Monthly Challenge for January: https://files.catbox.moe/son1x9.pdf10 yards, one handed, 6 shots, no cheating (we'll know).Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik (embed)Previous >>64802747
When’s the deadline for the shooting challenge?
I own guns and carry every day but I haven't gone shooting in five years
>>64810959>five yearsWhen you get back to it, you'll be shocked at how bad you are. Shooting is very much a perishable skill
>>64810976fairly certain I can still hit center of mass from within 7 yards and I carry 15+1 so missing isn't a big deal
>>64810993Missing is kind of like an ND, it's pretty bad unless you're a cop, in which case, keep spraying, man, qualified impunity and shit.
>>64811007>Missing is kind of like an ND, it's pretty badcan you elaborate on this please
>>64811017The bullet doesn't disappear unlike at the range, where there's a sage backstop, and you are liable for destroying, injuring, or killing, whatever it hits.>>64810959>carry every day but I haven't gone shooting in five yearsNow that I read this thread more carefully, let me bless you, for the very next shot you make, you will hit the target dead on, bullseye. But, for the rest of the magazine you will miss, flinching and adjusting to the feeling of recoil that you forgot. So if you don't go to the range, whatever it is you carry your gun for, settle it with one shot. Good luck!
>>64811032>sage*safe, phone ducking me up again
How much does it cost to turn a .40 USP into a 9mm
>>64811097$214.95 plus tax, shipping, and tip
>>64810587 #They fucking invented the CSX for this exact reason. Tiny hammer fired double stack 9mm the same width as a 1911. With optic cut
>>64811097If it were me I'd just buy a new gun. But, your other options are buying a whole new slide assembly+barrel or trying one of those conversion barrels. The benefit of buying a separate "upper" would be now you could get a slide optic cut or and still have a spare, if you're into that. Here's a link to the conversion barrels, never seen one IRL but some dude on HKPro said they're alright...https://efkfiredragon.com/hk-usp-full-size-9mm-conversion-standard-length/
>>64811097People like you are making me consider getting a 9mm USP to complement my USP 45
>>64811231>>64811253I'm in a quandary fellas. I really want a USP. I always planned to get one in .45 but I already have a 9mm stockpile and I don't want to invest into a FOURTH cartridge because I shoot a lot. My heart wants the .45, my brain and wallet want 9mm
There’s still time to shoot the monthly challenge and get in the collage, anons. :)
>>64811279I'm snowed in right now, can't, I don't really like sharing pictures of my guns online anyway
>>64811272Do what your heart wants anon
>>64810956February
>>64810956Feb 1 but I wouldn't give it a hard cutoff if you need an extra week or something
>>64811272What do you want it for? Is it an EDC? You can get away with not having a huge stockpile of ammo for it while doing most of your drills in snapcaps (though obviously active shooting is superior). If its meant to be a gun for target shooting/range fun just get it in 9mm for the cheaper ammo and existing stock.I shoot a lot of .45 from my Remington R1 but its only because my Dad gave me something to the tune of 1200 rounds of his old target ammo when I bought it.
J-frame 642 or 442 or 340? Ultimate Carry or regular Airweight?
>>64811607340 but pretend it's 38 special
>>64808920> Jaime BondetteIt’s twink bond Reeeeeeeeee>>64809940That’s very nice and all but I have his suicide weapon and his WW1 weapon>>64810225Look for damaged ones you can repair, especially if they’re just barely not workingSprings are fixable Bolt stop fixableLarge metal components less so>>64811453Give me a little more time plsI still need to reload more ammo and source broomhandle ammo
Has anyone sent a S&W for warrant/defect work? How long do they take
>>64811703If you have the lifetime warranty that comes with new purchases, and you registered it, it really depends. For example if you have a 5.7 and an issue with the mags they'll basically tell you to fuck off. They'll be more receptive to less common issues with your gun but will generally take anywhere from two business weeks to several months depending on the exact issue you want them to fix.
>>64811703I did it in 2017, can't find exact time they shipped it back, but it's wasn't super fast, assume it's going to be away for a couple of months between shipping, service queue and repairs.
>>64811703Just took me exactly 4 weeks from shipping it to get it back. They said 7-8 weeks originally, probably holiday busy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfttGjZyZCk>dude is so scared he has to hold onto the bottom of the mag in the mag holderfucking kek
the 1911 chambered in 45 acp is the best handgun
>>64812216Sounds like a gun for a racist
>>64812216I don't think so, but it is still a fantastic and reliable firearm and .45 is still a great and reliable round. But a 7 shot single stack hammer fired handgun is a flat disadvantage compared to even a basic 9mm double stack striker fired handgun like a smith shield or a glock that have room to attach all of the fancy doodads you'd have to do a lot of gunsmithing to mount on your 1911. There are other disadvantages too, like the gun weighing a shitton compared to the other options I mentioned which makes carrying it anywhere except inner waistband or on the shoulder problematic.
>>64811607I say 638 but a 442 ultimate carry is a great deal since it doesn't have the lock (like it's a big deal) and it has actual sights
>>64811607>>64812444Oh wait I'm dumb, 642 is what I was talking about, not the 442.
>>64812125My local indoor range charges 200 dollars per shot that hits the ceiling/walls. I'd be scared of making a thousand dollar mistake in a fraction of a second too.
>>64811272then don't get a USP. you clearly want it for vibes reasons and at that point you know its a dumb purchase. right now is probably a bad time for frivilous purchases.
>>64812424Well at this point half the damn country will have a cuck mag mandate so 7 rounds of .45 will be a little better than 10 rounds of 9mm
>>64812462Even in those cases aren't there grandfather clauses? How do you enforce a 10 round capacity ban when Glock has been the top seller and has come with 15 or more rounds for 30+ years?
>>64812470There aren't, no, states like Virginia are basically banking on the willful compliance of the goy masses to disarm themselves of high capacity mags vs becoming criminals for refusal to comply. That said you should keep in mind that until the Assault Weapons Ban expired in late 2004, only law enforcement or adjacent individuals (e.g. private security officers) could possess magazines with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds. We've only had them back in the civilian market for just over 20 years. There's a strong precedent for mag restrictions which is what the most recent wave of state impositions on them have been relying on to bypass the Bruen decision.
Are you calling in sick when gen 6 comes out?
How do you fellas feel about the super safeties situation? We just got some neat ones for a variety of handguns when RareBreed filed their lawsuitI think there's a lot of pressure to lobby against them because of how they started hurting the boomer transferable market
>>64812577If you're interested in that type of thing, you may as well buy your super safety/FRT now because legislation to ban rate of fire enhancing devices is likely. Just accept that you may be made an overnight felon.
>>64812555No, but I might buy the 19 Gen 6 along with a Gen 4
I have 3 Safariland (used LE) holsters for my P220s, 1 Blackhawk Omnivore for when I get an optics cut on one of them.I'm considering either the Safariland QLS fork, or the G-Code RTI adapter for a QD solution. Pros and cons of each? What is the generally more preferred one? I do see some obviously fake QLS mounts and forks out there so I'm able to avoid them.Thoughts?
>>64812555Did you panic buy Gen Vs and 5s?
>>64812810Not him but I did panic buy the G26 Gen 5
>>64812799Blade-Tek mount.
>>64812917LolSo QLS vs RTI vs Blade-Tek now. Which is the best option?
>>64812447that's a gay fucking rule
>>64813225Sheeeeeeit mayne izza range mayne i didnt hit nobody dis is bullsheee
>>64813230don't project your nog fantasies on me bitch
>>64813240I thought we were larping as the kinds of people who care about such a rule.
