so is it legal to make a SBS in texas now? gun shop fudd was telling me a few months ago that in january itll be legal to make one without a tax stamp. googling anything about gun laws is always as vague as possibly, on purpose i bet.
You still need a stamp, but they're $0 now
>>64832668you still need a tax stamp, it's just free.
>>64832691>>64832695thanks
>>64832668If you assemble the SBR yourself the form 1 is super easy to do and takes like five minutes on silencershop.If you buy an SBR prebuilt then it becomes a form 4 just like a suppressor and has to sit in your gun store for months and months until the ATF can get the current backlog unfucked. If it's your first tax stamp you ain't seeing that shit till the spring, there's over 2,000,000 form 4 applications since Jan 1st
>>64832725im just trying to saw my double barrel down desu.
>>64832738Then do it
If you are engaging in interstate commerce, you will need to follow the federal regulation and get a stamp.If the gun will be made in Texas and remain in Texas, you are bound only by Texas state law.
>>64832668SBS/SBR laws aren't real. buncha fags ITT
>>64832668>>64833302I hate SBS/SBR vs suppressor transport restrictions. Wanna go across state lines with your suppressor? As long as it's legal in that state. SBR/SBS? WHERE YOU GOING?! GOR HOW LONG?! FILL OUT THESE FORMS OR TO THE BUTTFUCK HOUSE WITH YOU!
>>64833302>you are bound only by Texas state law.This is still theoretical; the Texas in-state suppressor manufacture bill, while it passed, still needs to be tested in Federal court. The bill pretty much said Texas will not prosecute you, but it doesn't protect the ATF from trying to rape you.
>>64832668SEX (with mentally ill redheads)
>>64832668Legal under state law, illegal under federal, you'll be taking your chances
>>64834496Kansas has a similar law and it didn't stop these guys from getting fucked by the feds. https://apnews.com/general-news-91541e86b9894ef28db49c75c52c3461
>>64833302>Surely the courts will uphold the Constitution and not just piss all over it!Sorry anon, that ship sailed long ago. The only chance you have of arguing that the NFA doesn't apply to you is if you have never ever filled out an ATF form including the 4473. Even then they'll come shoot your dog, and possibly shoot you as well so you can't rape them in court afterward.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburnhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raichhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Stewart_(2003)
>>64834784The Kansas law was originally written so that federal agents trying to enforce the NFA within Kansas would be breaking state law, but they cucked out and removed that section so it doesn't do anything. I'm not familiar with the Texas law, is it the same as the Kansas one or did they ban federal enforcement?
>>64832712you need to prove to the federal government that you paid $0.00 or else you will be fined $250,000texas government does not care
>>64834496Yeah, but if you're just making it for personal use then the only way you get on the feds radar is by referral from local police.
>>64832668It's always been legal because the NFA has always been unconstitutional.
>>64832668No, and for the last time, state law does not overrule federal law. Some retards in Mississippi were convicted under a similar state statute.
>>64832725>months and months24hr to a few days now
>>64833302>erm actually sweaty the matter in your state originated at the center of the universe during the big bang so it qualifies as interstate commercet. US Supreme Court
>>64835140Batfag field agents don't go trolling around looking for violations, they spend most of their time dealing with FFLs and tips, or entrapment cases. If you're not selling untaxed title 2 firearms, then the only likely way you will be caught is local police catching them for something else you've done and forwarding the tax evasion charge to the local batfag field office. If local LEO aren't supposed to do that, they won't, and you won't get caught unless someone reports you to the batfags, or the feds are looking to jam you up (in which case they'd just manufacture a charge anyway). Also, I've had unregistered title 2 firearms siezed from me twice by the batfags and both times they declined to prosecute, likely because I have a clean record and there was no other charge. They only seem to like charging nfa cases when they're attached to other criminal charges. YMMV, but I dont file 4473s, form 1s, or form 4s and I'm still a free man.
>>64832738You can legally saw it down to something like 18" with no paperwork. Length is measured from inside the barrel, so use a marked dowel rod or something like that, and it's probably safer to leave an extra half inch just to be certain that nobody can come after you over it.Anything shorter, and yeah, what these guys said.
>>64835493Who are the batfags?
>>64835493>Also, I've had unregistered title 2 firearms siezed from me twice by the batfags and both times they declined to prosecute
>>64834538post that pic anon, you know the one
>>64832668always has beenSHALL NOT BE INFRINGEDany and all gun legislation is unconstitutional
>>64833302look up WIckard v Filburn, this isn't true>>64834496>>64834784>>64834809it's the same situation in Minneapolis with ICE and BP, if you attract the attention of Feds they don't need the cooperation of the states to fuck you up, but they're much less likely to find you without the cooperation of the state
>>64835948Bureau of Alchohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives >> BATFE >> BATFags >> Batfags. calling them batfags is both an insult (faggots) and a dismissal of the idea that they're a real three letter agency.
>>64838730Oh those guys yeah their a pain in the ass.
>>64838730Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms AGent, it works on so many levels.
>>64838683>wickard v. FilburnI really hope all 9 of those justices are rotting in hell right now. Our entire legal system is just pilpul to get around the constitution.
