>>64801478
Fuck their muddahs
Fuck ya
mudda

Functionality aside, can we just agree how unaesthetically pleasing this piece of shit is to the eye?

>>64801494
>unaesthetically pleasing this piece of shit is to the eye?
Like ur mum.

>>64801478
the P320 and it's consequences has been a disaster for the military

Is this that gun the military/police picked up and if you so much as touch it. Like just drawing it from your holster goes off.
Is this the gun that's killing our service men?
>rhetorical

>>64801478
The ND that started a revolution

>>64801563
The ND heard around the world.

>>64801478
Think of it this way, the P320 is such a piece of shit its making hammer fired guns more popular

Should have had a 226 instead... oh wait he couldn't have afforded one!
It's poorfags ruining everything.

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>>64801628
Based and Icebreakerpilled

>>64801478
Thinly-veiled /pol/ thread.

I like my M17

>>64801628
>>64801733
>"Sig Sauer P320 handguns have been subject to numerous reports of unintended discharges (misfires) while holstered or during handling, with over 100 lawsuits alleging the firearm can fire without a trigger pull. The issues are largely tied to a,000s-of-an-inch, movement of the sear, which can occur during movement or holstering. While Sig Sauer offers a voluntary upgrade program, some users claim the issues persist. "

We have to realize his death is simply an accident.

>>64801744
meds

It was a ND because the funstore employee realized he was talking to a libtard and found an easy way to dump a $1k pistol that'll never sell otherwise lmao

>>64801494
i am very fond of its shape

>>64801744
Fuck off /pol/ this is why /tv/ and /co/ laughs at you.

>>64801478
I have an M18. I drop tested it with snap caps in the chamber, and I think once it triggered; haven't been able to reproduce that though.

I wanted to carry it, but I think that's probably not the best idea now.

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>>64803550
>and I think once it triggered

P320s remind me of all the .40 cal pistols they dropped on all of the noguns 20 years ago

>>64801744
nords

>>64801628
>oh wait he couldn't have afforded one!
The p320 he had cost 2.1k if you include the optic.

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>>64803764
I don't think he got it new. Probably some noguns who got the first option that appealed to him without thinking about it twice.

>>64801478
Just tried one for the first time last week. The trigger is alright I guess and definitely better than the stock Glock which is not a very high bar, but the gun is noticeably heavier than his polymer striker fired competitors for no real reason, and definitely not cheaper, which makes you ask why it got choosed by the army instead of these other pistols. I'd definitely get a P10, a VP9, or even a Glock over a P320.

>>64803764
Which is my point, you could have a Just as Good™ equivalent for 30-50% less.

>>64803800
he worked for the VA
he probably spoke to veterans who said it was their side arm and it was good so he decided to buy it
not that those veterans were correct, they are after all typically just 18 y/o's who have never owned a handgun

>>64801563
kek

>>64801563
>Nooooooo not the hecking burritos!!!!!
>Grab tacticool Sig P320 to go to a protest
>get arrested because it discharged itself
>Nothing changes
Trust the plan

>>64801478
What I don't get is why are retards still buying it?

>>64801744
and not the 5 billion yuro random bullshit procurement threads clogging up the catalogue?

>>64801494
>can we just agree how unaesthetically pleasing this piece of shit is to the eye
Main problem since it arrived.
Looks like an actual turd

There's no reason to get a 320 when the 365 XMacro exists

>>64804375
>>64801603
Also each of these

>>64804375
Massive price drop recently as everyone dumps their P320s because they are unsafe garbage. Genuinely can't believe it was a popular gun at any point though, it's very ugly and obviously a crudely repurposed hammer fire gun. It's funny, SIG seems to have quietly discontinued alot of their P320 line and started pushing the P365 instead, something they probably should have done years ago but they lucked out on scamming the US military for the 320
>>64804416
There's no reason to buy a SIG product

>>64804448
>Genuinely can't believe it was a popular gun at any point though
I think a lot of it was just boomer fudds and LEOs FOMOing when it came out. Then the NDs started happening and everyone realized what a piece of shit it was.

>>64804448
>There's no reason to buy a SIG product
Only ever purchase pre-2009 manufacture

(whatever nuSIG even is, is not remotely related to what was manufactured by Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft)

>>64804448
>they lucked out on scamming the US military for the 320
and THIS ×10,000

>>64804487
The public was also scammed, because they thought military adoption meant things like "tested, proven, high quality". Not many people followed the selection process. They would have realized the army skipped half the trails because glock wasn't willing to lower their bid as much as sig.

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>>64804521
What's stupefying is that the also-adopted M7 is an even bigger debacle

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>>64804416
why get a sig at all? they suck like fuck

>>64801744
This

>>64804448
>There's no reason to buy a SIG product
Used older guns is a reason and you are stupid not to acknowledge that.

>>64804547
Yeah yeah buy a 226 for the old school larperator meme and jeet it immediately when you need to replace anything because the only replacement parts available are MIMdia

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i liked my gen 1 p320, bought it to put in a raider but it was nice to shoot in pistol form.

>>64804375
They think army gun = good. Pretti was a veteran, I know a ton of veterans with Sig 320s. It seems that if a vet doesn’t make Beretta 92 their whole personality, they’re likely to end up with a 320.

>>64804688
>because the only replacement parts available are MIMdia

stop pretending you even know why you hate MIM parts. you probably still praise ruger for their 'based casting'

>>64804734
>DO NOT BE IS DISRESPECTING INDIAN CASTING SAAR!
ya ok bro, still not gonna buy a SIG shit product btw

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>>64804375
Historically most people buy whatever the military uses. Wildly available guns, parts are wildly available, ammo should be cheap because mass production for the military.

If the military is using a POS that shoots your penis off if you start jigglin around too much then everybody is going to buy the POS that comes with free trans surgery.

>>64804448
Only reason to buy a 320/365 is that the aftermarket blows Glocks out of the water now. I would never carry a 320 but the 365s seem good especially the classic size for carry.

>it is now in internet right-wingers best interest to double down on the sig nd FUD because they know ICE negligently killed someone and saying 'XAXAXAXA I HOPE THEY KILL MORE!' doesn't fly outside of 4chan

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>>64804809
Nah he was reaching for an object while fighting feds he was a dead man for doing that. The shots don't really matter now that we see him grabbing for an object before he is shot.

>>64804813
If his shitty gun didn't go off he'd just be arrested. That first shot ringing off and causing the feds to jump away a bit sealed that retard's fate.

It's like any other bodycam footage of idiots resisting arrest getting ventilated but he's a comrade for the glorious free people's democratic republic of million dollar extreme: world peace so it now magically becomes Trayvon Martin 2.0.

In their Antifa anti-ICE training manuals they have sections dedicated to de-arresting. If you're under arrest, have been deemed a threat, and something happens that causes the cops to jump away, DO NOT JUMP BACK UP LIKE A SPRING CHICKEN.

