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>>64782863good post
>>64782863I was excited seeing the pre-b CZ75 then saw the price was 1400 fucking dollars.
>>64782912I'm hoping the street price drops below $1000 after nobody buys it.
>>64775246>>64773591based crack smokers
>>64776255PSA made 2 different meme shotguns?
>>64776385is that a reverse belt clip?>>64776390>>64781091good, subhumans shouldn't be able to use guns
>>64776589it's the biggest predictor of partisanship for voting>>64776654lel, most of them are anti gun
I've been debating between a Smith and Wesson 586 L-comp and a Model 19 K-comp. Smith's QC has had me on the fence, but I'm really wanting one of those 386 nightguards now. I really hope they get their shit together with their QC.
>>647830433, actually. The pump action one, the semi-auto one, and this newest "AXR" monstrosity.>>64782912>>64782934It's kind of ridiculous when pic related routinely sells for half the price of the "new" pre-B model. Maybe there are some serious CZ75 enthusiasts that care about this, but I certainly don't.>>64782243>Is it a contest to see who can have the most unrealistic gun prices now? Fuck it, I wanna pay $30,000 for a regular semiautomatic gun!The "collector series" costing $12k isn't actually a problem - it has unobtanium original furniture from L85A1/A2s, they're only making like 50 of them, and they're marketing it as a limited run for serious British militaria collectors. The real problem is that the "production" model (the one they're going to actually produce for semi-normal people to buy) is only going to be replicating the L85A3... something no one actually wants.
>>64773549>>64777808it's because trump is president so there isn't a ban fear >>64780110most people panic buy so sales went up after sandy hoax and before the 2016 election and then dropped after 2016 then shot up with the fake coof and blm riots and 2020 election and then dropped after Trump got reelected because there isn't a ban risk and also the market is massively fucked due to inflation and a hiring freezepeople don't need to buy guns every year unless you are collecting them like funko pops. you don't buy a car or fridge or washing machine every year. guns are durable goods. they either sell during panics, when someone puts out a fundamentally better product like the sig p365 or when laws get changed like the awb sunsetting, the expansion of CCW or a bunch of states legalizing straight walled hunting rounds. sales will probably pick up in 2028
>>64783092>3, actually. The pump action one, the semi-auto one, and this newest "AXR" monstrosity.I don't understand why they are going in so hard on meme shotguns
>>64783106Sometimes I feel like PSA is to marketing decisions as Keltec is to product design.
>>64780437>>64773721I think savage makes .21 sharp rifles for some fucking reason
>>64780485>>64780536looks better than shit covered in rails
>>64780818I think it attaches to the optics cut
>>64781499>>64781646it's fucking retarded and allegedly it's working cause marketing to the rich is making more in profits or at least that's what publicly traded companies claim
>>64783187>>64781499Yo it might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. You can argue that picrel is sort of fun, cute, and whimsical. Not functional, but cool as a toy or status symbol. But $20k for a retarded and actually gimped Laugo range toy is literally brain-damage tier and I will forever be Laugo's enemy now. The Kel-Tec memes have nothing on those faggots.
>>64783224Forgot pic
>>64783224I pre-ordered one (well, two I guess). Looks perfect for appendix carry.
>>64783092>Maybe there are some serious CZ75 enthusiasts that care about this, but I certainly don'tI think you're wrong on this one. First model 75 is a famous gun for weebs. Id argue it's more of a weeb gun than a firearms collector one. I think it'll sell at least as well as the MK23 once prices get more realistic. I see it settling at $1-1.1k.
Good morning my fellow vegas niggers. time to do 50k steps today.
James, go talk to those fucking SNT Motiv dorks and grill them on the K2.
>>64782851Remember the Pindad FNC's? Normally nothingburgers at SHOT don't hurt... but I actually let myself believe with that one.
>>64783677I was looking forward to their Beretta M12 clones.
what is this?i just saw a bunch of twitter videos in LV during this and it was a bunch of black people throwing garbage cans at each other and beating on each other in the street I thought it was for rednecks who liked guns?
>>64783714You are now experiencing why no one goes to Vegas or any big city anymore.
Can someone check out the Indo MIM and there suppressors? https://www.continuumpowders.com/indo-mim-qualifies-continuum-ni718-for-binder-jet-advanced-manufacturing/
>>64783780Are those the guys who worked on the P320? Or was that MIM'd parts from India?
Anyone got any info on the repros of that old 25 acp CZ being offered by CZ custom? I've only seen it mentioned in one video from range day.>>64783047It's a thumb rest/gas pedal I think
>>64782851>Mossberg shows up with a NEW semi auto shotgun under the Maverick name...>It's TurkishFucking whyyoutube.com/watch?v=2eYNDR9tVS0
>>64783980Looks like the exact same gun (probably is) as my brother's Citadel Warthog he got for $129.99. I mean it runs and it's been a good cheap trap gun, but throwing the Mossberg name on something like that is disgusting.I wonder if it will also come with burrs on the receiver you have to get off with a dremel.
Has there been any cool cowboy stuff
>Chiappa Rhino in 44 magnumI kneel.
>>64783838Couldn't find any info that they do any subcontracting for sig, interestingly they do a lot of 1911 and AR-15 small parts
Can I get a SITREP on the B&T booth anon that posted the VZ51 Skorpion rail accessory? I need to know more about it plz.
>>64783714I saw those too, like this one. It's just shot show attendees gawking at the club fauna. The thing to understand is that vegas isn't a real city at all. It's an amusement park and nothing else of substance exists there. You would never ever wanna live there.>rate the non-shoothttps://twitter.com/Mrgunsngear/status/2013440752492089812
>>64783677>>64783690Pindad gave up on trying to import them after the ATF trouble
>>64784850Go shill your used car salesman aka lgs owner somewhere else twitterfag
>>64783226could you put an FRT in that
>>64784010>the Mossberg nameLmao, they've been shit it's just gonna get more obvious now that belts are tightening and they're outright sourcing turkshit. Mossberg is not a serious brand to consider anymore, they're using very cheap parts these days with many reporting breakages. They were good when they had cheap semiautos but now they want over 1k for the same shit they were selling for cheap 5 years ago.
>>64784086THANK GOODNESS
>>64784860I'm hoping someone with more experience picks them up. Maybe AoA or Atlantic would do it
>Zastava M84 rumored to be less than $6k
Is it just me or this ShotShow complete ass product wise
>>64784882i'm OP. i only saw that post bc crawling twitter is part of how i follow every tradeshow.>>64783047>is that a reverse belt clip?It's a Tandemkross accelerator thumb ledge. They're partnered on this model.>good, subhumans shouldn't be able to use gunsI see ambi more as a design robustness and training thing than a catering to lefties thing. Design robustness: requiring the gun to have symmetrical controls also forces you to improve its internal symmetry, which in turn affects the gun's balance and wear patterns. Training: you want to be able to shoot with both sides. You won't always have full use of both arms/hands/shoulders, and it's like practicing art with your non-dominant hand, or switching hand-to-hand combat stances. It builds hand-eye neuroplasticity.>>64783677Yeah, shit sucks. But it's to be expected with imports.>>64783980Mossberg's shot show appearances have been weird for a while. Last year they had so many new releases that I decided not to post most of them – but none were very interesting. The most interesting was the 590M Standoff: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63212253/#q63216769Someone mentioned recently that they were surprised mossberg is still in business. On the non-LE side, I kind of agree. The descent into turkshit was inevitable.
>>64784850I took LSD in Vegas. You get bored FAST becasue the overwhelming impression is that you're in a random generation never ending same casino money trap like FreeRide Earth, but it's more boring and it's super hard to find your room. But the shower is fuckin AWESOME ON ACID! It's a room size with benches and whores from the bar that only cost a bunch of shots want to party in.
>>64784075Gimme some things you wanna see.ubertitaylor'scimarronpiettahenryetc.
>>64785080Everything you listed but Henry
>>64785072You know it's bad when so far the thing I'm most excited for is just a ball on an AR charging handle so it's easier to use with gloves on >>64780668
Anyone have info on the AKB-23 L86 model?
>>64785080how's the shower?
