Previous: >>64785432What are FRTs:Forced Reset Triggers (FRTs) are firearm modifications that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire more rapidly by automatically resetting the trigger after each shot, while still requiring a trigger pull for each round. They increase the rate of fire without converting the firearm into a fully automatic weapon.AR-15 is the most ubiquitous platform with the most amount of options. Other platforms have other nuances.How it works:https://youtu.be/KIxsnh2fFTo (embed)See it action:https://youtube.com/@juiceymedia1https://youtube.com/@poorboyarmshttps://youtube.com/@printshootrepeatDistributors:https://pastebin.com/WPdrbYKy (embed)Non comprehensive list of platforms that have released FRT/Super Safety support or is confirmed to be in development:https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.htmlRecent News:Hoffman is being sued by Rarebreed.3 round burst system released by Stuff and Things Inc; super safety/ARC compatible.ASDesigns announced a V2 ARC which allows for 45 degree selectors and more selector styles in general such as HK and B&T styles.
Atrius is confirmed for khalash bash this year, I wonder if they will release something for the AK. I swear if they just show up with a AR platform chambered in 7.62x39 I will scream.
>3 round burst in devI just want something as close as a 4 pos MP5 as I can get without paying the price of a new car
Waiting on quality three position AK FRT that doesn't bind upWaiting on drop in roller gun FRT SS pack
>>64835963So there's no good ones for the ak yet? Im interested in it but i would only really want to put one on one of my AKs
shoutout to the anon who updated the github list. looks good brah
>>64835969Not as far as I'm aware. I spent a fair bit of time and effort trying to get a three position setup to working used the machined style AK FRT kit like this one, plus a mil spec surplus trigger, and I also tried with an ALG AKT, and I couldn't get it to run reliably without feathering the trigger which IMO doesn't count. That faggot Kiloguns is charging $550 for $100 of parts and maybe at most an hour of labor per install, and his shit binds up under hard trigger finger pressure and he claims that it must do so otherwise it is le real ebin machine gun. Retard. Anyway, yeah as far as I'm aware there isn't a good three position AK FRT SS yet. I'll be surprised if the Atrius product, which I assume is an AK FRT SS three position system, doesn't basically come as a complete FCG with cam. The issue I ran in to is that you need the right clearances between cam reset ramp profile, main trigger hook, and disconnector. https://combatarmory.com/ak-super-safety-d2-steel-kit-for-ak-47-active-reset-trigger-for-ar47-frt/https://streamable.com/ctps76
BoompAnyone else having some hiccups with their C.A.R.L? Mine likes to fail to feed after each burst
>>64836021Well for starters your trigger spring coil has wandered off to the side and is preventing the leg of the hammer spring from resting on the trigger pin.
Did the JAKL bullpup guy ever get the SS to work?
Would it be possible to put something like that on an MP40 clone?
>>64836055I am aware
>>64836125Then fix it, dip shit. Maybe, just maybe, springs being in their proper fucking order might fix your little booboo.
>>64836172 I fixed it before the problems started, you absolutely useless twat
hey there i need some advice, recently a relative told me they were interested in buying 2-3 ar-15s and getting a FRT for each and asked me to look into it cause i like guns . I'm not really experienced in what to look for I've mainly bought milsurp bolt actions and haven't messed around with anything more then my chinese sks. anyone got some good choices to buy? (price is not an issue)
>>64836001thanks man
>>64836323You are spoiled for choice for the AR15 platform, check out the the list in the OP for options, but it all comes down to if you want a lever, if you are okay with milspec triggers or not, if your lower has a low shelf, etc...
>>64836323the partisan FRT would probably work best for you
>>64836082I have not but I haven't had a whole lot of time to play with it. My original SS was causing it to bind up so I tossed in a DTT and it would hand function. When I went to test it out I only had a few rounds of subsonic, it was -5, and I forgot my ear pro as I was trying to get out before the snow came and forgot to test different gas settings for the supers.. Right now I've got a arc in with a g$ sd3g with a flat trigger that sits further forward.
>>64836832will a partisan trigger work on a M&P 15 sport 3?
>>64836948likely yeah since the shelf doesnt matter on that. If it has a colt cuck pocket then your only option aside from using a dremel is to use a AZ regulator which is also 3 position.
>>64836289>no proof offered>pic shows contrarySure ou did.
