake things up, USN has criminally under invested in nuclear ice breakers and similar stuff. But right now in 2026 (or 2027) the Chinese cannot offer anything meaningful in supporting the EU in Greenland even if both sides were best buddies. It's on the wrong part of the planet via two US ponds.
>>64771582
>they literally wouldn't have any other choice
Of course they would, see >>64771537. It's just that doesn't fit your video game fantasies.
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>>64771602
>hurry ukraine!! my f35s are gunna be killswitched' hurry! gibs them back
>w.....what...whaddaya mean you dont have them anymore!!

I cant wait to see the Greenland sale .webms.
I hope they just Vance to do it. would be hilarious
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>>64771606
>That's not how war donations work, you can't just take them back.

we call that "indian giving" in the US
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>>64771537
Honestly based on Europe's response to the Iran bombings and the capturing of Maduro I think Europe has a much bigger pro-zigger problem than the US. Trump has hurt Russia more in the last year than Biden was able to over the course of 4 years but we get a lot of bitching from Europeans because...Trump is attacking Russia's allies and seizing Russian ships.
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Did something happen in Russia? Why is he having a melty so early in the thread?
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>>64771522
> Trump's been seizing Russian oil tankers, attacking Putin's allies with direct military action
Patsies and punishing Venezuela from toying with the Biden administration.
Makes all latin america hate the US, and it doesn't fix anything. Venezuela has still the same ruling party (they probably sold out Maduro)
Basically a distraction from the Epstein files, and trying to win back some hispanic voters for the midterms.
>, and bringing down the price of oil by encouraging American oil extraction and refinement
Wrong. The US has been the biggest oil producer since the Bush era.
> increasing European contributions to Ukraine and military activity.
trying to destroy NATO and the pax americana.
The Greenland bs is not random. Everything follows the Foundations of Geopolitics shit
>>64771539
>America has fallen to Communist infiltration
we're actually living this. Except that "communism" is nothing but "russianism" in practice and always has been since Stalin.
Trump is a manchurian candidate doing the Kremlim's bidding. And that's undeniable. Everything he does harms the US hard and soft power, and economic hegemony, and helps Russia/China in the end.
>>64771568
That's also another endgame, and why China is helping Russia. Or rather, how Russia is paying China for their help.

>>64771537
yes the OP is retarded and the EU has a serious lack of force projection and logictics capabilities compared to the US. But, given the EU's GDP, tech, and population, we could go 1:1 against the US in a theoretical scenario. Our only real non-fixable weakness is the lack of many natural resources (which basically triggered and doomed Nazi Germany)
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>>64771471
Germany is the only country in europe that can stand up to the US in terms of land system quality and variety.
Also 416 a shit, 433 is better (probably equal to the latest Bren and SCAR versions)
>>64771546
This here nigger doesn't know the difference between best and most.
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>>64771640
Russia...? no

but the US is about to take Greenland from denmark and the eu, who have been left flabberghasted for any sort of unified, coherent 'messaging' on the event
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>>64771652
>Makes all latin america hate the US
Only the pro-Russian ziggers in Latin America, who are next to be targeted

>>64771652
>he US has been the biggest oil producer since the Bush era.
And now we're producing even more

>>64771652
>trying to destroy NATO and the pax americana.
Nope. Pax Americana only works if everybody is putting in contributions to keeping it going. No matter how much you might cry about it Ivan, Europe WILL send more weapons to Ukraine and your bitch ass can't do anything about it.
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>>64771654
>This here nigger doesn't know the difference between best and most.
lmao they have to actually exist in reality and not a rhinemetall catalog dipshit
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>>64771537
>all European armies are the same in that none of them have a navy worth much nor expeditionary logistics which means they all lose anywhere but the continent itself.
While true, in a somewhat ironic twist most sealift of US material has been through European shipping companies such as Maersk and Willhelmsen. While excelling at air transport, the US MM is pretty lacking
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>>64771634
>I think Europe has a much bigger pro-zigger problem than the US.
pro-ziggers do not rule Europe outside Hungary and others. All the biggest countries firmly in the anti Russian side despite the paid proRussian oppossition (AFD, lepen, etc)
>Trump has hurt Russia more in the last year than Biden was able to over the course of 4 years
stop repeating this lie. Trump has cut short the help to Ukraine, sucks Putin's dick, and kidnapping Maduro and seizing a few boats is a nothingburguer. Except that it actually weakens the US soft power
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>>64771667
>Trump has cut short the help to Ukraine
Which he more than made up for by drastically increasing European donations to Ukraine.

>sucks Putin's dick
I don't care what he says, I care what he does, and what he's been doing has been hurting Russia.

>Except that it actually weakens the US soft power
Soft power is a Russian psyop designed to keep America from just straight up killing our enemies.
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Is it really so hard to talk about WEAPONS on a weapons thread?
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>>64771673

Disagree. Soft power is saving money on bullets. If other countries like you, they won't fight you.
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>>64771667
>Except that it actually weakens the US soft power

no it doesnt you eu-pussy
venezuela upped our soft power so hard any country with a capital within the radius of blackhawk sortie, has piss dripping down its leg, carefully measuring every syllable it directs at Trump lest it piss him off
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>>64771684
Countries fight or don't fight when it's in their interest to do so. You'll basically never see a country do something for another country that's not also in their self-interest.
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>>64771479
>Loose an election
>For a third term he can't legally run for
Literal turdworlders could be here I thought to myself, as the cool -20C air wafted over my chest and the high grade moonshine coursed through my powerful yet tar infested veins.
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>>64771659
you're stupid and you know nothing about latin america. Everybody there is tired of the US shit and only go to the US because they can't afford going to Spain (which is where all the middle class Venezuelans went)
>And now we're producing even more
which is meaningless theater, and harms the necessary adoption of new energy tech and infrastructure for retarded stock schemes and short term gains.
> Pax Americana only works if everybody is putting in contributions to keeping it going.
the tragedy of it, it's that americans like you do not really understand it. Hint: if the others pay enough, they'll no longer listen to the US.
That's why France gave you the finger in 2003
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>>64771692
I think he’s talking about the midterms
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>>64771696
>Everybody there is tired of the US shit
Then you're ziggers that deserve what you get.