>>64785104(OP) I can go back to posting again like last year, if anyone wants that. I just don't want to flood if it isn't useful. But I realize that anons can't discuss things they haven't heard about.
>>64782851So is PSA making Ruger RXM compatible stuff now? If so then they sure did jump ship from the daggers pretty quickly>>64785072Seems to be. The most exciting thing is the most exciting thing from last year which was the Korean K2s, and really we just want someone to go over there and yell at the gooks for taking so long
>Still no Daewoo release date or price>X9 is kill>VSS and SVD is kill (big surprise)>SR-3M clone that will totally come out>M84 that will totally be imported in two more weeks>Someone is making a Skorpion chassis (actually cool)>STINC 3 round burst super safety camAnything else worth a shit? This year seems pretty boring desu.
This year I think we're seeing caution/fatigue/correction from the shift in public sentiment toward shot show. Over the past couple years, people have really soured on the show as a place where nothing matters because most of it doesn't get made.
>>64785135Please do, I enjoyed seeing all the stuff you stumbled across at the pavilion of random bullshit. I mean firearms and firearm accessories.
>>64785135Yes please
>>64785154FN LICC still missing
Holy shit it's being released
>>64777615>>64785174▶Magpul × Zev FDP-C and FDP-P (cont.)It's being released today. $1600 MSRP.
>>64783061not worth it anon they're total shit these days its embarrassing
>>64783100people are gonna start buying more as king retard keeps pushing civil war
>>64785169kek that reminds me>Pindad PM12 and FNC completely forgotten
>>64785177Correction: $1700 MSRP.https://youtu.be/lI9KnQB2zAkhttps://zevtechnologies.com/shop/fdp/
>>64785177
>>64785159I think PSA fucking killed shotshow by basically telling everyone that they are just making one bad gun with a bunch of chassis, then also showed yet another 2011 to throw in the pile
>>64785162>>64785168wait, now i have to do itsheeeitk
>>64785154>SVD is kill (big surprise)Is this confirmed?
>>64785104Still can't mortar it when it freezes over, or use the selector switch. Just get an AK if you're operating in an area that requires such large gloves you can't actuate controls.
>>64785080NTA but can you show me what the Smith & Wesson booth has? Mainly interested in their new steel frame M&Ps.
>>64785237They're not answering emails and their website has been down for about a month.
>>64785080Pedersoli has FINALLY made a Baker rifle, and its on the floor. If you could take some pics, or learn the MSRP, I'd appreciate it.
>>64785241I actually live in a desert, I just like balls.
>>64785271It's from last year, but it wasn't in their catalogue at the time. It now is (email walled*).▶Pedersoli 1805 Baker RifleUS: 1995 USDUK: 1745 GBPhttps://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63227537/#q63228098First reviews started appearing last month, e.g.https://youtu.be/56e8eTkLQaALinksUS https://italianfirearmsgroup.com/1805-baker-rifleUK https://henrykrank.com/pedersoli-1805-baker-rifle-the-sharpest-shot-on-the-market* catbox is down for me. I will attach it later if I remember.
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>>64785138PSA demoed or at least talked about a modular dagger at the first shot show they released it at but never brought it to market. I think the RXM more than likely killed it.
>>64785385Are they really calling that thing a brace because...no, no they're not. That's just the stock version.
I was hoping for HK to show the G36 or MP7 that they were talking about,>Here is a VP9 and our MR556 with a new camo coat
more like SLOP Show
>>64785135>>64785135PKM anon here, If you read this and you get a chance. Tomorrow stop by the zastava booth and try and ask these 2 questions with possible pictures if they allow.1) what kind of conversion are they doing with the m84 to get it through the ATF2) If they do bring them in, do they plan on offering bolts/bolt carriers/or conversion pieces for those of us who may have m84 parts kits and want to build/convert them
>>64785455Don't worry I've been set free to post way more things you don't wanna hear about.▶Blind Squirrel Industries 19-15 Gen2 Magazine Adapter>Behold: The first ever adapter that allows you to use 1911 magazines of any caliber in a standard, unmodified AR-15 lower receiver […]30 USD.https://blindsquirrel.enterprises/products/model-1915-magazine-adapter-gen-2
>>64783677I wanted that bm59
new cz457!
▶PRS Recap (pre-show)>SHOT Show 2026: New Precision, Sniper and Extreme Long Range Rifle Announcements Before the EventAn extensive rundown of recent events.Glad to see /prg/ has survived my absence from baking btw.https://blog.roninsgrips.com/shot-show-2026-new-precision-sniper-and-extreme-long-range-rifle-announcements-before-the-event
absolute shit this year. did the guy dropping the guns on purpose show up?
>>64785497Wait, so instead of modifying the magazine well, you modify the magazine itself?That seems…retarded.
>>64785527He's at the show but I haven't seen any butterfingers highlights yet.
>>64785385I'm pretty sure those are SBRs, but i didn't ask either.
>>64785506Hmm, I'll have to take a closer look at cz tomorrow. New kriss cz copy.
>>64785271I didn't pay close enough attention there, but pietta has this
>>64785497>>64785546Is this supposed to be a replacement for grease gun mags?
>>64785591Huxwrx had a pedophile throw merch at people during their patch drop today
>>64783092At that point I'd just get a "regular" 75B.I'm not paying $1300 for one, I'd just save the money and get a Python
>>64785201At least they're releasing something new, it's a good concept and it's actually in production. A lot of these small pop n pop shops just show an extremely early concept just to get funding bux then disappear.If you want something you pretty much have to beg an existing reputable company to make it. There just isn't a market for these old historical guns anymore, yes that includes Cold War era guns now. Everyone wants whizbang tacticool shit they can put all sorts of doodads on which sucks because it all ends up being plastic consoomer grade garbage.
besides the new target cz for 3-positon, any other olympic / issf type firearms announced? Pardini?
>>64785596Back in 2019, when I was still a lowly salesman, the dead air rep asked what I wanted to see from them. I said I wanted a reflex can. All I got from him was a bunch of 'well ackshually' and he spouted off a bunch of nonsense about how trad cans are better than reflex cans because trust me bro. That rep has since been promoted and Dead Air releases a reflex can. How the turn tables
>>64785584What the fuck happened to the handgun market where companies are including screwed-on thumb rest panels but not traditional removable grip panels? It's like they're mocking me, flaunting how they can make a gun with easily customizable ergonomic features, but they deliberately choose not to do it on the grip.
>>64785634fun fact if you cross-section an AB reflex can, it's literally the exact same design as Maxim's OG can from 110 years ago.nothing new under the sun.
>>64785638The seem very 2011ish. Idk if they're actually compatible tho
>>64785640That doesnt mean however that you cant do the reflex chamber properly. I would assume that the CAT VB for example has proper geometry.
What did I think of the SCAR, but half the price?
>>64782851Anything interesting for ban states coming out? New gadgets or workarounds to have some semblance of freedom?
>>64782874Lol. The industry really has been stagnated by lawyer fags suing half the startups out of business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skIf5dRdC3Y
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>>64785780Burgess mogs im afraid
Did Henry announce a new Lever Action Supreme in 7.62x39?
>>64785075>you're in a random generation never ending same casino money trapbaby needs a new pair of shoes
>>64785596Trijicon had a mutant of the same guy throwing merch too.Should've had a True American Hero (picrel) instead.
>>64785527Why do I have a vague memory of laughing my ass off at that. Link the video pls
>>64785497*Blind Squirrel Enterprises (BSE)whoops>>64785593I doubt it. People already do this with their other pistol mags. But 1911 mag angles are tricky, so it needs a different approach. I think it's that simple.
