Talk about .22 don't care what it is from single shot bolt guns to illegal full auto buckmarks as long as it shoots .22.22LR really is one of the best cartridges out there. A lot of people here seem to be focused too much on "defensive" shooting.I think everyone should own a .22 and really learn fundamentals of shooting, the low price of the ammo and firearms makes the barrier of entry so low there's really 0 reason to not shoot one. For the price of 100-200 rounds of 9mm you could buy over a thousand rounds of .22 for the price of a basic 9mm handgun you could have a nice .22 or multiple cheap .22's.For anyone who thinks .22 is too pussy or whatever, first off it's just as capable of killing someone as any other cartridge even if it may not be as effective. Secondly if you can nail a bullseye from 25 yards with a .22 one handed, when you go to blow someone away at 7 yards with both hands you will be able to put every shot exactly where you want because you learned proper sight alignment and trigger control.TL;DR buy a .22, shoot more, discuss
>>64840801It's not a bad defensive round either
I’ll buy a TX-22 this year..(hopefully). The deals for multiple mags and an OR cut sell out so fast
i'm kind of keen on the new Beretta B22. i had considered getting a new Ruger Mk4 and plopping down a few hundred in upgrades, but now i want to see what the B22 is like.
>>64841079Looks like a Star Wars prop.
>>64840801I love my Mark 4 22/45. It's a great practicing tool and is very accurate. I try to shoot at least twice per month and since I have like 14,000 rounds of .22lr I can do that pretty easily and cheaply with my sweet little .22>>64840875retard
>>64841079Ass gun
Sparrow got approved on Monday, picking it up Saturday. Should really get some subs.
>>64841079I don't like that it's really expensive but it LOOKS really cheap. Like the web of the hand area looks like a worse version of a Hi Point. Why couldn't they figure out how to make the grip ovoid in circumference like every other pistol made for human hands instead of 2x4? Even a Glock has softer edges than that grip.
*misfires*
Gonna buy a S&W 22X tomorrow. I'm interested to see how it stacks up to my TX22
>>64841817How many .22s do you have? Fewer than 9mms I expect from years of seeing your pics.
>>64841839idk high 20s, 30 maybe not including kitsLuv me twennytoo, simple as.
>>64841079Too bad they stuck with the same 15rd mags used by their M9-22 and other Umarex 22 handguns (FN 502 under the plastic shell). Higher capacity would have been great.And it's a shame they're partnering with [[[TANDENKROSS]]] and their putting their ugly parts and faggy logo on some of the guns.
>>64841873I don't see the capacity as much of an issue with a 22. It's a plinker, not a carry or home defense gun, 10 rounds? fine. 15? Great. I'm changing targets after a few mags either way, not a big deal to reload them.
.22s are life
>>64841817Interested to hear back about this one. I wanted to like the P322 but no matter how carefully I load the mags, it either fails to pick up the next round or jams feeding a round. Only the 10rd mags work reliably. May as well shoot my Mark IV if that's the case.I want to buy a TX22 Comp but all the FRT fags have driven the prices up, when they're even in stock. I just want one to actually shoot in comps!
Kinda curious about the tanfoglio, I havent heard anything bad about them
>>64841745I'm loving my CCI 1050 40gr, if only any game would be in the area. Quiet and absurdly quiet feet away from the gun. Not sure what it sounds like downrange. 850s are also good. Think I already said that to you in another thread though lol.
>>64841745Oh also double check that front sight doesn't overhang the flat front face of the barrel behind the threads. Had one that did, one that didn't. Should be able to feel it with a fingernail if so. Doubt you need an alignment/concentricity checking rod to notice. Also should be able to screw the silencer on and shine light on the left and look through the right. Shouldn't see a gap at the base of the silencer, might in front of the front sight.
why wont ruger make a bolt actoin charger. with 0$ tax stampt I want a cheapish bolt cation .22 that takes ruger 10/22 mags with a short barrel.
I really want a Walther TPH. I almost had a blued German model for $400 at an online auction but was at a family get together and got distracted in the last few seconds. I got a knockoff of it, an Iver Johnson TP-22. It's a neat range toy but it feels cheap (zamak) and can't get through a full mag without jamming.
I built out a tippman M4-22 as a M4A1 Block 1, TA01 NSN, M4 RAS and all. IDK just got too deep into it and had to go the full distance I guess. At this point I probably know more about the M4-22 than anyone but the manufacturer.
>>64841879I put a 2x scope on a railed buckmark. Wish I lived in a free state, it would rock hard with a suppressor.
Why is S&B 22lr so ass
If you could only have ONE .22 rifle for life, what would it be?
>>64842116That's a crazy deal but surely it didn't actually end that cheap? Those things are like $1,600Anyway you can get a US made one around that. They have a substandard reputation but the ~hundred rounds I put through mine were faultless. Little as that is I have .22s that can't even manage that
>>64842260Yep, it went for like $400. It was in some higher-end auction house based out of Florida that mostly did fancy art pieces and antique furniture. I don't have any pictures of it saved from the auction itself but I do believe the markings indicated a German pistol. I'm not dead set on a German one in particular, I just think a neat little brother to my PPK/S would be fun.
>>64840801I really want a Woodsman 2nd Series Match Target to scratch an /ak/ 'tism, plus 22 is just plain fun. Standard Manufacturing makes a clone of the regular 2nd Series Woodsman, which is really cool but it's just not a Match Target. But at least Woodsman are far easier to find than Wolverines.
>>64840801lol
>>64840801Where can I buy Aguila Super Colibri .22 LR?The last place I bought these rounds from, I bought the last 4 boxes they had, and they vender is no longer in business.
>>64843309At this point shouldn't you just be shooting an air gun?
>>64840801.22L is great. Unfortunately federal automatch, my preferred cheap plinking round, seems to have become harder to get at a decent price.Should I step down to remington and winchester or do I need to just eat the cost of stepping up to CCI?
I have 3: T1X(suppressed, grs stock), 10/22 and a TOZ. What next?
>>64843309Last time I couldn't find any, I found a vendor on here who had some.https://www.shootingbot.com/search?s=colibriBut everybody's out now. Gotta wait for another batch I guess? Or pay absurd money from one of the few vendors who have single boxes leftSorry I couldn't help more, but at least this is another aggregator you can check from time to time. In the mean time you can find CCI CB Caps and CCI Quiet, the lower velocity version at 710 FPS. It's not quite the same but it's the next best thing and they're available
>>64843684Im looking for the 400fps variety. Those are completely silent, slow enough for you to see the bullet travel, and they even bounce off soft targets. I actually caught a bullet flying back at me from the target.I think I paid like $18 per box. They are very overpriced The 710 fps are still a bit loud even out of a 20" barrel. Anyway. Fun to shoot in my backyard without earpro or alerting my neighbors
>>64841662.22lr is not a great defensive option. On a scald of all the mainstream cartridges it’s probably the worst. But on a scale of defensive weapons as a whole it’s not bad.
>>64843309IIRC Aguila's specialty ammo (anything other than regular supers and regular subs) is on hold until their new facility is built. I have no clue why they did that and I'm not sure when or if it's complete yet but if you can't find it through even Ammoseek with filters then there's your answer. Until then it's stalking flea markets and local gun auctions hoping no one else knows.