>>64812216Every soldier who had to actually fire one knows it's shit. Somehow everyone else glorifies it
>>64813225Shooting the ceiling is good now? Shooting the target hanger mechanism is good?
>>64813259The 1911 has won more medals of honor than any other handgun in American service. I believe it’s been specifically cited more than any other firearm in military service.
>>64813299>inb4 a lot of those MoH wouldn’t be posthumously awarded if they had a different handgun
>>64812447Whoah, my local range would become rich then lose their entire customer based. Currently they charge 100 for the target hangers/wires and it seems like they're constantly replacing them
>>64812386Don't make 1911s any more cool than they already are, I don't want to have to carry one to virtue signal. My heart belongs to Beretta.
>>64813303My local indoor range has steel deflectors wedges welded onto the hangers. I rarely go there though so I have no idea how often they have to fix things.
>>64813302>He thinks lol9mm would 1 shot 7 japs in a rowThey wouldn't have, retard
>I need fuddyfive to blow away 5 foot 3 asian twinks.
>>64813329Yes
https://youtu.be/kwGvhLJGBZMErnie confirmed that beretta will now be using the Langdon cut
If I had a time machine I would go back a hundred years and give the USA 2011s so Staccatos wouldn't be black people coded in the present day
>>64813445>Staccatos>black codedI always thought they were Instagram trend follower coded. Aren't they too expensive for the average hood rat to own?
>>64813245*don't
>>64813461Rappers and other rich blacks have extensive 2011 collections since they’ve the Ferraris and Lambos of guns
Most recent acquisition.Cue the theme from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
>>64813769Hrrnngh sexo
>>64813769Sick My dad has two because of Indiana Jones. He’s autistic and wants to do the clone correct barrel chop and sight that’s way too tall to be zeroed
>>64813839And also the pistol changes from set location
There’s still time to shoot the January challenge, anon… You don’t want to miss out on being in the collage, do you?
>>64813849You’re getting pretty good, ppanon.I mean, you were always good but you’re getting even better haha
>>64813445>>64813461>>64813557It is just the new-rich/flex coded gun, not black coded. It is the Mercedes-Benz G-wagon of guns
>>64813889>implying
>>64813889Ppanon wouldnt be caught dead with a sensible carry option.
How much more can I rice out my stock glock before it starts to malfunctionSo far I'm putting a light and red dot and ramjet on it and thinking about a trigger upgrade
>>64812540AWB was crazy in retrospect
>>64813928Trigger swaps tend to be pretty reliable unless you install lower power springs (whether TRS or striker). If you do fuck with the springs, expect issues. The Radian stuff seems pretty reliable from what I’be heard, but I haven’t used one irl.
>>64813914I believe he would be caught dead having missed the attacker entirely
>>64813935Yea, it shows how far we’ve come and how you can’t fault the old NRA for not legalizing machine guns and whatever the current thing of the month is.A few decades ago even permitted conceal carry wasn’t a thing
>>64813914The troon carries 20s to throw at its rapist because it doesn't want it's garbage gun tagged for evidence
>>64813956I was a kid in the 80s so it blows my mind that this gun legislation gets passed and nobody does anything about it. If my state gets fucked like Virginia is about to be I wouldnt switch to cuck magazines
>>64814073I'm thankful I live in the "Live Free or Die" state where income tax and gun legislation are third rails for politicians.
>>64814073Where we are on gun culture and how things have improved, people won’t comply, companies will since getting sued for 10k or more for each magazine they sell is something else. The other thing is carrying an illegal mag gets questionable. Is the extra 5 rounds in a 15 rounder worth the risk from being fucked by the long dick of the law? 10 + 1 and a reload should be enough for self defense, but judging by cop footage is not enough for a gunfight. I saw something about how the lack of a grandfather clause in VA puts the bill into serious constitutional issues not only due to the 2A but the fact the bill will instantly turn a large number of people into criminals.
>>64813972honestly if im getting mugged and $20 is all it took to make them fuck off id rather that over the hearing damage and lawyer fees
>>64813302tunnel rats and specops shenanigans aside, drawing a pistol in combat usually means something has already gone very wrong. the 1911 just had the fortune of being the handgat on deck when most of those scenarios happened
>>64814103I agree, but the situation with ppanon hyping up his weapons and skill only to fold like wet toilet paper and tell people online about it is very amusing. Deescalation/avoidance is my priority. I'm not handing over my wallet/keys/phone I'd rather deal with a legal shoot situation in my state which has Stand your Ground laws but I wouldn't miss 5 dollars. I also think most people that can be bribed with a few bucks weren't planning on robbing you anyways.
>>64814118In a city near me a 12 year old with a extensive criminal history robbed a woman and then came back and stabbed the woman when her purse had nothing of value
>>64814129That's why I default to lethal force if I was to be robbed, anyone that's willing to kill you over small gains may just kill you because they're mad. There's tiers of criminals and muggers are at the bottom with rapists.
>>64814159Agreed. Real self defense situations aren't a video game where time slows down so you can react with an appropriate level of force.
>>64813329>need
>>64814102>grandfather clause>These are too dangerous>Unless you already owned it>So it's not too dangerous unless you're shit out of luck and want them after they're illegalgod I fucking hate mag restrictions they make me seethe
>>64814102>lack of a grandfather clause in VA puts the bill into serious constitutional issues not only due to the 2A but the fact the bill will instantly turn a large number of people into criminals.That shit happened in NY and no one blinked.
>>64814394I don't understand how adult gun owners back when we were young just stood by and took this shit.
>>64814412Adults aren't as rational as we thought they were apparently.
>>64814412American culture was different just 10 years ago
>>64814412>>64814418A large percent of this country's adults are functionally illiterate. The rest read at something like a 5th or 6th grade level. The most popular American pastimes involve consuming some form of media or getting shitface drunk. Every 3rd person you see in public would contribute more to society if they were ground into biofuel. (not that they should be)Not trying to be demoralizing, but you can't rely on the average person for anything. Get while the getting's good, and when things change for the worse you have to find ways to quietly navigate around whatever bullshit is put in place.
>>64814475I am functionally illiterate, I never learns phonics in school, I just memorize how to pronounce things and if I run into a word I don’t remember or haven’t seen before I look like a retard
>>64814412Because adults at least when I were a kid were Boomers and Gen Xers. Boomers listened to the TV and Gen Xers were too busy doing coke to care.
>>64814412>implying anyone in NY follows that shit
>Reading the proposed VA law shit>Meanwhile, the committee also passed a measure to require anyone with a child in the home to store their guns in a locked container that can only be opened via biometrics, like a person’s fingerprint.What the fuck? Are they going to pay for all that?>“Every handgun that is not a pistol has the capacity to have a magazine greater than ten. This is a grab to obtain all firearms or prevent Virginians for having them,” said Senate Minority Leader Ryan McDougle (R-Hanover).????
How do I clean the scratches off of this to make it look brand new? Should I get a brass wire wheel on a drill or hit it with the bench grinder? Tried using Blue Magic and Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish but it isn't good enough.
>>64813302>>64813327You mean like the beretta 9mm that was out at the same time and was scorned for being a piece of shit? lmfao
>>64814640>brass wire wheel on a drillIt won't polish, but it is a good idea, I recently took a brass brush to some p365 controls, they ended up decent, even took the brass color, but now it's wearing off. To polish, consider flitz on a buffing wheel instead of brass.