>>64804853
lol stop pretending you believe the gun went off on its own. the retard 1-month-of-training ICE agent fat fingered the trigger with his big-ass gloves. actual NDs are still way more common than p320 malfunction NDs and you only want to believe it was the gun's fault because you KNOW ICE fucked up.

>>64804858
If ICE ND'd that guys gun that still doesn't mean you get to reach for another object after being disarmed by law enforcement and continue to fight them. That's how you get killed by nerve rattled feds. If they just killed him while he was complying that would be one thing, he's shaking them off and grabs an object in his right hand before he gets shot. Dumb move on his part.

>>64804858
Doesn't matter. The guy's fate was sealed the second he got in the first cops face while carrying a gun. Your odds of not getting shot in a situation like that are vanishingly small.

>>64804864
>nerve rattled

you mean under trained and given full immunity by their boss and president?

>>64804875
Actually outside of hardened SWAT teams any cops going to get spooked when shots go off. They're not soldiers. You can cope and seethe about it all you want, but the solution isn't antagonizing them if you think they're undertrained and able to kill you and get away with it.

>>64804877
Hell, most soldiers are going to get spooked when shots go off. Especially if said shots are right behind them. You can definitely tell the people who have never been in anything close to a high-stress situation by how they invoke "training" like it's some kind of magic that makes people behave perfectly in any situation.

>>64804895
And no one mentions that the training for gun shots going off is guns out and lighting up the source if its not a friendly.

>>64804898
This is also true.

>>64804898
>the training for gun shots going off is guns out and lighting up the source if its not a friendly.

wat

>>64804909
What's so hard to understand? This isn't Robocop, cops will shoot first ask questions later if they feel threatened.

>>64804858
don't get in fights with police retard. if they mistreat you you can sue them. you don't get to escalate to the point where they're compelled to respond and then cry. you're counting on normal people not being able to put it so plainly but you have no case.

>>64801478
It's insane that he carried a P320 without an external safety.

>>64804797
COMMENCE THE JIGGLING

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>>64804864
>That's how you get killed by nerve rattled feds.
Yeah I get that, but I think the context you're missing is these nerve rattled feds are idiots who have no business acting like Blackwater in Minneapolis in the first place. There's a video of one of them (who looked like he got hired out of a prison gang) bleeding in front of a hotel last night while aiming a shotgun at a crowd of reporters and being like "WHERE'S THE LOCAL PD!?!?!?!" with obvious fear in his voice. Because even the cops have had enough of this shit. That combination of emittting aggression, trying to look like an ultra-badass, and also being a giant pussy is only going to make people want to fuck with you even more. They're acting like they're in Iraq and doing COIN and coming up with OPLANs while just pissing off normies and forgetting the most important thing is to build/maintain support among the local population, which they are not doing.

And if anyone is going to say they do have business being there because of illegal immigration, that's not really the case either (in reality), because if that was their job then they'd be doing this in Texas or Florida. But that would piss off Republican agribusiness.

>>64804877
>Actually outside of hardened SWAT teams any cops going to get spooked when shots go off. They're not soldiers.
>>64804895
>Hell, most soldiers are going to get spooked when shots go off.
Soldiers are worse at this than cops. Don't believe this propaganda about the common soldier being Rainbow Six. Lmao. They're a bunch of caffeinated retards who are trained to blow shit up in exchange for a down payment on a Ford Mustang with a 28% interest rate. The Minneapolis P.D. chief was saying they had disarmed hundreds of people last year during arrests with no incidents.

>>64805099
Ultimately if the Minneapolis PD could tard wrangle the shitlib agitators this wouldn't happen. Democrat politicians willingly pulled the cops back so the agitators would be exposed to feds. Meanwhile in a bunch of cities across the US they only need a handful of ICE agents because the police actually cooperate and hand over these people at the jail instead of letting them loose.

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it's over

>>64805121
>Trump shitting on Sig
Based, he's an HK guy IIRC

>>64805108
If ICE wants local police support, they can get warrants and coordinate with local police. But ICE refuses to follow the law or coordinate with local police, and they can’t have it both ways. The Minneapolis PD and the Minnesota National Guard are providing crowd control at known protest locations, but when ICE decides to go fuck up these neighborhoods, the first the police hear of it is when the ICEwatch fags with the whistles call 911 and tell them where ICE is.

>>64804853
>now magically becomes Trayvon Martin 2.0.
Maybe. Usually nothing happens unless a nigger dies, but dude is jewish so it may indeed be a lasting shit storm. If it was a regular goy like Renee it would have already blown over

>>64805146
Except Minneapolis police are not cooperating at all and releasing illegals back into the public. This is entirely local politicians being shitty because they had a big fraud case involving immigrants.

>>64805146
>go fuck up these neighborhoods
Poison the well harder bro, they're going in after specific individuals not ransacking neighborhoods going door to door doing searches of houses. There's nothing stopping the local cops from detaining illegals and notifying ICE like most of the country outside of orders from Democrat politicians.

>>64804809
>>64804858
post gun and toilet

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>>64805108
Yeah, I don't think that's incorrect, but that's still a one-sided way of looking at it. Really a good analogy is to the ATF in the 1990s where they think engaging in a big show of force while blasting Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love is necessary to justify their budgets. Like yeah the Branch Davidians shouldn't have resisted but the feds still fucked up. This gets tied up in politics too. They've been sent into Minneapolis in such numbers because it's one of the most Democrat cities there is, not because the amount of badassery they're trying to project is actually efficient at doing the job of deporting people here illegally. It's all about projecting a kind of image that's disassociated from reality. There's a clear divide about this too between normal people who voted for Trump in 2024 vs. those who have sunk their identities into it where they can't offramp anymore even if they know it's theatre.

>>64805146
MN is a sanctuary state. the police don't cooperate with ice because the state has taken the side of illegals over humans

>>64805171
not at all. in the 90s the clinton ATF was specifically trying to illegally murder white gun owners who did nothing wrong at ruby ridge and waco. ice is doing god's work and what the law say by removing evil scumbag invaders

>>64805171
This is entirely a Democrat created problem, if they detained illegals all ICE would be there for is the paperwork and to take an already controlled individual away. Instead the local politicians wanted to be a sanctuary city and release them on top of not working with ICE.

>>64805171
The fact of the matter is if this was about immigration, those large numbers would be in Texas. If this was about fraud, they'd have sent the FBI and trained forensic accountants.

>>64805152
Yet when Cottonwood County wants ICE to come pick up a Venezuelan ChoMo, ICE is “too busy” to come get him. You can’t trust the administration when they say that they are there just for people with hold orders, after all they claimed that they arrested Scotty Thao looking for Lue Moua, but Lue Moua has been in prison since September of 2024 and we know ICE knows because the paterwork to deport him when his sentence is completed (in January 2027) is already filed.