>>64843684CCI CB 710s are oddly loud as FUCK for some reason IME. Might have gotten a bad batch, maybe they don't seal or something. Maybe it was temperature. No clue. But even with a silencer or long barrel they were pretty bad. Like, I'd rather shoot subsonic 22 out of a 10/22 without earpro or a silencer loud.
>>64843853I haven't bought those in many years, still have some boxes of the old dark blue design with no listed FPS and those are pretty quiet out of a 20" lever, not Colibri quiet but doesn't hurt my ears. Maybe they changed? The ones I have are .22 Long, not Long Rifle, maybe that makes a difference? Though the new CB varieties are all marked 710 FPS so idk
>>64843853Shorts are a lot quieter.
>>64843325Anon might not have an air gun but might still have a need for airgun tier power, for example : tiny varmints that made it into the house.Alternatively : it is just goddamn hilarious to shoot. First time I ever shot Super Colibri I thought I had a squib it was so quiet. Double alternatively : I can see it as a choice for baby's very first shooting experience. No report to spook 'em. And even if they do something dangerous with it, it is substantially less dangerous because the round is so low powered.
>>64843445Get yourself a lever or pump action 22. No more fun to be had in a plinking gun IMO.
>>64840801I kind of want to buy this just because it's cool.https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/modern-sporting-rifles/mauser-rimfire-stg-44-22-long-rifle-165in-blued-semi-automatic-modern-sporting-rifle-251-rounds/p/1787609
>>64841765more like failure to feed
>>64840801I like shooting .22 until I get to the range and realize I have to spend 90% of the time reloading.
>>64844893No one makes a BX-15/BX-25 speedloader and I wish some motherfucker would already. Between loading and shooting a silenced 10/22, my thumb turns fucking black by the end of the day. Started wearing some thin knit/rubber dip mechanics gloves because of it.
>>64844893There's an app for that
I WANT a Model 52 Sporter
>>64844893These things never load right, I might as well load by hand
My first ever gun as a child was a child size single shot .22lr rifle, it was great for learning how to use a rifle and learning basic gun safety. It was child sized so as soon as I hit puberty it quickly started feeling too small for me and my dad sold it at a pawn shop to put towards a shotgun for me to learn how to bird hunt with.These days I have two .22lr/.22wmr revolvers that I go out to the range with on a weekly basis. Mostly been using Remington rounds for it but was given a box of Federal rounds that I went thru too, I may have just gotten a particularly bad box of Federal but around 30% of the rounds in the box made this sad little farty noise instead of the expected bang and made less of an impact on my targets than the rest.
>>64840801Whats the cheapest ammo I can get thats not gonna jam my 10/22 every other round?
>>64848550CCI tactical 40 grain copper plated, ran flawless in my TX22 w/FRT
>>64848550Remington Thunderbolt 40-grain was decent for me.CCI Standard Velocity 40-grain is also pretty good.In addition to my 10/22, they're the only loads that have ever cycled in my 21A.
>>64841745Update: this is fucking amazing. I love it.>>64842054I'm using CCI SVs, it's amazingly quiet so I'd like to try some subs
>>64848550like >>64848575 CCI 40gr Copper Plated Round Nose is my go-to standard for .22
>>64848625I really wanted to make CCI coppers (specifically minimag) my go-to but it patterned like absolute shit in my Mossberg. CCI standard velocity was my second pick, but it's just under what the Mossberg needs for reliable extraction. Ultimately I think I'm gonna use Blazer for the Mossberg and CCI standards for the 10/22 suppressed.
>>64845084Hey Burt, you have a lot of 22s and a handful of suppressors if I'm not mistaken. Any guns that are particularly good or bad as hosts? I want a new 22 pistol, and I want it to be as quiet as possible. Some of my 22 rifles have loud actions and even suppressed they make an obnoxious racket, I'm worried about investing in a new handgun that does the same.
>>64848647There isn't much difference in hosts, the only things I've found matter even slightly would beBarrel length--don't go over 5" and you can keep some supersonic loads subsonicEnclosed action--seems slightly quieter because port pop only comes out one side instead of radially, but this is marginal and only beneficial out in a grass field or something with nothing nearby to reflect soundTX22 is crazy reliable when dry and filthy, nothing else I have is. Unrelated to sound but very related to silencer-induced gunkNothing you buy is going to be enough quieter to matter in the context you describe, so get whatever and just hold the slide closed with your thumb and cycle the action manually. That also is not going to be as quiet as you think but it mitigates the other factors. Even with Colibris and holding the action closed your neighbors are going to figure out after 3 delayed bangs that it's not you hammering plywood, and once they look out the window and see what you're holding they'll also know it's not a pellet gun
>>64848621Looks awesome, love the look of wooden stock. I just picked up a Ruger 10/22 in Magpul X-22 stock and threaded barrel yesterday. I plan on putting Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40 1'' BDC scope on it, as well as A-Tec Wave surpressor and some bipod. It's my first rifle and want to learn to shoot with a scope cheaply.PS: I feel sorry for Americans having to do more paperwork for a surpressor than one needs for a gun permit in Poland. There's 0 regulation on surpresors here:)
>>64840801I have a retard question about .22 and rimfire in generalare modern .22 guns more durable to dry fire?obviously don't sit there all day and dry fire repeatedly, but for the way old timers I've known talk about it, you'd think your firing pin would shatter like glass at the first pull
>>64851121Objectively yes. MOST but not all newish .22s have some kind of firing pin block, MOST old ones didn't. Some new guns have weak block designs that will deform over time and eventually allow hits to the breech face. Some just let the pin hit the breech face above the chamber but the actual striking part (at the edge of the chamber) is protected. But for the most part you can dry fire newer .22s to your heart's contentIf you don't know whether a gun has one or not, fold a piece of paper and put it between the breech face and bolt/slide, and dry fire. If the pin breaks through the paper right next to the chamber it's not safe for the gunPic related is a Savage Mark II which lets the top half of the firing pin slam into the breech face, but not near the chamber so it won't peen into the opening. This one is """safe""" to dry fire but eventually that dent will get deep enough that the striking part may hit the edge of the chamber and cause damage, so it should be avoided with this design. My TX22 and Mark 3 have blocks that stop the firing pin before it touches the breech face and I dry fire them constantly
>>64851121it depends. some modern .22s wont contact the chamber, some will and will peen the chamber and cause malfunctions
>>64843309Q3 26 per Aguila CS. Why don't you guys just ask the companies making products where their shit is? That's your voice in the market. I talk to them all the time and tell what products I do and don't want to see.
>>64841500Which is cool, right?
bump
>>64851323I don't know. But I do know what Beret is asking is kinda steep. Also underwhelmed by their offerings on their 500th anniversary.
>>64840801WHAT THE FUCK RUGER? So Shot Show just happened, no one covered this, and Ruger didn't seem to try and show their new 10/22s off. The new $349 MSRP 32000 series 10/22 has:>threaded barrel with irons>tighter fit barrel (guy said he had to use a heat gun to remove it)>BX trigger included>factory auto bolt release>finger grooves in stock to allow you to grab 10rd mags from the side(as someone who exclusively uses BX-15s, meh)>cleaning hole drilled in back of receiver just like people have done for yearsSeems like a hell of an update to the 10/22 to not show off.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qMIXi31jgAnd a new factory SBR series but at $650 for an 8" and $800 for a 10" TD I think I'd rather Form 1 a charger or regular 10/22.https://ruger.com/products/1022sbr/models.html
Fuck
>READ MANUAL BEFORE USE>Factory SBRRuger, come on...