>which is meaningless theater
Oil is still being used by every country on earth so until you can stop that reality then making more of it and lowering prices hurts Russia's economy

>if the others pay enough, they'll no longer listen to the US.
They weren't listening to us before so nothing changed there.
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>>64771471
Lol @ the euromutt fantasies, they just sent like a dozen conscripts and thoughts and prayers to greenland.
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>>64771678
>Is it really so hard to talk about WEAPONS on a weapons thread?

soon enough, /k/ will be made great again, and the euro-shill staff who turned this place into what it is will be deported back to redddit and discord oblivion where they belong.

a golden age of "posting guns" and generally being 'winners' again coming HELP IS COMING, ITS TIME WE SEIZED THIS BOARD FOR AMERICANS, and kick the absolute seething pussy loser euro-agenda off this fucking wordspace forever
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Is this guy just talking to himself?
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>>64771697
They dont have that in Bagladesh, so its probably new for him
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>>64771700
>Lol @ the euromutt fantasies, they just sent like a dozen conscripts and thoughts and prayers to Greenland.

lmao, the best part was Greenlands 'tribal chief' leaving the meeting shook, tears streaming down her face in complete impotent bewilderment
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>>64771692
>-20C
>C
You can do better
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>>64771706
this board was dying before the euros came. /k/ isn't coming back.
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>>64771700
Yeah, and 30 guys was enough for Trump to shart himself on Truth, screaming about tariffs like the little bitch he was.
No means no MIGA, your pedo rapist cult leader needs to learn consent.
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>>64771678
Board has been infested with bots and shills today. I can only guess it's jews considering it's a Sunday.
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>>64771673
>I care what he does, and what he's been doing has been hurting Russia.
Delusional. You just can't admit you're a dupe and he's a traitor on top of all his other crimes.
He's been in bed with the russians since 1987, ffs
They bankrolled him when no western bank would give him money. The tower in NY was basically a russian mob laundering money operation.
All this was common knowledge before 2016.
>Soft power is a Russian psyop
retarded. Soft power is the big lever that made the US a superpower during the Cold War
>>64771692
>For a third term he can't legally run for
Since when he cares about legality? Why do you pretend you woulnd support it and willingly murder those upholding the US constitution when you already put a felon in the white house?
>>64771699
you're a fucking retard. I'm anti-russian, and geopolitics is not high school football
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>>64771710
Basically. He got humiliated on another thread and so he made this one specifically to have a platform to sperg on. He's beyond pathetic.
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>>64771726
>he's a traitor on top of all his other crimes.
He's a traitor for...hurting Russia? Okay zigger.

>Soft power is the big lever that made the US a superpower during the Cold War
No, hard power and having the biggest economy in the world is what made the US a superpower. Your infantile fantasy that countries will just give the US what we want because we're so nice has never held true anywhere.
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>>64771720
>this board was dying before the euros came. /k/ isn't coming back.
this is partly true because a tremendous amount of gun hysteria is stirred up by democrat administrations incessant threats to "ban_____gun"

however, in the post-covid world,
threatening to "ban guns" is basically political career suicide, and has no traction at all in the US anymore, so alot of the gun-fear has diminished
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>>64771732

Wrong guy. That was someone else.

>>64771710

No. I went to /trash/ while you guys decided to bicker.
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>>64771697
>Midterms
That's not a presidential election.

>>64771718
Nah fuck Fahrenheit.

You faggots will literally complain about gunless yuros and proceed to still not talk about guns.
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>>64771734
>having the biggest economy
That’s soft power
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>>64771749
Oh well then congratulations, Trump is greatly increasing American soft power.
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>>64771747
Yea and if the Republicans don’t sweep the midterms then Trump becomes a lame duck president.
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>>64771726
>the most diseased, puss-fill talking points to ever ooze out of an eu-balt-centric think tank imaginable

this is why you yapping cargo-cultists are international clowns
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>>64771752
He kind of ruined it with Greenland
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>>64771490
So uh his own words are propaganda bait against him?
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>>64771764
Not really, that's just words, and in doing it he successfully got Europe to fortify the area and increase military patrols there.
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>>64771752
By isolating the US from the rest of the world? Do you want to be a superpower or not?
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>>64771569
The spice must flow
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>>64771562
>The enemy of my enemy is my friend after all.
Wrong. The enemy of my enemy is my enemie’s enemy, no more no less.
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>>64771772
The US isn't isolationist retard, Maduro's been snatched, Iran bombed, and Russian tankers seized. That's not isolationism, that's anti-Russian pro-EU activism.
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>>64771490
Syria fell because Russia couldn't afford to keep supplying arms, the US wasn't involved.
Hitting Iranian enrichment has no effect on anything.
Venezuela still has the same government.
Trump hasn't given Ukraine any aid this term.

Taking some tankers is better than nothing but Ukraine has taken out more tankers than the US, it's not like the US is the only one getting them.
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>>64771753
As if the clown isn't one right now.
That loser has to beg and threaten the SC not to take away his unconstitutional use of tariffs, because he won't have anything to bully people in foreign affairs since nothing he does is popular.
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How do the Rafale, Eurofighter and Gripen compare?
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>>64771753
Hasn't he been doing things through executive orders as much as he can because of how fake and gay congress already is?

>>64771726
>-20C
>You put a felon in Congress
Do you prefer the taste of the yellow crayon or the brown one?

Anyway, since you faggots aren't talking weapons I'll start, here's a few choices to discuss:
>German CZ order
>New Svedish submarines
>R8 or H8 the new Polish assault rifle
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>>64771562
Ignoring the fact your post is entirely retarded
>the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Wrong, wrong and wrong again
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>>64771781
Lowering oil prices has had a dramatic effect on the Russian economy, as had increasing European's contributions to Ukraine.
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>>64771770
Arguing with you is pointless since you're severely deluded and refuse to aknowledge reality. I believe you just want someone to validate your existence on the internet, and i find it pathetic.
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>>64771783
We're never getting a weapons discussion, bro
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>>64771764
>He kind of ruined it with Greenland
>>64771770
>Not really, that's just words,
its literally not "just words" and Greenland isnt some "muh 5d chess to get nato to spend +.3% additional gdp annually

the US is literally, physically and legally taking Greenland as a US territory, and eventually a US state.
its not about minerals
its not about golden domes
its about "Northern Sea Route" trade lanes an the necessity to establish dominion over 21st century european trade, that will abdicate the suez-zone entirely

>>64771772
the US can EASILY pivot to hemispherical dominance while simultaneously managing its portfolio of european vassal states.

this is no burden at all
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>>64771783
They are all capable 4th gens, Gripen is probably the most useful for the WW3 we are entering.
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>>64771779
And you threaten trading sanctions on european countries, on top of those you're already enforcing. Wonder why europe is getting increasingly indipendent from american exports?
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>>64771790
Ah, I see the zigger flees when he has no argument to make.
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>>64771770
Thinking Trump is some genius that his whole goal is to put European troops on the soil he wants to steal.
Are MIGA really this retarded? No really, is this a joke?
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>>64771793

Maybe I'm just using the wrong wording.