>>64785584Tupac sees no changes from last year: >>63189126 >>63216690 >>63231948
>>64785638The Kymera's gimmick is that it's fully modular. See pics from>>64785814or >>64785652 (same layout as last year)
Anons. I ordered a lelkek PR-3AT on Monday and it was at the lgs today. I got a sub-50 serial number. It's amazing. No idea if it works but I love it
>>64785829very cool, congrats
>>64785431So it's safe to say the RXM has killed the dagger and PSA is going all in on making products for it? That's kinda funny. Shoulda partnered with Magpul fucking nerds
▶Weatherby 25 WBY RPM cartridge>Introducing the 25 WBY RPM. Built off of our Rebated Precision Magnum (RPM) cartridge, the 25 RPM is optimized for use with heavy-for-caliber modern bullets.https://weatherby.com/25-weatherby-rpmhttps://youtu.be/7CGaF3_l5tU
anybody been to the arc division booth (#10752)? Curious if they have any slide/frame products
So do people just go to these things to kinda browse and then hit the slots? Or is this year's kinda muted
>>64783714>i just saw a bunch of twitter videos in LV during this and it was a bunch of black people throwing garbage cans at each other and beating on each other in the streetthat has nothing to do with shotshow. it's just normal vegas behavior>>64783771vegas got fucked by the sports betting legalization
>>64783980because turkish labor is so cheap it you can't compete at that price point. most people buying a shotgun to actually use it either pay a premium or buy a mav88/mossberg 500 and call it a day. if you want a semi auto shotgun at that price point, it's gunna be turkshit
>>64784075henry has changed the way they labeled their guns and is making slightly less ugly .30-30s and more ugly tacticool .22 abominations
>>64785072the market's fucked. everyone bought ARs and shit during the sandy hoax and coof panics. sales are down because Trump is president so there isn't a threat to gun availability and hyper inflation and the hiring crisis is fucking everyone so companies are pushing either meme shit for the super rich or mall ninja lever guns and mall ninja shotguns
>>64785073>Someone mentioned recently that they were surprised mossberg is still in businessI was the one who kept making those threads and I guess I'm vindicated
>>64785182post gunz, tranny
>>64785271neat. I should get into BP
>>64785182You live in an alternate reality
>>64785591what is it?
>>64786109You think pol refugees have guns?
Hm, it looks quite nice...
>>64785780>>64785787isn't this just that weird beretta they made that doesn't work but they made it because there was going to be some rule change for trap that said the guns had to break open to show safe?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2jdvP4J8RnM
>>64785080Suppressors
>>64786125oh I know that faggot doesn't have gunz
>>64785619New? This shit ain't even remotely new at all. It's a temu version of most shit out there and whatever the fuck cmmg does. It's embarrassing and tells me they somehow care even less than I thought they did.
>>64782851>people whining about "NOTHING DIFFERENT AT SHOT SHOW">everyone ignoring whatever the absolute FUCK the "Blecher BrashZero Caseless Bullpup Rifle" is>https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2026-blecher-brashzero-caseless-bullpup-rifle-44825533Whichever anon(s) are there can you please ignore the big established corporate slop and go find out what the next keltecs are doing (in terms of both drugs and guns)?
>>64786131>Mossberg be like>Gib $1000 for this pump action please
>>64786209>>https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2026-blecher-brashzero-caseless-bullpup-rifle-44825533IT'S BACK FROM THE DEAD
>>64786209
>>64786209interesting. it has a reservoir of loose powder that is fed to the chamber by a plunger to avoid cookoffs and the headaches in creating a durable compound that must resist cracking and cookoffs at the same time. So it's actually closer in concept to that hydrazine gun than to the MKR >>64786226. Makes it EVEN CRAZIER.
>>64786209holy shit this is not another Metalstorm hack, this guy is for real a hyperborean turboautist
>>64785780Im surprised that they didnt made a folding pistolgrip so it tucks away even better like the old burgess >>64785787
>>64783047M-lock gas peddle
Was there anything from Century arms? new roller locks or import AKs?
>>64786209Tomorrow I plan on doing a grid of the catacombs looking for stupid shit. I'll see if i can find that. >day 1's haul
>>64786337>day 2
>>64786308>biology>smart
>>64786337>Tomorrow I plan on doing a grid of the catacombs looking for stupid shit. I'll see if i can find that.You're a gentleman anon.
>>64786333I didn't see anything new or interesting from them>>64786340Now just a couple mildly interesting sightsSpuhr AR
>>64786358P365 flux thing. I forget who's booth this was, but I remember seeing it at range day.
>>64786366Armed drone above sig booth
>>64785819I will never accept complex "grip modules" as a substitute for normal grip panels, or even H&K-style polymer grip side plates. If I can't make it out of a 2x4 and some files, then I'm reliant on the manufacturer to give a shit about offering a real variety of grip module options, and reality has shown that they don't. Sadly, Sig of all companies is the only one that backs up the "Modular" marketing term with a wide range of grips instead of just small/medium/large, while everyone else relies on the aftermarket to take up the slack.
>>64786371Aero and friends conspicuously missing from their massive booth locations
>>64786377And finally, to reiterate that this thing actually exists and is 20k
>>64785634>Beretta M12Congrats on your new suppressor
>>64786371Can it carry an artillery round and smash into tanks?
>>64786123From there website, it is a Smith Calvary Carbine.
>>64786381>$20k>>64786424thanks
>>64786424Ah yeah, that's the name. I couldn't remember
>>64785154>Still no Daewoo release date or priceIf those handguns end up being vaporware I'm going to be so mad.
>>64786477>tfw no day and no woo
▶Cooper Model 5200 RifleNew rifle from Cooper, owned by Nighthawk Custom. Available in AAA+ and Exhibition grades, plus a Proof Research cf barrel option.https://cooperrifles.com/arkansas-model-5200
>>64786381>Modern DoppleGlockAbsolute, incredibly, superbly, based. They'll never sell one to a sane person, but it's great to see the engineers have some fun replicating an old meme.
>>64786545The glockinator is IMO the best rendition
https://youtu.be/CvnAvyvHDRYSo last year they said they were spinning up production in Las Vegas and would have no issues making the K2 here in the US, and that would be great because they wouldn't have to deal with the ATF cucking them with import laws. Now, for some reason, they're struggling to make lowers here in the states and they are fighting to get the uppers imported. This shit is so frustrating. It's probably going to be another year until we see a single fucking product from this company.
>>64786509>no irons
>>64786560He said he made the crazy suggestions of "import the K7 as a pistol" and "partner with a US company for the suppressor" and it was well received. If they weren't just being polite and humoring him, the K2 is never coming out because they did literally zero research.
>>64786658Same thought I had. Like, they have to know how to best import the K7. No way it could come as an ready-to-go SBR. They need to go to the Zastava booth and take a fucking class.
Good morning walmart shoppers.▶CZ-457 Target Competition RifleA 22LR meant for ISSF 3-position shooting.https://czfirearms.com/en-us/products/rimfire-rifles/cz-457-series/cz-457-targethttps://youtu.be/lWqbK0fHK4k
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▶Jacob GreyJacob Grey has released three new products. Two are pistols and one is a piece of pistol hardware. Image: giveaway pistols. These three are unique and the fourth is a standard Nox 9 (to follow).Booth interviewhttps://youtu.be/wSElG_YMeZ4PR (overall)https://files.catbox.moe/kos0g2.pdfhttps://jacobgreyfirearms.com/2026-shot-show
>>64786403It can probably take a fall off a bench unlike a temu drone.
▶Jacob Grey Hex Pro 2011 PistolRevised follow-up to last year's TWC Hex pistol. Stainless 4.6"/1:10 chunk ported barrel (pvd) on a billet 4140 frame (dlc). 9 lb recoil spring. Single-stage, 2.5–3 lb "controlled radius" trigger. 7075 aluminum grip.size: 8.50 × 5.75 × 1.25 inchesmass: 36.5 oz4800 USD.Last Yearhttps://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63227537/#q63232681PRhttps://files.catbox.moe/32k1s5.pdfProduct Pagehttps://jacobgreyfirearms.com/shop/hextm-complete-handgun-4060Spec Sheethttps://files.catbox.moe/xpmaz5.pdf
>>64787000
▶Jacob Grey Nox 9 2011 Pistol5800 USD.Product Pagehttps://jacobgreyfirearms.com/shop/nox-9-complete-handgun-42824k turntable videohttps://vimeo.com/1123271955/e7bb3e16a6?fl=pl&fe=vl
▶Jacob Grey Recoil Reaper™ SystemHydraulic recoil guide rod. 229 USD.PRhttps://files.catbox.moe/uybvhd.pdf
▶Magzipp AR-15 Speedloader SystemA 5-lane magazine loader built around an ammo can. Designed for buddy loading, with the bullet block's lane tolerances set up so that you can't unintentionally hook inside lanes while outer lanes are full.200 USD.https://buymagzipp.com/products/magzipp-speed-loading-system
▶Northrop Grumman × Barrett Precision Grenadier System (PGS)This is odd. Unofficially, Northrop has selected Barrett to produce their entry for the US Army's PGS procurement program. Barrett has its own, separate entry in collaboration with MARS Inc. The former is 25mm and the latter is 30mm.
