Is it /k/???Who had the best kit?
>>64846618>Big burly faggots and an alpha twink power bottom fight for a king who got cucked against a bunch of uppity faggots who managed to lose with the defensive AND Olympic edge.100% /k/.
>>64846618The Illiad: when NTR goes too far.
>>64846618>Ares jobs againAthena is the best god of war
>>64846650VGH.... TRVKE
Ajax never killed himself its fake propaganda made by the Phoenician-Mede cabal and only believed by their sissy serfs.
I read it decades ago but I remember someone looting an epic chest piece from a river spirit
>>64847315Sure and Patroclus & Achilles' are just roommates.
>>64847341>>64847295>>64846650It's really funny that fags want to associate with Achilles and Patroclus when, if that's the case, Achilles was fucking his little boy cousin, who was also already a bipolar murderer when they met.
Thersites was a real human bean
>>64847379>copes and seethes about gay cousinfucking between serial killers Patroclus Batemanus and Paulus Allenus.>he doesn't know the Mausoleum of Halicarnassus, one of the SEVEN WONDERS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD, was devoted to BROTHER-SISTER INCEST MONARCHS>he doesn't know about the PHARAOS AEGYPTANIhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_at_Halicarnassusget filtered plebeian.
>>64846618Hector could have simply had his archers cut the faggot down but he had to diena meaningless death to appease the faggot he could have had killed.His Brother had more brain than him
>>64847411If his brother had any brain, the little retard wouldn't have stolen another king's wife and drawn Zeus' ire for breaking sacred hospitality.
>>64847341yes
>>64847341Lmao, is that really his headstone? I always only half-believed he actually died, what a fake and gay way to go. His existence made /fit/ a worse place.>Sergeyevich.Lol. Lmao.
>>64846650>>64847007>>64847295Why is western civilization like this???
every time I read ancient greek literature I get distracted by all the rape, sexual misconduct, and little boy anal fucking. This triggers my ptsd because we had a big problem with this in afghanistan and we weren't allowed to shoot jeets that were raping people, because obama is a nicker
>>64846618Diomedes. After Achilles the mary-sue golden wonderboy, Ajax and Diomedes were considered the best fighters, but Diomedes wasn’t a brute like Ajax.
>>64848671>little boy anal fucking.Well, how do YOU fuck little boys?
No.64848665temperory gay is fine but in rome you had to have wife and fuck her and only have relation ship with womanif you got the aids you have to die.rules man.you could only fuck a dude on the battle field because moralchinks did this too for a while ming dysesty but it was fround upon it was fround apon in greece and rome too but it didn't stop themfunny how easterners have a ton of samurai have gay sex with white menbut when its the other way around there is out rage.okay hypocrite you must be korean.korean is always prude,my wife was volietbut always had the white bros bottom bros at the camp.that was tradition50's was attempt to christainise the millitary because it was full of bi chads.there is never a tradition only hateing hewbewsand dispacting them germany has in common with rome and greece and turkeyyou know nothing child.modern people think bing gay is natural but its not. its just being edgy. and yes you still go to hell.choice is yours /k/doesn't mean that you ever stop loving weapons and fighting.
>>64846618>Who had the best kit?There is a fairly hilarious amount of description in the Iliad about how pimped out each hero's armor and shield is, but the answer is Achilles and Homer doesn't even try to make it fair. Achilles has the bestest Hephaestus forged armor and then goes super saiyan and gets super Hephaestus forged armor mark II that's blinding to even behold.You could pull out a trump card and say actually the best armor was Athena wearing the Aegis but that's like a weird mythic thing that doesn't actually ever get attacked with a weapon and deflect the blow.
>>64848692Oral only
>>64847409Fertile incest is based though. I only commented on gay shit ass aids incest.
>>64847411That wouldn't have fucking worked retard. Have you even read it?
>>64846618How about posting their kits?
>>64847007Does it really count as ntr though?
>>64848726Shout-out to my boy Teucer who was the greatest archer, champion of apollo, who was unfortunately at war with Apollo. He's both cursed to never hit who he's aiming at, but blessed to always hit an enemy. So he keeps missing and hitting random guys. I think he's even complimented for a shot at one point, because it was so improbable and they think he did it on purpose.
>>64848785Oral doesn't count.