>>64805099
I like how you try to stereotype a federal fucking agency to justify doing whatever you want to them
Spiiler alert it's not working out well for you guys, and it will continue to not work out well, regardless of how many times you call them pussies for wearing plate carriers while trying to arrest known rapists and murderers with a bunch of agitators trying to stop them

>>64805099
Also, youre an uninformed fucking rube becase the largest operation currently IS in Texas, its just not in the news because there isnt friction with the "local" populace

>>64805217
>to deport him when his sentence is completed (in January 2027)
Have you considered he may not be a priority for deportation compared to a dude who was released post conviction? You're such a dipshit it's unreal

>>64804375
They're like 2-300 dollars cheaper than a P365 with similar features. I got an old 365 so don't have any need to get a 320.

>>64804858
>fat fingered the trigger with his big-ass gloves
You can't fat finger the trigger if you have big-ass gloves on since you can't even clear the trigger guard. You have a cerebral deficiency or several.

>>64805272
How the fuck does one even "fat finger" a gun? It's not even close to typing on a phone. That other anon sounds like a noguns if anything

>>64805272
>can't even clear the trigger guard.
How small do you think the trigger guard is on a P320, you fucking retard? Of course any modern 9mm pistol is going to have a trigger guard big enough to fit even a gloved finger in.

>>64805248
Then why the fuck were they looking for him at Scotty Thao's house? ICE was calling Lue Moua a priority deportation worth detaining a US citizen to try and find, but Lue was already in prison!

I’m half convinced that it was an AI hallucination and that they’re using a jeetcoded AI to do all their analysis work, and this is why they can’t stop slamming their dicks in a car door.

>>64805305
Even with small hands and normal-ass gloves it's a real stretch to do so with a Glock 17.

>>64804375
the same reason people think glock was good

>pushing an ICE agent when you are strapped

Yeah that was retarded, though he would have been fine if the gun didnt misfire

>>64805099
Man I so wanna hug that guy cause he looks so adorable

>>64804895
>You can definitely tell the people who have never been in anything close to a high-stress situation by how they invoke "training" like it's some kind of magic that makes people behave perfectly in any situation.
Thankfully judges are usully smart enough to not hold cops up to the standard of Captain America when trying to determine the reasonableness of their actions.

>>64805108
Mineapolice police department is like 600 with people quiting left and right. Glowies already outnumber police by at least 500%

>>64805189
Texas doesn't need the large numbers of ICE agents, the government is cooperating so it takes very few to escort the illegals from jails to ICE holding/deportation facilities.

>>64805450
And notice that the only civilian casualties were retards shooting at ICE facilities and only managed to kill illegals. At any rate, Tampon Tim and the Dems are deliberately stoking the flames and coordinating the 'tards because the scams are being exposed and the deportations are gonna hit hard with redistribution.

>>64805456
ICE don't even qualify as glowies, nothing they do is covert and they have no grounds to hassle citizens. They're no DEA, ATF, CIA, FBI, or IRS.

>>64805487
They inconvenienced brownoid scammers, ergo they're clitorally Hitler.

>>64805487
Shut up glownigger.

>>64804813
>Nah he was reaching for an object
At this point in the video, he had already been shot. Why are you lying?

>>64805183
>specifically trying to illegally murder white gun owners who did nothing wrong at ruby ridge

anon ruby ridge was about commie witch hunts

someone post the nd pasta please
all of them

>>64805189
there are tons of illegals in sanctuary cities/states. in texas the cops turn the illegals over to ICE

>>64805630
Texan here. No they don't. It's too much of a hassle for most PDs so unless the feds are literally right there, most illegals get to go home and miss their court date. The only people hard on immigrants here in Texas are fatasses pretending to be border patrol.

>>64805673
>. No they don't. It's too much of a hassle for most PDs so unless the feds are literally right there, most illegals get to go home and miss their court date.
source?

>>64805605
>1992
>the US government giving a shit about commies after the 70s
>after McCarthy and Bucchanan were assassinated and all Weather Underground members were pardoned and given government jobs

I'd tell you to feel ashamed for lying like this but i'm not sure you can.

>>64805696
https://tracreports.org/phptools/immigration/backlog/
Texas has an absurd backlog of court cases simply pending. There's even more reports on here too that explain why. You really thought anyone was doing anything? Here? In Texas? The state that runs on illegal labor?

>>64801603
>Hammer fired guns
The springfield xde went out of production years ago. What polymer framed, da/sa guns are there left on the market? Px4 is too pricey for the layman. Same with the P07

>>64805720
those are phony asylum cases from border hoppers since texas is on the border and literally every single asylum claim is fraudulent

>>64805731
Not many, but look at the resurgence in popularity of 92s and CZ as well as the recent trend of 2011s outside of comp shooting. Legitimately to me it looks like there's a pushback among enthusiasts that's trickling down to the general population against strikers. The P320 isn't the only mechanism driving this- see also the recent V series debacle and the general pattern of people wanting to copy competition shooters- but it's infamy is so widespread its leaking out of enthusiasts and into mainstream gun discussion

>>64805746
>give source
>dismiss source for baseless nonsense reason
Okay, nigger. Believe the propaganda

.32 revolver controversies
>unable to stop drugged out natives
1911 controversies
>misused and abused by military to point of endangering operator
M9 controveries
>misused by military and cheap parts
P320 controveries
>almost starts civil conflict due to decade long manufacturing defect

>>64805764
Nah, the idiot had shit trigger discipline. It's on him

>>64803813
because they sold it at a loss to the army. uncle sam pays less than 400 bucks a pop before accessories. they make the money back by selling it to the public for twice as much based on that military cachet, and it got their foot in the door with the .mil so they could fleece em on rifles as a "trusted" vendor

>>64805752
There has been a sort of hammer gun revolution since places like Langdon proved that litterally the only issue with da/sa was manufactures artificially putting heavy triggers, and with single action coming as sort of an enthusiast favorite. The problem with striker is that aside from something like the alien, it is a solved platform with only modularity and price being the interesting factors, both of which are facing legal scrutiny. I wouldn't be surprised if a new military gun test comes out and you see some da/SA gun fur to saftey concerns

>>64805767
the p320 malfing on its own is a more entertaining explanation and therefore it is reality. thats how we do things.

>>64805754
you literally posted a bunch of asylum cases. it isn't my fault you are a gay retard

>>64805790
>About Immigration Court Data
>Findings are based upon a detailed analysis of the millions of Immigration Court records covering cases where officials within agencies including Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE), and the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) have filed an action seeking a ruling by an Immigration Judge. Most of these are deportation actions[1] seeking to have a judge issue a removal order allowing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to deport the noncitizen. These actions are generally begun by filing a Notice to Appear (NTA) requiring noncitizens to appear in court and defend themselves against the civil immigration charge(s) contained in the NTA.
Nice try.

>>64805810
yeah those are asylum cases from the border hoppers, tranny
ICE is doing a great job removing those scumbags. dems are trying to keep the scumbags in the country

>>64805821
Asylum cases are asylum cases, deportation cases are deportation cases. As explained, the majority are deportation cases.

