Way she goes, the expertise required to create beautiful guns is rare and they deserve to be paid highly for their amazing work

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>Two Hundred American Dollars Plus Tip
Wow!

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>luxury goods cost money in excess of their actual utility
holy moley

>>64818153
Boy, is that watch ugly. When will consumers of luxury products get some taste? They seem to be attracted to gaudy bullshit like flies to literal bullshit.

>>64818167
>two tone BAD
Get with the program unc, the 90s are back

>>64818123
Wait until you find out what an H&H shotgun costs.

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>>64818123
>Plus Tip

>>64818168
>two equals five
Yeah. That cacophony of ugly shapes and colors is great if you are a major masochist, not a mere private one.

>>64818168
Not him, it's not the colors, it's gaudy because it's unbearably flashy, it's nothing more than a recognition sign for people like oneself.
To each their own

>>64818177
Wait until you find out a Citori 725 is about 98% as good for 1/100th the price.

>>64818142
You can buy jamal's used hi-point for half that anywhere. They fire one mag through it and it jams every shot so they sell it to a pawn shop, nothing is wrong with it just oil it a little and have a real grip

>>64818132
can't tell if bait or not

>>64819078
So?

>>64818167
yeah

>>64818992
What's particularly flashy about it? Lots of watches are gold and silver.

>>64818167
Post a wristwatch you think looks good.

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>>64819611
NTA, but I think it's too busy in a variety of ways. The blue on the bezel is very gaudy. So are the oversized lume markings. A cyclops is usually ugly, this is no exception. It's also enormous.

If someone were actually diving then some of those features make sense: large size, big lume, all makes sense for that. But despite the name, nobody is going diving with that, it's a luxury watch inspired by a dive watch and the two worlds clash. I'm not a watchfag but I always was confused by how people drool over the submariner.

>>64819611
>>64820271
Agreed. Rolexes are almost universally hideous, but far from the worst offenders. Most modern luxury watches are flashy as hell because the people who buy them want everybody to know they have a watch that costs more than most people make in a month.

I like mechanical watches, but I would never use one as an actual dive watch. Quartz watches and later dive computers made them completely obsolete decades ago.

>>64820294
The other thing that's odd is how many people worship the brand name Rolex, yet it is my understanding that if you're actually a mechanical watch nerd they are nowhere near the pinnacle, either of expense/prestige or of mechanical design perfection.

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>>64820271
The particular "spec" is a little gaudy, but the overall design is what I'd almost call the golden standard for watches
Just switch to more muted colors and you get a watch that's legible, practical, and can be worn with virtually anything. Submariners are so popular because it's a "do everything" watch

>>64820328
Because it's the kind of luxury that the average person can still attain, while also being recognizable.
No one south of high 8 digit net worth is buying Pateks or Vacherons, and the average person doesn't know more obscure brands.
They know Rolex, Omega, Tudor, Breitling, and the other stuff they can neither pronounce nor afford

>>64820294
>>64820328
Rolex aren't the pinnacle of prestige. they're like a porche 911 in terms of luxury. Like a richfag thing and above a middle class item, but like there are cars that are way, way more richfag than a 911 and there are watches that are way more richfag than a rolex
also rolex pretty close to the peak in terms of mechanical operation. Like if you do the seconds per month drift or whatever Rolex are about the same or better than most quartz watches where as like a Seiko would be worse. but at the same time you could get basically the same performance out of a $15 quartz casio as a rolex because quartz works better than mechanical

>>64819089
Not bait

>>64820254
Now that's nice and tasteful

>>64820420
>"do everything" watch
I highly doubt the owners even check the time on it.

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>>64818123
You are telling me that Im sleeping on a goldmine?

>>64820450
>also rolex pretty close to the peak in terms of mechanical operation.
In terms of timekeeping accuracy, you might be right--I wouldn't know, personally. But correct me if I'm mistaken, Rolex isn't known for fancy or rare complications like minute repeaters the way that some high-end watch brands are. That's what I meant when I was talking about mechanical design.

>>64820857
idk. I just know they used to be tool watches because they are super good at accurately tracking time and were famous for how good they were at tracking time before quartz. But since quartz is so good compared to mechanical there's an extremely marginal improvement from a casio to a rolex if any improvement

>>64820857
They're awful timekeepers. Grand Seiko are better in every measurable way, but Rolexes are sold because people want to wear jewelry and don't much care about the watch internals.
Hell, for the same price, you can buy a chinese tourbillion watch that's at least interesting to look at.