Why does the Challenger 2 suck compared to the mighty Abrams?
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>>64771794
>its literally not "just words"
Has Greenland been invaded? No? Then it's just words, and words that got Europe to patrol the area for us.
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>>64771793
>We're never getting a weapons discussion, bro
once the european shill staff are kicked off the board, you will

its time to venezuela them back to discord&reddit where they belong
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>>64771794
I thought you didn't want to have anything to do with the EU anymore. You're messing up your talking points.
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>>64771798
Europe and America were leveraging tariffs against each other for decades before this, this is nothing new, and protecting strategically important industries is a regular part of politics.
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>>64771803
If you think every politician is 100% honest about their intentions then life must be really hard for you.
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>>64771797

Because the Gripen has a lot of potential for upgrading?
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>>64771813
Yes, but those tariffs are made specifically to blackmail europe into giving up greenland. How do you justify this behaviour?
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>>64771734
he's not hurting Russia at all. You're falling for empty theater while everything he does actually benefits Russia in the end.
Do you think Putin was sad about Maduro? lol

And you're the retard with a zigger turdworld mindset and infantile fantasies. Soft power is not about being just "nice", you moron. It's about influence and making other do what you want without having to threaten anyone because you're seen as the leader and the go to guy.
A position the US has lost between the retarded iraq war and now Trump, you retard.
And Russia and China love it.
You're dumbfucks psyopped by our enemies into self destroying yourselfves.
>>64771781
Exactly.
>>64771794
>the US can EASILY pivot to hemispherical dominance while simultaneously managing its portfolio of european vassal states.
Finally you out yourself. You're just a zigger larping as a dumb american, like all those MAGA twitter accounts from India
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>>64771823
Hardly. Europe isn't going to give up Greenland no matter what and Trump knows this so the tariffs aren't there to force them to do so but for other strategic reasons.
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>>64771811
What weapons would America use to free my country of the EU's tyrannical rule? Why would European weapons not be good enough to stand up and which would at least put up the slightest bit of resistance?
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>>64771813
>this is nothing new
Were the fuck are you getting your news anon? When else has the US said they are willing to invade a NATO member? When else have EU members deployed forces to deter a US invasion?

>>64771821
Because it's made to fly fast and low from roads, contested airspace is going to be the norm.
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>>64771808
>Has Greenland been invaded? No? Then it's just words, and words that got Europe to patrol the area for us.

lmao, again, you delusional european sissy, this isnt 5d chess to get nato to pony up cash, or send some submarine on patrol

its "just words" untill it isnt, and europe is going to play with fire, get torched, and watch whatever shreds of credibility and dignity it had completely evaporate into the abyss of history
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>>64771825
>everything he does actually benefits Russia in the end.
How do Russians benefit from losing the Ukraine war?

>It's about influence and making other do what you want without having to threaten anyone
Than Trump has been great for our soft power because he managed to get Europe to drastically increase their funding for helping Ukraine.
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>>64771834

America isn't designed to fight an unconventional war against Europe.
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>>64771785
>>R8 or H8 the new Polish assault rifle
it looks pretty good, even if it's just an ACR knockoff. I'm interested how they preform once they start coming into the US.
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>>64771834
>its "just words" untill it isnt
It's never going to be more than just words because Trump doesn't want Greenland. The whole purpose of his actions has been to hurt Russia and get Europe to help Ukraine more, which has succeded.
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>>64771827
the tariffs are just another grifter scheme to enrich him and his cronies gaming the stock market and allowing exception for those companies who pay him directly, you dumb fuck
It also weaken the US position in the world, which makes Russia happy
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>>64771827
Such as? Because the only thing those tariffs will do is incentivizing europe into investing in other markets, which will hurt america immensely since the EU is their biggest trading partner
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>>64771845

You mean reverse psychology.
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>>64771834
A president with members of his party calling him a retard, while backing the EU and NATO really shows how truly strong and popular Trump is.
Europe must be quaking in their boots knowing 30 guys on the island made him bitch out and try to use tariffs again.
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>>64771490
>seize Greenland for me then I'll buy it from you, they won't fight a NATO ally
it's not enough that we're falling for D&C on our own soil, now they're separating us from our allies
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>>64771849
>It also weaken the US position in the world
Hardly, American soft power was built on tariffs
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>>64771652
>But, given the EU's GDP, tech, and population, we could go 1:1 against the US in a theoretical scenario
But not really? "Theoretical scenarios" still have to based in reality, including the messy realities of politics and timelines. You can't reverse a multi-decade underinvestment on a dime, and knowing the outline isn't the same as knowing the details and having built up institutional knowledge and skills. I want to emphasize this is universal and has hit the USA plenty all over. We have plenty of skills and talent pools and infrastructure that used to exist which has now atrophied which means we also cannot just instantly fix certain weaknesses or redo certain technologies and approaches that past-USA did, and instead have to find an alternate approach that works with what we've got.

And for war timelines are everything, lots of wars would be different if one side or another had +/- a decade, a few years, hell even months or weeks in some cases for preparation or buildup. But that has never kept anyone from getting caught with their pants down. Right now the EU has now theoretical scenario even where it can go 1:1 with the US in the areas the US is strong in, so the EU would need to figure out areas the US isn't strong in and make use of soft power not just hard.