>>64805821
They literally explain which entries are cases for Relief (this would be Asylum) and which are Removal in the About the Data link you didn't read. Cases for Relief are in a different listing than the one given nignog. You are making this whole thing up without realizing they actually addressed the shit you're talking about.

>>64805731
FN FNX

>>64805821
>asylum cases
>from border hoppers
Border hoppers don't claim asylum because you only claim it at point of entry. They're two separate things.

>>64805810
>>64805834
Also, even in good ol' boy Texas, the majority of defendants in Deportation cases were Never Detained. How do we know? It's listed that they were never detained in the outcomes data. Even when they WERE eventually deported, the majority of those defendants also were never detained. Texas doesn't do shit.

>>64801494
They need to stop making stuff FDE, looks like molded diarrhea

You all are reading the tea and missing the leaves. Go ask any Software nerd you know about Indian made things. Now remember that the P320 is made in India. The Indian working model is

>Get hired by other country that makes product well
>Make entirely terrible product because India
>Product explodes causing delays and pain for whites
The rest of. you are just finally getting a taste of the India problem TM.

>>64805764
>almost
Give it till Fall when they start making noises about suspending the Midterm.

>>64805838
under obongo and brandon you could hop the border, claim asylum and you would get released into the interior of the country
>>64805831
>>64805834
it's literally the scumbags obongo and brandon let in who claimed asylum and then never went to their court dates, you tranny
we shouldn't even give out asylum either, no one has ever had a legit case

>>64804733
He's too old to have been issued a P320 and I don't know a single veteran who liked their M9 so by that logic I'm surprised he wasn't carrying a 1911

>>64805879
It's incredibly clear you didn't read the data presented to you at all. Don't ask for sources if you aren't going to read them nor accept the data.

>>64805884
He was 37, not 50. Sure, he was probably never issued a M17 or M18, but plenty of the 35-40 year old vets I hang out with (I’m 38) went P320 because of the M17/M18 adoption, and the ones that didn’t either actually cared about guns (small minority) or went with a Beretta 92fs to base their personality around.

>>64805884
It's genuinely a 50/50 coin flip if a vet thinks his issued weapon was a gift from God or a torture device disguised as a gun

>>64805764
M7 controversies
>infantry accuracy close to 0%

>>64805891
I think it was really the top brass that didn't like the M9 because it replaced the 1911 and there was grumbling about 45 and 9mm. Most vets seem to just agree that the ones they got were beat to shit

>>64805890
your fault for being a liar and a retard who can't read

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>>64805919
>raise objections that the data itself addresses and are not relevant
Sorry bud, you're the one who didn't read.

>>64804858
>1-month-of-training ICE
It's astonishing that you fans don't know it was CBP. not ICE.

>>64805720
>You really thought anyone was doing anything? Here? In Texas? The state that runs on illegal labor?
This is the real reason all this ICE shit is a dog and pony show. Our entire economy is built on the back of illegal labor. Actually unfucking it and deporting people for real would cause some rich faggot to suffer a 10% profit loss and that's unconscionable

>>64803764
Some gun stores have stopped accepting 320s because so many people turned them in and they can't sell them. Very reasonable to assume this dude bought it on a steep discount

>>64806106
They did that because they wanted to resale them for fucking retail.

>>64806092
They're both recently hired goons for DHS. These are not pro agents

>>64806095
>illegals
>people
pick one
>>64805927
nah, you are gay and retarded and wrong

>>64806329
Underage. You hate to see it.

>>64801563
>>64801577
>>64803843
Politics aside, I really hope this is what happened. It would be so fucking funny..

>>64805731
Is the p99 still a thing?

>>64804858
ICE officer had a 1911. Tell me how you can shoot 10 rounds from a 1911.

I’ll wait.

>>64806365
Nope, discontinued

>>64806367
anon they make 9mm 1911s, they even make them with double-stack mags.

>>64806335
nope

>>64806327
Prove it.

>>64804521
Growing up is realizing “military grade” means it was sold by the cheapest bidder. Guns, clothing, etc are usually miles better on the civilian side. I can get a winter jacket that’s tough as nails and thin as mithril but keeps the winter cold out. Can’t say that about military jackets

>>64804808
>sig aftermarket
> blows Glock out of the water

Absolutely absurd take. Flex raider owner detected

>>64805865
The scar made a noble sacrifice and now matching FDE on other guns looks okay by comparison.

>>64805099
Youre an actual fucking retard. Red states have ongoing ice operations much larger than Minnesota. The difference is those states don’t have a corrupt fucking governor running Somali scams, refusing to cooperate with federal agencies, and gassing up his electorate with seditious rhetoric.

>>64804858
can't stand fucking nonsense posts like this. retard thought he was a civil rights warrior as he interfered with armed federal agents while carrying and then decided to fight with them. he wouldnt have died if he didn't do something that idiotic. Also if the gun truly did go off on its own then meme magick is legitimately real

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What's his gun?

>>64806578
There are 22000 ice agents, give or take. They had 3000 in Minnesota and another 1200 extra CBP agents (meaning beyond what is normally stationed here to work the ports and airport and the Canadian border crossings).

Btw, Constitutional Crisis Barbie Noem and Bovino with the CBP have been ordered to leave Minnesota and they’re getting replaced by Border Tzar Bowman, and the CBP agents Bovino brought with him are headed home too. ICE isn’t gone, but it looks like deescalation is on the menu for the fed boys.

>>64805605
>anon ruby ridge was about commie witch hunts
My guy Randy Weaver was living off-grid and some of the people he hung out with were neo nazis, the ATF undercover agents asked him to saw off shotguns and then revealed they were ATF to pressure Weaver to join a neo-nazi militia and act as informant.
The 90s wasn't about commie hunting, the state security apparatus was now concerned with domestic terrorism and the militia movement.

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>>64806367
Is this a joke?

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>>64806643
None of this refuted what I said

>>64806640
A plane ticket home apparently. Him and Noem are off the team and the extra CBP agents are leaving with him, Bowman is now in charge.

>>64801478
SIG really could just issue a recall and apology and completely save face and reputation, but they're too wrapped up in ego and will continue hemorrhaging good will and losing/settling lawsuits..

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>>64805121
>a dangerous and unpredictable gun
Fucking kek, my sides.

Here, I’ll add something to the discussion. Brother Hans made a comic about the p320 last year. I posted this in the GC with the boys just now.

>>64804809
>you're a tranny faggot and kamala lost lol

>>64806592
dont waste your time, these faggot retards are mentally ill.

>>64806592
I don’t know what the anti ICE protestors are hallucinating in their minds. If I had to guess, I’d say that since they don’t know things, they think their heart being in the right place, or some shit about “being on the right side of history” will force ice to retreat. They really shouldn’t be out there thugging it out with ICE if they can’t force a win,

I love how you guy's couldn't character assassinate this guy to justify his murder so you just flat out lie about what happened even though we have video from 5 different cameras that don't support any of the bullshit you've been spewing

>>64807735
We don't need to character assassinate him. He's an anti-American retard, then communist, now dead.