▶Rideout Arsenal Dragon PistolLow bore-axis, lever-delayed.3600 USD for the gun.5500 USD for the 'ultimate package'.https://rideout-arsenal.mybigcommerce.comhttps://youtu.be/Qodbwp34nmghttps://youtu.be/g96TLYrf2Qw
▶Spohr N643 Standard 6.0 Revolver8-shot 357Mag revolver from Germany.4200 USD.https://spohrguns.com/spohr-revolver_products/n643-standard-6-357
▶Vudoo Gunworks Priest Carry PistolPolymer grip instead of aluminum.
▶North Country Armory Reduced Heat Signature SuppressorThe Reduced Heat Signature (RHS) Series from North Country Armory prioritizes thermal management while maintaining effective sound suppression.https://thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2026-north-country-armory-reduced-heat-signature-suppressor-44825545
▶YNG Arms BANDIT Revolver RifleTurkshit available in black and nickel.They have other designs on the site.Walnut.357Mag45LC9mm410https://yngarms.com/rv-11https://yngarms.com/rv-12https://yngarms.com/gallery
>>64787090Man these newfangled wood stocks with angular shapes and mlok insets are pure fucking cancer.
▶Stuff and Things Cam Activated Reset Limiter C.A.R.L.3-round burst for Super Safeties. 145 USD.>The Cam Activated Reset Limiter is a drop-in, patent pending, no-modification-required system for your existing AR-15 Super Safety that extends the release of your trigger every time three rounds are fired. This helps slows down the user’s cadence, allowing for target re-acquisition and potentially reducing the rate at which ammunition is expended (depending on the user, of course).https://stincusa.com/product/cam-activated-reset-limiter-for-super-safetiesLaunch videoshttps://youtu.be/1Hn7Xj1tpwwhttps://youtu.be/4MMumRHiFsw
Hey Nopel did you bring anything new?
>>64786209i have no idea how its supposed to work
>>64786308ok that is pretty interesting if it is realthis might be another lex friedman with spiced up diploma from a college he never went to
▶HM Defense Peak Pressure Reservoir and Booster SystemPPR & Booster technology allows for increased projectile energy and efficiency while reducing unwanted side effects like noise, flash and barrel heating.https://hmdefense.com/html/technology.html (Pending)>>64787211He posts here. I'll get to all his stuff in a bit.
▶ヽ(°〇°)ﾉhttps://files.catbox.moe/gzcois.mp4
>>64786996Good for tracking down hollow man
https://youtu.be/TSDbAAeYuNMComment asking about the K2 got a reply from TFB saying they're jusy waiting on BAFTE and that it's coming. Gonna watch the video in a few mins. I do like odd revolvers.
▶Super Seer Defense in Motion Ballistic Motorcycle HelmetsSuper Seer Corporation today announced the launch of Defense in Motion (DIM), a first-of-its-kind ballistic motorcycle helmet platform designed to protect law enforcement officers operating in motion, under threat, and across multiple mission profiles.Defense in Motion is the industry’s first helmet platform engineered to meet both DOT and NIJ certifications, bridging the longstanding gap between vehicular safety and ballistic protection. Built specifically for officers who operate motorcycles, ATVs, and mobile tactical platforms, DIM represents a new category of officer head protection.https://superseer.com/defense-in-motion
>>64787260How did a couple deleted subreddits manage to take over half the internet?
▶Trikke Positron 72V XL EVTrikke Professional Mobility is a US-based manufacturer and sole distributor of rugged professional-grade personal electric patrol vehicles with a proprietary 3-wheel cambering design for efficiently moving around large campuses, congested areas, inner city and public events. Our flagship model—the Positron 72V XL —has a speed of up to 35 mph and can go as far as 30 miles on a single charge.https://trikkemobility.com
▶StewTech Ghost Badger Tactical EVStewTech Inc. announces the launch of its Ghost Badger compact tactical electric vehicle, engineered to provide military users and law enforcement officers greater tactical advantage and multi-mission versatility at a lower lifetime cost.https://soldiersystems.net/2026/01/16/new-ghost-badger-tactical-ev-advances-power-stealth-speed-for-military-and-law-enforcement-usershttps://stewtechinc.com/shot-show
▶Holmatro T1 Forcible Entry ToolHydraulic entry toolhttps://holmatro.com/na/en/rescue/forcible-entry-tool-t1
▶Caldwell ClayCopter Surface-To-AirNew clay gizmo. 550 USD.https://caldwellshooting.com/claycopter-shop/claycopter-surface-to-air/1222326.htmlhttps://youtu.be/oHBziRzoHkE
>>64785814>Tupac sees no changesKek. That’s just the way it is
>>64787020I want one of these things before they inevitably go out of business.
>>64787245How are you supposed to clean this?
▶PSA 9mm Krinkhttps://youtu.be/0k0ABDp8ylg
>>64787292WTF? There is NO NIJ certification for helmets. It doesn't exist. Why lie about this?
>>64787591I am not even sure of what the diagram is supposed to be indicating. They're established autists though.
▶Tippmann Pirate PistolTippmann's back with the Stevens Visible Loader prototype.https://files.catbox.moe/k5eamc.mp4
>>64787687They have a series of small expansion chambers cut along the barrel.Seems like it would quickly get clogged up with powder/jacket residue and be near impossible to clean out.
>>64787741That's how I interpreted it, but surely there's more than that.
>>64787737Maybe I'm uncultured or whatever, but what about this design makes it a pirate pistol? Doesn't look anything like an old matchlock or wheel lock gun to me. Does this have something to do with Somalians or am I just missing something?
>>64787737As a pistol I dont get the apeal, but a pump rifle with a loading gate is nice
>>64786996This being on a Beretta activates my brain more than anything
>>64782863fpbpThe gun industry in America has not made anything new that's good in like 25+ years.It's just a gadget show for AR15s.
is it really true that you should go to shotshow at least once in your life?
>>64787831I thought it wasn't open to the public.
>>64787772Look closer>>64787831Yeah, if you get a chance to attend, it's worth it at least once. >>64787843Also true, you have to be in the industry to attend
>>64787737Slam firing pump action .380... something from Tippmann wasn't on my bingo card but I find myself captivated
is there anything interesting in terms of knives?>>64787245for someone so innovative they sure can't make a nice looking image. do they not have CAD?>>64787737>>64787752i guess it looks vaguely like a flintlock or something. if you're BLIND. maybe they didn't want to market it as something wild-west (which would've made a lot more sense), maybe thinking that it's a played-out subject?it is cool that it can slamfire though. still perhaps the most impractical .380 pistol in existence. maybe they'll come out with a long gun version at some point, i'd expect that to find more popularity.
these are neat if for no other reason than how silly they are
>>64788085and i forgot the linkhttps://youtu.be/7zFIUiUD_4c
What's the deal with forced reset triggers at shot show? Nevada supposedly bans FRTs with their 2019 "bump stock ban", but there are companies showing off/demoing FRTs at shot show. Does the law not actually cover FRTs? Or does nobody just give a fuck about the law?
>>64787859Literally just need to be fat, beard, sunglasses and any lanyard to get in after the first day
>>64788153If I had to guess, a large part is because Shot Show is like the 6th largest expo held in Vegas every year, so just due to the amount of capital they bring in for the state probably grants them some leeway. Also, why risk arresting people who would actually have the funds and backing to fight an FRT charge AND drive away a massive money-making event for your state, when you could just turn a blind eye, wait a week, and then arrest a random resident (who likely has no resources) to set an example instead?