>>64814652Beretta didn't have a 9mm gun until the 1950s
>>64813956>>64814073>>64813935>can't fault the nraI know this is sarcasm but just mentioning it makes me seethe. Those faggots are such controlled fucking oppo, we did what they said was "impossible!!!!!!1111!!!!!" in basically ten years.Anyway, the reason the new gun gets passed in states like Colorado and Virginia is because they are blue strongholds. You might think, "well, some lefties like guns too though?"But the only states that are currently blue are diehard koolaid drinkers. And nothing, absolutely nothing terrifies the leadership of blue states more than the idea of an armed populace, and you need only look at certain situations across the country right now about exposed fraud - both embezzlement and voter fraud among other things - to understand why they're afraid of being lynched by their constituents.From my POV, states going all in on gun control all of a sudden are telling on themselves.
>>64814543He's talking about AR-15 "pistols" that have 20-30 round magazines.
>>64814672The model 1915 uses 9mm (though its 9x17 not 9x19). The M1934 uses .380 ACP, both were considered huge pieces of shit compared to .45 automatic.
>>64814640They're probably too deep to remove completely. Polishing stainless is a laborious multi stage process because stainless is pretty hard. A wire brush will just make it look like dog shit don't fucking do that.
>>64814691Current NRA maybe is, especially since whoever that CEO was that was stealing all the money but old NRA got us conceal carry permits and then started the long march to the current permitless carry we have in the majority of states. Your graph is their work. Without the old NRA things would be much much worse. I hate the current ones if that makes you feel better, I was just countering the dogma that they’ve never done anything for us >>64814652I was joking, I think the 1911 is one of the greatest guns ever designed. I also don’t consider the 2011 to be a different firearm since so many of the parts are the exact same. I also believe .45 ACP to be mythical cartridge and that it has its roots to the .44 Colt Walker that was the first repeating pistol to see military use (it fired .45 balls through a .44 barrel).
>>64812968Anyone?
>>64814758We only needed permits in the first place because they decided to help compromise our 2nd amendment rights in the first half of the 20th century in the fucking first place. They were founded in 1871 and were the largest proponents of taxes and legislation that specifically targeted gun owners. If they were actually lobbying for what they were supposed to, its unlikely the gca and nfa would have ever actually been passed. The only "good" thing I'd credit them for was lobbying the assault weapons ban to expire in 2004 instead of remaining indefinitely.
>>64814767I'd find it hard to argue for the others over Safariland
>>64813849>screenrecording of playing the video on his computergood shooting, bad webm making
>>64814777I don’t think you understand how far American culture or gun culture itself has shifted. Just 10 years ago people in the gun community like Hickok45 were arguing for bump stock bans. It’s real easy to blame someone for compromises but the alternative was nothing. As written the NFA would have required all handguns to be 200 dollar tax stamps, the NRA primarily defeated that. It’s all they could have gotten. There was no huge gun lobby. If American gun owners were unsatisfied they could have created their own groups, like they have done recently. Gun and American culture in the early 1900s was very different. Fucking prohibition was passed and ratified as an amendment. Constitutional amendments are an anal process. You love beer? Remember that time when beer was fucking banned federally? Do you think the people rose up and lobbied against it? It was a very long process to pass prohibition and it happened. It would have been impossible for that to happen for gun rights. The average normie doesn’t care about guns, back then they allowed prohibition even when everyone drank. The average normie doesn’t care about guns. But there are a lot more insane radicals who want to overthrow the country for their desired ideology so there’s a lot more gun right extremists these days. This is a stupid argument, none of us lived through those times but things for guns were very different. The idea that they were for use against the government would have been insane back then considering how docile people used to be to right infringements back then.
>>64814905I understand where you're coming from I'm still going to call them pussies and blame boomers for the sorry state of this country. It wasn't millennials that are responsible for the Hart Cellar Act
>finally start going shooting>weather dumpsters to below freezing for the next few weeksEven indoor ranges are cold as shit when its 50+ out. Fuck my stupid chud life
>>64814980I'm going shooting this weekend whether it's 25 or 50 out idgaf I'll wear a coat.
>>64814980I work twelve hours a day for the next four days. I'll go shooting on Monday or Tuesday
>>64814905You're a historically illiterate nigger, man. The GCA was passed directly after the coal wars, when laborers all across the country went on strike before ultimately retaliating against violent crackdowns against them with armed revolts, one of the most famous cases being the Battle of Blaire Mountain, where the national guard used white phospherous and mustard gas on American citizens. And not to mention the race riots and the retaliation that was happening all throughout the 40's and 50's that culminated in the infamous Detroit riots.The idea of guns being used to resist authority was not at all out of pocket. Those infringements happened because it came to pass on multiple occasions and then most of the men who were off the mind that it was necessary got shipped off to go die in europe and the pacific.
>>64814905>the average normie doesn't care about guns
wow guys we should all suck the fucking nra's cock for, at the best of times, fucking us gently instead of fucking us until our ass bledgee what a great org, so much better than all of these other ones accomplishing things like constitutional carry and coming within spitting distance of completely deregulating suppressors in just a few years
>>64814997You mean communist Marxist insurrections, people were very scared of a Marxist revolution in America hence the GCA and the acceptance of brutal crackdowns Interesting you do not reference the Battle of Athen’s Tennessee, the one that wasn’t a Marxist revolution where veterans of ww2 overthrow a corrupt government/police force. Notably the guns used were taken from a local national guard armory since they didn’t own their own guns. Back then a lot of people did not own guns and if they did it was for hunting and home defense.
>>64814905>The average normie doesn’t care about guns.I don't know what rock you're living under, but I'm here to tell you that literally everyone has guns now. Soccer moms have slimline Glocks in their Tahoes. Techbros are into 2011s. Poorfag retail workers are carrying Caniks in amazon holsters. Every LGS in my area is packed with normies from all walks of life on the weekends.
>>64815015The NRA didn’t fuck us, the people who write and pass these bills do. Gee why didn’t they stop it? It’s all their fault, not the authoritative government the people elected (did they really elect them? Voter fraud has been a thing for a long time).
>>64815026A very recent development, as several crises recently have made everyone more open to the idea of not relying on someone else for safety. Things are good and my outlook on the 2A is optimistic, but things used to be very different Just 15 years ago it was a real possibility of a another AWB
>>64815024>You have to pay us in legal tender, you're not allowed to work us to death like slaves, you also shouldn't be allowed to buy up all the utilities and businesses in town and refuse to provide services unless we agree to your bizarre pseudo-slavery scheme>LE GASP, you're all communists! Get 'em boys!>*uses chemical weapons on your wife and children lol*waoh, such patriotism
>>64815026NTA but I agree in that I think we won over the majority, ideologically and/or just by “it’s cool and I want it” capitalism. Thank the Lord.
>>64815024>back then a lot of people [headcanon]I didn't want to go on a diatribe of every event supporting my argument of which there were many. I also think it's telling that you think people revolting because they were being effectively enslaved - and don't try to worm out of this, the fair labor standards act and national labor relations act among others already determined that it was - by big corporations. If you think its Marxist to think your employer should respect your basic human rights, has to actually pay you instead of give you an IOU voucher for the company store, and isn't allowed to deny you time to use the rest room, eat lunch or drink water within reason and shouldn't be allowed to use private mercenaries to slaughter you if file a grievance or complaint then you're actually delusional.
>>64815032>Your honor, I didn't rape her, I just asked her rapist to rape her softly and got in a little action - consensually - after the fact. It was consensual because while she was crying I told her that it would have been way worse if I wasn't there and that she owed me sex.
>>64815032My guy, those faggots have spent my entire life bitching about how all the things we've accomplished recently "just aren't feasible""be realistic anon""lower your expectations, be happy with what you have"go shill your shit else where you quadruple nigger, fuck the nra, this post by the goa gang
>>64815119as justified as some of the conditions to cause such a revolt, there were communist groups involved.