>>64820443
>>64820450
^This.
The big appeal for rolex buyers is that they are recognizable as expensive stuff, it's all about flashing your wealth.

>>64821109
Grand Seikos, to my knowlege, mostly use Seiko's spring drive that combines quartz and mechanical operation, so they're more accurate than all mechanical watches by default

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As this thread has evolved to a cloc/k/ one. You poorfags must be shown the light.

>>64818153
Rolex's suck shit and only get by on their extreme brand recognition these days. There's dozens of high end watch manufacturers who make better, more impressive, and even more expensive watches than Rolex does. Oyster Perpetuals are something a guy who works at a used car dealership wears, or perhaps runs a pool cleaning business that has actual employees. They're genuinely tasteless these days, and only mark you out as being a prole.

I have a seiko 5 diver and my brother bought me a fake jeet seiko 5. I gotta sell my other watches since I only ever wear the seikos or a smart watch anyway and never wear the 5 other watches I have

>>64820450
>also rolex pretty close to the peak in terms of mechanical operation.
No.
Rolex are automated assembly line mass produced movements. 1mil+ per year produced.
Strong quality control, but the "superlative chronometer" is their own official stamp, i.e. it means nothing except what they say it does.
Nothing about them is "peak," just quality for what it is.
>>64821109
>Grand Seiko are better in every measurable way
Spring drive is gay and GS' only claim to fame are their dials.

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>>64818153
You will never not have disgusting negro pimp 'taste'.

>>64821680
I'd honestly rather have a chinkshit seagull tourbillion than a rolex, and for about the same price.

>>64820294
>>64820443
That was the point I was trying to make. Anyone who is actually diving is not going to fool with this nonsense, they're going to use a modern digital dive computer. And likewise, anyone with serious money, or who is a serious watch nerd, is going to skip right past Rolex and pick something more prestigious, or more niche and nerdy.

It's a bit like someone bragging about an OG colt Python. Sure, it's a nice gun: it's instantly recognizable, and it has not-insignificant collector value. But other guns offer better performance if you intend shoot with it, and if you want to start dick-measuring with richfag collector handguns it's barely a blip on the radar compared to, say, a set of Gastinne-Renette dueling pistols, some obscure Luger production variant, Something really exotic like a Schouboe or a Mars, or god help you a Colt Walker.

>>64823258
not interested.

>>64823258
>post a random google image of a watch to make a point
>"ACTUALLY I'M VEGAN"-style posters crawl out of the woodwork
I consider all consumers of conspicuous consumption goods to be equally contemptible

As someone who owns way too many watches, the only thing women give a shit about when it comes to watches is color and size and if it's from a recognizable luxury brand like rolex. out side of if the watch fits you and if the colors look good, it's one of those things where the only people you're impressing are other men. like I don't think I've ever seen a woman who knows or cares about quartz vs automatic, but chicks like when the face of your watch is blue

>why is this bespoke, hand-fitted gun made with equisite materials by a renowned luxury gun company so expensive????

>>64823618
depends on who you are trying to impress. rolex is impressive to foids, they only care about the brand if it's a luxury brand they know about. otherwise they only care what color it is and if it fits your wrist

>be rich
>want a nice watch because why not
>will only think about this for 5 minutes because not a watch nerd and have other things to do
>what watches are nice? oh I know, rolex
>call Rolex AD, only the blue and gold reference is available due to their fucky games
>shrug, don't actually care, buy it anyway
>wear it and never think about it again

This triggers watch fags like you wouldn't believe. How dare rich people care about watches less than I do?

>>64823896
>rich people
No new money fags, proles in other words.
The kind of "people" that have money but no taste so they buy the most gaudy flashy shit to show of their meager wealth, compared to the wealthy.

>>64823896
nearly all of my watches have blue faces

>>64818167
Actual rich people and wrist watch enjoyers don't buy Rolex, it's the brand of noveau riche browns.

>>64823896
Fake news.
If you were actually rich, you wouldn’t call Rolex and be stuck with whatever they have available. You’d have your people call their contacts to track down whatever model you wanted.

>>64824034
NTA but surely there are rich people who care about watches enough to do that and rich people who just get whatever and move on.

>>64823258
Damn that's nice, I'd love that. I like me some watches but I just can't break the big dollars out, I'm a seiko man probably most valuable is my alpinist (green).