>>64856353>no one covered thisIt's been extensively covered. >Ruger didn't seem to try and showThey spent all of Shot Show exclusively showing off their SBRs, 10/22, PC Carbine, and the Ruger American. None of it is very interesting or appealing, but at least they also cost too much.
>>64856353>Meanwhile at Rossi>$189
>>64840801Shot a 19mm 10 shot group at 55yd with my Ruger 77 the other day. Recrowned it. Taking it rabbit hunting with the dogs shortly, should be good
>>64848621crazy how Americans went so long without subsonic suppressed 22
>>64848628try minimag segmented. It's 40gn not 36
>>64851054If you want to save money you can skimp on the suppressor, the cheapest ones are barely louder than the good ones
>>64856461That's cool
Outside of the TX-22, what other high cap mag pistols are out there? I don't like how the TX-22 looks.
>>64857179Kel-Tec P17 is 16+1 and their CP33 is 33+1, Sig P322 holds 20+1, M&P 22X does 20+1, FN 502 is 15+1 with fuck ugly mags. The TX22 and P322 magazines are based on the same designs, same patents from Benjamin Bubits of Bubix Bro fame who was also behind the Taurus TS9. His work was fundamental is developing the TX22. His double-stack arrangement for 22LR is also tangentially related to the M&P 22X magazines, and the high-capacity Ruger Standard magazines they keep teasing us with. Eventually they'll give us a Ruger Mk4/Mk5 with 20-24rd magazines, eventually. Or they'll bitch out and give us 16+1.
>>64840801How are Eley?
>>64841079Honestly would rather have a bobcat.
I wish ruger came out with a bolt action charger. I just want a bolt action .22 sbr with a 6-10" threaded barrel to shoot suppressed that takes 10/22 mags. Is a semi auto .22 that much cheaper to make than a bolt action or is it more due to economy of scale? The American rimfires are $250+ more than the 10/22s.
Just picked up a Single Six a few weeks back.There's something serene about ejecting each casing by hand, then loading back up.
>>64844789Step aside faggot, failure to eject has entered the chat.
>>64857405not very good unless it's the match stuff
>>64857504Get a jw15 and chop and thread it. Better rifle
Are the CMMG 22 AR conversions good enough (reliable) to build an AR around with like a 1:12 barrel?
>>64860965The CMMG, PSA, and BoreBuddy conversion bolts are all very good, but they're better with real barrels. You can use a BoreBuddy collar and a real 22LR barrel to get the best out of any of them. BoreBuddy's is "modular" so you can run it with either a 223 or dedicated 22LR barrel. Pair it with their Quiet Collar if you plan to run it suppressed, but otherwise the PSA or CMMG one would be a better value. They're all solid, reliable, long-lived.
.22LR is the only cartridge that I've had not fire.
Why hasn't 22lr been replaced by a proper automatic friendly rimless cartage the same size and power?
>>64861365fuck wrong picture, ignore thatthe closest is 380, right? it's still a lot bigger and you lose the capacity. imagine a 22lr sized rimless cartridge.and please ignore that previous picture
>>64843309>>64843325>>64844765anyone ever pulled the bullet and powder from a regular 22lr and loaded it with a 22 airgun pellet? just be the same effect as the aguila super colibris
>>6485750822 WMR fag here. Single Nine is great.
>>64861372i laughed>>64861365
>>64857266>CP33 is 33+1or 50+1 with extended magazines
>>64840801.22lr ammo boxes really remind me of tampon boxes.
>>64861365is no longer the gayest poster here>>64861664
>>64861670Mean you'd be surprised how handy they can be. Stick them on the end of a screwdriver and they pretty good at cleaning very hard to reach places.
>>64861702Sure thing, James May
>>64861713>curses I've been found outLegit though was actually surprisingly decent advice if you deal with grease and oil on a daily basis.
>>64861062>one primer strike on each cartridgekek, that's nothing. I've had dud rounds that I've cycled through my magazines until the entire rim was covered in firing pin marks. I usually throw them in my range bag and harvest the lead, brass, and powder out of them.
>>64861365doesn't rimfire need to have a rim? and everyone has a .22lr. it's the same thing as 12 gauge's issue. no one is going to buy a new nonbackwards compatible cartridge and gun
>>64861062>Remington .22lr ammoThere's your problem.Also, if you've never had a center fire dud, you've not shot very much. Opinion discarded.>>64861372No, the closest would be .25acp; though that is still semi-rimmed. If the "no rim" is an absolute for you, then yes .380 becomes the closest.To answer your question though : cost. .22lr is inexpensive, and there isn't any way to manufacture similar ammo at even lower cost. If there was, the manufacturers would have found it by now.Also, there's zero demand for such a cartridge.Double also, the entire world is conspiring just to piss off that one .22lr hating autist; because fuck that guy.
>>64861975>Double also, the entire world is conspiring just to piss off that one .22lr hating autist; because fuck that guy.>BUT IT DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH MASS TO CAUSEi don't care, 22lr is a perfectly fine round, the lack of massive damage is fine when you can fire 3x as much. my only issue is the unreliability caused by the rimfire and the feed issues. 25apc is basically non existent at this point. Even the greatest firearms manufacture of all time, Keltec, doesn't care
>>64862013>25apc is basically non existent at this pointAssuming you don't live in a state that forbids on-line sales; .25 acp is available for about 36 cents per round delivered to your doorstep and at a quick peek there's at least a handful of manufacturers producing it. AI summary tells me that Phoenix, Taurus, and Precision Small Arms are all currently manufacturing guns chambered in .25acp. Add in the many out of production guns and it's fair to say .25acp is very much alive; more so than 30 super carry. It may be niche, it may not be popular, but it isn't non existent.
>>64862066.22lr is like 5 to 6 cents per round. 36 cents per round is around 5.56 price
>>64862137>.22lr is like 5 to 6 cents per round. 36 cents per round is around 5.56 priceAnd?What does that have to do with anything I was talking about?
is there any point in putting a compensator/brake on a 22 besides looks?it's not like there's any recoil to mitigate
>>64862162you can't be a .22lr competitor when you cost 6 to 7 times as much per round. The main benefit of .22lr is the price. that's actually probably the only benefit because like .17 hmr is a better round for hunting.
Kind of perfect timing on this thread DESU. I shot a suppressed 22LR for the first time this weekend (Mark IV) and fell in love. That said, is the TX22 /ourguy/ when it comes to cost-to-performance ratio? I know the Ruger MKIV is popular, but my pops has a MKII and the mags kind of suck ass to load.
>>64862196What do you mean by performance? I guess if you want a FRT host or something the TX22 has more "performance in that way" I don't know about MKII but MKIV mags have a nub on the follower to press down and loading is easy.
>>64862195I never suggested it was. Somebody asked for the closest thing to .22lr that was autoloader friendly. I was providing information. Read >>64861975 and you'll see I pointed out cost. There's a reason it's been around for almost 140 years. And it will continue to be around for 140 more. There's no competition.
>>64862066>AI summary tells me thatPhoenix is out of business, and Taurus doesn't produce a 25ACP. Don't consult AI you fucking retard.