>>64807766
just say jew and we'll try to forget you support zion don

>>64806643
>Bovino
Bovino didn't just get told to take his shine box and go home, he got demoted. He's no longer the CBP commander.

Noem appears to be about to lose her job altogether.

>>64807810
No they just transferred him to another state lol

>>64805708
Based knower. Would you say an ideology won its war if after the fighting was over, its imprisoned members got, professorships, gov pensions, and book deals?
>I didn't think Uncle Yarv posted here!

>>64808094
>Bovino has been removed from his postion as Border Patrol Commander and Large and is returning to his former job in El Centro, California where he is expected to retire soon.
Nope. Trump is furious about Bovino and Noem's bullshit campaign about Pretti, and how it's sticking to him.
Trump likes loyalty, but he doesn't have any himself. If your mess ends up on his shoes, he doesn't backstop you, he sends you packing.

>>64808422
>Commander and Large
Commander At Large, rather.

>>64808424
he's a big guy

>>64808428
>>64808428
>>64808428
>>64808428
Miller's 'Domestic Terrorist" and "Assassin" claims are going to cost him his position as well. Trump had Leavitt distance him from Miller's remarks as well.

>>64804813
the thing in his hand is his phone, he had already been disarmed.

>>64808433
if i fired you from your position would you die?

>>64808439
It would be very painful

Trump blaming the SIG even if Jabba the CBP Agent fat fingered it is smarter than actually defending the shooting. Trump could say, it's a very bad gun, it was Biden's gun, or Obama, he made the military use it... now everyone wants one!!! But it has issues! It just goes off. Our BRAVE soldiers have had many issues but we're getting them fixed thanks to ME your favorite president.

I heard some boomer say Pretti deserved it because he didn't have his safety turned on. Yeah.

Normal and so on also don't want to say anything outright false, because CBP is going to get sued. But they don't want to say those agents killed the guy because they're incompetent, so she said, he had a gun. AT A PROTEST. No lies technically but like what the fuck are these retards doing.

>>64808422
>>64808519
Look the white house is using the thread to strategize their next movie

>>64808525
Fuck 10% credit card interest, Big tittie goth GFs for all?

>>64808549
You forgot to mention he was the one that removed the cap on cc interest rates in the first place, retarded shill bitch
Why don't you and your gaggle of retarded faggots kill yourselves to raise the global percentage of white people, the increase in IQ would be a godsend
Spare us the retardation of your moronic jewish machinations and just send israel another 10 billion dollars like we all know you're going to do

>>64808586
>You forgot to mention he was the one that removed the cap on cc interest rates in the first place, retarded shill bitch
What cap? He didn't eliminate a cap on credit card interest, there's never been a federal one, except for the Military Lending Act which doesn't apply to most Americans and caps interest you can charge a soldier to 36%. My first credit card in 2007 was 28%
Don't use it like extra or emergency money and end up carrying a balance, use it as an insulator between your bank account and your spending to protect you from fraud and build a credit score.

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>the p320 causes a civil war and the end of the united states
shitposting aside, MAN thats grim optics for sig, holy fuckin shit. before this, malfunctioning negligent discharging of sig guns was just a thing known in gun communities. now its fucking literally national fucking news

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>>64804448
>(((lucked out)))

>>64808438
No one knows its a phone when its hidden under your jacket. Its not like he went "NO DONT SHOOT ITS NOT A SECOND GUN ITS MY PHONE". In a split second grabbing for another object after you're a known armed suspect will end in you getting shot.

>>64807773
Uh huh and you're here malding over a dead communist jew while crying about Zion don.

>>64808728
I'm sure you'll have the wherewithal to not spook the gravy seals after your concussion

>>64808736
Can I get this in English Rajesh?

>>64807766
>>64808729
why does everyone call him a communist?

>>64808738
Normal people don't just pick up a gun one day and harass feds in suicidal ways. That's a radicalized individual.

>>64808739
>pick up a gun one day

what makes you think he doesn't carry every day?

>>64807364
The time has long since passed for that. They should have done that with the "it ends today" post they did but ironically that restoked the flames of the whole controversy to begin with which brought alot of people's attention to this as the problem got worse and worse

>>64808743
For one he carried a 320

>>64808699
It had already become sorta a normie thing before, now we have the president of the United States talking about it which is a crazy next step in escalation. I didn't think a line has really been drawn yet between the fact that the gun is dangerous and also the main sidearm of the US military. Once that becomes a thing it's truly over

>>64808737
That is English you middle school dropout
>>64808739
>EDC except guns I don't like in places I don't like
Sounding a little liberal there

>>64808743
NTA. It takes a deliberate decision to leave the house with the intent of scuffling with and harassing ICE agents, and to decide to wear your gun that day. Leftists are just insane. like nigger-tier retarded. Did he think he was gonna win a gunfight against a much better armed, organized adversary outnumbered >10:1? Draw on a drawn gun, while on the ground, and win?

>>64808752
You can't articulate and you're noguns.

>>64808751
If moist critical couldn't convince the normies, Trump won't.

>>64808738
The Minnesota General Strike, which was the day before Alex Pretti was out protesting and was killed, last Friday, had marches lead by the fringe left, since the Democrats and Republicans are establishment cowards. So if you've been watching the ICE OUT protests, especially last Friday, you were seeing signs from the Green Party of Minnesota, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, the Our Revolution Minnesota Party, and Democratic Socialists of America.

I haven't seen any evidence that Pretti was involved in that, and I know a few dozen people who aren't involved with any of those parties who have been doing things like blowing whistles when they see suspected feds (windshield tint plus out of state plates is the general shibboleth), but it's entirely possible he was. It's not like it matters. Killing him wasn't just wrong because it was unjust, it was wrong because it was stupid.

>>64808755
>Have a disagreement with the government
>Disarm yourself and be polite and unaggressive
Call it what you want, nigger, this is not what the founders envisioned

>>64808751
AND one of the 5 handguns approved for carry by ICE/DHS themselves lmao

>>64808755
You don't carry. I forget my wallet more often than I forget my gun. I've had to call friends who live close to the airport because I'm driving to leave on a flight and realize that I'm strapped belatedly. It's easy to adjust to this behavior.

>>64808756
Oh, I see, you don't know what wherewithal means. Sorry, that's advanced vocabulary

>>64808760
I'm somewhat disappointed at the lack of tar and feathers, honestly. Hard to say you're just there to observe and document if you're doing that shit though. Keeping tar warm in a minnesota winter demonstrates significant premeditation.

>>64808760
Then go fight feds while armed and get shot as well, the feds actually have a right to defend themselves believe it or not and they have minimal guidelines if they feel threatened.
>>64808768
Using big word but having a mush mouthed sentence structure doesn't make you smart bub. Make your sentences coherent.