>>64824034
"Rich" isn't a monolith, there are tiers
Some people can walk to a dealership and buy a brand new Ferrari in cash
Some people can walk to a dealership and buy the entire dealership in cash
That doesn't make the former "not rich"
A person who can afford a ten grand watch on a whim (and isn't financially retarded) is objectively rich

>>64824359
Vintage is the way. Cool, interesting, and less expensive.

People shit on Rolex (who will probably never be able to afford one) but the thing is, since they don't lose value, if you get one you haven't actually lost any money. Looping back to /k/, secret squirrel operators wear them as currency for a reason.

>>64824455
That is quite true, I could probably swing something for a few K but I just wouldn't feel safe wearing it all the time and couldn't have a just nice watch sit so long. Just me, if I could have anything I could afford in reality, I'd go for an older speedy pro just so cool.

All gun stuff seems to hold value over, I'm glad I was a poor fag and bought like 8 mosins in my early 20s for under a C note for most. Even factoring inflation I've made pretty good money on them way more on some of the nicer guns I got later on but I digress.

My big treat to myself when I got my MBA was a Ruger #1 and that's lost value in the 15 years I've had it.

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Watches are /k/ and you can't tell me otherwise.

>>64824470
Put a little into a watch fund every month, you'll have enough in no time.

>>64824512
Good call anon, I can swing it I'm just a cheap fuck.
Also Rolex and PSA lower you are a certified boss and my nigga. Shes a BEAUT!

I kick myself being cheap and not getting an air king when no one wanted them and could snag a fair condition for 800.

Watches are /k/ .

>>64823940
>Actual rich people and wrist watch enjoyers don't buy Rolex
They buy tons of them.
Rolex is still the default name for non-watchfags and there's a very dedicated community of richfags that collect the rare/limited releases (on top of other brands.)
Rolex is just a sportswatch brand, not high horology.
Sub or datejust is an everyday that you wear to the office, the store, dress casual, etc. and then put something brag worthy on for formal occassions, VC, Lange, Piaget, JLC, etc.

Not sure why rollie gets the hate, along with Omega they are both probably the easiest luxury brands to get into for availability/price.

>>64824455
>since they don't lose value, if you get one you haven't actually lost any money
Unless you are actually trading in watches that's just cope.
Not for rich people who can easily afford luxury items, but for people who can barely afford one and grasp for rationalizations.

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>>64824537
No, your thinking is the poorfag cope. Watch prices are tracked closely and anyone who knows even the tiniest thing about luxury watches knows that for high demand Rolexes, not only do you not lose money, you make money as soon as you walk out the door. When a dealer allots you a steel submariner, they're gifting you a couple grand.

>>64824533
>Rolex accounts for more than a third of the Swiss watch market all by itself, more than the next 5 brands combined
>No one is buying them

The fucking stupidity is real

>>64824587
>for high demand Rolexes
Ok, so pay out the ass to buy one from a thrid party and hope it stays in fashion, because otherwise the price is going to collapse back to list.
Sounds like a great investment.
And that's disregarding the wear and tear of daily use and what that's going to do to your resale value.
Keep coping..

>>64824455
>Looping back to /k/, secret squirrel operators wear them as currency for a reason.
Fantasy scenario the talkshow circuit guys came up with to sound cool.
Anybody in a position of power can just take it from you in that situation, or wait until you're dead or otherwise disposed of.
Anything less than that is not worth trying to bargain a piece of jewelry for, or be wearing any jewelry that draws attention in a place like that at all.
>>64824587
>not only do you not lose money
You lost money when you paid grey market for that cosmo lol.
>they're gifting you a couple grand.
Easy big spender, that's enough to cover the sales tax.

>>64824470
>My big treat to myself when I got my MBA was a Ruger #1 and that's lost value in the 15 years I've had it.
Why? I thought those things were sought after

>>64824637
>You lost money when you paid grey market for that cosmo
only a little, which i'm fine with. it's a toy, and compared to my other toys it retains WAY more of its value.
>Easy big spender, that's enough to cover the sales tax.
free money is free money. not many physical products get more valuable after you buy them at the store. this is a stupid argument anyway, the point is they don't depreciate like other things.

>>64824629
>and hope it stays in fashion
unless you get something really gawdy, watch fashion hasn't changed in like half a century
>And that's disregarding the wear and tear of daily use and what that's going to do to your resale value.
I don't own a rolex and I don't really want to buy one, but there are some absolutely jacked to hell and back rolexes from the 50s and 60s that are worth a ton despite the fact they are so shat up you can't read the time off them

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>>64824512
>chrono
>no flyback
Might as well be a paperweight.