>>64788153>>64788310Everyone producing stuff at Shot Show has an FFL. I'm not Nevadan and don't know the exact details of the law in question but I think it's typical that there are exceptions for FFLs, in the same way you can see machine guns shown off at SS and other stuff intended for police or military that are illegal. Maybe there's some exception around that, seems odd that you'd be able to demo a machine gun but not an FRT. And since they're legal in other states, just demoing stuff that isn't for sale seems like it'd be OK.As >>64788310 says it's not inconceivable that they're just not enforcing it, but given there are actually quite a lot of regulations around firearms manufacturing and these are businesses not just rando civvies I think it's more likely there is some sort of exception around>"it's legal to demo stuff you're legally allowed to make for sale anywhere in the US even if you can't sell it direct to people here"or>"since FFLs are under federal law that preempts in this case"or something.
>>64788085A modern trapper pistol is a cool novelty.
>>64788390This. Most states backdoor all their ban laws for LE which also means FFLs get the backdoor too.
>>64787752>>64787899I'm not 100% that Pirate Pistol is the actual name. There's no documentation on it.
>>64787737Oh shit, they brought it back! Tippmann brought this thing to Shot 2025, apparently more as a display piece than anything. It received almost zero coverage except for Fuddbusters, who immediately recognized it as an overgrown Visible Loader. Glad to see they haven't forgotten it.>>64787090Hate to admit it, but depending on the cost I could actually see getting one. I was always tempted by the Taurus Circuit Judge, but it was obviously just an existing revolver with a long barrel and a weirdly shaped stock, and it cost a little too much money for what it was. Maybe being Turkshit this will be cheap enough to justify the purchase.
>>64788390there's no FFL exemption for the NV law. The only exemptions are LEO/Military on official duty
>>64788649Yeah that situation is why I went looking for it. He also uploaded it to a second account (FuddBlasters) so it had even less visibility last year.▶Pietta 357 RevolverColt Python clone. Has been identified both as PDA 357 and Blacktooth. Typical lack of clarity from the Italo-cowboy clique of companies.Video in italian about it.https://youtu.be/W3fvjrFuhE4
Important, well-adjusted lessons in Shot Show history happening on twitter. He actually made two posts like this. At least it's not another post talking about the midgets this year.
>>64788471It is in fact the name.https://thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2026-tippmann-ordnance-pirate-pistol-new-16-22lr-gatling-gun-44825638
>>64787020Hey, it's competitively priced with with all those boutique 2011's I can't be bothered to give a damn about, although it's still definitely in competition gun territory so it'd had better compete there at least. >>64787415>>64787406Somehow, I don't think whatever they're charging for these will really be worth it over e-bikes, electric unicycles, or even electric skateboards.
>>64786377I saw today that my local gun store was bringing in M5 receivers at 140. I think they are in big trouble and are getting ready to go bankrupt.>>64788153The law does no such thing according to how it is written. Even bumpstocks now would be allowed thanks to the federal bumpstock ban falling apart.The State AG asked rare greed to not return them to Nevadans and they agreed to do so and then he wrote a press release saying he was going to fight against machinegun conversion devices.>>64788658Go read what the law actually says. It bans absolutely nothing thanks to court cases after it was passed.
>>64785271>baker rifleDoes it have the garbage, shallow rifling that pedersoli puts on their other reproductions? Still fucking mad about buying an 1961 and finding out that the rifling isn't actually deep enough to spin a bullet unless you custom size something tight as fuck and patch it.
https://files.catbox.moe/ko3499.mp4
What a horrible year honestly, I can't think of one thing I was impressed by
>>64785763Oh hey, I remember that from Ghost in the Shell. ...I bet that's why they think they can get away with charging $1250 for something that's not even under pressure. >>64786209>Once the magazine is removed from the gun (whether because it’s empty or not), it can not be reinserted. The magazines are not designed to be refilled with the ammo components in the field, but it can be done at an armorer's level.And there you go, the reason that's not going to work.
>>64787600Why...? Just get an AKV? Why would you buy a Krink in 9mm
>>64785154Jeremy answered that they're working on manufacturing receivers stateside while figuring out what they'll be able to import. Part of the delay is also because of the South Korean's export process.
>>64788970Listings for SNT motive>K2SP$1800https://centerfiresystems.com/snt-defense-daewoo-k2sp-5-56x45-rifle/>STSM21$1500https://centerfiresystems.com/daewoo-snt-defense-stsm21-9mm-6-5-semi-auto-smg-delayed-blowback-new/>DP51$500https://centerfiresystems.com/snt-defense-daewoo-dp51-9mm-pistol/If they can knock one or two hundred off there prices they'll sell fine. Don't buy the DP51, it's probably the second worst pistol used by a major military
>>64786340Which company was giving out toasters?
>>64786337What did arktis have? I'm kind of butthurt that none of the stuff I want is for sale here.
>>64783780Seems legit.pdf I think they're just offering to OEM for people
>>64789089And the flow thru>>64789063Aimpoint surprisingly >>64789083Nothing is for sale here. All we can do is order for later. And i passed by there, but didn't really look. I'll go check them out again
>>64789113strangely based
>>64788153Probably went like this:>Jew says you can't do FRTs>people bring them and do it anyway>there weren't any cops there>the cops don't actually care anyway and would probably just ask to shoot itI work for a sheriff, in one of the most restrictive states no less, who says don't enforce any bullshit gun laws. FRTs are pushing it but if everyone else can have them it isn't fair to just punish citizens of certain states. Getting red blooded cops to enforce gun laws is a challenge anyway unless the person holding them is a felon or bad dude, this is why they have to use absolute clowns like the feds and have whole dedicated agencies for it or it wouldn't get done because no one gives a shit.
>>64789113Free beer and dip in front of the infitac booth
>>64789113If you remember, tell them to bring the stowaway shirt and rain trousers in tundra to the US store. I already got everything else I needed but I can only find those in xs and small. Please and thank you.
>>64789089>>64789113Damn, someone actually took up my request. Wasn't expecting much, just thought it was funny when I saw them in the exhibitors list
>>64789083They said they are in the midst of updating their US website and should be available for order in the next month or so.
>>64783980Nort HavenLmao
>>64789274Oh are you there now? I forgot Vegas is a different time zone so I figured it was done for the day. Thanks for asking, just checked and their website is back up which is cool. Were they American or did they have bongs come over for the show?
>>64789289I talked to a 7/10 bong chick. The accent probably put her at a 8/10. I've left since then. Its ending in about 30 minutes. Last day is swag day. If you're attending, go by the geissele booth. They will be giving away stickers by the package so they don't have to ship them back.
>>64789161Shit, meant to post a pic with that
>>64789306This felt much more complete than the VSS. Also, racking the bolt didn't lock up the entire action, unlike the VSS last year.
>>64789317It still didn't fit together perfectly, but it felt much more solid.
>>64789324
>>64789327The guy said that an alleged ex-russian spec ops guy stopped by at some point and said this felt like a carbon copy of the one he used. Who knows if anyone is telling the truth.
>>64789309>>64789306Cheers. >The accent probably put her at a 8/10.That'll do it.
>>64789332Other cool shit at thw same guy's booth
>>64788940>Once the magazine is removed from the gun (whether because it’s empty or not), it can not be reinserted. The magazines are not designed to be refilled with the ammo components in the field, but it can be done at an armorer's level.>And there you go, the reason that's not going to work.lol, what are you supposed to do with the gun when you run out of ammo in the field? Throw it away? Not like anybody else will be able to use it. Also, how the fuck are you supposed to clear jams?
>>64789356hold the fort
>>64789356Takedown AR buffers. Instead of folding, they twist and pull off. Packs flatter than folders and they will sell half of the system if you wanted to populate multiple stocks or buffer weights.