>>64862066.25 ACP is about as alive and well as .32 ACP meaning that they are purely on life support and that without some kind of major shake up the production of the ammo will never go up, only down. Yes people make it, yes you can buy it but it's very expensive for what it is and you're not really gonna find many guns chambered in it. As it stands there is the only thing that compares to .22 is air guns which I honestly am surprised aren't more popular given the lack of regulations on them and price.TL;DR .25 is more like .32 than .22 and air guns are the closest thing to .22.
>>64862690I think it's because people who live in normal states associate air rifles with like red ryder bb guns and cuckstates regulate air rifles like real guns
>>64841053Ive seen some places selling them with the FRT. I love America.
>>64841053>I’ll buy a TX-22 this year..(hopefully). The deals for multiple mags and an OR cut sell out so fast>dealsim so fucking jelly, my tx22 Toro was almost 600$, 2 mags, simple box and it was a good dealt. euro
Finally got the 22X and was able to shoot.Shooting side by side the TX22 Competition has a little less recoil, probably due to weight. It’s about 40% heavier (23 oz with optic) which also gives it a “real gun” feel where the 22X (16.6 oz with optic) is light and toylike. That has a coolness too, like a Ruger Mark Lite. Despite the weight gap it’s still close. inb4 “it’s just .22.”They have similar grip sizes, both designed for short reach (probly accessiblity for little kids), but the TX22 has a fat ass that gives it a Glocklike hold where the 22X is more neutral. The TX22 fills out the hand a little more but has that stupid finger nub.Trigger comparison did my brain in. My TX22 trigger feels significantly lighter than the 22X. Or rather, the 22X feels way heavier than it is. To my finger the 22X felt like about 6 pounds albeit with a pretty clean break and a positive reset, and the TX22 feels like 3-3.5 pounds with a slightly rolling break and very short reset. However I measured my TX22 at 4 pounds 4 ounces, not 3. And the 22X measures 3 pounds 14 ounces, not 6. Very odd, neither one feels like their pull weight. I’ve read that the M&P 5.7 and M&P 22 Magnum triggers get lighter with use, so I’d be happy for my 22X to earn that upgrade with time.On the upside the 22X does not have a magazine disconnect. On the down, its steel slide stop rests on the aluminum slide. That may eventually be a problem if the slide stop eats into the slide. In comparison the TX22 has a steel breech face against which the slide stop impinges.Takedown goes to the TX22 hands down, the slide pops off lightning fast. The 22X takes down like a Walther P22, but with a captured recoil spring assembly. That sucks with a thread adapter because you have to take it off, where the TX22 Competition’s barrel is full diameter for 1/2x28 and just slides out with no fuss.
The TX22 Competition seems slightly easier to shoot fast. Accuracy is extremely similar. I am impressed with the 22X because it doesn’t have the TX22 Competition’s benefit of having its optic mounted directly to the barrel. The 22X is a traditional layout, with the optic on the reciprocating slide. But there is little enough slop that it's still just as accurate. Related to that, the 22X feels nicer made. It’s tighter, plastic seems higher quality, nice tumbled edges rather than sharp like the TX22 slide. However when racking the slides the TX22 is super smooth like a bolt action and the 22X is really ratchety and kachunky like an AK. The former is striker and the latter has an internal hammer, also there’s a 5,000 round difference between them, so I don’t hold it against the 22X yet but some of the difference is due to mechanical complexity.Loading TX22 magazines is easier overall because of the included highly functional speed loader. No loader for the 22X but mags are pretty painless to load by hand, except for the 20th round which was a thumb buster. For that reason I was just reloading 15 rounds at the range since ammo boxes have rows of 5, but it’s easier to get the 20th in now after a few cycles. I have a speed loader for another gun that fits 22X magazines, but once I get to about 14 rounds with the loader they start tilting like crazy and binding up, so I do not think 22X mags will work with a speed loader in the future. That kinda sucks.Overall they’re pretty comparable, though the 22X is probably a closer match to the TX22 Toro as opposed to the base model or Competition. Time will tell if the 22X is as reliable.
The threaded barrel adapter and optic sealing plate were both missing from the box. Gay, no silencer for now. Oh well, at least the barrel is rifled. S&W is sending replacements.Now the bad. About 100 rounds in I had 5 failures one after another. Not sure what was going on here because the first 4 failures were all a combination of FTE and failures to chamber with Winchester Silver Tip subsonic, like it didn’t have enough juice to fully cycle. I switched to CCI SV and got 1 pic related stovepipe. But after that it immediately went back to working fine, and continued to even when I switched back to Winchester. Just the 5 malfunctions in a row. Weird. I only fault it for the one CCI stovepipe, because Winchester has had extremely wild velocity spreads leading to many FTE/load malfunctions across a bunch of my .22s. Or maybe I was dragging my thumb on the slide, idk, but I’ll watch in the future. In any case other than these 5 failures I shot 4 kinds of ammo from subsonic to Minimags and it all worked great. Have not shot with a suppressor yet since no thread adapter, and I had time only for 160 rounds but I’ll get that round count up.Biggest ding is that the S&W manual says DO NOT DRY FIRE the 22X. Man that’s fucking turbogay in the year of our Lord 2026. I’m still gonna.
Oh one more thing. That optic sealing plate that didn’t come in the box is supposed to be used to seal this hole in the slide where the rear sight screw goes. Not sure how important that truly is because I saw no gas or ejecta coming from the hole when shooting, and the manual implies you do not need the sealing plate if using a larger optic that covers the hole. Secondarily that seems to imply the Shield cut can fit Deltapoint optics? Since they are the same screw/pin layout as Shield just with a longer body. I’m not gonna play musical optics and re-zero 2x just to confirm but just eyeballing it does look like a DPP would fit
>>64862686>Phoenix is out of business, and Taurus doesn't produce a 25ACP. Don't consult AI you fucking retard.Hey shitbag; why do you think I prefaced with "AI summary tells me"? Because I KNOW it's not reliable, and I don't want to make a claim otherwise. I didn't feel like digging any further than that. But now you're being a douche so here goes : Taurus used to produce a .25acp; the PT25. Looks like they no longer manufacture that model. In my defense I wasn't aware that Phoenix went under last year, damn shame. Precision Small Arms is still making baby brownings, but for 1200 they can kiss my ass.Now get bent.>>64862690>As it stands there is the only thing that compares to .22 is air guns which I honestly am surprised aren't more popular given the lack of regulations on them and price.In a rifle, you'd be correct. But in a handgun sized platform, especially compact or smaller, an airgun doesn't stand a chance vs a powder cartridge. Honestly, I'm impressed with how far airgun tech has come and just how much you can do with it and how stupid powerful it is given it's just compressed air. BUT, I don't think most people are aware of what air guns can really do. They think airgun they think Red Rider bb/pellet gun, or break action bb/pellet gun, or pump it up 10 times bb/pellet guns; MAYBE the CO2 cartridge pistols. I don't know what the cost of one of these newer air guns is, but I do know you need a special compressor to charge them. So what's the cost comparison of airgun + compressor + ammo vs 22lr rifle + ammo? And, as another Anon pointed out : some states regulate air guns like firearms. New Jersey in particular is insane about it. Even a Red Rider bb gun has to be purchased through an FFL; same with paintball or airsoft. Though, don't quote me on that, it's been a couple decades since I lived there and a few years since I looked at the laws. It might have gotten better (but I very much doubt it).