>>64815140ofc ofc which is why the communist sympathizing pinkertons were the primary enforcement arm being wielded against the americans in question
>old fuck boomer supports the nra and thinks that its okay when corpos hire international communists - sorry, I mean "partisans" lol like allan pinkerton and co. to massacre american workers en masse for refusing to submit to communist labor cam - sorry, i mean "company towns" and "american communists" lolJEJ
Looks like I've been missing out on some real top quality handgun discussions in my favorite general thread on the internet, the handgun general. I just came here to say I bought 2 suppressors and am very excited to get them. Also I just found all the pokemon cards I had as a kid thrown in a ziplock in a drawer at my parents house. $2k I wasn't expecting is a nice chunk of change.
>>64815171Many such cases. As an aside, how do you feel about 10mm handguns? I've been thinking of a Smith M2.0 armornite in it.
>>64815208Good round, but ammo's too expensive, just get a .45 or 9mm+P.
>>64814640It looks brand new already, anon.
>>64814705It's nickel-plated zinc, there's very little steel in that photo.
>>64815242it's literally the same price as .45 basically now
>>64810882I bought a Kimber K6s DAO 3" I'm in commifornia so I pick it up in a week. I looked it over and is was made in New York so it's not their new factory. I know about replacing the firing pin with the TK customs one. Is there anything else I should change on it or look out for? It seemed good when I looked it over in the shop. I'm pretty excited, I was considering the K6xs but the k6s was just a little bit more, also considering getting the DASA model too
Visited the local office store to scan another set of copies after a disastrous first attempt but I'll be sure to exploit the lack of time limit and fire extra slow to ensure accuracy. The first rounds will be with Federal cartridges leftover from previous range trips and this odd PMC that I found on the floor from who knows where or when [in case of a squib, there's wooden rods in my range bag] >>64813849>still time to shoot the January challengeBetter believe it, come hell or highwater!>>64814118>my state which has Stand your Ground lawsYou still have to keep your story straight lest you end up like Michael Drejka of Florida or Daniel Perry of Texas: convicted of homicide in a "stand your ground" state after foolishly speaking to investigators instead of remaining silent and demanding a lawyer>>64814905I'm old enough to remember the proliferation in 2012 but nothing compares to the FOMO that spread faster than Wuhan-19 and the race riots
Anyone here tried a houdini holster? Not sure if worth the price.
>>64814543See? Aren’t you so happy that the Younkin anointed Earl spent most her add budget on the troooons? Sure this 2a derangement syndrome and gerrymandering comes after the dims won the biggest majority in 50 years but at least it felt good during the campaign didn’t it? And that’s what matters. Feeling good and being performative.
I love the 1911. Hello all 1911 chads
oops i just posted an airgun sorry
>>64815384Just post your gun instead
>>64815307>jewdini holster
>>64815307Do not buy bullshit. Get a proper holster.
>>64815384Waiting to see a picture of your 1911. I bet it's great.
>>6481542>>64815393This is mine
I'm finally selling my piece of shit prodigy bros. What's a good polymer full size pistol? I was thinking a m&p 2.0 or pdp.
>>64815485nighthawk thunder ranch 2011
>>64815485The MP series is a fantastic gun with a lot of high quality features packed in for a very reasonable MSRP. The only problem is if you want to get their 5.7, avoid that one. 10mm, .45 and 9mm are all excellent.
>>64815493Is the m&p 2.0 performance center 4.25 ported comped one worth it over a regular m&p 2.0?
>>64815500Depends. My suggestion if you're not sure is to get it unported and if you feel like you need the extra recoil control, buy a threaded barrel (or get an m2.0 with a threaded barrel out of the box) so you can attach a compensator. That's what I did.I think the ported barrel is worth it for anything over 9mm though.
is there any 1911 that is .45 government length normal looking serrations no rail bomar sights around $1,000
>>64815252The slide is stainless bro
>>64815509Thanks! Do you know how the PDP Pro SD compares?
Anyone have a vp9a1? How does it compared with a pdp pro?
>>64815307Never heard of it. Gimmick doesn't look interesting, it's not like there's any issue with drawing a gun from a kydex holster that otherwise has no retention. On another hand, it's not like it is overpriced, as long as $70 is all including the claw.
>>64815485Get a Gen 6 Glock
>fomo'd into agency x icarus collab grip and slide don't go down the $$$ p320 rabbit hole, this all started with a $200 surp trade in
>>64815914yeah
>>64816853It's a good rabbit hole if you start with p365 imo
>>64816907The p365 is probably better but lacks that je ne sais quois. Maybe its cuz the base model P320 is way drippier compared to ugly ass P365 base and the P320 still retains that old P series look somewhat. The aftermarket for P320 looks so bad ass its made me invest tons of money into a potentially unsafe flawed gun
>>64815207Use the 2k for therapy to cure your faggotry
>>64816924It's ok to be gay and I'm jealous of /arg/, they have a platform that soaks up money at a rate that Sig could only match if they started releasing gacha loot boxes with gun parts.
>>64815987The slide is Zamak, bro.
What's the best full size duty grade polymer handgun on the market right now? Glock gen 6? HK vp9a1f?
>>64815485>piece of shit prodigyExplain?>>64817045It's subjective, there are a lot of excellent options under $550. I'm partial to the S&W M&P M2&0 and PDP, they both have great texture, the PDP has an excellent trigger and the M&P is very soft shooting like a Glock
>>64817045FNX 9
>>64817065I don't care about the price
>>64817068No thanks
>>64817070There isn't anything better over that as far as I know. The VP9 is not a better gun because it includes the HK tax
>>64817045PPQ Tac
>>64816920P365 compact lools better than a basic bitch P320
>>64817070>>64817091*But forget about price, look at the options
>>64816944No it isn't ok. Faggots reproduce by rape. You will eventually rape kids to continue the cycle degenerate homo
>>64817091How's the VP9a1 full size compared to the M&P 2.0?
>>64817109Faggots can't reproduce
>>64817118retard
>>64817120Yeah you are
Ackshually it would be conversion.
>>64817148If getting anally raped and gaped 100% makes you gay, then what does that tell us about humanity?
>>64817114lol, you keep asking about the VP9, why do you seemingly want to be told that the VP9 is good?If you ask around here, the three best polymer guns on the market are the Glock, the M&P, and the PDP. Choose the one you think looks the coolest.
>>64817183Because HK owns me
>>64817183>Choose the one you think looks the coolest.About that......
Why is it so difficult for companies to offer more firearms in FDE? Most of my guns are BLACKED and it's just getting boring
>>64817202FDE is already a passing fad. Everyone realized that it's actually ugly.
>>64817209Still better than blacked shit, black stands out too much, it's just a shit color, literally.
>>64810882How late can we submit for the January monthly challenge? Hoping to get to the range tomorrow.
I’m waiting for guns to come out in dazzle camo to defeat AI image recognition.
I want a Glock that has a blue frame but black slide and backplate.
>>64817114I shouldn't answer because I haven't so much as handled the A1.But I had an older one, which I can compare to my M2.0: the M2.0 was quite softer shooting, had a substantially better grip texture and cheaper mags. The VP9 had a better trigger back then but the new M2.0s have improved triggers now likely as good or better than a VP9. If they were the same price it would be close enough not to matter. But they're not, heck you could get an M&P Metal for what the VP9A1 costs now it's crazy. Back when they were $450 it was whatever because it was a cheap gun built cheaply but now they're charging premium money for it
>>64817273Oh ok fuck HK then
>>64817289Attaboy
>>64817273Burt did you go monkey strength on that poopsteel thread protector and break it? I take mine off before going to the range because I don't want it to fly off.