I always wondered if Helen was a boy cause I don't see the Greeks launching that many ships for a mere woman?
Notwatchingyourfilmstealth-marketer
>>64848697Holy ESL
>>64848726Probably true>>64849019Thanks for the pic actually cool
We can all agree Neoptolemus went a little too far right?
>>64849583Futa.
>>64847341Is that Chestbrahs brother? Cardiac Arrest Brah?
>>64846618Yesand it was Diomedes with his big dick boarding pike; he uses it to fuck the Trojans UP when they get pushed back to the boats in one of the earlier books
>>64848671> little boy anal fucking. There is literally none of this in the Illiad thougheverThe Illiad was written in the early archaic period and pederasty wasnt normalized until way later
>>64849050I laughed out loud when I originally read that
>>64849019Boar Tusk Helmet my belovedI want to make one but I have no idea how to hunt boars and it wouldn't feel right getting the tusks from someone else
>>64851079I thought that was one of the Ajax's? Am I misremembering?
>>64851483I am actually the one misremembering-- you are correct it is actually Ajax
>>64848726>There is a fairly hilarious amount of description in the Iliad about how pimped out each hero's armor and shield isReminder that the Trojan Cycle was literally the Ancient Greek equivalent of DBZ, right down to power level autism.>Achilles has the bestest Hephaestus forged armorI like how portrayals of Achilles' second panoply tends to get depicted in both ancient and current media as far closer to "modern" (i.e. contemporary with the age that Homer was writing from) armor than than that of the other heroes. It's a nice way of showing how "advanced" it is
>>64851526I see. Diomedes still the better character though
>>64848726Achilles' shield alone...
>>64847295>reject modernity (consumerism)>embrace tradition (consumerism)
>>64849012shut the fuck up fat retard
>>64849851Everything makes sense now
>>64849022>mindbreak via Eros' arrowit's classic NTR
>>64846650>>64848665>>64847341>>64847409>>64848671None of the heroes in the Illiad or Oddyssey are depicted as gay.Pederasty entered the Greek culture centuries later.
>>64847341>>64847379>>64847409They are not gay, you brainwashed idiots. Sucking dick is the normal recreational activity for hoplites in a phalanx. When I served in the sacred band, between 371-370 BC, we practiced this. We would put a dick on the lips of our eromenos to strengthen the bond between us. For what man would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger? This is a common practice and has nothing to do with homosexuality like you barbarians do.
>>64852852>complains about gay history>insists history was super gayWhat makes the cock sucking right so closeted?
>>64849019I had this book, its great because the women's attire is historically accurate too (their tits are exposed).
>>64852816Futt bucking has been around since the human race built the first mud hut in Africa. I'm sorry your cognitive dissonance cannot let you accept historical facts. Have you thought of studying history outside of what KristosTradOrtho42069 said on Tiktok?
>>64851119remarkebly easy in much of america, they are an invasive pest species. If you can contact a farmer who doesn't want to charge you it can be basically free sans gun. Youtube's full of boar hunt videos, spear hunting, helicopter hunting and regular hunting. If you want to be effective at pest control caged corn despondence with a drop gate and night vision camera seems the most effective way, you'll have to wait a few days to get the whole pack all at once since pigs are one of the smarter farm animals.
>>64852816>Greeks didn't invent twinks and femboys until laterSure, buddy.
>>64852816There is no evidence for this position. On the other hand, there's no direct evidence for the case that Achilles and Patroclus were lovers. What we actually know is that about 200 years after Homer (and about 600 years after the historical occurrence of the Trojan War), pederasty was an entrenched institution in Greek life, and Achilles and Patroclus were considered by those Greeks to be the idealized example of a pederastic relationship. As for when it arose, and if it was in response to the massive popularity of the Iliad or of it was something that predates the Trojan War, we don't have any information.
>>64853726I'd have toI'm a leaf with a few guns but for some unknown and probably fucking retarded reason they've banned boar hunting in my province even though they're an invasive species, with the exception of landowners killing them on their own land, so I suppose I could start to ask around
>>64848665The east is just as fruity, if not more so
>>64849820>death by twinkhorrible way to go
>>64852647Mad fag over here.
>>64851097Achiles was severely mentally ill and Patroclus was a prancing faggot who murdered as a little boy so I could actually see it, it's just not a "favorable" image for fags lmao.