My glock 34 gen 3 suppressed with a FRT runs pretty well. Not practical at all really but fun. Will get the p320 FRT when it releases as I love the idea of a FRT in a Flux Raider.
looks like there is movement on the Vz61 frt in the original lower
I got a zf5 super safety from as designs, anyone know the easiest/cheapest way of converting it to arc fire?
>>64837543what do you mean? just take the super safety out and replace it with a ARC fire
In all honesty, if I bought an frt for a Glock (or anything for that matter) would the government knock at my door?I think that’s the only thing that scares me about it with just how wishy washy the ATF is regarding this stuff.
>>64837553Currently all FRTs are legal federally including handguns although some people say that the FRT legality was only for rifles which I personally do not believe. Let's say in the future they are illegal, they would just come to your door and ask for what you have like the previous rarebreed fiasco and that's it really
>>64837560>Currently all FRTs are legal federally including handguns although some people say that the FRT legality was only for rifles which I personally do not believe.I'm seeing a lot of this in the FRT world. I asked AS Designs at SHOT show about handgun FRT's and everyone at the booth said "fuck no" in unison. they then went on a talk about the rarebreed settlement, even though nobody but rare breed agreed to the settlement. idk what their lawyers tell them.they told me "we dont need no ATF letters fuck the government" yet put their legs between their pants for pistols. it would be funny if it wasnt so sad.
>>64837610I guess it's more of an optics thing
>>64837610>put their legs between their pantsWtf?
Why would anyone make a 320 FRT? Why not 365?
>>64837652320 would be easier to control than a 365, why would you want it in a 365?
>>64837654He probably has a 365, don't you think?
>>64837662probably but the question was, why would ANYONE make a frt for the 320, not something like, why not ALSO for the 365
>>64837654365 has a Flux and is less likely to UD
>>64837673>FluxThere it is.
>>64837652>>64837667even with all the UD issues and lack of confidence, the P320 still has hundreds of thousands of units in circulation that nobody is going to throw away in the trash wholesale. The government might but that's a different beast, they would probably just sell them for parts. People who bought their $500 compact or $1000+ legion aren't going to destroy them to make a point. Either people will sell them for a loss or keep them in a safe and only fire at the range or never touch again. Millions of dollars of practically brand new hardware isn't going to evaporate overnight.An FRT gives people an 'out' for the pistol. Turn it into a range toy for fun if they want to. Plus with police departments selling off their stock there's more cheap guns/parts flooding the market, which causes more people to see the P320 as a fun little thing to shoot trash with. Even without the Flux and similar chassis there's still a reasonable niche an FRT can offer. An FRT wont save the P320 but it could give a soft landing for some people.
>>64837717this, I dont even have a 320 and wasnt on the radar for me until the FRT was announced
>>64837560>Let's say in the future they are illegal, they would just come to your door and ask for what you have like the previous rarebreed fiasco and that's it reallyI’m not aware of this whole thing.Like do you just ask if they have a warrant and if no, don’t talk to them or open the door?>>64837610So pistols are a no?
>>64837188Thank fucking god
>>64837560>Currently all FRTs are legal federally including handguns although some people say that the FRT legality was only for rifles which I personally do not believethe rare breed settlement specifically excludes handgun frts
>>64838873it resets every round fired, I dont care
>>64838834>Like do you just ask if they have a warrant and if no, don’t talk to them or open the door?it wouldnt be an arrest so there wouldnt be a warrant, they would just know you have it and will confiscate it or ask you for it like before.
>>64838873That's just their agreement with rarebreed. They're saying they will drop the case and not pursue further legal action if rarebreed follows those conditions. Batfags v. Raregreed did nothing to establish the legality of FRTs or offer any protections to other manufacturers. It sounds like other manufacturers are following batfags requests of raregreed in the mistaken hope that it affords them some kind of protection from litigation.
>>64838873Yes, but in order to do anything about handgun FRTs, the ATF would have to make the claim that an FRT is a machine gun and that they gave Rare Breed a free pass to manufacture illegal machine guns. That wouldn't end well for them.
>>64839081>they would just know you have it and will confiscate it or ask you for it like before.Oh that thing? I wasn't really happy with how it worked so I sold it to some dude, can't recall the name.
>>64835486>Hoffman is being sued by Rarebreed.I used his yt link to donate a littleAbolish IP, rarebreed can get fucked
>>64839201isnt it past your bedtime tim?>Abolish IPwhen will lolbertarians stop being retarded?
>>64839201>Abolish IPHow do you think business works?
