Post em. I also have a chicom chest rig with a baofeng and an Alice pack full of MREs and water bottles
>>64846289I don't get the no optics AKs because at this point, they aren't even cheaper than ARs
>>64846322Optics are a meme, kid. Git gud.
>>64846335both of my target rifles only have irons but by defensive carbine has a dot. I've shot tighter groups on the same rifle with a dot vs irons, which isn't even bringing up the fact I can shoot a dot with both eyes open, it's faster and it works as a night sight
>>64846289ALICE = fren :)
>>64846289
>>64846289>>64846581Needs armor.
>>64846581what's the bike lock for?>>64846561I live in a cuckstate and made an alice harness with mollie belt abomination so I could use the digital camo GWoT grenade pouches which will hold two 10 round cuck mags, provided you soak them in water and stretch them with mags and cardboard or pencils to break them in
>>64846593That's a suicide cord, anon.
>>64846594Anon, that's a suicide cord.Male to male power connector.
>>64846561Based
>>64846590Speed>armor
>>64846322I paid $499 for that AK ten years ago and have a TON of trigger time on it. Rifle is fine.
>>64846631You will not be doing 10 mile forced marches.You WILL man ze checkpoint. You WILL put on ze armor.
>>64846631Until you get nailed by tactical timmy in the woods with a .308 and a thermal. Oh wait, shit, that gaping chest wound! If only there was... a plate!don't buy those 4400s, they're expired / recalled plates that were formerly NIJ suspended. Buy some Gilliam 1023s or Protech 2014Gs if you're hard up. If dead broke, the TitanXP plates in pic rel might be worth looking at.
>>64846646answer me this, boog fag. why am I going to be fighting tactical timmy in the woods?
>>64846802You will not be fighting tactical timmy in the woods. Tactical timmy will be attacking you from the woods because he spent all his money on a $5k thermal and needs your food.
>>64846289>hey doods i have a bunch of stuff thats been obsolete for decades despite living in a literal fucking arms bazzaar>i dont actually train we any of it>or i wouldnt have it>you should really take me seriouslyNo.
>>64846848Why are you seething? Post your loadout
>>64846825This shit will never happen dude We do this for fun
>>64846889>postPost what? I have different set ups for different situations>edc>i should probably have a long gun>oh fuck i should really have a long gun>have long gunSame with packs and clothing.
does a 22lr bolt-action rifle + 9mm pistol loadout make sense?
>>64846970>dur post what???>proceeds to list the things he should posteuropoor nogun
>>64846289MY ASS IS HEAVY
>>64846970noguns lol
>>64846322
>>64848591maybe you're not so bad
>>64847542>>64848536>assemble gear>take photo>email to desktop>download to computer>upload to k>to appease some no shoots casualslol
>>64848685>casualgo back to re*dit, normie
>>64848591>no timestampnot your gun, yurotranny
>>64848591edgy bitch, you failed the critical test. good weapons don't require faggotry optics and flashlights at all.
>no shoots casuals
>>64846322If iron sighted AK74s are good enough for Ukrainichads shawcking ruskies then it’s good enough for me.
>>64846289maybe one day you'll learn what a proper loadout looks like
>>64848823>chads
>>64848523Man I wish someone made a modernized LBVE-88. Seems like the best of both worlds, with both belt kit and chest rig but on a suspender system to help with weight.
>>64848823The only ones using irons are those who can't afford optics.
>>64848861>>64849482I’m sorry but have ether of you single handedly crippled the second largest military on the planet and killed 1.2 million invaders? No? Okay then shut the fuck up, you LARPers don’t know shit.>but muh optics are just like my favorite YouTube and le heckin’ navy seal! >if you don’t own (((product))) you’re so NGMI bro!
>we actually train>in this old gearlol
>>64849655Every single one of those dudes wants lighter better gear. They all want optics. Units get incentivized to kill more pidors by the promise of better shit. You don't shoot. You don't train, and you have never been forced into dealing with inclement weather.