>>64817359I doubt he didn't anything wrong. Deflected brass managed to dent my dogshit sp5k's metal along with the dogshit finish, prob just typical HK quality
>>64817328Inside of me there are two wolves: one is Burt and one wants to buy a USP in 45 with all my heart. This has been a constant struggle for years and I am unironically grateful that you've prevented me from making a foolish financial decision
>>64817367I doubt he did anything wrong* FUCK
>>64817154Sounds like this concept goes above your mental skillset.
>>64817400Sounds like you can't get your point across
>>64817359No. The thread protector had kind of tapered ends and the barrel had a reduced shank shoulder that basically became a wedge when you install the thread protector, there was no hard shoulder. Eventually it split. It was a dumb design, the thread protector should have a flat face on each end to mate with a flat face shoulder on the barrel like literally everyone else does>>64817369HK is only a good buy if you score that deal of the year and get one mighty cheap. That's the only way I ended up with any HKs lol
>>64817396It was a joke bro because Burt is a beefcake. I'm not familiar with SP5s at all, does the brass hit aluminum? Brass is harder than aluminum and several of my ARs have dented brass deflectors. Can't relate on HK quality issues, I only have one and it seems solid so far a couple thousand rounds into ownership.
>>64817408Do you need to be handheld sboit a basic concept like conditioning?
>>64817428Seems to me you could put an o-ring on that shoulder and it would help retain the thread protector and keep that from happening when you torque it down. I agree with anon that going monkey mode tightening it so that it won't come off will eventually break it because of that design, it is thin and has a ton of stress concentrations (the knurling) after all.
>>64817430It's not aluminum, it's dogshit stamped steel. I can't wait to get roller dents on my piece of shit sp5k and throw it the fuck away
>>64817109We can deal with the ones that snap, let the peaceful faggots be>>64817202When there's another desert war, maybe, but for now pistols are going to be black and gray
>>64817428Ouch. Tightening it down much will definitely eventually crack that, it's expanding itself with the threads.I might try what >>64817438 said and put a thin high temp o-ring on mine because it looks like it butts up against a ledge like that too. >>64817439Must be really thin or soft steel. Good thing I have no interest in paying thousands of dollars for a neutered MP5 because it doesn't sound like I would like having one.
>>64817454Doesn't matter. Fde is still the better color even with no desert wars, black stands out
>>64815485Welcome to the club brother>>64817065I've been trying to sell mine for over a year now :( buy it>>64817092I have a navy one and I really don't like it. No optic cut and the sights aren't suppressor height. What was the fucking point of that Walther?>>64817118They absolutely do the exact way that anon is saying. Look at the statistics, if you're gay you were wayyyyy more likely to have been molested/raped as a child. I knew a guy whose gay friend once casually mentioned they had a religion kink because a catholic priest diddled them.>>64817273The M&P is now Ben Stoeger approved. I haven't watched the video yet but the title is saying he likes it.
>>64817469It's really frustrating because I get more dents/scratches after every indoor range trip, really fucks with my autism and it's not easy to fix the finish because no one knows how to, fuck HK
>>64817476You shouldn't be worried about the finish appearance on guns you actually use... Sounds like HKboomer collectorism has started to infect you. The mild wear spots on my only HK are a badge of honor if anything because most of the ones I see look like they have never been fired.
>>64817484I know I know. It's a tool, but I just prefer my firearms looking nice and clean. I'm autistic as fuck about it, you'd think they'd go with a more durable finish for the fucking price
I am really loving the feel of the Bodyguard 2.0. It's my first ever gun, and hasn't even had live ammunition in it yet. I supplemented snap caps to practice loading, discharging, and handling my firearm.Going to the range soon to shoot my very first gun for the first time. Do I need a case to be allowed in? I ordered a small-ish range bag, since I feel like the range does NOT want people brandishing unloaded firearms in their parking lot or lobby. Will that be enough to safely bring my firearm to the range without getting in trouble? I know it's a retarded question but desu there's a lot of rules I'm still familiarizing myself with that I don't want to break.Here's the Bodyguard 2.0 next to my keyboard. There's a ten-round mag loaded with dummy bullets as well.>Nervous, cause im retarded
>>64817499Just because I don't mind wear marks doesn't mean I don't like my guns nice and clean, I clean after every range outing. What sort of finish do you expect to show no signs of wear where brass is smacking it thousands of times? Some people complain that the finish on the top of the breech wears off as it rubs against the slide of their handguns. I don't care what finish you put on that, it's going to show wear. I guess TiN might wear well, but it'll still wear.
You can clearly tell who the indoor range shooters are by how autistic they are about a shooting gun getting wear.
>>64817500Keep it in the box/bag it came in when you go in. If you don't know what the hell you're doing and don't have any friends to help you just ask someone at the counter for what their procedures/rules are.
>>64810993>missing isn't a big dealIt will be when you kill three people 40 yards behind your target because you think you can just magdump on your 7 yard target and call it a day.
>>64817527Idk, dlc? But then again I have scratches on my staccato P after a few hundred rounds, so that was another marketing meme
>>64817500The amount of rules completely depends on the range. A bag is always a good idea. Keeps your:>gun>mags>ammo>earpro>timer>tape/staple gun>etc. etc. all in the same place. If you're going to some anal retentive range, you should probably case your gun separately then put it in the bag. Also stop worrying, you'll be fine
>>64817542You think I don't want to be an outdoor range guy? There's fuck all options here
>>64817570>>64817547Word, thank you guys. So, basically, I can unload it, put it in the bag, and just let them know I have my firearm (unloaded) in the bag and I want to follow the rules, is it cool to book some range time, etc. Thanks for letting me know. My place seems pretty lax, but I don't want to cause an incident by spilling my spaghetti
>>64817500Great. I'm sure you'll fit right in.To answer your question, a soft case is the way to go unless you plan on wearing it holstered. I'm sure it came in a box, just toss that in your range bag or pick up a soft case for ten bucks. You'll need to bring ear and eye pro as well. Don't bring drinks or snacks. Print and bring your own targets or pay extra for them at the range. Take your time shooting at your own pace and enjoy yourself. Once you do decide you're comfortable enough to carry the gun, be sure to run a box or two of your chosen carry ammo through it to be sure your gun will function properly with it.Bodyguard 2.0 looks really nice. I've heard nothing but good things from people who own them and I had fun dry firing one at the store.
>>64817586You're already ahead of a good amount of people they're going to see at the range on a daily basis. A somewhat nervous but attentive newbie is much preferable to some porch monkey shooting the ceiling with his Draco.
>>64817500good gun
>>64817586They'd rather you ask for help if you're clueless than cause a safety issue. At least, that's how my first LGS job was almost 20 years ago.>>64817569Forgot about DLC. My watch has a DLC coating on it, it has held up really well to years of daily wearing, but it still has a few spots where it has been worn through. I occasionally smack it on the corner of a wall or desk as I walk or it will hit the ground when I forget to take it off before doing some work. Regardless, a gun is a machine, it will show wear. Wear can be beautiful in its own way.
>>64817273The VP9A1 is a great gun that I will say is worth it in the end, but it is vastly more cost effective to get the regular VP9 used and then get the trigger from the vp9a1 from HK themselves. The A1 series is the "I don't want to upgrade it myself" version of the regular vp9 that I would say is comparable to the shadow systems/glock, but without any issues shadow systems has.
Is it true they're discontinuing the Steyr M9?
Are all 92 slides compatible between models? Ive got a vertec and want to put a dot on it. Instead of getting it cut id rather have something thats specifically made to take one
>>64817890Vertec is the same as any other full-size Compact/centurion need shorter slide rails
>>64817500Double up on ear pro. Wear foam earplugs on the inside, and overear muffs on the outside. You’ll thank me later.