>>64863557Asking the AI took more time and effort than actually looking into yourself would've taken. I'm sorry about your disability, that's rough.
>>64863574No, it really didn't. Asking google "who currently manufactures pistols in .25acp" comes back with an answer WAY faster than looking at every manufacturers' website that I think might be making a 25acp pistol. I don't like it. I don't trust it to be completely accurate. But I also don't want to spend the time searching every obscure corner of the internet and looking at firearms manufacturers whos names I don't even know just to see if maybe they're making a pistol in an obscure caliber. Unless there's an aggregator site that lets you search for guns by form factor and caliber that I'm not aware of?
>>64863557>same with paintball or airsoft.airshit and paintball aren't regulated. it needs to be a solid projectile and airshit bbs have holes in them
>>64863553>high fructose corn syrup>and corn syrup>in ketchupjfc smdh
>>64862066>go online>buy 100 rounds of 25apc>wait two weeks for it to arrive>walk to store>buy 600 rounds of 22lr>same price
>>64863595>an aggregator site that lets you search for guns by form factor and caliberThat would be nice, and there used to be sites like that, but it's not really feasible to get a good list, and maintain it.
anyone know if there are any single shot, manually operated 22lr pistols? I want to shoot it suppressed out of a pistol but port pop is significantly louder than my suppressed bolt-action .22. I can shoot my 22LR rifle all day without ear pro comfortably but the pistol got my ears ringing. I'm almost tempted to find a way to mod my Buckmark to be like the vietnam-era hushpuppy with a slide lock.
>>64864030Just use your thumb.
>>64864051I would prefer to not have my fingers in the way of moving parts, and unless I'm using my entire palm on the back of the slide to prevent movement there's still movement. I don't want it moving at all, like the hushpuppy.
>>64864070It doesn't move if you hold your thumb against it...
When I was in my early teens, my grandpa had a 10/22 that I learned on, but when it was my time to pick out my first gun of my own, I made the contrarian pick of a Remington 597 and goddamn that was a piece of shit, so many feeding and mag loading issues. Maybe my grandpa bought shitty ammo but it was usually Federal and those rounds never had issues in the 10/22
>>64863419Are the mags for the 22X similar length to TX22 mags with extensions, or did Smith and Wesson manage a wider stack of 22? They look long as hell in all the promo images I've seen so far.
>>64864231The mags are only a little bit taller than the TX22 mags, but the 22X grip is shorter so the mags look retarded.
>>64864231They're a little longer but the stack is about 10% denser than TX22 stacks. Looks like the 22X stack is minutely wider, hard to tell by eye because the main body isn't any thicker.
>>64862176it does recoil and movement of the 22lr is much more sensitive than other guns because it's in the barrel for that much longer. Of course the muzzle brake does most of it's work after the bullet has already left
>>64863437That's disappointing. A gun you shouldn't dry fire that is a "new" design is ridiculous. Come to think of it, I don't know if my MKIV manual says something similar, but I do dry fire my MKIV and I haven't seen any damage in my teardowns for cleaning.>>64863667I LOVE the corn industry lobby.
My 10/22 used to jam a lot, even with different high quality ammo. It sucked so much that I nearly got rid of it. I read online that changing the extractor could fix it. I upgraded to a volquartsen extractor and now it runs flawlessly. Now I love my 10/22.
>>64864290https://www.keltecweapons.com/product/cp33-17-magazine-extension/50roundsif this is reliable, and it seems so unless you use underpowered ammo>home defence with a 22lr? that's dumb!50 rounds of 22lr vs... i can't think of a good alternative for the CP33 in another caliber. 7 rounds of 45 from a 1911?10 rounds of 9mm from a baretta m9?realistically, you'll have it set up as a PDW, so maybe an mp5 clone with 30 rounds of 9mm? you're talking serious money now
>>64865100My CP33 can't get through one mag without a jam or 5 lol I can't imagine what an extension would do to it. I would NEVER trust such a gun for defensive use
>>64864115I have a henry golden boy and it's nice because unless you remove the spring mid mag it always loads because tube and always cycles because manual action
>>64856461What model is that, I can't find it anywhere? I want to join the Rossi Possy.
>>64866768Looks like their RS22.https://rossiusa.com/firearms/handguns/rs22-pistol/
>>64866770Tard moment, I didn't look in the pistol section. Their model with a brace is just as much as the Ruger.
>>64866800Not sure what you mean. The Ruger Charger is gone, discontinued. The new SBR 10/22 has its retail price set at $650 for the base model and requires a tax stamp. The cheapest 10/22 is still over $200.
>>64866853>The Ruger Charger is gone, discontinued.NTA but what the fuck? Oh hey now that tax stamps are zero, let's charge $200 more for a factory SBR charger, I guess. And add that awful read manual text to the reciever while making the rollmark uglier for a second time, now without a Ruger logo, too. Ruger is so fucking gay sometimes. Remember the Ruger Silent-SR? And the integrally silenced barrel? Yeah, they discontinued those too.
>>64845080Maglula makes one. It's decent, saves your thumbs at least.
>>64867251Ruger is 77 years old and senile.
>>64865883reeeeeeeeeeeeeee it looks so cool though. are you using shit ammo or something? all i want is a 22lr pdw with a silencer, and huge magazine
>>64867357All kinds of ammo. Subsonic, supersonic, cheap, expensive, silenced, not silenced, dirty mags, freshly cleaned mags it doesn't matter. It happens all over the place. The first round jams 95% of the time right off the bat, if not the first 2-3, followed by random jams throughout. Jams are usually either nose-into-breech face (nose up), or nose-into-magazine-feedramp (nose down). Usually the former results in a smashed case, usually the latter results in having to take the mag out and fiddle with it. And it's not just one problem mag, it's all 6 of mineIt's accurate as hell and fun when it works. When it works.
>>64867371i have seen people online blast through mags with no issue, this is making me sad. My only gun right now is a Ruger LPC, and frankly it's awful for anything other than concealed carry. I want something more like a pdw, smaller caliber preferred because i want as little penetration of walls as possible. The idea of blasting 30+ rounds of 22lr as some goober breaks into my home is very appealing...
>>64867414>Over penetration Get a semiauto 12ga and fill the first mag with bird shot.
.22lrs are cool
>>64867547i want to kill the bl... burglars.With many small bullets. but still kill them
>>64867414The CMR30 might be what you want then. It's already a rifle, and it's got to be more reliable than the CP33 because magnumBut using a .22 for defense is foolish, pleae don't do that. Do as anon said, or use a handgun with fragmenting ammo like Glaser or ARX if that's such a concern. Or just use an appropriate tool with the best ammo you can regardless of how far it penetrates. You get one chance in a moment like that
>>64869074maybe just an mp5k clone
>>64840801I wish these were still a thing.
Gotta love 22
>>64871929That looks cool but I can't imagine going out for a small game hunt with all of my ammo in little zipped pouches with sleeves. Such a slow way to reload.
Snagged a ruger 10/22 carbine recently and didn’t realize it would be such a bitch to get a sling on this thing. Do I really have to drill the stock or is there a shotgun style sling that’ll do the trick?
>>64873392I love my 10/22 but yeah, kinda floored Ruger doesn't have sling swivels on these things as standard. I'm probably going to drill in the near future.