And of course the population of the EU would have to be truly onboard with the suffering that would entail, just as the US population would be. Fortunately the US population very much is not onboard with such mindblowing retarded shit spewing from Dementia Donald's narcissistic toddler mind and would not be interested in a WW2 reprise of personal austerity in the goal of going to war with Europe of all places on the planet. So that's the clear soft belly. We have lots and lots and lots of guns in private hands. The bonfire is laid, even if the wood is wet. Just needs enough matches.
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>>64771856
And yet the strategy worked to get Europe to defend Greenland
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>>64771859
You're genuinely retarded
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>>64771837
>Trump cutting Ukraine's help, trying to humilliate Zelensky in public, and helping Orban is ackshually 5d chess to defeat Russia
delusional MIGAtard mental gymnastics for being dupes and traitors.
The only guns we need to talk about are the ones to put you down of your misery
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>>64771874
And yet Trump got Ukraine MORE aid by getting Europe to pitch in radically more, and as much as ziggers like you might bitch about that it's going to keep growing higher and higher until Russia is done for.
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>>64771845
I get what you're trying to say, but Trump isn't playing 5D chess. he does want Greenland (probably for the oil) and he's going to keep screaming about it until his term runs out.
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>>64771874
Trump had to sign a defense bill that gave Ukraine 400million every year until 2027. Trump can't even stop his own party from laughing at his Putin dicksucking, and undermining him and his pedo worshippers.
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>>64771880
If he wanted Greenland, he would've just taken it, not thrown a fit in a manner specifically designed to get Europe to reinforce the island.
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There's quite literally no reason for the US and EU to be arguing about Greenland. It's secure
Do people really think Russia or China are going to invade it or something?
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>>64771869
The level of your mental gymnastics are astounding. I refuse to believe you're serious about it.
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>>64771880
Trump wants Greenland so he can a have a legacy of expanding the US
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>>64771887
Reinforce it against what? Do you think MW2 was a documentary?
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>>64771887
Yeah, and where is going to get those funds for the invasion dumbass? The Republican congress aren't on board with his stupidity, like 85% of the country.
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>>64771888
Having more maritime presence in the area discourages Russian submarines
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>>64771898
>and where is going to get those funds for the invasion dumbass?
What invasion, idiot? He's not planning to invade so he doesn't need funds for an invasion retard.
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>>64771887
>If he wanted Greenland, he would've just taken it
Retarded turdie, it's not that he doesn't want to, it's that he can't "just take it". However much he wants it, he's not actually king yet. He doesn't control the purse. He can't unilaterally decide to just take Greenland on his own prerogative and since it's a democracy under Denmark there's no dictator to try to do a snatch and grab of either, one of the pluses of democracies whatever their minuses is that they're extremely resilient because no single leader or set of leaders is irreplaceable (by definition, they are regularly replaced every election).
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>>64771887
>If he wanted Greenland, he would've just taken it
Denmark is an ally, and even he knows he can't just invade them. that's what all this talking as about.
>>64771895
that too
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>>64771842
I've watched some guntuber say it's actually a fair bit more than just an ACR knock-off. The modularity/ambidextrous and configurable nature seems real neat. Wish you guys could get some so I could hear more reviews, if I manage to get my gun license I could get a cucked civilian version.

What's the modular pistol like? Supposedly they have a hard-on for modularity nowadays.
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>>64771911
>, it's that he can't "just take it"
He can, as he has control over the military, he just doesn't want to.
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>>64771906
Yeah, how else was he going to get Greenland MIGAtard? They said no to the money, and they said no to his stupid excuses about national security. Pedo president needs to learn about consent, Greenlanders aren't the same as the little girls that were trafficked by his business partner.
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>>64771878
>i made a man learn to swim by throwing him in the water and watch as he pounded the water trying not to drown
>wtf why is everyone angry at me? Now he can swim, isn't what you wanted?
You pulled aid from ukraine cold turkey and were not for the union russia would've been a much, much more serious threat. This behaviour kinda reminds me of afghanistan, when you just threw the towel and left the republican militia to fend for themselves and you shrugged as they were butchered by the talibans.
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>>64771829
>What weapons would America use to free my country of the EU's tyrannical rule?
pic related

>>64771827
>hardly. Europe isn't going to give up Greenland no matter what
europe will absolutely be handing Greenland over, this isnt a negotiation, and europe will literally put a smile on its face, shake the US's hand and courtsey politely as it exits the room for the experience

>>64771841
>America isn't designed to fight an unconventional war against Europe.
the American military is designed almost exclusively for defeating european style nations
like this is its main capability

>>64771845
no one gives a MOTHER FUCK ABOUT ukraine you delusional, troon-warped brain idiot. absolutely NOTHING about Greenland is 5d chess or some secret plan to "hurrrrrrrrrr give ukraine more weapons!!"
GOD the absolute euphoria that will be watching europe and nato simultaneously implode when the ink dries on the Greenland sale will be historic

>>64771855
>Europe must be quaking in their boots
they absolutely are
literally in tears, shaking
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>>64771923
>They said no to the money,
That's not how military funding works
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>>64771902
Then why not build a naval base there which is allowed under the same agreement that lead to the airbase being built there in 1943.
The only countries Trump is helping is China because he's proven trading with the US is no better than trading with Russia.
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>>64771924
>You pulled aid from ukraine cold turkey
And in the process got Ukraine even MORE aid because it turns out Europe had been holding out on Ukraine the whole time and hadn't been giving nearly as much as they could've been giving.
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>>64771930
>Then why not build a naval base there
It's very likely Europe will build one so mission accomplished.
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>>64771918
>Wish you guys could get some so I could hear more reviews
we will, the ATF approved them for import about a month ago.
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>>64771939
Lol no, when the US threatens to attack the EU why the fuck would the EU spend money to defend the US instead of to defend themselves from the US?
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>>64771930
the multi-polar world order has different legalities than the DEAD 20th century "rules based international liberal world order"

part of the "rules" in the Multi-polar agreed upon by the 3 superpower hegemons was strict "legalism"

securing Greenland is about having absolute legal authority over the 21st centuries most important trade lane (The Northern Sea route) which will carry 100% of europess international trade.
THUS, from Greenland, the US will have undisputed legal dominion over european trade, energy, and strategic military geography to enforce American policy.
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>>64771945
That's not how any of this works. Russia is Europe's enemy, if they build a naval base in Greenland they won't appreciate Russian submarines snooping around the area which serves US interests regardless of how Europe feels about America.
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>>64771927
>muh kill switch
Do thirdies actually believe this?
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>>64771934
This is a circular argument and absolutely false. Also, this is going against your interests, because now that europe is massively investing in their own rearmament, you will not only lose allies, but also trading partners and possibly customers for your defense contractors. If the plan was to jeopardise your economy for the sake of rearming a continent that now sees you as unreliable at best and an enemy at worst, then congratulations, you did it.
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>>64771949

All I see from this "multipolar world" is chaos.

China invades Taiwan, so war with America. US invades Greenland, so war with America. Russia invades Ukraine, so near-war with NATO.
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>>64771934
>europe could have been futilely committing suicide for its completely defeated and economically insolvent welfare proxy EVEN harder than it did grrrrrrrrr im so mad

lmao HOLY FUCK I HATE YOU ENTITLED BALTS SO MUCH ITS UNREAL

GET OFF THIS FUCKING BOARD
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>>64771955
See, this is what you ziggers don't understand, the US doesn't want Europe weak, we WANT them to rearm and help us out in Ukraine. You can't threaten us by telling us you'll give us what we wanted from you the whole time.
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>>64771949
Now this is what it's actually about, stealing a shipping lane.
Still it's ultimately going to hurt the US long term because most of the GOP is going to need to hang before any ally trusts the US again.