>>64808769
>Hurrr go tar and feather armed federal agents
That's how you and 5 of your buddies end up dead the fuck is this main character syndrome nonsense.

>>64808773
Are you drunk? That is an extremely simple sentence. I was memeing before, but did you even finish 3rd grade?

>Noguns redditors crying about how gun owners are treated more harshly by law enforcement
Where have you fags been for 10+ years? This is common knowledge and you voted for this stance.

>>64808778
The fact that you're squirming away from your point rather than reiterate it speaks volumes to your motive here. Go on and piss and moan for another 4-5 off topic posts I guess.

>>64808738
the beard

>>64808773
>they have minimal guidelines if they feel threatened.
Use of lethal force by feds is usually very scrutinized and highly regulated. It's beat cops that get the lenient "felt threatened" stuff. Pretty sure a lot of PDs are also having to rewrite their Force policies to be more tight due to wrongful death suits piling up but I ain't gonna go round up articles to prove that

>>64808760
I forgot how the Founding Fathers chimped out and fought the British because the British wanted to send illegal immigrants back thanks for reminding me. It wasn't taxation, which Democrats are even in more favor of than Republicans, it was about protecting our illegal immigrant population.

>>64808783
I made my point and then you were retarded. Since you never actually mentioned my point I assumed that you were either too stupid to understand it or you didn't have a good rebuttal.

>>64808791
Something tells me your point was very childish akin to "I hope you get shot by cops", I'd be embarrassed too if I was caught with just a seethe reply.

>>64801744
This. Chuds mad.

>>64808789
They chimped out for being actually penalized for tax evasion. Secondly, the colonies didn't really have a concept of legal or illegal immigration at the time, but part of what the British wanted to do was capture illegal traders (since this is how they were avoiding taxes). Of course, the colonies relied on these guys and avoiding paying taxes to make the economy work.

>>64808793
Too stupid. Got it.

>>64808797
Except in this case the illegals are using tax dollars to benefit themselves and these wannabe founding fathers are defending the excessive taxation and the illegal immigrants scamming taxdollars.

>>64808800
Yes you are.

>>64801494
the frame module of the regular P320/M17/M18 is actually more revolting than the one in OP's pic.
>>64808779
Most voters do not exercise thinking beyond first order cause and effect, with retard redditors you mentioned being completely incapable of that. Mental defectives with debilitating cognitive disabilities (possibly up to 55% of women and 30+% of men in Gen Z) should never be enfranchised, and ideally only people with actual stake in the system like adult net taxpayers (excluding retirees and the physically disabled) should be allowed to vote.

>>64806556
>winter jacket that’s tough as nails and thin as mithril but keeps the winter cold out.
Sauce?

>>64808802
The excessive taxation being nonzero. Like, the Brits knew the colonies weren't paying their taxes for a long time and yet were still allowed to do open trade with the British market. They decided to actually enforce the law due to a recent war along with what was honestly a paltry tax on a luxury good. Now listen, I'm an American and I love my country. But the American revolution was not some noble endeavor, they just didn't want to lose their profits.

>>64808807
I hear this argument all the time and you're just parroting youtubers, which is its own special brand of pathetic. If there is any test for a citizen to vote it should be that they can fill out a form where they correctly spell the names of the candidates and correctly answer 3 questions about their platform to prove they actually know who they are voting for and not just the ones with the R or D next to their name.

>>64808814
What I'm saying is that the redditors talking about the founding fathers are using out of context references when the Founding Fathers weren't altruists trying to protect minorities from getting deported.

>>64808819
The Founding Fathers were agitators and shitkickers, is my point. Even when they were completely in the wrong by any level of common sense, their attitude was to fucking fight about it. That's what irks me about the modern right-leaning gun owner. No balls behind those bullets

>>64808827
So are you for or against some people with zero respect for law enforcement getting shot?

>>64808829
I'm for citizens being lawfully armed even when they're demonstrating against the government. I'm against giving the government more power by letting them kill a lawful citizen for possessing his legal firearm while demonstrating. We should all be able to be armed, no matter what we're doing and, frankly, saying you won't do it because you're scared makes you a pussy

>>64808834
? He obviously was not shot "for possessing his legal firearm"

And I am for shooting of people who pull their phone out to record in public

>>64808839
Then you're a faggot, sorry. Hope the pendulum never swings back on you, not that you'll have the self awareness to see what's happening

>>64808841
Do you support illegal immigration or no?

>>64808818
>you're just parroting youtubers, which is its own special brand of pathetic.
Projection, retard. Try proposing something to limit universal suffrage that could feasibly be sold to and reasoned with voters, instead of your intentionally impractical reddit edgelord-tier power fantasy.

>>64808839
no you just like being entertained.

>>64808849
>Try proposing something to limit universal suffrage that could feasibly be sold to and reasoned with voters
You first, lol, no one is going to change the law to only rich people can vote. Ds won't support it because they need uninformed voters to get elected and Rs won't support it because they know it would make them look like double evil vampires.

>>64808848
Ooh, you're a Russian bot. Nice try comrade. Post gun and social security card

>>64808807
>Most voters do not exercise thinking beyond first order cause and effect,
That's actually pretty wise. Because most politicians have hidden agendas for every policy they advance. They only thing a voter can rely on is their immediate perception of whether a government action harms them or not.

>>64808873
this desu. theres no consequence for going back on campaign promises so every candidate lies. trump RAN on releasing the epstien files and now he pretends they dont exist.

>>64808873
My axiom is never trust politicians, even if they say and do everything you want them to never, ever, trust a politician. Same goes for the media.

>>64808879
Yea because thats the nature of a multi-culti universal suffrage democracy, politics has ended, now you just vote according to your tribal loyalties.

>>64804877
Soldiers are worse imo. There isnt a unit I served in or with where if you took three of them to hold me at gunpoint in a similar scenario with them knowing im armed and me flopping on the floor, and fired a gun directly behind them, where I could see myself walking away even 5% of the time.

Which is really my biggest problem with Pretti. He died because he brought a 320 to a protest to wrestle with ICE (who have been shot at before) but it very easily could have gone off and gotten somebody else killed.

This thread has softened my feelings a bit as I did not realize that they are being dumped and are very cheap used- I assumed he knew at least a little bit since he had a gucci model. Used makes it more likely to go off as I suspect that a disproportionate number of trade ins have actually ND'd.

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>>64804809
>anonymous right wingers are all russians

>>64808910
When its 90% more likely some beaner from California being an edgy "libs must die" right winger

>>64808898
You're more likely to have your glock explode, by the numbers. The agents are just making shit up

>>64804809
>XAXAXAXA
I dont understand. "Xaxaxa" is like "zazaza". wtf are you saying?