>>64873392>>64873434I had to drill the stock on my henry to add a sling swivel, though I mostly added the swivel to make it so the cheek riser wouldn't move. I also ended up ducttaping part of a foam camping mat to the stock and then putting the cheek riser over that and that green 100 mph tape has enough friction that the riser doesn't move so the sling swivel is kind of pointless
>>64873434>kinda floored Ruger doesn't have sling swivels on these things as standardPeople have been calling for that for literal decades, at this point it's just out of spite
>>64873434they actually DO have sling swivels...on the Sporter. who fucking knows why they don't just do that for every other 10/22 variant but it pisses me off.
>>64873434Fuck looks like Im going to have to do the same, praying my shop will do it for me.
>>64873461>>64873487My 80 year old Mossberg gets styled on by my 10/22 in every single way except for actually being able to use a sling lmfao. Ruger is smoking some shit.
>>64873506drilling a hole in wood isn't hard
>>64873539yeah, so why is the user having to do it to begin with
>>64873543Because the gun costs $180 not $400.
>>64873559anon the 10/22 sporter w/ swivels costs the same as the classic 10/22 with no swivels, you're being silly.
>>64873539I don’t trust myself to do it without fucking up. Nor do I care what you think of me. Dont change my own oil either.
>>64873559Why would sling studs warrant a $220 markup and where are you finding new 10/22s for $180?
>>64873655no one changes their own oil. unless you are illegally disposing of your oil it costs the same amount to buy new oil and dispose of the old oil as it does to just take it to the oil guy drilling a hole in a piece of wood isn't hard
>>64873667NTA, a new 10/22 starts about $205 currently, and all models now include sling mounts albeit shitty ones.
>>64873670Who said it was hard? There is always a risk of splitting the wood.
>>64873672Not even remotely true. Wooden stock retails at like 230, and the only one that comes with a swivel is: >>64873487 which sell for 299. When is the last time you actually looks at prices?
>>64873684This meant for: >>64873559
>>64873672>a new 10/22 starts about $205 currentlyI wish, it's like $250-$300 nowadays.
>>64873684To be clear, Ruger only puts wooden stocks on Competition models now, MSRP north of $900 assuming they're coming back to production. Sporter is gone, like the Charger before it. The basic models are now the 32000 and 32002, both have shitty sling mounts, NOT swivels just shit-tier lanyard loops.>>64873690picrel
>>64873694That isnt wooden. >ruger only puts wooden stocks on Competition models nowThat simply isn’t true
>>64873706Anon I'm so sorry but yes it is, Ruger has totally fucked the 10/22 lineup, there is currently no 10/22 being produced with a wooden stock but they haven't discontinued the Competition models so presumably they'll be in production again in the future. I'm sure there are plenty of new-old-stock floating around and will be for some time.
>>64873706>>64873694Apparently it’s off their site but this is a change literally as recent as this January. I bought my wood stock carbine two months ago for 260 after tax it was the lowest price in 500 miles and it was still on their site for me to reference.
>>64873712Even more reason to not drill the stock myself if I don’t feel comfortable doing it.
>>64873717Yeah, you bought the last of a dying breed, be happy anon because it's gone now. For 2026 Ruger has shat on the 10/22 lineup. They were kind enough to give us the BX Trigger by default now even on the cheapest $205 models, but there are no longer wooden stocks, no Charger, no pistol configs outside of the SBR, just a whole lot of black plastic.
>>64873694>no more wood stocks>Sporter gone>Charger goneWhat the actual fuck are they thinking
>>64873694Im not seeing a single 10/22 for less than 300 and change on their site.
>>64873722as soon as the non-Takedown model polymer stock 10/22s appeared I knew the wood was on limited time, the only shocking thing is they waited this long to finally do it
>>64873720>model has been essentially the same since 64>company brags it’s arguably the most circulated firearm in America>cancel it like it called a tranny a man in a dressWhat a remarkably dumb set of decisions. Did a woman take over as CEO in the last year?
>>64873730it's actually worse, they didn't just switch over to that polymer stock they've been using for a while, it's a new, utterly hideous version that's now being marketed as their standard. this is now the default appearance of their flagship product.
>>64873727MSRP doesn't mean shit, anon. Guns are regularly sold well above or below MSRP for a variety of reasons. The price that stores are currently listing the gun for, like that 32002 for $204.37, that's the price of the gun regardless of what the manufacturer suggests. Rossi says their RS22P is $500 but everyone sells it for $270. The BG2.0 launched with an MSRP of $450, I bought mine the day after it launched for $375. This is normal.
>>64873738This (and all polymer stocks) looks like a fucking airsoft replica
>>64873722>>64873731>>64873738>>64867293>Ruger is 77 years old and senile.
>>64873743at least their early polymer option was literally just their usual wood stock but in black plastic, this new shit looks like a trashy aftermarket drop-in marketed for normies.
>>64873738The fact they kept that borderline useless rear sight setup has convinced me they genuinely hate us and made this specifically to spit in our faces
>>64873741Sure thing bucko. So find me a wood stock for less than 250 after shipping, tax and FFL fees.
>>64873750Blind anon, you've been told repeatedly there are no wood stock 10/22s anymore. You can't will them into existence, go hit up a pawn shop or gun show.
>>64873738Welp, good thing there will be ready supplies of pre-2026 options rotating through the secondary market until the heat death of the universe
>>64873757By this same logic theyre never sold below MSRP.
>>64873761Anon you seem confused, let's step back.>>64873672>a new 10/22 starts about $205 currently>>64873690>I wish, it's like $250-$300 nowadays.>>64873694>picrel shows a 10/22 for $204.37>>64873727>Im not seeing a single 10/22 for less than 300 and change on their site.>>64873741>MSRP doesn't mean shit, anon. The price that stores are currently listing the gun for, like that 32002 for $204.37, that's the price of the gun>>64873750>Sure thing bucko. So find me a wood stock for less than 250 after shipping, tax and FFL fees.That's where you went off the rails. Take a breath, anon, I hate to see you struggle like this.
>>64873738They've been hammering on the whole>We're America's rifle and have been since your grandpappy was oggling up your granny's skirt at prom and we ain't fixin' what ain't brokeangle for like half a decade and then apparently just decided they weren't doing that anymore because someone in marketing thought Rossi was onto something aesthetically with their $150 shitrods.
>>64873769You did all that which makes me think you’re being genuine. Which is sad. Because it doesn’t matter if ruger is making them anymore. The units that were shipped to stores are still there. Just admit you were wrong when you said you can get a WOOD STOCK 10/22 for 180. Cant you just be honest and do that?
>>64873776Oh anon, I never said that, I corrected the retard who said that.>>64873672>NTA, a new 10/22 starts about $205 currently, and all models now include sling mounts albeit shitty ones.
>>64873738I really hate how they tried to make it look freefloated without it actually being so.
>>64873667It's not JUST the sling swivels you disingenuous faggot. You knew that, why am I even replying to you?
>>64873795I'm confused, the conversation was about sling swivels, then you said the reason they don't have them is because the gun isn't $400, when we've had for a good while options with sling swivels for much less than that. Please explain your argument in this discussion about sling swivels.
>>64873795>dipshit who said 10/22s were $180 calls someone else disingenuous
>>64873727guns usually sell for less than MSRP
>>64873804They were $179 last black friday. They are reliably so every year and sporadically all the time.