>>64846918>fails to defend his choices>results to 'just having fun BRO'
>>64849767TACTICAL TIMMY SPOTTED
>>64846289Here's half of mine
>you can't train with old equipmentI hate tacticool normie so god damn much it's unbelievable.
>>64849759Used train every weekend before my injury, would spend half my paycheck on ammo. Was probably the best shot in my county, and I could probably outshoot you even with a fucked up recovering arm. Optics are nice but they are a crutch, good shooting comes from fundamentals developed from irons. You can always tell how confident a shooter is when you remove his optics or swap him to a basic bitch set up. Reminds me of the Olympic shooter pic or that vid T. rex arms made a while back where they all shot M4A1 instead of gucci rifles and sucked because they were all so used to geissele triggers and free-floated barrels.Anyway yeah, here’s my setups, now show me yours or by the rules of internet tough guys you loose.
>>64846646>Worried about getting got by a sniper with thermals innawoods>Uhhh I know what the solution to that is, a plate!You're just going to get shot again or he's going to put one in the fatal triangle or your pelvis instead. The actual solution to this is a cheap thermal monocular and scanning from cover before moving. The best solution however is a cheapish $800-$1000 dollar thermal drone and scouting your next AO before moving into it.>Inb4 antidrone malding
>>64849835>here’s my setups, now show me yours or by the rules of internet tough guys you loose.lmao, you LOST by "posting yours" in the first place ass licker
>>64849877I refer you to this thread: >>64849705You have lost my good sir.
>>64849655>stop an army of Neanderthals from steamrolling you>this means any and all equipment you were using is actually combat proven and the bestSo we're just gonna forget the 20 years in the sandbox and the lessons learned with optics and body armor because one poorfag army wasn't decimated by another, larger poorfag army?
>>64849835That's a combloc collection not "set ups". I don't take gun selfies. Saying that you can overcome the downsides of iron sights over optics by training harder is letters to Santa tier hope casting. I have given you several chances. You have wasted them all. I have no choice but to dub thee Filthy Casual.
>>64849790>>64849800>>64849835Not him but this guy makes an interesting point that I would like to counter: >>64849985> 20 years in the sandbox The result was the army adopting a fuck-heavy battle rifle because patrols occasionally got lit up from a PKM at 1000+ meters, a glitchy scope that makes every man a designated marksman when it’s not causing the rifle to ND, and a cartridge that is stupid hot thinking that modern body armor = invincible. Honestly probably not the best lessons to take away from a dated conflict. The GWOT would have been so fundamental different if both the coalition and the insurgents had cheep drones and cheap modern ISR. Ukraine and Gaza are far more relevant to take lessons from as a prepared citizens in the US. All long range combat of the future will be done by FPVs, UGVs and conventional air power when applicable. Infantry will only be used for close combat operations like clearing buildings, bunkers and other strategic fortifications. SF will continue to be used for direct action raids but that’s what they are were originally intended for so it’s more a return to forum for them. As a civilian learning what Ukraine has done successfully is far more relevant to your skill set than trying to LARP as a SF doing night raids on thirdies. I’ve tried to explain this to my no-service faggot acquaintances but some of them still think that LARPing as the 75th ranger regiment and shooting 3-gun is the epitome of a SHTF survivalist. You guys on here like to shitpost about gear, guns and enjoying the John Wayne fantasy, which it fine but how many of you have practiced SERE? How many of you are actively training to use and counter small drones and UAVs? Like it or not these are the tools of the future and anyone serious about surviving a SHTF scenario where you and your buddies might be fighting an organized force then there’s no excuse for you not to include this stuff in your LARP.