>>64789367Papaw was doing hot laps in the cop trike
>>64788752>Yeah that situation is why I went looking for it. He also uploaded it to a second account (FuddBlasters) so it had even less visibility last year.Thanks for looking into it. I'm now seeing several major media outlets talking about it, so it's getting much more attention this year.>Pietta 357 Revolver Colt Python clone.I would unironically be more interested in an Italian Python clone than a NuColt Python. Especially if it's the original Python design, rather than the reworked, modernized one.>>64788883>Does it have the garbage, shallow rifling that pedersoli puts on their other reproductions? No idea. In fairness, the original rifling of this period was, shallow, slow, and required patched bullets. In either case, I don't really care. The Baker rifle reproduction is something that has quite literally been in the making for 15+ years. A very vocal group of enthusiasts have been begging for it, and Pedersoli has finally answered. Before now, the only options for a Baker rifle were 1. A shitty un-rifled, Baker look-a-like musket 2. A half-finished parks kit from a small shop in Oklahoma that you then have to craft into a working gun 3. An original genuine Baker for $10k+Within a certain niche group, this is a big deal.>>64789019>Don't buy the DP51, it's probably the second worst pistol used by a major militaryWhat's wrong with it? I know the "triple action" thing is gimmicky, but I never heard they were actually bad. $500 seems reasonable for something in this category.
The Bear's Leg makes me giggle, but even though I've wanted a Mare's Leg for at least a decade, that's all it does for me.Someone tell me more about that Dae-Woo Bibimbap MP5.
>>64789332Boris from Atrius?
>>64789362https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vzvtn2vQl4o
>>64787737That's actually really cool. They need to make a rifle version though. >inb4 a .380 rifle is stupidfuck you I want one
>>64789367>CmmgNo way that shit is going to work right
>>64789390I played with the tippmann pistol. You gotta work the action with some force, but it seems pretty solid otherwise. I also looked at the pietta python. The guy there said their goal is to make it near parts interchangeable with an old python. So if people need replacement parts for their real python, they can get some from pietta, and a little fitting will fix an otherwise broken gun.
>>64789482What? Why wouldn't that work? >>64789486A look at the opposite side
>>64786340>day 3
>>64789367ARfag cope lmao, just get a modern rifle. I stopped clinging to cold war era shit (specifically AKs) when I realized how much easier it is to set up a modern rifle than having to search far and wide for compatible parts to get those things to be comfy and work for you. Even the AR is annoying in many ways. That stupid buffer is a relic, just get a rifle with a folding stock if that's what you want, or better yet a bullpup. Stocks serve no purpose except adjusting between lengths when wearing armor vs no armor, which none of you notrainings need to worry about because you don't do it anyway.
>>64789499The completed Huxwrx set
What happened to the guy who was making an American VSS chambered in 300blk?
>>64789509Sold the prototype for meth probably
>>64785780That pistol grip is really holding it back. The barrel should have folded sideways.
>>64789492>>64789486that's cool and all, but they need to make it into a carbine>>64789362Preorders on the dude's sight are $650. It feeds from PPS-43 magazines. I honestly kinda want one over the AKV I have>>64785271>>64789390>'ere's 40 shillings on the drum, for those who volunteeeeer to come
>>64789332Legendary autist Ian McCollum grilled the guy making this like it was a job interviewhttps://youtube.com/shorts/w6ScYWpHBB4
>>64789531>preorders on the dude's sitelink?
>>64789525The bird head grip one folds too and not much further than the pistol grip one. I think it's a cool concept, would get it if semiauto and it folded more. Not sure how they'd achieve that since the mag tube runs into the trigger guard making it kinda bulky to fit in a pack or any type of scabbard. It also doesn't lock into place when folded so seems cumbersome.
>>64789579nvm I found it
>>64789582Hold up we got a scandal here...Found this other version too, note the price. They're probably from the same turkshit factory but the jeet importing semiautos is selling them for $160 compared to the guys who only got pumps selling them for $650. This is the same gun obviously, has the same takedown mechanism and even has the same grips, but the $650 guys (RIA) are claiming they're made in the US? How the fuck? They gotta be lying, probably assemble them in the US and claim US made.https://youtu.be/c4rpMaKDsv8
>>64789358>lol, what are you supposed to do with the gun when you run out of ammo in the field? Throw it away? Not like anybody else will be able to use it. Also, how the fuck are you supposed to clear jams?My Tediore works just fine. skill issue
>>64783226Elmer Fudd was like alright I'll get an AR-15 under one condition.
>>64786131it amazes me how bad a magazine goes with a shotgun and how much better sense a tube makes for it
>>64785763>designed for a concealable rifle/pcc to have the absolute quickest deployment>waste am extra second deploying the stockWould be better as a bullpup, they're always ready to go. You grandpas are gonna have to get over this buttstock fad, they're inferior.
>>64789818It's not meant to be practical, it's meant to be that briefcase gun from Ghost in the Shell. ...Which means they actually should have made it smaller.
>>64789317>>64789324>>64789327>>64789332I want this and the M84 to be real so badly, but i'll believe it when I can actually buy one.>>64789531>Preorders on the dude's sight are $650Where at? I was hoping to see this thing this year, but I hadn't seen any mention of it til now.
>>64789952>Where at?Yahoo is your friend, comrade
>>64790036Yeah I found it, couldn't remember the name there for a sec. Doesn't seem like you can pre-order any more right now anyway. Assuming they intend to sell more, i'll just wait to see what the overall opinion on the final product is before I pick one up.
>>64789019For the STSM21, is their delayed blowback a copy of the MPX's gas system or is it something original?
>>64786993unironically probably the most exciting thing this shotshow
>>64787013that's neat
>>64790047I haven't been able to find any information
>>64789390The triple action is the best thing it has going for it by far its like HK LEM, just buy a later manufactured Lionheart - it's a vastly improved DP51It's not baaaaad it's just basically a reworked S&W 3rd gen - which were well and truly behind the pack of wonder nines in that by leaps and bounds
>>64790178On how it actually works
>>64790180I had a Lionheart LH9 and sold it because of the triple action. Well basically sold it because I don't like double action, and the triple action is just another complication. I use that word very lightly, it can just cause manual of arms confusion. I was trained on striker fire single actions and always stuck to the simplicity of it. Having two different things happen when you pull the trigger is weird. There are some pros to it though, I'll use the triple action specifically. I did choose that because it's an improved double action due to the way it "decocks.">double action gives you second strike capability (typically all hammer fires do) so if you get a light strike you get a second, harder strike, and the increased trigger weight indicates to you that something is wrong (not that you'll notice it when shitting your pants in a real gunfight)>the triple action allows you to safely holster, the safest way to holster a hammer fire is with the hammer down and your thumb behind the hammer, so it can't actuate and fire even if something pushes against the trigger. With the LH9 you can "decock" it to triple action mode, and your thumb is already right where it needs to be to holster. Then when you draw to your first shot, it's already in single action (the triple action is basically a long single action and allows you to carry SA with the hammer down)It's also the only gun I've ever ND'd attempting to drop the hammer to get it into double action mode, and I blame the light SA trigger pull if I had to blame something mechanical. So maybe a DA/SA with decocker is safer if you have that autism where you want to carry in DA. For me it's SAO or DAO with a safety, obviously I'm dumb so the redundancy is useful.
>>64787008>>64787000I think the people who sell (and buy) 2011's for these prices are smoking crack. There's absolutely no way the actual Boomers (not what we call Boomers) still are creaking around in their mobility scooters and picking up 2011's for that much money. I refuse to believe it. I believe even less that it's physically possible to do anything to a 2011 to materially cause its construction to exceed $2,000 grand short of giving it to Johnny Dang.
>>64782912>want a bunch of cool niche guns as a teenager>cant buy them >become young man with a job and money>can buy guns now>all the guns I wanted are expensive as fuck now and I have other shit to pay for that prohibits me from buying said expensive gunsGonna kill myself for real
>>64790250You can't have a collection now, collecting is a thing of the past. Prohibited by current excessive costs. Companies are charging way more than guns are worth in parts and labor. So just pick one gun that's your go-to rifle and go-to pistol. There will be a time in the future where you settle on one rifle and one pistol as your go-tos anyway and you'll wonder why you even have a pile of other guns. They turn out to be a waste of money. I went through every arcane cold war era gun that's shilled on here and found them all to be pieces of shit that were hard to use and accessorize. Modern rifles are all made with standard optics mounts, tons of mlok slots, built in QD sockets, standard threads, thumb selectors, and left side charging handles. The vast majority of new designs being produced are this way because that's the best way to do a gun (for handguns most are ok with just a polymer strikershit). So you have that going for your generation, a shit ton of user friendly guns on the market where all the kinks are already worked out by us older generations trying to bubba our guns to make them usable.You could get one go-to user friendly modern rifle, and have an alternating fun rifle. Get a G3 this year, sell it and get an AK, sell it and get something else, etc. It basically gives you around $1k in assets, and guns typically retain their value or go up if you sell during election season or libshit freakout season (like now). I guarantee you will get sick of these guns and have no real need or want for them.