>>64823896
>>64824034
"Prestige" and "collecting" are intentionally tiered to harvest money from every income class. There's luxury for poorfags, luxury for 100k per year engineers, and luxury for tens of millions in the bank richfags. Every single one of these wealth classes has tiered "achievements" that are just barely in reach so you can gloat about your money discreetly to other people who are in the know. Arguing about the utility of watches is entirely besides the point.

>>64824882
Probably due to cal, I have 416 Rigby that's been surplanted by 416 Ruger also I dunno why I just felt a falling block big game gun was the thing to have as a reward. But 20 buck ammo etc, it's just not really wanted I guess. It's okay it means a lot to me.

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I just bought a $50 400m Vostok submariner from a corpse looting uke motherfucker.
kek

>>64825579
That's super dope anon.

>>64825589
I see em $120 in this condition with the light wear, $140 for a little better. But all because this thread made me think "I wonder if there is a cheap one out there somehow...".
Telegram link to ebay seller, boom.

>>64825591
This might be the funniest fuckin thing I own.
But the most grim is the "Bloody Thursday" hungarian revolt hat pin that has the stamp for the press-gang units and actual blood stains.

>>64825546
oh, you're that guy. It's because .416 is a meme round in a single rifle. No one uses .416 to hunt in the US and most dangerous game rifles are going to either be bolt action repeaters so you can get more than 1 shot off or they are going to be double barrel so you can get a second shot off quickly. a single barrel dangerous game rifle just feels unsafe to me. Like if you're hunting durr a single shot falling block would be fine, maybe even for buffalo, but I don't think .416 rigby is known for being a long range round

>>64825579
>>64825589
I have one of those or a similar commie model. I should sell it since I never wear it since I have a seiko that I like better. honestly I have like 4 watches that I should sell but I don't think any of them remotely held their value, not that they were very expensive outside of one of them

>>64825579
>>64825589
>>64825591
>>64825629
>yuro thirdies think it's cool to own shit stolen off corpses
I have a german WWI helmet that was probably taken off one of those child yurosoldiers. but it has like marker or paint or something on it talking about some major yuro surrender and if you look it American troops basically made the yuros make a pile out of their stuff so Americans soldiers could bring back souvenirs. So the yuro in question likely capitulated and survived the war

>>64826478
A Ruger #1 is cope for someone who wants, but cannot afford, a vintage Farquharson rifle.

>but I don't think .416 rigby is known for being a long range round
It's not, but it is suitable for longer range use than the big bruisers like .500 or .577 Express. With the proper bullet selection you could use it on larger plains game. That said they make the #1 in all sorts of calibers, from stuff like .22 Hornet up to dangerous game cartridges like the .416 Rigby, .450 Nitro Express, etc.

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>>64818153
Raped by Omega

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>>64826478
Poorfag spotted. You’re supposed to have a guide with a Mauser rifle in case you miss.

>>64826970
What's the second crown for? My seiko diver only has one crown and I can set the time, day and date on it

>>64827022
>guide with a Mauser rifle
What sort of a 3rd-rate PH has a bolt action?

>>64827030
>What's the second crown for?
Adjusting tension on the jib halyard

>>64827022
PH guides carry doubles, retardo
>>64827036
nah

>>64827030
It’s a helium escape valve.

>>64826970
looks identical

>>64823258
Ugly. Covered in chicken scratches.

>>64827070
It looks like something Pee-Wee Herman would wear.

>>64827030
Helium escape

>>64827060
>>64828730
How does the helium keep getting in such that it needs frequent venting? Why is the venting not automatic?

>>64828749
It’s useless for the 99.9% of people who aren’t saturation divers.

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i like whatever this is

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>>64826970
no penis shit. cool watches are cool. omegas, rolexes, and more. gun+watch=kino

>>64824512
baller watch, meh gun. i'll allow it.

>>64828980
So the helium diffuses through the seals while the diver is in the saturation chamber? That doesn't explain why the venting is manual rather than automatic.

>>64826478
I legit said I just wanted it because I did.
OH! it won't be great on a safari I don't intend to go on.
Cope more poor.

>>64830337
a fool and his money are easily parted

>>64830325
Don’t ask me, ask the designers.

>>64830325
Venting is an automatic check valve. Helium seeps in because it is a very small atom. Hydrogen is even worse, as it can get through materials. It does not need gaps.

>>64818123
Just buy the Ruger No. 1.

>>64833283
that one is in 20 gauge. the ruger ones arent
>>64832532
I think Helium is smaller than Hydrogen since hydrogen is diatomic and helium exists by itself