>>64808891
Its been that way for decades. People act like Trump brought this around when tribalist gerrymandering and wagon circling has been occuring in many areas especially blue cities for decades. The parties used to operate around economic classes, now its ideology since they dont need workers now since theres hordes of boomers and other idiots who will vote for them regardless.

>>64808849
>>64808807
Cool idea, Ivan. I love handing over my fate even more explicitly to out of touch generational money

>>64808935
Glocknade hasnt been a thing in years and it was related to their .40 line. Brazilians can make 9mm plastic guns that dont explode, Glocks are fine.

>>64808939
>especially blue cities
The politics only changed via the southern strategy because conservatives and their policies were deeply unpopular with basically everyone who wasn't old money. And even then it's just a bamboozle, using protestantism and southern culture as a bag over the head of monopolists

>>64808943
Glocknade is still happening and it happens in 9mm too. Take your blinders off, bro, just youtube that shit.

>>64808949
Okay can you show us examples?

>>64808948
I live in the Northeast. Dems are just as dirty and half of the problem. Republicans just happened to not be able to rest on their laurels as much.

>>64805227
>federal fucking agency
Whoah sounds really badass and powerful. They are working on interstate commerce, right?

>>64808959
Yes, theyre handling illegal interstate commerce in the form of illegal immigration.

>>64808952
https://youtu.be/k4eRUK9xzWc
https://youtu.be/NEM8llvlQtQ this guy is constantly blowing up his glocks
https://youtu.be/NVCo3LlzlNE
https://youtu.be/sHquDAi6mcM
https://youtu.be/HaApVoP87fQ

>>64808955
Oh yeah, didn't mean to come off as endorsing anyone. Just a little history lesson.

>>64808970
One of those vids is a boomer showing off his shafty looking handloads.

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>>64808941
>having differing thoughts from me is uh- russian
Non sequitur.

>>64808978
I was pretty sure I pulled all factory ammo vids from my collection, but if I made a mistake on that, it doesn't really matter since I proved my statement. Glocknade isn't dead and it's in 9mm and you're more likely to have it happen than a random discharge. I will accept your concession

>>64808982
Post gun and social security card, Ivan.

>>64808984
I dont see cops blowing up glocks with +P+ Gold Dot its always cheap mystery meat ammo or handloads or its a 10mm/40 cal which I dont think is smart for a glock anyways.

>>64808991
>post evidence
>"Well I haven't seen..."
Checkmate

sure is funny how the militant glock hate really only popped back up after glock fixed the auto key exploit.

>>64808994
I don't even hate glock. I'm being factual about incident rates

>>64804813
He's already been disarmed and shot several times by that image

>>64808996
your incident rate is 5 youtube videos. exploding guns get clicks, its why kentucky ballistics went from being a reputable channel to an 'ow my balls' channel.

>>64809044
>post evidence
>"I don't like what it says so it's wrong
Man, sure is nice to be right

>>64809065
your evidence is low quality and you are arging in bad faith. glocks are some of the most popular handguns on the market. if this was an actual issue there would be more than just one contrarian on /k/ complaining.

>>64808738
Because he's not on their side so they need extra defemation against his character
You need something to suddenly justify murdering someone exercising their first and second amendment rights even if they are a fucking faggot protesting something good, so might as well try and call him a commie tranny.
Partisans killed political nuance, it is gone.

>>64808814
It amazes me how people could formulate such a wild foundation myth in the age of science and modernity
Which is a shame because the actual cause and opinions on the """""revolution"""" are really cool, I particularly like the pro colonial support within Bongland, Pitts tax stamp speech is awesome

>>64809081
>muh political nuance
Do stupid shit. Get rewarded accordingly. Simple as. No further justification required.

>>64809098
>nooo leave the feds alone!!!
>nooo don't use your constitutional rights!!!
You're as much a stupid faggot as the dead baldie

>>64809111
And I have a right to walk across the crosswalk when the light is green. If an eighteen wheeler with broken brakes is plowing through, it's the driver's problem, not mine.

If the feds are doing something good for once (such as harassing illegals), I don't see why I'd go physically interfere with them. It's good for them to get some fresh air and not shoot up a bunch of dogs every once in awhile. They're people, too.

>>64809098
something tells me you didnt have this opinion during the bundy ranch standoffs, kenosha, or that guy who tried to drive through a protest then shot someone

>>64809155
OK, but rightfully wanting illegals gone doesn't mean they had any cause to execute that fag, even if we disagree with his protesting, it's his right to do it and it's his right to he armed, that's not him signing a death warrant
FYI a fucking shitload of those feds are beaners, are you a real nationalist or a civic nationalist?

>>64809157
Good things are good.
Bad things are bad.
Do you understand?

>>64809164
If he wasnt antogonizing feds Id agree but he earned his death by acting a fool.

>>64809171
How exactly did he earn his death?
Getting shoved was escalation by the cop, but whatever
Getting maced was escalation by the cop, but whatever
Getting wrestled to the ground by multiple cops after showing no hostile intent was escalation again
Why exactly did he deserve to die for what he did? The pig didn't even try a single instance to descalate the situation, and then they disarmed and shot him, it's fucking abysmal work by the pigs

>>64809171
why should we normalize the idea that feds are a wild animal that can kill you at any moment?

>>64804949
God I hate bootlicking newfags. You’re the retards that made /k/ shit after 2015

>>64809179
>>64809182
He obstructed traffic and antagonized feds. No ones stopping you from protesting but you dont like that ICE ignores it so now you want to block federal agents and suffer no consequences.

>>64809171
>Defending the feds on /k/
How far we have fallen

>>64809184
Then go fight the cops you think are authoritarian tyrants with immunity bozo.

>>64809195
See
>>64809198
We arent your personal army go be the change you want to see.

>>64809200
>>64809198
What I do doesn't change your bootlicking, but good attempt to try to make it about me instead of your cowardice

>>64809194
Maybe they could detain him, take him to court and present evidence?
Shocking stuff I know? Or maybe instead just push shove some women around, mace them and execute a legal firearm owner for the crime of carrying?

>>64809206
Maybe he could have not fought back then?

>>64809207
>Just surrender to the glowies

>>64809203
Projection from the coward that thinks he is justified now in fighting feds but sits in his room doing nothing like a coward. You wont do shit pussy.

>>64809209
Then die I guess. Either you get your day in court and get the ICE agents in trouble or you die and the ICE agents say they feared for their safety.

>>64809210
Again, it ain't about me. All I did was comment on how you defended the feds and are okay with giving them that control over you. You are the pussy and the topic at hand

>>64809213
>>64809207
>>64809194
>>64809171
These posts glow like the sun

>>64809223
This is some real low effort stochastic terrorism. Youre too pussy to do anything yourself and demand others do it for you.

>>64809207
Nigger he had about 5 cops on top of him, let's face it, they disarmed him, fumbled his dogshit indian gun, NDd and then panicked and ventilated the sorry cunt
Remember when the femoid shot that nigger in the hip while disarming him after he did absolutely nothing wrong? They ain't that far detached

>>64809232
Projection from the guy trying to get retards to fight feds and wont do anything himself because hes a pussy.