>>64771950
Russia has proven to have no force projection and a joke of a navy, the EU doesn't need to fear Russian subs.
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So when Trump doesn't get Greenland, and has to pretend he didn't actually care about it at all. What will MIGA do about all that bluster about Europe being weak, and Trump always being the winner?
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>>64771950
europe isnt ever going to be allowed to build military bases on US soil, same as it is now. that will never change

>>64771952
lmao cant wait to see europe take that gamble,
were all waiting to see the shocked, outrage they will run to the media with

>>64771952
>you will not only lose allies
you are not allies, you are vassals for the last FUCKING TIME.
allies imply you are equals, providing capabilities the US otherwise wold not have without the relationship.
in this case, there is fundamentally NOTHING europe offers, the US cannot live without or simply achieve through less obnoxious methods than dealing with europeans and the trouble they cause
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>>64771970
You just said that europeans are sissies that won't do anything. Why do you always hop from a talking point to another? Also, why would you want to reinforce a coalition of nations by making them hate you?
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>>64771977
They will say it's 4d chess just like when his tariffs were to bring back US manufacturing, no they are to raise money, no they are to apply pressure, it's good they have ended because Trump got what he want.
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>>64771977
have you not beer reading this thread? they're going to say it was all 5D chess to make the euros rearm themselves.
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>>64771949
>securing Greenland is about having absolute legal authority over the 21st centuries most important trade lane (The Northern Sea route) which will carry 100% of europess international trade.

Nobody is going to trade with a pariah state which flaunts all international law and changes the "rules" on a whim of its pedo dictator, dipshit.
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>>64771956
>China invades taiwan, so war with America.
WRONG. the US and China are *NEVER EVER EVER EVER* going to war. that would be nuclear, and ITS NEVER HAPPENING

Greenland has no capability to resist the US if it doesnt take the deal, same with europe who will get killswitched

and the whole ukraine proxy dabacle is completely over, and is not a US interest anymore

>>64771971
>ally trusts the US again.
WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT VASSALS EMOTIONAL STATE IS

"TRUST" isnt a factor when the US supplies your energy, and the US commands authority over all of your inbound and outbound international trade

im honestly shocked how infested this board is with pathetic bitch-made europeans and their delusional world view

this is an American board for shilling American messages NOT europe and certainly not european agenda (which can go fuck itself)
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>>64771949
Are you really making an argument for American needs to break out of the arctic island chain?
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>>64771911
>he can't "just take it". However much he wants it, he's not actually king yet
Wrong. He controls all the main branches of your government, which rubberstamp everything he does. Do you think Hegseth is going to say no to him? lmao
The US constitution is worthless if it's not enforced. If it was, Trump never would had a 2nd term.
>>64771982
You're fucking retarded. Do you think the US bases all over Europe are charity?
Why the us BEGGED and whined about european help during the GWOT?
You're a turdworlder zigger with a zero sum mindset that doens't understand anything
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>>64772002
>muh killswitch
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>>64771982
Ok then. Suppose tomorrow europe shuts down all trades and diplomatic contacts with america. What then? Who will be your main economic hub and partner?
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>>64772002
>bad things can't happen because...it just can't ok!?
updooted for a realistic view of geopolitics:^)
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>>64771989
>5D chess to make the euros rearm themselves.

i fucking LOVE you shit pussy euros think this is a game
i really do

its going to make the absolutely catastrophic meltdown when Greenland signs in the middle of the night without brussels even knowing about it,
1000000000x funnier

>>64771994
european niggers have no choice, we supply your energy now, we control your shipping lanes
europe has fundamentally no choice but to do exactly as the US says

the charade is over. were done pretending like europe is a real international player, instead of the geopolitical "lichtensteins" you collectively are
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>>64771994
But they will trade when a Democrat and or a moderate Republican is in power. Europe is going to come up on top, because the pedo cult only worships the pedo messiah, not his successor that has a Indian wife and kids.
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Ah, I see that the TDS ridden DemoLib dipshits are still seething and coping from their heroine Kamala Harris not winning the election, lol!
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>>64772002
>literally all zigger talking points
You smart at first, but eventually you can't help yourself from talking like a fucking subhuman
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>>64772002
It's funny how little you understand what those vassals currently do for the US in exchange for defensive agreements, when you become a threat instead of a protector why the fuck would any nation allow US companies resource extraction rights?

At this point we should send over a tranny to kill Trump and watch you collapse into civil war.
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>>64771994
Okay, then you won't trade at all. The only countries that can trade by sea without permission from the US are China, and to a small extent, Russia, but only if Russia is willing to use nukes, since they have no navy. What do you think the new cheapo Legend Class is for? It's for controlling trade lanes. Put a Burke and a dozen cutters off the Atlantic coast of South America, and suddenly Euope has no food, thanks to Mercosur. We can close the Suez, and we control the middle east. Europe would have to get everything from Africa(lol), or beg Russia for access through them(double lol). The idea of countries with navies as weak as Europe threatening anything other than boycotts is an absurdity. Sorry, but until you can challenge the US navy in blue waters, something even China isn't yet capable of, you're just going to have to obey.
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>>64772025
anon, he's a zigger subhuman larping as a magatard.
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>>64772012
>Do you think the US bases all over Europe are charity?
for europe? ya basically, which is why its ending

>>64772013
lmao eu-sissies are about to fafo on that one
>>64772014
>Ok then. Suppose tomorrow europe shuts down all trades and diplomatic contacts with America

then the lights go out in europe,
or they crawl back to Russia on their hands and knees (which Germany is debating btw)

>>64772015
there is no scenario where the US (a nuclear superpower) goes to war with either China or Russia
NONE
there will be no global thermonuclear war. PERIOD
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>>64771983
>You just said that europeans are sissies that won't do anything.
That wasn't me, that was a zigger falseflagger
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>>64772016
kek, delusional doesn't even cover it. MAGA shithead or trolling thirdie, what's the difference anymore.
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>>64772029
you will never be an American
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>>64772036
Not being under a pedo president sounds like a win to me.
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>>64771869
Yes, exactly. Greenland is a pincer move. The EU has to choose between maintaining strength in the east against Russian incursions or reassigning that strength to the west to prevent an eventual Russian foothold in Greenland
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>>64772029
>I'm american and not a seething russian
>that's why I post webms about bong energy prices
>muh nooks
You showed your hand, HIVan
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>>64772025
>how little you understand what those vassals currently do for the US
you do fucking NOTHING, literally less than nothing for the US
infact all you do is cause extremely expensive problems that we arent putting up with anymore