>>64817830Steyr is now just a brand they put on Arex
>>64817918What in the fuck is on the top one
I'm the anon who has the Bodyguard 2.0. Is it common for a firearm to rattle sometimes? I notice when I rack it and it "sticks" (not sure what that mode is called where the guns foreskin is peeled back), if I get it racked the right way no ratter.>>64817943Much appreciated. I bought a good pair of "ear bud" style shooting protectors, but I think I'll double up like you said. I love music too much to lose itt. Boards of Canada #1 fan world wide>>64817621Thanks! I'm looking forward to it>>64817588Damn fuck anon, I really appreciate this insider advice here. Is it possible to have my own targets printed (and bring them in) at like a print shop? I'd love to have like silly stuff on there.
>>64817972>doesn't immediately recognize robocop-gunNEWFAG GET THE FUCK OUT
>>64817978What did you procure for cleaning/lubrication?
>>64817978>Is it common for a firearm to rattle sometimes?Yes>I notice when I rack it and it "sticks" (not sure what that mode is called where the guns foreskin is peeled back), if I get it racked the right way no ratter.The SLIDE is locked back. Nigga I don't know if you're trying to be funny or if you're really a brainlet but come on bro RTFM
>>64817978>Is it possible to have my own targets printed (and bring them in) at like a print shop? I'd love to have like silly stuff on there.Absolutely. Go nuts.
I hate how expensive ammo can be and that feeling of regret shooting ammo that should be stockpiled
>>64817990Sorry unc I've never watched it
>>64816310Sorry, never used it, best I could give you is an educated guess, knowing it has a higher bore axis than an MP that it's going to not feel as good to shoot and the magwell is going to make it harder to CC.
>>64817995Nothing yet. It has yet to have live ammunition fired through it. Any recs tho?>>64818009Can I have... anything printed on a target like pic related? It haunts me and I need to kill him.
>>64817978>not sure what that mode is called where the guns foreskin is peeled backKeked, but yeah, in recoil operated guns when the slide is locked back, the barrel isn't completely locked, it will rattle. Please watch a single YouTube video or read the manual to find out what parts of the gun are called. Like, not to the level where you can tell which is which between side lock and slide stop, but at least that you don't call slide foreskin and barrel crown a glans, ok.
>>64817990I don't blame him, shit movies
>>64818010Do you have a 9mm or 22lr? Those tend to be affordable if you work full time.
>>64817202BUT BROOOOOOOOOOOOOITS LIKE DESERT CAMO BROOOOOOOOOOOI miss the fake wood, nickeled barrels and blued frame fad. Atleast it looked cool.
Not even chinkshit is free of the lawyer text.
>>64818107I don't like FDE because it's like desert camo, I like it because it's not fucking black and it's like the 2nd most popular color after black so more available than other colors
>>64818111I dislike it because it's not actually desert camo and it's ugly and it's popular. Pink camo is ugly as shit too but it doesn't have a wide audience like FDE does.
>>64818055robocop 1 is one of the greatest sci fi movies ever made
FDE sucks ass. OD Green is superior
>>64818013>he didn't play the hit RPG shooter Robocop Rogue City or its sequel
>>64817273Burt have you tried the Apex trigger on the m&p? I just got an m&p and while the stock flat faced trigger is pretty good, I’ve heard a lot of mythical things about the Apex. As a 1911 guy I’m wondering if its a massive improvement to the m&p and if it would bring it significantly closer to feeling like the 1911 trigger
>>64818147Ew
>>64818109It's because they're compliant with US laws and everyone needs to have fuckhuge warnings about batteries because grown ass adults are too retarded to keep batteries away from children. Chinkshit is absolutely immune to these laws and regulations.
>>64817978Yes most guns especially polymer striker fired have some rattle to them. I also don't know how much your range charges for 380 but you may want to buy some online or from a store where it's reasonably priced because some ranges will absolutely rape you and charge double what you can get it for online.Also make sure to tip your range safety officer
>FDE>Black>ODG>basic bitch frames, some even serializedgross. i love my P320 legos so much its unreal
>>64818252So many different ways for the P320 to go off on your dick
>>64818273the drip strike industries grip module and icarus x agency get it nice and hard for a bigger target
I attempted the pistol qual today and I realized that I need more practice with my handgun. and maybe attempt it when it's warmer than 4° so I can actually hold still. I'll try again on Saturday.
>>64818255Little ratfaced bitch huh? I bet if you took a scraping tool and removed the thick, caked on makeup from her face she's scare the shit out of you.
>>64818292I commend you for trying, Anon. Keep it up
>>64818030>I need to kill him.If I saw you shooting at that picture I'd have a hearty kek and strike up a conversation.
>>64818010Delete this picture of my wife
>>64818302thanks. if I get any halfway decent results I'll post them.
>>64818292Which qual? The 9/25 one?
>>64818369yeah. that's what people said when I asked.
>>64818157Ya, it improved my old M&P's trigger a LOT, but it took a lot of fiddling to get it where I want it and working right. It's very light with the springs I have (idk which), maybe 3 pounds. There is a good wall, about 1mm of creep with very little to no overtravel. Significantly closer to a 1911 than it was for sure, though not exactly thereHowever when the M2.0s came out, the trigger was improved enough that I didn't bother with Apex on that. And now they're 2-3 trigger iterations beyond even that, they're pretty good already. Apex should take it higher than the level of a good PDP, perhaps close to Walther's Dynamic trigger.Take with a little grain of salt, my Apex CAEK is an early one and they may have improved it since 10 years ago, it could be better or worse now idk
I love HKs and Berettas.
>>64818347You should post them anyway. As it stands right now, the only people who post groups/results are really good shooters, and so newfriends develop unrealistic expectations about how good they should be.
>>64818479alright. I didn't take any pictures from today because it was trash, but I will on Saturday.
>>64818479Yeah and everyone making fun of Ppanon and pastebin doesn’t help.but people only make fun of those two since they overstate their shooting abilities and have been very annoying. Both of them caused people trying to flee to other generals
>>64818525People make fun of ppanon and pastebin because they’re obnoxious, not because they suck at shooting (although tbf that fact doesn’t really help their cause)
>>64818429I love every gun maker except Sig. Sig is the only firearm manufacturer that puts profits over the lives of Americans.
>>64818565I like Sig
>>64818566
>>64818565sig is mid but their aftermarket is absolute peak. Thanks for being modular sig
>>64818566>cops during a peaceful traffic stop when your Sig P320’s shake awake activates and UDs in your glove box
>>64818574I thought this was a Glock post...
>>64818417Very helpful, thank you. I’ve just got a normal m&p 2.0 so i might just stick with it a bit longer and see if its something i can make peace with, perhaps with time it will smooth out more
>>64818573>>64818577Sig raped you lol
Just got my first handgun. I wanted reliable and the old guy at the gun store said this was the most reliable I would find. I wasn't so sure because it has a plastic grip...
>>64818651Stop lying, faggot. Also, enjoy the shit trigger lol
What's a good price for a Ruger MKI? There's one for sale in my area for 300 bucks which looks okay just some loss of bluing and a couple of scratches.
>>64816310the pdp has a much better trigger out of the box but is snappier. the apex trigger for the m&p should be pretty close to the pdp if not just as good, and it will be softer shooting
>>64818657>hurrr bere77a moar bedrKill yourself tranoid
>>64818657Seems fine to me, but what do I know.
>>64818637I liked it and I want more
>>64818674apparently, nothing
>>64818651Good job, Anon. Now buy a bunch of ammo and go shooting. And take a one on one basic handgun course
If the 92 isn’t wide enough for you, Herrett’s has just the thing for you
>>64818761
>>64818761>>64818766Needs to be bigger, I want to palm it like a basketball
>>64818680Thanks for your constructive criticism.