>>64873882>The gun costs $180...provided you get it at this specific timedisingenuous faggot.
>>64873746>>64873747God, are we living through another one of Ruger's full retard eras? It feels like they cycle from doing really cool things and really dumb things, but I don't remember them doing anything this lame since the AWB.
>>64875141They make everything you want RIGHT NOW. Just not all of the features are available on the most bottom basement bitch poverty destitute tier poorfag models.Why are people sperging over this?
>>64875286read the thread, retard
>>64875286God help you, you blind little retard.
>>64873738That's horrifying. Glad I got mine already.
What brands and loads do you guys recommend for javelin? lr or wmr out of a Super Wrangler.
*javelina
It's not looking good for the S&W M&P 2&2X.I think this is a magazine flaw. Some of the mags bow outward and stick in the magwell, some are appropriately loose. One mag's feed lips apparently were weak letting a round point upwards (this obviously caused a nose-up jam). These jams seem spread across only 3 of 5 mags, which happen to be the 3 tight ones. In the last pic you can see mags #2, #3 and #4 have polished rub marks on the side and stick HARD in the magwell, #1 has none and #5 has a very light mark. #1 and #5 are the good ones.I think I got two batches of magazines, some made of harder plastic than the other. The hard ones hold their shape under pressure and don't rub. The soft ones flex. I'm just guessing that's what's going on. I think this is what's causing all jams, the soft feed lips spread and let rounds feed too high.Not sure what S&W will do about this, but at least I narrowed it down to 3 mags. Except for more low velocity FTEs from Winchester
my B-14R barreled action came todaygot it in the stock and the pic rail on, putting on the scope tomorrow now I just need all the fucking snow to melt so I can go to the range
>>64879209That's rad
got the scope on itneed to get some flip caps because this rubber cover sucks
>>64880635>>64879209is that mirrored or is that gun faggot handed? God that whole gun is an abomination >yurosissy action >faggot handed >modern wood with that ugly ass checkering
>>64880990It's wrong-handed, anon, can you not read?
>>64880990glad you like it, anonand yes, it's wrong handed
>>64881000he didn't mention it was gay handed in the post >>64881016learn to shoot the way God and the bear at the mall intended
>>64879209>>64880635Lovely, have fun shaving wildlife with that one. What's the weight like? >>64881019There's text in both of those photos, blind-anon.
>>64881061why would I zoom in to read the lawyer shit on the barrel?
>>64881070>posted from my iPhone
>>64881072/k/ is a phone post board at the best of times, since it's over jannied by no gunz war tourist janny. but captcha is being gay and wont load on my laptop
>>64881061don't have an exact number, but based on the weights listed for the parts, I'm looking at around 8-8.5 pounds
>>64881217That's fabulous. Good shit, anon.
>>64870771Nuh uh anon you can't have those please buy our totally not future unobtanium, 21 Sharp. Basically only available in the Wildcat rifle. And only manufactured by Winchester. Ignore that 22WMR exists and has a much vaster selection of rifles and 22LR equivalent loads at a slightly higher cpr. Probably a good caliber to have a gun in for panic buy scares, though. Many will buy it not noticing but that shit will sit except accidental purchases, mark my words.>>64873487Butting into this conversation but the sling swivels on the sporter hinge forward/backward but do not spin or, well, swivel. Makes the gun carry upside-down and it sucks big cock unless you carry muzzle up on your back. Much prefer Magpul QD swivels even if I don't use any of their other products except slings (metal mags FTW).>>64873722They also made the rollmark gayer and took the barrel read manual mark and put it on the rear left of the reciever. No more Ruger logo.>anon just modify itMine, due to being a special (export only?) model is like a 1 of 50 or maybe 100 in the US. And discontinued years ago. Europe probably has thousands of them though.
>>64881737I think savage has some rifles in .21 sharp
>>64881776That makes, like, max 5 rifles, lol. I'm sure someone makes 10/22 barrels as well, but...
For the most part this thread is comfy, keep it up
>>64881802/k/ is good if you stay out of the evergreen generals and war tourist no gunz shit threads >>64881781lmao, I'm surprised Henry isnt making one. they make a ton of random garbage
>>64881781You can get 21 Sharp barrels for all the popular girls now. It's officially more successful than 30SC ever was.
I bore scoped my .22 and I thought I had rust in the barrel and I cleaned it and I thought the groups were kind of bad but I later realized when I used to shoot at paper and group it I was using like minimags or some other CCI shit and I've mostly been shooting at like plates and stuff and when I went to regroup it I was using cheap ass 1,500 bullets to a tub ammo so it was probably the ammo
Why are CP33's so expensive for what they are? I just want a MP7 kit on it and fuck around.
Damn I love my 10/22.
>>64885807match ammo?
>>64885892CCI Standard Velocity.
I don't think you could make a cooler stock for the 10/22. I like that it's an original design and not an imitation of something else like the majority of tactical styled stocks for the 10/22.
>>64885923how far? and how many shots?
>>6488596810 shots at 25y.
>>64886023nice
>>64885953Maybe I'd fudd-coded but I personally love the mannlicher stock they had as a distributor exclusive. Came standard with sling hardpoints that perfectly fit an M1 Carbine sling.
>>64886787>man licker
>>64886799>man lic/k/er
I've been having some problems with my Ounce pic related. Third Bay helpfully ran me through some troubleshooting, now it's back in action! It turned out a teeny tiny little plastic finger had gotten slightly tweaked out of position (by me) and it was preventing brass from ejecting properly. The brass was occasionally obstructing the hammer so it couldn't hit the firing pin so I was getting FTFs
>>64886852zip gun ass gun
>>64840801is it safe to dry fire with deez? Using a sw k22 if that matters. What about using an empty shell casing?
>>64886932Just 3D print some bullets and glue them into spent casings. Make their noses a tiny bit oversized and sand them smooth to get rid of the layer ridges.
>>64887262what good does the bullet do me? I just want to protect the firing pin
>>64886932You can use an empty shell casing, but if you don't rotate it every 2-4 strikes the rim will just flatten out and it'll do little at that clock position
Any anons tried the new threaded Mark IV 22/45 model? It looks like a great suppressor host.
>>64887401ok so what should I do for like 1000 rounds dry fire on my vintage k22. Im unemployed so I literally just dry fire 4 hours a day.
>>64887500Nothing is going to last more than 15 or 20 hits, any snap cap is going to be damaged quickly. That's an insane amount of dryfire for a .22 just to fuck around. I'd suggest get a centerfire rifle or pistol to click around with but
>>64887507The steel snap-caps with replaceable rims last a good while, depending on the gun I can 3 dozen hits out of one. I replace them myself with 3D printed ones, less than 1 cent each, but on Amazon they're $8 for 40.
>>64887500Can you remove the firing pin? Or is it one of those revolvers where it's part of the hammer? Even if so, pick up a spare hammer and file the firing pin off for the same effect.
>>64840801There's a TOZ 78 at my LGS that I need but I'm too broke. Hurts man
>>64840801inherited my uncles 10/22 FA after paperwork.. 1200 rounds a minute. I have a dozen of those 110rnd drumags one goes in about 6 seconds. I have a rugged FA rated. it's a dream. anyone who says .22 is weak and worthless.. stand down range.