>>64772028
i fucking love it. the tables have been flipped over on you euro-pussy staff and your last words on your way back to discord will be just calling everyone brown Russians

hilarious
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>>64772044
Russia likes to operate submarines around Greenland so it's already in Europe's interests to defend it, Trump is just getting them to work overtime on it, same as how he got Europe to increase funding for Ukraine.
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>>64772026
You have a very rich imagination. But no, worldwide sea trade doesn't work that way, and were the US ever try to meddle with international shipping it would turn into a world war so fast it's not even funny. Not even EU vs USA. I mean the world vs USA.
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>>64772025
Allow allow allow. Putting aside the fact that the number of countries the US airforce can't JDAM their leadership can be counted on one hand, The US allows you far more than you can ever allow it. You're still thinking in rules based order nonsense. America is Rome. It can do whatever it wants, to everyone but Russia amd China. France also has to get a little respect thanks to having nukes capable of independent targeting. Other than those three and countries those three are willing to start a nuclear war over, there are no countries in the world that can prevent a truly muscular US from doing anything at all. There is nothing stopping us from JDAM'ing the leader ship of basically any country until they agree to what we want, no invasion required.
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>>64772028
Is there even a difference anymore?
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>>64772054
Well considering MAGA's been the worst thing for Russia since the fall of the USSR, yes.
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>>64772052
>America is Rome

>personal debt spiral
>usury out of control
>unpayable national debt
>vassals turning against the empire

Yeah.
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lmao, euro pussies are so catastrophically buck shattered, without coherent messaging to push back on Trump yanking Greenland out of their hands, all the can do is vomit out shit like
>"but where are the epstein files!!!!"
and
>"youre a brown zigger"
as any credibility europe had as a serious inernational actor gets sucked into the event horizion, and completely broken apart to the last atom

Trump said we would get tired of winning....
I WONT!
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>>64772061
So then Russia is the Ottomans?
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>>64772052
Well why don't you do it? If you hate us so much, why are you not taking over the world if you're so mighty? Maybe because you're not?
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>>64771943
Neat. Probably not going to get my license before the price hike due to availability but hopefully it comes down in the latter part of the year due to economies of scale and all.
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>>64772067
Late stage Rome was the same, but even they didn't have people taking personal loans for grocery shopping.
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>>64772064
At this point you're the only one reading your posts. Extra faggy and retarded
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>>64772075
No but they did have people selling themselves into slavery en masse to pay for debts
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>>64771902
Ah the high threat of Russian submarines around Greenland mmm yes
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>>64772069
>why are you not taking over the world if you're so mighty?
what are you talking about the US is consolidating its "Pole" in the new world order at a fucking break neck pace so fast, eu-pussy propagandists heads are about to spin off thier neck, completely unable to find any sort of coherent spin that isnt deep and everlasting humiliation

europe is in the most pathetic scramble ever seen
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>>64771919
>>64772012
Nope, no budget lol. Polls are in the fucking tank and the WH was surprised when 5 Republican Senators crossed the aisle to vote with dems on war powers act resolution. Their grip is fraying and depends on the typical strongman shtick of pretending to be unbeatable, but that only works so long as you don't push too far and reveal the emperor has no clothes. Then it all comes crashing down in a big hurry. Elections are under state and local control, there is no centralized apparatus in America, so he has no power to halt that either (and any attempt would be a clear thing for people to exercise 2A over). Which means the gravity of the oncoming election is going to start looming over a bunch of GOP congressmen who aren't in totally safe seats.
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>>64772051
A world war against who you mouthbreather? China doesn't believe in international law, and as long as we give them concessions and don't bother them, they won't go to war for 'free trade'. The rest of the world's navies, excluding Japan and Korea for obvious reasons, could not stand up to the US. Not now, and absolutely not in ten years when our autonomous rollout hits it's stride. Surface ships are just targets to a carrier airwing with naval AWACs support. You people live in this fantasy land where 'the rules based order' and 'international community' are anything other than a fiction propped up the US Navy. Sure, EU sub forces would cause some harm, but not enough. And yeah, we couldn't invade or occupy the world, or break into the baltic. But we could bomb the shit out of you and sink everything of yours beyond 300 miles of shore.
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>>64772052
Great, how is that applicable to getting anything done?

The US intervention in somalia has been going on for 19 years, 1 week and 4 days and so far we have nothing to show for it.

If we've fucked that up, for so long, there's no reason to believe that we could effect any lasting change other than some pathetic landscaping.
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>>64772087
>consolidating
Is a bunch of angry tweets now called consolidation? Because it looks to me that the US is sitting in the most precarious position since the american civil war.
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Are these Global South posters trying to create some artificial divide between the US and Europe or something
What is all this foolishness
We're allies
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>>64772095
>Elections are under state and local control, there is no centralized apparatus in America, so he has no power to halt that either
Unless the Dems are traitors for the Russians (which they are)
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>>64772081
People giving up their rights for monetary gain never ended, at least back then you got a house for serving.
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>>64772108
lmao the zigger turdie can't help but reveal himself yet again
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>>64772069
We don't hate you, we're just tired of the fiction(And the UK fucked you guys by trying to go ahead with dumping Diego Garcia against our will, we now know basing rights can't be trusted, the establishment is furious). Of course, it would be better if you went along with what you're telling you, no one wants to kill their ancestors. There's also the issue of getting started public opinion wise. Americans love war, and they love winning more, they're just gunshy. Thrice bitten with Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. If Trump and whoever follows can keep the conflicts to airstrikes and lighting raids, and avoid nation building or refugee waves? A few more quick victories and just about everyone in the US will be onboard with us doing whatever we want. For example, a democrat president could NEVER give away Greenland if Trump got it.
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>>64772107
>Are these Global South posters trying to create some artificial divide between the US and Europe or something
Obviously, but it's not particularly helpful that the clown in charge has decided the US is his personal property and he's above the law.
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>>64772099
Yes, intervening in tribal conflicts sucks and is not something we're capable of doing. Same with nation building. What we're doing in Venezuela is a modern version of what we did in Japan. Knock over the guys on top and let everyone else stay. The people in charge of Japan today are largely descended from the people in charge when the treaty was signed. As long as there is a functioning apparatus, we can deal with it. It's building up that apparatus that's impossible, even now.
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>>64772098
You're a fucking retard. The US hegemony is based in commerce and the EU is one of the top 3 US biggest trading partners. A war with the EU would be the end of the US hegemony once the US economy implodes.