>>64789818You're retarded.>>64789829Good on you for spotting the reference. $1250 for this is extremely fair when you consider that an Airshit version would probably be much higher for no reason. As for the stock, someone will just make an aftermarket one that's spring loaded. >What after market?Just watch. There will be one guy who does it for the love of the game, just like everything else when some autistic person sees a problem they feel needs fixing. This is why Flux's PCCs got extremely popular. No one was making spring loaded collapsible or swing frames around a glonk or sig, and so they just swooped in. Now everyone and their mother suddenly remembers that spring loaded stocks have been around since the 70s but then died out because Fudds sporterized everything to shit.
>>64790276>Pick go-to pistol because it's an LEO contract firearm made by a reputable manufacturer and also it was in RE3>Contract ends, manufacturer is no longer reputable and RE3 remake is disappointing-_-
>spas12 clone spotted on the floor>it's turkshit
>>64790276>excessive costsDESU, these really only exist with the 90% of your post. As in, everything after the gun itself is the expensive part. The gun? Not expensive. There are dudes walking around with optics on their EDC that are more expensive than the EDC itself. Why? Because everyone lost their minds and thinks parts need to last for 500,000 rounds or they're dogshit. What I did, and I don't give a fuck if it makes me look poor, was to get the absolute minimum number of things I needed to work with the maximum number of things and leave the rest without those accessories. I just take the sight off and put it on the gun I want to shoot. I don't care if it takes 5 minutes. I don't run around with a collection of suppressors, I have three (3) and will never need to buy another because those three cover 95% of every single caliber that'll ever be produced or still is produced due to the range they cover. CAGLARP retards slamming into Boomer "I know what I got" is why we are where we are.
>>64790300Then just buy it for the stock. The original SPAS12 stock is worth more than the actual gun is. Then go buy yourself a SPAS12. Simple as.
>>64790296STI Eagle was better anyways.
>>64790300Don't care I'll still buy it. It'll probably run as well as a real one anyway.
>>64787737This thing makes me so happy. I hope they see the value in a rifle version, though. If it's anything like a real visible loader, the strange receiver makes the barrel feel a lot shorter than it really is. The bolt literally hangs out in open air when pumped all the way back. SBR versions, threaded versions, sky is the limit. Might be cool to thread one and silence it but I'm not sure how strong the lockup is on that design. May be the second gun using that design ever as far as I know.
>>64790303It damn well better be since you have to fight Nemesis for it and Nemesis is complete bullshit outside of like 3 fights.
>>64787097agreed>>64787090imagine the shavings hitting your hands
>>64790296When I said pick a go-to I didn't mean pull something out of a trash pile in India. You should think long term, you want it to last. None of these plastic guns are gonna still be functioning in a generation or two when the you-know-whos outright ban guns and your children and grandchildren have to fight. Buy steel guns and steel mags. Definitely not plastic and not even aluminum, I've handled a Vietnam era M16 and the aluminum was all grinded up, especially the mags which no longer had BHO function and needed duct tape to keep the floorplates on because the tabs were long gone. Demand the market to make steel guns again if they're gonna charge so much. It should at least be of lasting quality.
>>64787194why?
>>64787737why?>>64787752same
>>64787737>>64788649the miserable loader is based. I'd buy that in a .22 rifle but not a .380 pistol
>>64788886based>>64788940oh yeah they did have those in gits
>>64789356>>64789362>bayonet behind the barrelwhy?
>>64787024MAKE ONE WITH AN OFFICER LENGTH SLIDE THAT FLUSH-FITS G26 MAGS
>>64790215HK's LEM is quite simply much more matured than the DP51's Triple Action gimmick - a LEM Gun is never in a single action state - its either decocked or its in LEM with a consistent long take-up with a shorter reset (depending on LEM type - light, med, heavy LEM exist)
>>64789423Ian looks like a homo and that other guy looks like such a slob>>64789463it's a stevens miserable loader but in pistol .380 instead of rifle .22 rimfire
>>64790674Battle testing these consoomer prodoocts by dropping them is based, not filming the reactions is fail.
>>64790701HK's LEM or Sig's DAK are pretty much perfect pistol manual of arms. Hammer fire is always more reliable of a strike, especially internal hammers, with a stout second strike pull as an indicator of failure.
>>64789501>, or better yet a bullpup.>t. no gunz
>>64789531>but they need to make it into a carbinelook up the steven's miserable loader, it's the same gun
>>647902482011's were also specifically designed to ease the manufacturing burden over 1911's - you have a frame which is essentialy a milled block (it can also be stamped) with minimal machining operations compared to a railed 1911 frame and a sub frame that can be mostly polymer.Staccato led the charge though and they're 2000+.There are sub - $1500 2011's like the EAA's/Girsan/Tisas', Stealth Arms (one piece frame so not quite a 2011), and the Fusion Firearms XP
>>64789600good catch
>>64789804fucking savage is like one of the only companies making 20 gauge slug guns that aren't retardedly priced semi autos or just basic mossbergs and they are basically savage 110s and they just updated the 110 and the slug gun and for some reason they continue to use box mags even though literally every single review is >I like the gun, it works great, but the mag causes a jam literally every time and doesn't work at all so I just single load it and use it as a single shot. and they literally just discontinued the older version and put out a newer one and are still using mags instead of a tube. it's fucking 2+1 too so idk why they couldn't have fit a 2 round tube in the stock or under the forend even if you had to load it through the action like a lebel
>>64790707He looks like the human version of the gun he's making. Him & Ian probably fucked after that. Did anyone hear about what happened at Luxor on the last day? 100+ dudes jammed in a hotel suite having some type of "party" and when they got kicked out Ian was reportedly seen running down the hall fully nude covered in vaseline, screaming something about mud in the ejection port.
>>64789818>t. no gunzbullpups are ass. also the reagan shot footage is kind of funny because the secret service guy tries and fails to extend the uzi stock like 5 times
>>64789829cool
>>64790714>>64790731When you reach the end of the line you realize there's no point in trying to standardize the civilian market and hold onto these old arcane cold war guns, including ARs. Recently made guns are so much more user friendly and they should all be bullpups, or at least have much more on the market. It's a more space efficient setup. You're a notraining who's never cleared a room or operated out of a car. Why don't you use a 5 foot long musket? Why don't you daily carry a rifle? Their size is too big to be practical. Yes even shaving off 8-10" of length by bullpupping extremely fucking useful.
>>64790291>No one was making spring loaded collapsible or swing frames around a glonk or sig, and so they just swooped in. Now everyone and their mother suddenly remembers that spring loaded stocks have been around since the 70s but then died out because Fudds sporterized everything to shit.it's also because ARs don't fold
>>64790729>when they got kicked out Ian was reportedly seen running down the hall fully nude covered in vaseline, screaming something about mud in the ejection port.lmao>>64790733>>64790739bullpups are gay and retarded, no gunz yuro
>>64790751If they made a suitcase long enough for the AR to fit it could work. It attaches to the optic rail on top, so any gun that can fit in the case can work, and different size case shells can work. The button just drops the case, the apparatus on top could actually be a lot less bulky it seems. Cool concept, they should make different size case shells to go with the release apparatus though for different guns.
>>64790739>>64790760Bullpups are best when they're PCC sized, ie a 13" .300blk bullpup like the WLVRN Micron is tits.The prevalence of new FRT's is making the advantages of bullpups more pronounced and underscoring disadvantages like trigger pull, like with the AUG and how controllable it is at spitting lead in FRT mode despite clear downsides over a normwl AR without modification.