>>64809236
Dont fight feds if youre clearly outnumbered then? I dont get it you just think people should be able to have violent tantrums on feds when in custody.

So we all agree that the whole "gun misfiring" thing was bogus and an attempt at controlling the narrative?

>>64809232
Right, because feds are known to infiltrate online communities in order to convince people to behave reasonably and not break the law. Tricky bastards they are.

>>64809244
Resisting arrest (even if its not clear if that was even happening given he is covered by cops pinning him down) is just cause for them to kill you after they disarm you? You are the most pathetic boot licking faggot I've seen all morning.

>>64809184
Shits fucked yo, how did we go from
>shall not be infringed
To this dogshit?

>>64809250
I see through your psyop shit

>>64809249
Is it? The first shot happens basically straight the cop in grey takes it from his holster, then he gets magdumped by the cop in green

>>64809234
>Don't talk about me bending the knee
Not falling for it

>>64808738
/pol/tards do that with everyone, they were even calling him an illegal immigrant and armed felon before his body was cold

>>64809251
Maybe you shouldnt resist arrest? Maybe its a bad idea? Are you mentally a child?

>>64809255
What have you done?

>>64809261
How can you tell he was even resisting, he is literally obscured by 4 cops pinning him the ground
Even if he was, is struggling enough to sign your own death warrant?
Holy shit you are an absolutely pathetic boot licking faggot, kys

>>64809265
>Don't talk about me bending the knee
Not letting you make it about me.

>>64809267
I watched the vid. He was thrashing around and grabbing objects under his jacket after he was known to have at least 1 gun on him.

>>64809261
He's probably a troll, but one can never be sure with leftists. A whole lot of them are actually that stupid.

>>64809269
Inspire me, what have you done? Or are you bending the knee too?

>>64809270
His arms are pinned on the fucking floor you absolute moron, go and watch the videos again
They are free and flailing after he has been shot 2 or 3 times by the agent behind him (after he has been disarmed)
Then as he falls and lies in his blood, another officer unholsters and he is shot another 6 times
They check his body and ask
>duhh where is the gun
Because the incompetent beaners couldn't communicate that they had disarmed him before the first shot ever happened
Kill yourself bootlicking partisan faggot

>>64809278
Seethe harder. Surely we will all start caring then.

>>64809271
>saying feds are incompetent retards is trolling
I hope the ATF riddle your dog

>>64809278
When he was shot reached for and grabbed an object. Sorry little bro no ones falling for it.

>>64809286
He was shot 2 or 3 times before he could even move his arms
He was disarmed before this, the cops were too incompetent to communicate this, although the cop who shoots first has full view of this
He was then shot 6 times
Can we see this object he grabbed?

>>64809291
Yes its clear in the vid

>>64809291
Also theres no limit to carrying handguns. 1 could mean 2.

>>64809296
Screen grab it then, by the time the cops have let go and his arms are free he's already limply trying to stop his fall
His phone is in his right hand the entire interaction

>>64809300
Good thing he couldn't move his arms then until the cops scattered due to the one behind him firing

>>64809307
See
>>64804813

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>>64805227
>a federal fucking agency
Mommy I'm scared

>Spiiler alert it's not working out well for you guys, and it will continue to not work out well
The local guy in charge has literally been axed in a court struggle session and is being sent off to retirement following his humiliating mishandling of the situation. Noem could be next.

>>64809314
So he has no agency?

>>64809317
What object? His gun on his holster was disarmed and removed, and that screenshot does not show the motion of his arm, which is swinging towards the ground as he falls to it, already having being shot in the back 2 or 3 times.
He couldn't move his arms anyway until the cops had stopped restraining him because one decided hearing
>GUN! GUN!
Was just cause to start firing, despite him being restrained
It's terrible policework, defending this shit is insane

even russian police is able to arrest a disarmed and pepper sprayed man, who doesnt resist, 8 vs 1 without killing him. ummm boot tastes so goooooood

>>64809335
So its ziggers false flagging as leftoids trying to get people to shoot feds

>>64809333
And then proceded to thrash around with his hands not visible.

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>uhhh actually the pig is based, that man should have just followed the clear instructions
This is a new low for /k/

>>64809340
I think the leftoids/rich kid professional protesters just want to arson and loot and fight on the streets again and drive there in their daddys car. I doubt they even care what exactly the restlessness is about as long as they get to be there

The only new low here is the people crying about police brutality but doing nothing but cry on 4chan.

>>64809348
Nigger you try getting shot in the back several times and see what happens, I'm convinced you have not watched the videos, the policework is terrible
No communication, the left has no idea what the right is doing
The shooter doesn't know he's been disarmed
The other cops don't know the shooter is doing it
He is restrained fine (besides the fact one of them is just punching him in the face repeatedly despite him being unable to move his arms)
He only gets free after the cops scatter because one of them starts blasting while they're all huddled together
It's terrible and you're a bootlicking faggot

>>64809274
>Constant deflection
You are aren't even American, are you?

>>64809366
So youve done nothing yourself?

>>64809362
I watched him thrash around before he got shot. He was doing activities that could get you shot far before the first shot happened.

>>64809369
Post your gun and valid proof of citizenship. None of this is about me, all of this is about you.

>>64809374
He's in the fucking fetal position with his arms by his head and 4 agents on top of him you stupid nigger
He only flails once he's been shot, you're either baiting, ignorant or both

>>64809383
So youve done nothing but cry on 4chan? Nothing at all?

>>64809385
I saw him thrash and try to get up while reaching to his beltline with feds on him before he got shot nice try its clear in the video.

>>64809386
Confirmed for Turd Worlder. Thanks for playing

>>64809390
So nothing? Yet youre trying to get others to do things?

>>64809389
Post the clip you have of things happening in the order you suggested. No proof, you're a bullshitter

>>64809389
No it isn't because what you are describing does not happen, his arms are only freed after the shout of
>GUN! GUN!
He is already disarmed, and shot 2 or 3 times
Then he thrashes, who'd have thought being beaten, maced and shot would make someone flail about? I hope you're just stupid and not an insidious partisan faggot

>>64809398
>>64809401
Watch the vid hes clearly thrashing around grabbing for things before he gets shot.

>>64809396
NTA but post your gun or your opinions are worthless. That's the etiquette.

>>64809396
Sorry, buddy, I'll be happy to explain myself once you talk about how you're a fed cocksucker. Or better yet, post gun

>>64809405
Post your own vid of things happening in that order. I'm not going off your word.

>>64809405
No he isn't, his arms are constrained near his head, 4 or 5 LEOs are on him at all times, an officer turns, hears the call of "Gun!" is in clear view of Pretti, and the disarming, and fires 3 shots (or 2 if the P320 did go off or ND in the officers hands)
You literally made this shit up