God damn when is FFT getting their ATF letter? Been foreverhttps://youtu.be/tZe7XDjfsxk
$2300>eewww, so longCut the barrel, add FRT, pussy. It's a real HK.
>>64841010funny enough juicy media made a video on thishttps://youtu.be/Vkji6JOqNwc
>>64841018It's $1400 off msrp. Literally begging to be SBR'd.
>>64841010id this is 16in long barrel, why is there a brace?
>>64841133To be cut down? I would just put a fixed A2 HK stock on it, like the old HK 94s.
>>64835486The Kabuto/saikou are a little too auto-seary for my liking. I know they function the same, but I can't imagine anyone seeing that and not fucking you over.>>64841010I wish more companies would just do a dummy barrel extension "permanently" attached. So no rifling to fuck up, at most maybe you need to thread it to your specifications. The creative workarounds for retarded/poorly written laws are great though. i miss when sig was based and made their "muzzle brakes" for the mpx.
>>64841246>creative workaroundsMy best was the TacSol SBX bbl, before they caught on and increased the price. Yrs ago it saved $200. Now, TacSol seems to have reduced the price. Still very lightwieght and accurate.
more footage of the ARHK, 3 position drop in FRT for HK platform
Asked a while ago, but has there been any update on an ACR FRT? I can't find any info on it so I'm guessing its a no
>>64841674no new information as far as I know
>>64835486Has anyone seen this video from GForce Arms that demonstrates an FRT in their gun?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EFJ-c69vcI know their not a huge manufacturer/importer, but it's pretty interesting to see a manufacturer/importer demonstrate FRTs in their guns officially. Makes me think that firearms being equipped with FRTs from the factory is maybe not terribly far away, at least not with smaller operations like GForce.
>>64841246>i miss when sig was based and made their "muzzle brakes" for the mpxThat was the batfags calling shenanigans. Suppressors are extra fucky because the statute was actually amended to define parts as being title 2 firearms as well, vs every other title 2 firearm only being regulated when fully assembled and functional. Constructive possession for MGs, DDs, AOWs, SBRs, and SBSs is a matter of caselaw and interpretation so it's easier to get around.
>>64836848What bullpup kit are you using?
>>64842203yeah that is interesting, some companies are pre installing them now
>>64842847Really? Can you show examples, I'm curious what's different from the sig mpx "muzzle break".
>>64842461A3 industries triad.
>>64843316JAKL's have historic issues with subs, you have success with supers and FRT use?
>>64839201>abolish IPI am so tired of lolberts
>>64843537I do, I might try going out tomorrow to try again. Last time i took it out everything went wrong forgot ear pro it was cold, and was in a rush. I also noticed the screws holding the barrel were loose and I could physically move the barrel around. Now everything's tightened up. As far as subs I haven't had any issue running subs in semi auto, but I found another box of subs and have plenty of supers to test
>>64844768Wear your mittens.
it's wild that FRTs for AR10s are rare, I know that GMR has a kit that works for specific patterns and I know there is not a milspec but at least DPMS Gen 1 support should be more wild spread
Prototype frt for a sks with texas trigger usa
>>64841511Waow (based based based based based based based)
>>64841511Have they given out an eta and pricing?
>>64835486Is the Arizona Regulator currently the best option for an M16 clone?
>>64845417Directly from the owner>It won't be crazy expensive (but everyone has varying views on what that is). But people have to keep in mind all of the parts inside are custom except the ejector lever. So it's not off the shelf stuff that we can get from a normal OEM, custom trigger, hammer, ARC parts, selectors, disconnector, trip parts, etc. All custom. It's not a factory pack with a couple parts added/replaced, it's a ground up redesign. We also don't believe in "HK type part = more expensive", so there's no HK tax or anything.>We're not giving pricing yet until we have all the parts fully in production and we know what actual costs will be (labor is gonna be a part of it as these are way harder to put together than an AR style lower). Unless you want a metal printed (DMLS) version, that's like $4K for the prototype, lol.Some say around 500 because the g3 people that their order cancelled was going to get like 250 back
>>64845589M16A1 and M16A3 sure because those were full auto, you also have the option to use kabuto style drop in FRTs, those allow M16 selectors with some fitting iirc. I'm not sure there is a non ambi version of the regulator
>>64841511drop in trigger in AP53
First footage I think I've seen with the 3 round burst CARL in a MP5https://youtu.be/nbaqL5s-X6A?t=154
>>64845904Surely, this is compatible with G3/91?