>>64818701I already bought a big box of .45 auto online. I don't really think anyone around here gives those courses so I'm considering booking one that I have to travel for. I just don't want to have to fly somewhere with it.
>>64818577>picRemind me why they did that when they needed untainted human stock with which to repopulate the continent?>>64818651Neat
>>64818307Don't talk to me while I'm trying to curve bullets at the range, okay boomer?
>>64818249>Also make sure to tip your range safety officerI'm the BG 2.0 anon -- is this real? Or a meme like tipping the gym front staff from /fit/Thanks for the tip. Is $30 for 50/rounds of FMJ good? That's what I paid -- I just wanted to have some training rounds. I think I paid $36 for 20/rounds of hollow point for when I'm ready to carry.
Alcohol is funI bought a new Glock 19 Gen 4 to complement my Glock 19 Gen 5
>>64818790I would go to a public indoor range near you and ask the employees. Usually they can point you on the right direction
>>64818873I can't decide if I prefer the finger grooves or not. They both feel alright.
>>64818886Well I have a Gen 5 Glock 19 so I figured I'd have an older modelI have two Glock 17s anyway, one Gen 5 and the 17 Classic
>>64818827>why did the scorpion sting the frog?
>>64818577literally according to the devs there wasn't a reason because the animatic was made before any actual writing for the enclave was done beyond>glowie badguys
>>64818827It was self-defense, also they deserved it
I went to a local upscale range.As soon as I got out of my Honda they were laughing at me. I thought the laughter died down as soon as I pulled out my Nighthawk case out of my trunk but as soon as got to my stall and opened it they all started laughing hysterically, they were only catching their breath. One guy was laughing so hard he was rolling around on the floor and knocked over the brass goblin’s bucket.The RSO came over and asked if I had my EBT card to pay for the lane, the lunch lady at the buffet gave me an extra chicken tender so I wouldn’t “go hungry” that night.A guy with an SVI INFINITY moved to the lane next to me and didn’t even say anything he just smirked as I jumped whenever his open gun shooting 9mm Major’s muzzle blast would knock over my paper targets on the table. I was so nervous I could barely group since I was shaking so much. It got so bad I fumbled a draw and dropped my nighthawk on the floor, it went off, and everyone laughed. The RSO told me not to pick it up and that the garbage man would take care of it. I have never felt so humiliatedThe range janny came over in the Zamboni and picked up my nighthawk for me, he wiped it off and then got the CLP spray bottle and ruined the finish not knowing Nighthawk’s black nitride is very cosmetically fragile. I know he was just trying to be nice on the worst day of my life but it literally could not get any worse.
>>64818967nighthawk cucks stay losing
Anyone here have experience with Battlehawk Armory? They have SP101s for $600 which I think is the lowest they'll ever be.
I thought this was a Heckler & Koch fanatic but the bottom of the frame reads "HELLO KITTY">>64818292Yeah, Glocks are harder to use without an optic
>>64819179they're legit, one of the biggest drop shippers
>>64819231>I thought this was a Heckler & Koch fanatic but the bottom of the frame reads "HELLO KITTY"That just means they have pink HKs and pink HK accessories.
>>64819244Checked
>>64819420>Visible Serial #>Visible Testicles
Thinking about it and looking at the crack, the lens probably cracked from an ammo box with ~400-500 rounds .45 ACP in on falling on the optic
does this exist irl?
Thoughts on the new M&P 10mm Carry Comp? I'm wanting to get into 10mm and ideally would like something I could get into my ccw rotation.
>>64819686Get a steel frame since that's the only thing good for 10mm
>>64818574Sig is like a 2000-2016 Bethesda game. Yeah the base model is very mid but mods unironically fix it.
>>64819662https://www.surefire.com/news/?p=the-terminator-laser-45
>>64819894can you recreate this nowadays?
>>64819913Sure, I guess, if you're willing to do a lot of the work yourself or drop five grand for someone else to do it for you. I think airsoft also sells their own version if you just want a display piece for your gun instead of a functional laser to shoot with
>>64819763There is a steel frame 10mm m&p?
best enclosed red dot for a microcompact?>inb4 >red dot >compactShould I just get the romeo x?>inb4 homosunI would, but their footprint requires me to either have my slide milled or get a plate, which prevents cowitnessing.
>>64820196>homosunThere's EPS carry and nothing else>sigPathetic
>>64820206>There's EPS carry and nothing elseEPS core is the superior solution for a subcompact/micro. Just have to wait until they're in stock.
>>64820284>EPS core>rmsc (not k)zased
>>64820284You may be right, but it's easy too new. Did anyone even shoot a thousand rounds with one of those on a gun?
>>64820307I've had good experiences with my past 3 holochink optics, so I plan to buy a core before waiting for some youtuber or something to make a thousand round review.
>>64820284Bigger optic glass doesnt fix your bad grip angle it just makes it less embarrasing.
>>64820346I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Grip angle? Did you reply to the wrong post? I'm buying a core when I can because it's a better fit on a subcompact, no other reason.
>>64820355Core will have a larger window than EPS carry, same size footprint, but compatible with RMSc unlike EPS and EPS carry, oh, and it's cheaper.
>>64820357Take your pills, anon. You're all over the place. None of that has anything to do with grip angles. It's a better fit for a subcompact (most are RMSc cut) because it doesn't require an adapter plate and it has a narrower base.
I blast my slide with G96, with my open emitter red dot when cleaning. Is it over (or will it be over)?
>>64820355>>64820363How is your bigger glass optic better objectively then?
>>64820363I'm not >>64820346 just pointing out, EPS core not for micro compact better, EPS carry does. Core has a bigger window.
Wtf is with the Sig optics hate? They unironically make the best red dots these days with both the Romeo X line mogging the Holosuns, and the 4T/XT pro mogging Aimpoint and 8T AMR destroying Eotechs.
>>64819179Bummer, that. I got the Wiley Clapp edition for that way back when. I guess they used to be cheaper.
>>64818868Yeah it's like that meme. 30 isn't great but it's fine (my range charges 40 for a box of 50) as it's gonna let you get practice in. Use ammoseek and sort by free shipping in the future and that should keep your 380 under 15 for a box of 50.
>>64810882How good is the 7.62 tokarev and the 7.63mm Mauser compared to the 9mm?
>>64820523Literal Chinese shills (cylee guy) lurk in here and also general well deserved hatred of Sig
>>64820381Sure, yeah yeah the window this the window that. Window window window. That isn't why I want one or what I think makes it better than the EPS carry for a subcompact though, it's the footprint, like I said before. The EPS carry needs a plate on most subcompacts (which are RMSc) the EPS core does not, and the base is narrower so it doesn't stick out past the slide as much at the mounting point. I'll post a pic comparing the two when I get one, they're out of stock everywhere though.
>>64820767Thanks anon, do it for science
>>64820767I'm probably switching to the EPS core from RMR HD and intend to put a AEMS macro on a bear gun. Pretty stoked for these optics. They're out of stock because they aren't being sold yet. On distributors they're listed as coming soon.
>>64820890>6061 instead of 7075literally junk, kilt in da streetz
>>64820767>the EPS carry needs a plate on most subcompactsNo it doesn’t. The difference between the Holosun k and Shield RMSc is that the k removes two recoil bosses. This means that it’s one-way compatible, you can mount k footprint optics like the EPS Carry directly to RMSc mounts, but not RMSc optics to a k-footprint gun (if anyone made such a thing). EPS Carry direct mounts to the P365/Hellcat/most everything else with an RMSc footprint.