>>64853893>>64853684>>64854001What we actually know is that homosexuality constituted a micro fraction of artistic portrayals in Greece, as it did in many cultures, the portrayals of which have been exaggerated and intentionally over exposed by members of a specific bloodline.Just remember when you talk about gay greeks you're quoting the """British""" proto-fed who spent much of his life drugging and raping the men and children of the Sentinel Islands tribes.
>>64857282>What we actually know is that homosexuality constituted a micro fraction of artistic portrayals in Greece, This is true, although sexuality in general constituted a small fraction of ancient Greek art, and artistic portrayals of homosexuality are actually overrepresented among ancient Greek art compared to the prevalence of homosexuals compared to heterosexuals today.>as it did in many cultures, Also true.>the portrayals of which have been exaggerated and intentionally over exposed by members of a specific bloodline.We don't actually have any evidence of this.>Just remember when you talk about gay greeks you're quoting the """British""" proto-fed who spent much of his life drugging and raping the men and children of the Sentinel Islands tribes.I have no idea who you're talking about, but you clearly haven't read the Greeks.
The Romans get a ton of credit for creating a bunch of stuff the Greeks actually invented. Instead they simply innovated, like adding women to orgies…
>>64852963I was unaware the Greeks did that. Only the Minoans, who got obliterated by the Greeks.
>>64849012>Fertile incest is basedOk paki
>>64857299>Defending the antigun tribe and homos Go back
>>64847341we're all gonna make it, brah
>>64858508I'm not defending them, I'm pointing out that speculation is not evidence.
>>64847341Rest in power prince.
>>64851607Achilles's second panoply was literally made in a factory.In general, the thing that stuck with me the most was the descriptions of Hephaestus as a genuine autist playing Factorio just outside of the seat of the gods. He had a harem of robot maids and everything.
>>64848031go fuck yourself lanklet
>>64852852I want this to be copypasta every time gay shit is brought up. Let the pidorashkas never forget how gay they really are.
>>64860344It's funny because the same way pidors have their "we may suck other dudes' cocks but we don't have pride parades like those fags in the US" shtick, the Greeks were constantly saying stuff like "we may jerk off little boys, but we don't fuck them in the ass like those fags in Thebes." Doing gay shit while calling other people fags is a recurring trope through all of history.
>>64860307You shouldn't be idolizing someone who lived and died like that. A literal modern Faustian cautionary tale. He probably sucked dick, too..
>>64860466the guy did too many roids and died of heart failure, that's not a good example to follow, but he's inspired hundreds of thousands if not millions to improve themselves and he was by all accounts a pretty decent dude. You're insulting a dead man who's had more impact on the world than you ever will. go fuck yourself
Anybody else read The War Nerd's translation of the Illiad?
>>64860643He has done no such thing. He was a humongous ego on misc, of all places, not even /fit/. Might as well say tinychimp inspired people to grow tall.He did proto-influencer shit before it was a thing, for free, did roids to bang bitches, then died. Even the "we all gonna make it" can't be attributed to him clearly.You should listen to the people who actually care about you and do some skateboard squats while drinking a galon of milk a day.
>>64860948What's with that fevered nightmare?
>>64852816Objectively false
>>64847341i miss zyzz :(
>>64860990No idea, but after reading that translation of the Iliad it feels appropriate. The way the ancient Greeks thought is very alien to modern people. The translation adds a lot of context that the translation I read in highschool didn't have, it really emphasizes things that most translations gloss over in a word or two but which the ancient Greeks would have understood as having a lot of additional meaning. It's also in very casual prose, like the old War Nerd articles from The Exile, which were written by the same guy. I really recommend it, you can find it on libgen.
>>64847411>Athena carries the fight for AchillesHector was boned no matter what he did. The big Z Man was always going to fuck Troy over, he was just making the Argives suffer for it because one of the Nepobabies got upset.
>>64861545>Hector was boned no matter what he didYeah because he wasn't as strong and had worse gear.>The big Z Man was always going to fuck Troy overThey could have burned Paris alive and given back Helen.
>>64861551>They could have burned Paris alive and given back HelenZeus wouldn't have let them.