>>64850177troll
>>64850181>"How many of you are actively training to use and counter small drones and UAVs? Like it or not these are the tools of the future">"hurr durr you should be training like ukraine if you want to win!"lmao drones arent shit, and the US isnt some fucking impoverished klepotcratic shit hole like ukraine dependent on natos hand-me-downs it didnt even want anyway.. we have air superiority everywhere we go. we dont advance without first sending special forces and spec-ops to clear the battlespace. and after its cleared, we only move in after under cover of maximum aerial supremacy. its called maneuver warfare. the US isnt stupid enough to be tricked into Russian monkey style trench warfarce and artillery meat grindingwe have weapons im not even comfortable telling you about, that could scatter the entire Russian front in a single afternoon, in totality. we cant risk giving that to ukraine and potentially having it sold or stolen by some thieving brown handed slav. you larpers who think all of war is now drones and FPV's simply because ukraine and Russia got into a slavic woodchipper in western Russia have lost the plot entirelyyou cant find the forest from the trees. high-speed low drag operators will always win warsthe same as in ww2, nam, and the dune-coon wars. guess who won the war?>(spec ops fully kitted out with alien tech)imagine being so european you think west Russia is the center of all the world and warfare
>>64850177> I don't take gun selfiesCuz you dont own any LAMO! You’re like that one kid from school who never brought anything to show and tell because he was poor and didn’t have anything cool to show off. If you own cool shit you want to show people. It’s human nature. If you say otherwise you’re a lying faggot noguns.
>>64850181>GWOT would have been so fundamental different if both the coalition and the insurgents had cheep drones and cheap modern ISR. >he doesn't knowThe US had Switchblades. ISIS used DJI swarms, which were promptly jammed out of existence just like the wireless mines.
>>64850252Did you even read my post you imbecile? > Ukraine and Gaza are far more relevant to take lessons from as a prepared citizens in the US.As in a SHFT scenario you ignorant fuck. You need to get your fucking head and eyes checked you never-served retarded faggot piece of shit. You WILL get a hellfire missile dropped on you if you fight the government. In an economic collapse the best and most effective factions that arise will be using cheap drones and the tactics will look like what you see in Ukraine. > high-speed low drag operators will always win warsAir support wins wars. Every time I’ve worked with army SF faggots they always hid in hesco bunkers and begged Air Force chads to come bail them out. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. The SF guys were only there for an ego boost and to sign book deals the moment the op was over. The fact is SF have never won a war, air support has. Cope seethe and dilate army fag.
>>64850181What you said has some merit, I just want to rebuke the notion that because Ukraine managed to not get steamrolled by Russia without armor and optics that the average civilian should too. Anyone saying optics are a crutch are fucking drooling retards, full stop. Even cheap red dots have the battery life of a Casio and similar durability and magnfied optics are basically cheating by comparison, there's no reason to pick irons over them aside from contrarianism. As for armor, yeah hard armor is a meme for civvies, it's just so heavy and severely restricts how much other important stuff you can carry. On the flip side, soft kevlar armor is lightweight, can save you from most handgun rounds, shrapnel, and ricochets, I'd say you'd be a fool to pass on a copsurp soft vest.>muh dronesAnother layer of warfare, the in-between of small mortars and long range missiles. In other words, the threat hasn't significantly changed since the Obama age of MQ-9 weddings. I'm looking into integrating an FPV for scouting but as a weapons system for civilians its a bad idea since we don't have mortar shells just lying around we can tape to quadcopters. Really (and no, I'm not encouraging this behavior) if anyone is serious about prepping they should know how and be good at making explosives. Nothing else, be it EW, marksmanship, night fighting, or what have you will make more of a difference than blowing shit up
>>64848841Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
>>64850326> Nothing else, be it EW, marksmanship, night fighting, or what have you will make more of a difference than blowing shit upBased and Ted Kaczynski pilled.
>>64849874>You're just going to get shot again or he's going to put one in the fatal triangle or your pelvis insteadPlates aren't an invincibility shield, they just give you a fighting chance. If he has to try his luck at a second vitals hit (which a good plate will stop again) or putting one in the pelvis then the armor has done its job.SAPIs and ESAPIs have endless stories of saving peoples' asses from snipers in more than twenty years of sandbox business. Use a monocular and plates. Thermals are a cheat code but they don't spot everything, especially if they're cheapo and the sensor specs are gameboy level.
>>64850256>If you own cool shit you want to show peopleThey're guns bud. Mass produced. Once you put enough rounds through them you will stop giving a shit. You will buy modern gear and quit fucking around.