>>64845948It is, yeah
>>64845948>>64845904>>64841511Information regarding beltfeds>Has it been tested on an HK21E/hk23e?>No, 21 will be tested shortly, then we'll have to send off a test unit to our associate to test 21E (just in case) and 23E since we don't exactly have those laying around.
>>64841511>ARHK, 3 position drop in FRT for HK platform>>64845904>drop in trigger in AP53>>64845948>compatible with G3/91>>64845950>It is, yeahSo is there a website for this wonder gadet?
>>64846077it's by asdesigns, it's not out yet. Said to be in a couple of months
Anyone tried that Beretta 92 FRT yet? Curious how well it works.
Took my jakl bulpup out for testing and think I am narrowing down what I need to do to get it to work. I would get hammer follow on SS mode, but I found out if i shoved a stick through the side opening that has access to the regular trigger and not the bullpup trigger I could get SS mode to work just fine. Making me think that the linkage might be heavy enough to cause drag on the BCG causing the hammer to release before it fully closes. I think if I toy with the linkage distance to the trigger I might be able to find a sweet spot where its just barely enough for the bullpup trigger to fire, but not so much that it puts too much excess weight on the trigger/ss and cause the hammer follow.
>>64845177Is it selectable or FRT only?
So who's actually developing that 320 trigger? I want to keep up with that
>>64847170Not sure yet, if I could guess, it's FRT only
>>64846998damn, pretty neat. I hope you get it running well
>>64846985seem to work well according to fps kenny's videohttps://youtu.be/-v75QmQbrUwiirc though, it doesnt work on the single action versions
bump
More SKS FRT footagehttps://youtu.be/wPeRfZj3eTw
>>64849940>not on website
>>64850007what do you mean? It's not available yet, they are just testing it
>>64837066>>648377212nding>>64847796Previously an anon told me it was duality arms but I can't find a single mention of that anywhere(might be jewgle shenanigans) and have been keeping an eye out for the last 4 months or so
>>64850052There are two separate groups working on the p320 frt. Duality Arms Co mentioned it on instagram in the comments on one of their posts and the other is an anon that was in the thread that actually posted footage and gave detailed information about it
>>64850069>>64850052
>>64848549IMHO, considering it has bottom metal and a flag safety, they'd have to use the flag safety, or something like a push button adapted for the flag safety's location.The Norinco Para's and the SKS-D's would really profit from a FRT
>>64850040Doesn't matter, I want it now.
>>64845990THE real question is would PTR build a HK21. They have the tooling from Portugal, I imagine the belt feed module isn't easy though
>>64850505yeah I feel ya
>>64837546Wasn't sure if I could just replace part of the trigger or it had to be the entire thing
>>64851026no, just take out the super safety and replace it with the ARC
>>64850090btw, I was trying to find this post, but it looks like they took it down? or maybe it was a story
looks like Frankenstein Armory has taken up the mantel of making a trip for the LWRC SMG 45. Good to see movement on thishttps://frankensteinarmory.com/products/frankenstein-tsb-smgThis footage was from a guy that was designing the trip himself, however ran into a ton of issues so technically the footage is not of the trip, but you get the idea.Footage w/ sound: https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/LWRC-SMG45.mp4
Getting impatient with FN Specialties...
>>64853565I wish there was a time frame, I agree. At least for me I bought it now even though I didnt have the gun yet
>ordered frt on 12 jan from WOT>payed with btc>heard absolutely nothing from them>mfwis shit normally this slow or have they fucked me
>>64853601bro I don't even think WOT is making triggers anymore, you got super scammed. Especially paying with BTC or any crypto. I hope this was a fake post and not a clown from behind the screen.
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>>64853601kek. peak retard
>>64853601Please say sike lmao
>>64853483Would be nice if the gun wasn't discontinued and $3k used
>>64837610Why? Whats wrong with a pistol FRT?
>>64854137good for people that has one I guess like any of the belt fed FRTs
>>64853601lmao bro the first like 5 "FRT" results on google are scam sites
PROTOTYPE 4 POSITION IN DEVELOPMENThttps://youtu.be/VJNGX7ZoB3Ahttps://odysee.com/@Stealth_The_Unknown:7/LARK-Kaboodle:3Works from the kabuto design, pretty neat
>>64854691The owner of ASDesigns also hinted at it on a reddit post as wellReally exciting stuff happening