Which is why russian shills like you keep talking about it, just like you can't shut up about an US civil war.
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>>64772137
Eh, whatever Trump is doing I'll forgive cause he's making the Russians seethe
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>>64772143
we had boots on the ground in japan to make sure they did what we wanted. that's not what's happening in venezuela.
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>>64772107
>chinks failed in launching rockets
>another russian tanker seized
>iran shitting the bed
the only way the can dunk on the US is by being schizos anon
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>>64772095
>just 2 more weeks untill Trump is voooooooooooooooooted out of office!
AHHAAHAHAHAH PATHETIC

>>64772104
what the fuck are you talking about, we just yanked $trillion dollar windfall out of the hands of some spic retards. we are flush with cash brokering power in all the constituent spheres we will soon be doing business with

>>64772107
>were allies
europe is post-national special economic zones, not "allies"
they, however, are free to engage in their delusion for "as long as it takes" to lose every meaningful holding they once had in the process tho

every single euro-pussy saying "vatink/zigger/turdie/brown" etc. or any of the euro-shill staff vocabulary should be banned then kicked off the board.
this is an American board
im fucking SICK of seeing ukraine war vocabulary SICK OF IT

im fucking SICK TO DEATH of demented, delusional ukraine war posting out of the euro-pussies, im suck of it. you people MUST be run off this board to the absolute last of you
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>>64772143
The sheer ignorance of history has always worried me but feels like it's really rearing its head now.
>What we're doing in Venezuela is a modern version of what we did in Japan
What the FUCK are you talking about? We national built the shit out of Japan. We conquered the country, we executed most of the top, we forced them to acknowledge it and depower the emperor, we imposed a Constitution of our choosing on them, we imposed military treaties and restrictions, and then we put quite a bit of money into helping initial rebuilding. It was NOTHING like any modern American effort.

Yeah there are big cultural differences and shit too but really the whole problem with "nation building" in Iraq and Afghanistan was precisely that we retarded DIDN'T do any of that. We didn't eliminate leadership, we did fucking dumbshit crap like "respect local customs" and warlords and let them come up with their own law rather then just imposing a superior one on them immediately and running with that, we dragged our feet on getting the ball going on infrastructure and law & order basics, etc etc. Rumsfield was a fucking moron, Cheney too but Rummie in particular was so intoxicated with his LIGHT AND DYNAMIC NEW PARADIGM THAT'LL BE SO CHEAP and indulged in fantasy. Not that any of it was worth it anyway of course.
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>>64772150
Russians routinely mock Trump as their puppets and as a clown in their state TV, retard.
That's why they were so desperate for him to be elected, you moron
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>>64772158
Brown ESL overload.
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>>64772166
Is that their latest cope? "N-no, I'm not butthhurt that he's kicking our ass, w-we wanted this the whole time!" lmao, that's pathetic.
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>>64772158
brother it's 5am in Delhi, get some sleep
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>>64772150
>Eh, whatever Trump is doing I'll forgive cause he's making the Russians seethe

lmao, nafo talking points are so hilariously pathetic and non-sensical its unreal

look at all that Russian seethe here!
such seethe!
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>>64772158
>turdie /pol/troon tries to meme while seething over the US having elections like clockwork having never missed a single one in its entire 239 year history since the signing of the Constitution, not even during a complete civil war
stay mad forever lol
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>>64772148
Except the trading relashionship you just described is heavily in favour of the US. The EU relies on them for :
>high-tech defense systems like satellites, intelligence software, 5th gen fighters, not to mention the logistics and nuclear umbrella
>About 80% of cloud computing services
>LNG
>Semiconductors
>Banking and finance (including Visa and Mastercard)

Without the EU, the US loses money. Without the US, the EU goes back to the middle ages.
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>>64772173
Hell of a lot better than the previous administration
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>64772173
>admitting to being a zigger
every time. they can't help themselves, can they?
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>>64772178
ASML (Netherlands) is the single most important company in the global chip supply chain
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>>64772181
>Hell of a lot better than the previous administration

could not possibly agree more
watching european credibility detonate on live TV was just about the most hilarious political happening in a decade

you could watch europe collectively seize up and die in this very moment
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>>64771663
This.
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First rapechink and now helmettard, sure have been a lot of meltdowns this weekend.
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>>64772181
Trump has said repeatedly he trusts monke.
Biden told monke to his face he doesn't have a soul.
We were better off with cornpop.
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>>64772154
We did that because that's what technology required then. With modern ISR, at any given time we can drop a JDAM on Delcy and her family, putting the onus on her to make sure our will is carried out. We can do that to the next guy, and the next guy, and so on, until we get what we want. We can do that almost* anywhere.
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>>64772194
"By your fruits you shall know them"
All of Trump's actions have shown he doesn't trust monke, and he's been far harder on Russia than Biden was
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>>64772148
Think smoothbrain. WHY is the US hegemony based on commerce? Oh right, the US Navy. We learned from our father, that if you have the largest navy, even the second biggest navy will allow itself to get pushed around a little. The UK bullied countries far more equal to it militarily regularly during it's Imperial era. All sea trade relies on the good will of the US navy. And what is Europe doing? Exporting their dirty polluting food production to South America, which can only be resched with the blessing of the fifth fleet. Whoops!
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>>64772193
America is finally worth celebrating again.

ive heard a lifetimes worth of slop from the euro-pussy staff here,
im taking /k/ back for Americans

this board is for shilling pro American messages
NOT
euro-sissy delusion

I am acting directly on behalf of Donald J. Trump
and if the euro pussy staff does not go back to discord and reddit where they belong, they will get maduro'd in the middle of the night and go directly to tranny jail (where they also belong)
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>>64772158
Didn't read, because it gives me a headache, and I'm going to do you a solid: know that everyone can tell that you're upset, no matter how many "HAHAHAHA"s you write. Go and take a breather, have a glass of water.
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>>64772197
>All of Trump's actions have shown he doesn't trust monke, and he's been far harder on Russia than Biden was
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>>64772178
The EU has its own indigenous nukes
Satellites can be done perfectly fine by just the EU through France.
5th gens are not technologically unfeasible to develop with the right push and we already produce a good share of their psrts, recall what "joint strike fighter" meant
A good share of US logistics relies on European shipping companies
The tech to make modern semiconductors viable to produce relies on European IP
Banking and finance is something the EU controls via SWIFT (based in Belgium, most of the infrastructure in Europe), Visa & Mastercard are ultimately replacable.
LNG and Cloud Computing I will give. The latter is potentially solveable with economic pressure.
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>>64772223
>The EU has its own indigenous nukes
Oh and also the missiles to target anywhere relevant in the world if so desired.
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>>64772212
>Didn't read, because it gives me a headache,
lmao, probably PMS symptoms.

u probably just need some chocolate ice cream and re-runs of below deck (works for Ms.helmettstacie)
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>>64772223
>The EU has its own indigenous nukes
>>64772226
>Oh and also the missiles to target anywhere relevant in the world if so desired.
and no it does not!