>>64790739What are we talking about in reference to cold war guns? FAL's and M14's?A G3 with a rail is going to perform as well as many AR10's in the accuracy department
>>64790300It's a Benelli M3 clone in SPAS clothing, I assure you it's MILES ahead of the SPAS, and even if they do it Doogie QC like they did the SDS Duo-SYS M3 clone, you can just put in Benelli parts and break out the flitz
>>64790776bullpups are trash and only no gunz shill them
>>64790319Just save your grenades and keep the barrels safe until he gets near them. But yeah the original is so much better it makes me sad since re2 remake was so good
>>64790812I would love to give you a lesson on building clearing and within 5 minutes kf doing it with a longgun you're gonna wish it were significantly shorter. The issue with retards like you is you don't have any real training or experience. There are very great advantages to a bullpup. Now most SWAT or SF retards will just grab an AR with a 10" barrel, because they're not autistic enough to realize how much that reduces its performance. That's half the barrel length a 5.56 needs to have adequate fragmentation. So they cucked themselves and are basically shooting a .22>>64790783You picked a bad example because G3 aftermarket parts are extremely expensive due to HK tax. A good claw mount is like $500 and sits too high. Only one G3/HK91 exists that has an optic rail standard, the PTR91 GIR, which I'll agree is g2g. But they also don't have any mlok or rails standard, so you have to spend another $100-200+ on that and there's maybe 2 good options that are always out of stock. Your gun needs a sling and a light bare minimum, again that's a training issue. So not having the option to mount a QD socket or rail section is no good. The options for stocks are terrible, and none have a QD socket so you have to run a ghetto sling setup that you can't easily switch between rifles, or screw and glue a screw-in QD mount which again is ghetto and bubba'ing. Or just get a modern rifle that has all the necessary shit already thought out.
>>64790893Sorry for long posts, I hate these fucking captchas. You should also try clearing a building with a fucking long ass G3, one of the longest examples you could've picked. I was the bullpup autist that wanted to bullpup mine, but taking the stock off it was the same length as my fullsize AK because the receiver is so long. Even so, it would be better as a bullpup because you cut off nearly a foot by removing the unnecessary stock. It's just hollow plastic with no mechanical purpose. It only gets in the way when clearing or shooting out of a vehicle.
>>64790681so that when you SBR it and cut the barrel, the bayonet is where its supposed to be
>>64790319>>64790845weren't they going to make RE3 DLC for RE2 and then decided to charge full price because (((capcom))). hell they fucked up the scenario system for RE2make and just tacked it on at the end so it makes no sense unlike the og game>>64790893bullpups are gay and retarded no gunz. no readin that wall of no gunz yuro text
>>64790681Because NFA
>>64790905Why not buy the collapsible stock you can use on an SA/FAL instead? It actually does the job. Issue might be finding one? Maybe not, haven't looked.
>>64790999I had a collapsible stock on mine and it was extremely fucking heavy and uncomfortable to shoulder. The bars that extend out are solid steel bars and the butt is solid steel covered in the hardest rubber known to man, or some type of plastic. So made ir uncomfortable to shoulder/shoot and made the gun tip rearward drastically. As in you let go of the front you go muzzle up, and that's saying something considering it's not a light gun at all. The stock was so heavy it still tipped an all steel rifle with long medium profile barrel backward. It's not a realistic option at all, again arcane bullshit that isn't user friendly. All my old guns are just backup guns, that's one thing they have going is reliability.
>>64791020Damn, that's crazy. I've never heard anyone make that complaint. Sometimes people talk about it wobbling all over, but not that.
>>64786209a single flipped primer is going to jam that gun harder than my dick in a garand's action
>>64790893You have to basically special order a G3 clone without a welded rail mounted now, try again. The GI-R and the Century new CETME both have welded rails.PTR only makes small batches of non-railed GI's anymore.There are now several inline stock options, bitching about QD is meaningless, HK's were designed around HK clips, snaps and HK loop hardware - which is still relevant and vastly superior to anything from its era or before.
>>64791181You haven't even taken the QD pill, don't talk to me. You know nothing of comfy setups. I bet your sling isn't even adjustable, bahaha hahahaha!
>>64791068He's got noodle arms, the G3 collapsible is certifiably METAL as fuck, you either shoulder it right or it punishes you for your insolence
>>64791249You trying to tell me you can't figure out how to run a padded adjustable 2 point with HK clips instead of QD?QD rusts and buttons sieze
>>64788886>https://files.catbox.moe/ko3499.mp4TYFYS
>>64791387>clips>shackle noises whenever you move>don't rotate (protip get the ones that only rotate 180° so they don't overspin and bunch up)>can't switch my sling to a different gun in 2 seconds, have to buy multiple different $40 adjustable slings for each gunDumb grandpa shit, no thanks. Have fun loading your cap and ball musket with a fixed sling.
>>64782851Holy fuck, Spas12 clones are on the table. Probably turkshit so I'll get to larp as Jurassic Park guy for 5 minutes before it bricks.https://youtu.be/TZp0EbD_2jE
>>64791633>>can't switch my sling to a different gun in 2 secondswhy?
>>64791769So I don't have to buy 10 high quality slings for my 10 guns, I can switch the same sling I'm used to and that does what I want it to do (adjust length based on clothing/armor thickness). Good ones cost a bit so slinging every gun isn't economical. For loaner guns I get the sling I like in every color. I have 3 $40 slings and 6 of those fucking $20 Magpul QDs, though a few were stolen. Comfy setups cost a lot, n00b.
>>64791823sounds like you are just poor. I have slings for all my gunz, poorfaggot
>>64791847Yeah you can put a shitty $5 CLANKITY CLANK LUL WHAT IS AN ADJUSTMENT I CHOKE U sling on every gun. I'm talking about comfy modern arsenals here not janky grandpa guns that you have to bubba a solution for.
>>64791872I have the metal vtac slings, poorfaggot
>>64789358>lol, what are you supposed to do with the gun when you run out of ammo in the field?You've misread that part anon:>The BrashZero is fed from detachable sealed magazines. When the magazine is inserted into the gun, the seal breaks, allowing the action to feed. Once the magazine is removed from the gun (whether because it’s empty or not), it can not be reinserted. The magazines are not designed to be refilled with the ammo components in the field, but it can be done at an armorer's level.It's not saying you can't put fresh mags in the gun, it's saying that you can't put one in, use it until it's 50% full, take it out and then put it back in again, and that empty ones can't be refilled in the field. Whether this is actually an issue or not depends on the specifics frankly, soldiers aren't normally carrying around a ton of loose ammo and a few mags and then refilling them in the field anyway, they're filling before patrol or whatever.This one claims that eliminating all the weight of brass means you can get 450 shots for the weight of 210 cased rounds. That's a significant enough savings that it might well be worth some militaries just leaning a bit more heavily on their logistics chains. And there are significant savings to be had as well (and supplier flexibility) if you don't have to give a shit about cartridge production vs just buying components.Obviously how well it actually WORKS is the important bit but the approach doesn't strike me as inherently worthless. It's interesting research anyway.
>>64790397>herpaderp
>>64788763midgets?
>>64790729James, is that you?
>>64782851Make new thread for people who worked all week.
>>64791751>Holy fuck, Spas12 clones are on the tableits been teased for like 3 years now? I'll believe it when I actually see it in stock.
Railed and optics cut derringers from bond arms V cool
>>64788085honestly these seem so cool a gimmick but a cool onekinda reminds me of a welrod pistol but as a deringeri see the square one is a wipe supressor?
>>64792570alright i guess
>>64793153Is it? I can't make out the name on my phone.
>>64790397bait used to be believable
>>64793232new >>64793587new >>64793587new >>64793587
>>64793591ignorelast is actually >>64792167
>>64790276I was actually going to get an AK last year but paying like $1200 for an "alright" one didn't seem very worth it to me. I got one of those CA-3 G3 rifles a few months ago and I like shooting it much more than my AR even if ammo is more expensive. I have a CZ-75 as my carry gun that I was considering selling to get a used USP in .40 or .45, both of which I prefer shooting much more than 9mm. I also might just keep it since the USP's I have been looking at are only like $500 USD.
>>64793782WASRs are like $600-900
>>64794199Don't listen to him, WASR's are dogshit. You end up paying like $100 plus extra for new furniture. The best AK you could buy today that isn't complete biodegradable potmetal is a Zastava, those are the only ones really worth the asking price.