>>64850326iron sights are good for training marksmanship fundamentals and I think everyone should practice with them, but that said the rifle I would use if anything happened has an optic. I think marksmanship is the most important skill because having to shoot criminals and looters is the most likely situation. though I will admit that anything more intense than that is explosives time.>>64850400noguns troll. go back.
>>64846561>>64849800I think the glock knife has become the go to knife to throw on alice gear nowadays, hell, I had one on mine before I picked up a kabar
>>64850293>he thinks his chink toy drones will work on fucking delta force because it worked in west-Russiahow bad was the bleeding from your wifes anus after the BLACK-OPPs jody-chad got done with her?
>bro we're totally going to use $10,000 drones and plastic explosives when the boogalo hits the suburbs for real this timeYou won't do shit stop embarrassing yourself with fantasy.
>>64848891would be based>>64849655there is no such thing as a Yuropean chad. all yuros are dickless globohomo thirdies, humans included.
>>64849835>t. brown yurothirdie who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from 50 paces
>>64850181>brown third world globohomo trannies fighting in the third world is more relevant to Americans lmao no
>>64850326>Anyone saying optics are a crutch are fucking drooling retards, full stop. Even cheap red dots have the battery life of a Casio and similar durability and magnfied optics are basically cheating by comparison, there's no reason to pick irons over them aside from contrarianism.this. just the fact you can use red dots as night sights makes them better than irons
>>64850838>reddit spacingshalom third world yurotranny
>mfw too fat to reasonably wear any kind of kt properly
>>64846599Anon, that's a suicide cord.
>>64850343Snackrolling the mojavelicious fillmost caramakel you satiswish for a nuclear whunger.
>>64848523probably then ugliest rifle I've ever seen, combined with the inox makes you look like a 90's bad guy in a B film lol.
>>64851675Sovl
>>64849790M'nigger what light is that on the ar?
>>64846322Not everyone is poor. Some people like what they like
>>64852075>ugliest rifle I've ever seenYeah. I kind of have buyers remorse for the EBR chassis lol, but its just okay enough for me not to uninstall and sell it. The traditional stock was bedded and arguably more accurate, but every time I scratched/dented it parts of my soul would die. >makes you look like a 90's bad guy in a B film lolThat's the look I usually go for. I like being a faceless goon.
>>64853868Is that kit surp or knockoff? Also what watch?
>>64848823good goy
>>64852771Inforce WML
>>64854506um.... you fuck dogs
>>64853868
>>64854500mot him, but that's surplus.
>>64846623man, i really want a thunder.
>>64854500Its surplus. Its just an LBV-88 (with the straight mag pouches, not the enhanced version with them canted), an M1956 pistol belt and various ALICE components to round it out. I'm wearing a flight suit, nomex gloves and VN jungle boots. It was for a MGS V diamond dogs impression, and so the LBV is configured in the same way its worn by Venom Snake and the DD soldiers (minus the stabo harness). The watch is a Garmin solar tactical and the rifle is a Daewoo DR200, which I thought looked similar to the fictional AM-MRS-4 that's in MGSV. I posted the same rig only with some additional pouches and my EBR earlier ITT. They also wear OD jump suits, in game though pic rel is tiger stripe. I also just realized they wear knee pads. But knee pads are gay.
>>64846623This guy FUCKS
>>64854949Buy one, they’re great. Also why is the thread being derailed?
>>64855284Threads get derailed on 4chan, this is just how it be.
>>64854973>But knee pads are gaySpoken like a nigga who hasn't had to kneel on cold, wet ground outside for hours.
>>64855284Loadout threads are ALWAYS derailed because this board is full of noguns eurotrash
>>64856119I was in the infantry so I had lots of time in the bush, but am too proud for knee pads. Also shit slides off and chafes, and its another thing you have to stuff in your pack on a long patrol. Wet/Cold is a non issue, it sucked not having them the most in rocky terrain.
Is there some sort of idiot's guide to getting into stuff like chest rigs and lbes like ALICE/LBV88 (and whatever thepre modern options are)? I'd rather not buy some useless temu shit too.