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>>64820927I don't drop my guns. Especially not my carry which is always holstered or in my hands. Whenever they release a 7075 version I'll get that, I hope they get ones with solar down the road.
>>64820936No, that's backwards, anon was right. RMS (four 1.7mm holes) will fit on a K footprint (two 1.3mm lugs). K (two 1.3mm holes) will not fit on a true RMS footprint (four 1.7mm lugs) because it doesn't even have four holes, and the two it does have are half depthSome manufacturers cheat the footprint, split the difference, or have plates for both, but most guns are the four lug RMS footprint and thus need to be modified to fit an EPS or K
>>64820936retard
>>64820927IDGAF and I'm probably more familiar with the differences in different metal alloys than most. I'm not going into combat and making big rocks into smaller rocks with my subcompact carry gun.
>>64820997>most guns are the four lug RMS footprint and thus need to be modified to fit an EPS or KWhat modifications do you need to make to a P365 to mount a 407k/507k/EPS Carry?
Don’t really love my EPS Carry 3bh. It’s okay, but I only got it because it was shilled to me by people like Humble Shartsman and Hop, whom I esteemed before I knew any better.
>>64821053
>>64821070Maybe you should google it.
>>64821053I don't know what the P365 cut looks like, but if it's actual Shield spec, you'll need to grind the two rear lugs flush and file down the front lugs to about half height.I was mixing up the K and EPS--K is only 0.9mm deep not 1.3mm>>64821064Why you don't esteemed them now? Neither is untrustworthy
>>64821064>Don’t really loveThere are very few products in the gun space worth "loving" most, even high end, are adequate at best.
>>64821081It's not that they're untrustworthy per se, it's just that their opinions don't really mean much to me/are not very reliable predictors of how I'll feel. Shartsman said that green blooms an astigmatism less, and $350 bucks later I get mine and discover it makes mine worse. Hop said that the EPS carry has less distortion than a 509T, but that hasn't been true in my experience, etc.
>>64821101Astigmatism is super personal, I've also learned not to trust any advice or suggestions about which is better for what, and I view such suggestions with extreme skepticism. So lesson learned I guess lolIn my experience the EPS is less distorted than my 509T, less green too, idk maybe that's down to manufacturing eccentricities? Or generations maybe? I did a distortion test on my optics and the 509T was one of the worst so just about anything SHOULD be betterBut maybe I have a bad one and you have a good one
>>64821101>Shartsman said that green blooms an astigmatism less, and $350 bucks later I get mine and discover it makes mine worse.That's your fault. Astigmatism can be better or worse depending on color for different people and if you had spent 2 minutes in a gun store comparing display models or doing an internet search instead of just listening to a guntuber you would have known that.
>>64821158>Just do an internet search broOh, but I did. They all said that the human eye picks up green easier and at lower amplitudes, and so you can crank a green dot less and still see it, ergo it’s better for astigmatism. And yet…
>>64821172Ok fuckstick. I did it for you, and the first result>redditis someone saying red works better for them. So admit it, fess up. Your google-fu is weaker than your granny's pimp slap, and you're a retard who just impulse bought based on a guntube video.
I'm happy i got my G43x optic milled for a K footprint instead of buying an MOS. Seems like K ended up winning the footprint wars.
>>64821180I think you're awfully confused. In one breath, you caution against "just listening to a guntuber", and in the next, you take the opinion of someone on reddit as pure gospel.
>>64821172For me it's red, large, at low brightness. I imagine most people here would say the sameymmv, won't know till you try is the lesson, you can read forums going back 20 years where people go back and forth nuh-uhing each other ad nauseum about it and know there isn't one objective solution for everybody's ligmatism.I hope others see this and don't buy into the _blank_ is better for _x_ meme
>>64821192You're such a fucking retard the point goes over your head. The point is different people are saying different things which means YOU NEED TO TRY IT YOURSELF YOU FUCKWIT
I shall never mistake the map for the territory…
>>64821213So, you admit that your """advice""" to "just do an internet search" was plainly and incontrovertibly wrong?Then I accept your concession.Btw, I'm smarter and a better shooter than you.
>>64821223you are one stupid motherfucker. Maybe print my first post out and shove it up your nose so it gets closer to your brain? >>64821158>if you had spent 2 minutes in a gun store comparing display models or doing an internet search instead of just listening to a guntuber you would have known that.
>>64821196For me it's red, all the brightness, so the streaks converge enough for me to make out a "dot".
>>64821225Okay, so you again admit that your "just do a google search" shtick isn't a substitute for actual knowledge, and that your entire worldview is a vague simulacrum imposed upon you by faceless entities over the internet. Got it.
>>64821231You stupid fuck1. guntuber says green better2. google search says red better3. you observe different reports and try it yourselfBut instead you just stopped at step one and bought and now you're pretending you're smart.
>>64821101NTA but you're dumb as shit for spending $350 on an optic without at least checking it out in a store first.
>>64821235Hey, so you're doing the thing where you're moving the goalposts, and then lashing out at your betters for pointing that out. First you said to not accept the opinions of random guntubers as gospel, and then you instruct people to accept the opinion of google as gospel, and now you're saying that you HAVE to have firsthand experience with the item in question to make informed purchases. So, which is it? What if the purchasing criterion was "how does the optic perform after 10000 rounds?" What if it was "how does the optic perform at freezing temperatures?" What if it was "how does the optic perform under direct sunlight?" None of those are testable by simply handling the item in question at a gun store. Where does your advice now lead us? What would you have us do?
>>64821249dumb nigger. I'm done with you. I didn't read anything past the comma after Why
>>64821249>>64821239
>>64821253Okay. I accept your concession, and I won't bully you further in the next thread.
>>64821254>>64821249>hurr durr u can't do a full test at the gun storeYou say none of these things is testable at the gun store but do you know what is? How much better or worse for your astigmatism green is vs red. You can pick it up in the gun store and at first glance know immediately if the red or green is worse. I know this because I have astigmatism so I tested out red and green before buying to see which is better. For me, it's red by a longshot.
>>64821271>You can pick it up in the gun store and at first glance know immediately if the red or green is worse.Not necessarily, no. For me, the difference between a slightly starbursty green dot versus a slightly starbursty red dot isn't super apparent, especially under florescent lights indoors. It's only when you really crank the power against a bright white surface, or look at the over-bright dot in dead darkness, does the difference become apparent.
These anons arguing about red or green dots is why I'm going with gold dots for all my future optic purchases.
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>>64821299>It's only when you really crank the power against a bright white surface,And why can't you do that in the gun store? If they'll let you finger fuck it, they'll let you turn the brightness up. For me it was as simple as picking up a vortex that had a switchable red or green dot, pointing it at the wall, and hitting that button a few times. It was pretty obvious that green was worse.
>>64821346>And why can't you do that in the gun store? Because, to my eyes, the difference is minor, and wouldn't even necessarily persist from individual model to model. Again, if we're being hardline "YOU HAVE TO TRY IT IRL BEFORE BUYING" retards, then you have to the exact optics in question, in all conditions. That's not always feasible.
>>64821357So the smearing is bad enough for you to complain that you were tricked into buying green on 4chan, but it's so minor you don't notice it in a gun store? Sounds like you just need to stick to iron sights because your eyes are all kinds of fucked up.
>>64821369No, more like I was expecting, or hoping for, various benefits that never really materialized after a few years of owning the thing.>you should stick to iron sightsNo thanks.
>>64821053Modern optics cut P355s are K cut so they'll direct mount K cut optics and need a plate for RMSC
>>64818967I like this pasta
>>64811453Apologies if this has been asked/answered, how or where do I submit my entry? Just here in the thread?
>>64821860Yep
>>64810882Another one for the collage
>>64822162Nice one