>>64887569this is what I do on my 929 since I already broke a firing pin on that gun. I guess I will just take the k22 firing pin out. It is frame mounted, not hammer mounted. >>64887507sad! All the pros say dry fire is almost better training than live fire and they all say that is how they train. I want to start shooting 1600s>>64887557seems like the same thing I have just with no fake plastic boolit
>>64887393Allows you to feed it from a magazine, doofus
>>64878900my 22x shot pretty damn good, but i only put about 300 rounds through it so not much of a trial run
>>64886852mine ran into issues about 3 to 4hundred rounds in; but third bay helped me get it fixed so its back running again. a cool gun but not very pragmatic
The problem is that it's an outdated design. .17 HMR is better at everything, it's a shame that it isn't popular enough.
I love 22s.The current collection is : 2 CrickettsCZ 457 JaguarMAS 45 (French 22lr military trainer, mauser style action)BSA Model 12/15 (martini/henry action designed as a dedicated target gun)2 Savage Model 29 (pump action)Henry lever action 22 (modern, with the long octagonal barrel)Savage Model 7 (click-clack/gill gun)Ruger Single Six (22lr and 22wmr cylinders)Ruger Mark IV 22/45 Tactical I have owned a pile of other 22s, includingRuger American rimfireKel Tec CP33Ruger WranglerHeritage Rough RiderSig Sauer MosquitoRuger SR22Savage RascalBrowning BL-22Henry Mini-Bolt Ask me questions I'll give you answers.CCI standard velocity is the king of bulk ammo. If you want better ammo you have to get into match grade. I have found Norma Tac-22 and Aguila Super Extra (blue and yellow box I think) to be on the same tier as CCI SV.Warning : Henry's quality control has gone to absolute shit in the last few years and I do not recommend their new guns. If you're going to buy a Henry, buy one that's pre 2021.
Why da fugg is my 40gr CCI SV going slower than my 45gr CCI suppressor ammo
>>64888361that looks like a basement
>>64841662In an emergency I'd much rather have a 22 than a baseball batt.
>>64888374It is!
>>64841500Based. I want that keltec PR-57 for the same reason.
>>64888249I'm only at 700 rounds and it seems to be doing okay now, time will tell. I really need to get a silencer on it, that'll be the real test, but S&W hasn't gotten the adapter to me yet>>64888251What was the issue with yours? Mine got to 1,600 rounds without cleaning before it started to slog so I cleaned it and it was good for another 1,400 rounds then this happened. It seems to be fixed now
>>64863419How difficult is it to remove/disable the mag disconnect on the TX22?
>polymer feed lips>melt>aftermarket mags fix thisname the gun/mags
>>64888648There isn't one... not on mine anyway
>>64888499>S&W hasn't gotten the adapter to me yetI thought it was supposed to be included? Am I mistaken or did they just fuck you on that one?
>>64888732It was missing from the box, along with the optic sealing plate that was supposed to be in there >>64863437
>>64888361Weird, my batch is going over box velocity and possibly trannysonic
>>64888255It's extremely popular still. Difference is hardly anyone hunts small game and that's what it's for. Here in NZ where there are rabbits all year round they're popular, although suppressors have always been legal here so subsonic 22 is extremely popular for it too and good to 100yd
>>64887630I've heard they're accurate. Common gun though you should be able to find one privately eventually for cheaper
>>64888736I'd really like to better understand why I see this so often with guns. How many people buy an Xbox and find there's no controller in the box? Or a new TV only to find they forgot the remote? Buying handguns feels like fast food, it's not weird for them to forget the fries, and apparently with guns it's not weird to forget a thread adapter, the second magazine you expect from a given SKU, or the key that fits Hillary's hole. My newest 1911 came with a factory idiot-scratch. Just makes me feel disappointed.
>>64883361Mine had a tiny bit around the crown and that indeed fucked accuracy. 2 inches at 50yd vs as little as half an inch at 50yd after I got her recrowned
>>64888780I think they're just made to such an unrealistically low price point that they have to skimp on QC and the workers are in a rush with no accountability.
>>64888782idk, I think some of it was just me. the groups were also close enough that I wouldn't notice if I wasn't shooting at paper. I should see how much checking the crown and recrowning costs because my target AR is similar but I also think that's just me
>>64888802Yeah it depends what you do, if you're walking around plinking or hunting it doesn't really matter if there is a slight inaccuracy when your shooting style and different ranges are 99% of the spread.22lr is quite sensitive to technique, longer hang time in the barrel. Ammo makes a difference too, that's the different harmonics in each barrel in addition to the quality of ammo. Different FPS basically makes the poi switch to different nodes.I got mine crowned while the gunsmith threaded it and he didn't charge extra, a lot of the charge is in his setting up etc
>>64888780Guns don't stay sealed in the box, they get handled and finger raped by every FFL they go through. Shit gets lost or stolen on their journey around america.
>>64888821Different FPS in the same batch I mean. Each shot you fire from cheap ammo can be like 80fps apart from the last round so that's a lot of the bouncing around you see on paper. If you chronoed it you'd possibly be surprised
>>64888823Kek I ordered a gun once, taken like 4 months to arrive so when it did come in I basically instantly grabbed it because my patience ran out. The seller was a bit annoyed because he never got a chance to finger rape it and maybe unscrew the action with a screwdriver too small and damage the slots in it kek
>>64888821>>64888826yeah, that's why I think the groups were bigger. the previous time I shot it at paper I was shooting nicer cci stuff, that time I was shooting super el cheapo box of bullets shit
>>64888780>>64888736>>64888832>>64888736The first AR I bought came in a case with a broken latch. I got the gun "new" for like $100 off of what it was supposed to be because it was a compliance model and I think it was in utah for some fucking reason so I was like whatever the gun itself was fine and everything else was there. there was no box around the case which was odd. My mossberg retrograde came with the most ass checkering job on the pistol grip too
>>64885807 >>64886023>two minutes from a semi autobetty guud
>>64888843I don't even buy that stuff to be honest, when I go out hunting I'll fire like 5 shots so I may as well spend the extra 35c and have my gun hit what I'm shooting at
>>64888911I usually only use my .22 for plinking. I have a national match HBAR for target shooting and my state is a gay shotgun/air rifle only hunting state and I have a mossberg
>>64888919Yeah it's pretty sad about the state of hunting around the world, that's really what shooting is all about but hardly anyone has access to the good stuff and most places they can't hunt year round. I'm about 45 min away from a massive deer hunting forest, 20 min drive 25 min walk. Pretty lucky but still rarely get anything lolPic rel but that's about the most beautiful spot the rest is largely dense bush
>>64888952those hills remind me of where I grew up
>>64888972Probably didn't look like this on the inside though. No cell signal, few trails all of which are animal trails that don't go anywhere particularly logical, easy to get lost
>>64888952Can hunt year-round here, no license required just don't do it within the city limits. Sounds appealing until you find out it's because we're inundated with pests. There's no decent game anywhere near us, just parasites and mange, can't even eat the rabbits because of the pesticides we spread. Closest thing to decent hunting I've ever done here was being invited to take a pair of escaped goats, but the ability to walk up and pet one before you politely execute it really detracts from the experience.
>>64889094Ok that's still something. I think walking around pinging varmints is one of the best things to do. Big game hunting is cool until you realize you fire 1 shot per 10 hours walking kek