>the normies: ugh yeah i had to read it mythology, history pretty cool i guess>the linguistoids: muh dactylic hexameter, muh dum-da-da, muh wavy flow>the autists: I SHALL PULL A PATTON AND CAMP IN HISARLIK AND LAY ON THE GROUND JUST TO REMEMBER THROUGH THE BLOODS OF THE AGES / WE WILL HEAR THE BUGLE'S CALL>the raped: thehe buttsex gay leaky anus hihi
>>64846618DIOMEDES IS THE MAN
>>64847411God, Ruebens was a hack.
>>64863684WHO'S A MAN AND A HALF
>>64847315ThisIf Ajax killed himself how is he in my kitchen cleaning my dishes?Checkmate atheists
>>64861553That's reductive. If they'd done the right thing they wouldn't have been punished for doing the wrong thing.
For me, it's Diomedes.
Hands down Diomedes. Sent Aphrodite and Ares back to the heavens wounded and was a monster regardless if Athena was helping or not.Honorable and not nearly as fucked up as many others.
>>64846618>Who had the best kit?AchillesLater, Odysseus.Definitely not Ajax.
>>64869275Not because of his Kit though, don't you remember? That was the question, who has the best kit.He even traded armor with a literal nobody he promised not to kill for almost no reason because he's based and insane.
>>64869275Diomedes and Odysseus struck me as the only two people in the whole army who were trying to *win* rather than trying to *fight*.
>>64852816This is actually just a dumb nigger coping
>>64869275>>64871244I like Diomedes too. He was mostly running a spear not a sword right?
>>64846618It's so much NOT /k/ that it circles around to being /k/.The entire point of the Illiad is that it doesn't matter how competent or incompetent you are, your performances on a battlefield are predetermined by finicky kings and gods, so even if you are a blessed named character you should just go out and get killed over stupid NTR drama for Zeus' pleasure.And the autists here (rightfully) rage against how fucking stupid that is and how they have a better understanding of tactics and logistics and could win for their preferred side. And yeah /k/'s denizens are right, they do know better. But they're still missing the point that their superiors will fuck them over and get them killed anyway.
>>64871960Diomedes liked throwing his weapons, so if I recall he'd go from Spear to Sword. He even one-shot that fag Aeneas with a rock.>>64872001Diomedes says fuck you faggot. Also Zeus' whole story is him frantically trying, and often failing, to steer a growing disaster from getting worse.
>>64856812>The east is just as fruity, if not more soIt's almost like some level of queerness is just a statistically reliable outcome from making humans because some percentage of us turn out that way.There seems to be some evolutionary benefit to it, hard to say what but something like childless adults being useful to the tribe because they're not tied down or something.
>>64876914It's almost like outlier behaviors are more likely to be depicted in art, and this has been true of every culture in human history for reasons that should be obvious to anyone with a functioning frontal lobe.
>>64877514I think you're quite wrong for reasons that would be tedious to explain and you don't sound receptive to other ideas anyway. You're right about outliers being interesting but neglect other factors to do with audience size, cultural taboos, and other stuff.
>>64872960Throwing spear, sword, random rock, yeah that's a good kit
>>64877676I'll consider your gay sounding opinion if you post your gun with timestamp.
>rules based gay sexI hate political studies, can I just watch the national geographic historical drama series on the whiteboard please?
>>64880064Your opinion boils down to:>there haven't always been gays>straight people have just always been obsessed with gays
>>64880162>There have always been a tiny number of deviants per capita>Fiction features outlier behaviors at a greater rate than it's statistical prevalence, positive and negative. This is patently obvious.>The amount (heavily exaggerated while we're at it) of sexual deviancy present in Greek Fiction has been used by bad faith sources to imply a commonality of those behaviors that did not exist.But, you've used the "Obsessed" meme, so it's all but assured now you're just a bitter raiding faggot and should return to your own site.
>>64882964How about how common it is in Greek nonfiction?
>>64857273>Achilleus was the archaic equivalent of a trooned-out Nazi biker dad shooting up a hockey rink
>>64847007Why can't I find a man like that
>>64882964>features outlier behaviors at a greater rate than it's statistical prevalence>heavily exaggeratedThat sure sounds like obsession.
>>64883901That's no gun and mindless repetition of fag memes, you could have just started the conversation by saying you were from reddit.
>>64885402>obsessed with gays and reddit bothNext you're going to start on some culture war bait.