go ahead.."may we see them"
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>>64771486
you can't call it AI just because it depicts a euro actually fighting
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>>64772165
You're completely ignorant. In Japan, we didn't even depose all the junior ministers we knew committed war crimes. The SAME families that ruled Japan beforehand rule it now, they just rule it via our constitution. Do you think we would have needed to do ANY of that if we could just bomb the top guy and they could do nothing about it? We could get the same outcome out of Japan if we JDAM'd the ruling council and told the next guys to behave. In Iraq, the retarded state department dissolved the ruling government down to the corporals, giving the insurgency a fully formed organization. The heads of ISIS are frequently discovered to be previous members of the Iraqi army. Dissolving the government entirely is the biggest mistake we made. Afghanistan has more nuance, but it's still easily fixable of we follow what the british did initially. DON'T try and impose democracy on the tribals, don't get involved in their conflicts. Control the roads and airbases and mind our own business. The UK failed in Afghanistan when they broke that dente. If you genuinely think we respected local customs in Afghanistan you're retarded. We forced them to let their daughters go to school and learn to put condoms on Bananas at gun point, we tried to forced democracy and women's suffrage on them. Not to mention the US propped up criminal pedophile warlords regularly.
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>>64772213
>Gets his oil prices dumped
>Gets his ships seized
>Has his allies attacked
>Has massive funding increases to Ukraine
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>>64772209
>this board is for shilling pro American messages
is that why you accuse everyone of being USAF airmen when they disagree with you? or did you forget about your neurotic obsession with Eglin already?
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>>64772216
to the euro pussies of /k/
thats just 5d chess to get nato to up their gdp spending on Greenlands defense .2% annually and to secretly giga-fund ukraine and arm it with 10 new batches of weapons to finally bring the fight to Putins front door and make every day Russians feel it
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>>64772244
Maybe if you are retarded
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>>64772230
It absolutely does though. Were these produced for a photoshoot?
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America has the best weapons.
Eskimo pussy is mighty cold or so I've heard.
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>>64772251
The Tridents, (assuming they work, the only tests in the last 20 years have failed), rely on US targeting and satellite infrastructure. The French do have the domestic ability to launch and target them without us(damn you Degaulle), but they have limited numbers of active, out of drydock submarines to deliver them, and we also don't know if their missiles work, although it's likely they do. 240 midsized SLBMs, however, is only enough deterrent for France. Are the frogs willing to get annihilated to protect Denmark? I doubt it.
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>>64772243
>is that why you accuse everyone of being USAF airmen when they disagree with you?

ok but now we agree and the airmen flew black helicopters into a kayfabe sovereign nation and extracted the head of state, to the absolute paralyzed, ghost-white terror of european leaders currently raising hell with Trump at every turn.

following up the venezuelan hyper-terror event for euro's with "I want Greenland, and I mean I want it right NOW" blindside, has absolutely floored europe, besmirched them in public basically de-pantsing them infront of the world.

>pic related
its the kind of stuff that will make you a 'believer' again
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>>64772268
>Are the frogs willing to get annihilated to protect Denmark? I doubt it.
Are the mutts willing to get annihilated to acquire Greenland? I doubt it.
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>>64772268

I.e the French were right in the end, lol.
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>>64772251
>It absolutely does though. Were these produced for a photoshoot?

lmao, yes, literally

if the uk wants to larp as a superpower,
and experience the dream
>"nukes of our very own™
it has to book a timeshare stay with the US total-recall office in Cape-Canaveral FL. which requires an US based adult chaperone before they can go on the ride
>all expenses paid by uk
>missile is a lease, not ownership!
>quality may vary
most of all
>"no refunds!"

unfortunately the more the uk keeps going to recall to larp as a superpower, the more brain damage it does....so the illusion is getting less stable over time
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>>64772223
>The EU has it's own nukes
Yeah maybe 30 of them. With last century ICBMs, no stealth strategic bomber and no hypersonic missiles. Good luck
>We have satellites through France
Cute. Do you have the software to analyze all those pictures in real time ? Do you have the SIGINT, SEAD and EW capabilities the US has ?
>FCAS
It's nothing but a meme at the moment. Meanwhile the F-35 has been in active service for years now. With how it's going you better start working on 6th gen right now if you hope to ever catch up.
>US logistics relies on EU companies
Now you're just delusional. The EU can barely send a batallion to Africa without relying on US bases, cargo planes and tankers.
>The EU controls banking and finance
Bitch your entire continent lives on loans by US hedge funds and Wall Street basically owns like 80% of your companies
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>>64772288
so we will meet in the middle
>the US takes Greenland utterly, and europe gets on tv and grandstands and moral lectures so hard it shifts the earth rotation by .0000000000000000001second per day!

>>64772303
>I.e the French were right in the end, lol.
lmao and they even have a "first use" docrine
its honestly kinda based, and jupiter is ofcourse hilarious on top of it all
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>>64772329

Correct. If France is threatened, they are supposed to nuke first.
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>>64771652
>oil producer since the Bush era.
Wrong nigger it was 2011, which the industry die due to private investment despite Obongo. All Trump did was reverse his and Biden's anti-coal and anti-oil initiatives which were always internal policies which operated within the bureaucracy. Sauce, I've been a petroleum geologist since 2008.
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>>64772340
>Correct. If France is threatened, they are supposed to nuke first.

lmao, its a BOLD strategy, thats for sure
ads little bit of "je nes sais quoi" to the whole geopolitical-order recipe
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>>64772372

Technically he's Belgian. Bizarro French. Even Quebec makes more sense.
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>>64771781
>the US wasn't involved in Syria
Are you retarded?
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>>64772536
At some points during the 13 years of war the US was heavily involved but not the whole time, think of it like Vietnam, different countries came and went over the course of it, the US mostly left in 2019.
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>>64771471
>>64771478
yuros would lose the war in hours since all yuros are cowardly homosexuals
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>>64771471
>literal AI slop D&C spam
Are people really falling for this shit?
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>>64771507
france would absolutely try to label the shadow hawk as the 'premier fighting mech' before it gets absolutely fucking obliterated by a Centurion
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>>64771554
>we should just sink our ships so they don't get captured
is it just a pride thing?
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>>64772240
>and yet somehow the Kremlin thinks Trumps latest retardation is the best thing ever
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>>64772909
>russians trying to do the same thing OP is
Really makes you think
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>>64772918
I don't need Russian propaganda to hate the Trump admin, I have been interested in politics and economics since 2005.
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>>64771483
You aren't even allowed to own guns. Your opinion is discarded.
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denmark and Greenland are rightful US property officially speaking
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>>64771794
>its portfolio of european vassal states
you're not american
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Lol, EuroPoors seething that they won't get welfare from US anymore soon, lmao!
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>>64772909
>>64773020
I like the president more than I like yurobrowns and will side with him over brown skinned yurosissies
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US and Russia won, Europe and Ursula lost sirs
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>>64771471
Americoon soldiers should be fat and black
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>>64771486
>amerijeet says this when his government is spamming AI slop all the time, including literal AI generated statements made by Trump
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>>64773097
That's because IDpol has rotted your brain and you don't understand economics.
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>>64771471
Another day, another third world D&C thread.
Some day these brownoids are gonna learn that making threads about greenland is not gonna make venezuela come back.



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