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If this shit went down in America, how differently would it have unfolded?
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>>64847666
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>>64847666
You could at least give us a brief rundown of the incident if you want people to discuss it Satan.
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>>64847713
Beslan is common /k/ lore, newfriend. Someone post the Beslan image, I am on phone.
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It wouldn't have gone down the way it did.
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Ask Uvalde PD.
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>>64847722
I don't think I've ever heard of it in the last decade of browsing here, but fuck it I believe you.
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>>64847666
Depends what you mean. General consensus is that Beslan was state orchestrated to justify war in the Caucasus and strengthen Putins position, are we including that dimension? If we are, then we can look to sandy hook, all gets buried and life ruination for those who question the narrative. If were just talking about the siege and the immediate response, then better in some ways and worse in others. This was around the time of the DC sniper, so first responders would have been much better armed for a fight than their Russian equivalents, so the Chechens could have expected a protracted engagement with them meaning maybe a lot of dead cops and some dead Chechens, and maybe a premature detonation of 1000 kids. With many more gun owners, the issues they had with perimeter control and armed parents trying to enter would have been complete chaos initially and also spooked the Chechens and caused them to detonate, but once the feds arrived the perimeter would be extended for several blocks and be solidly locked down, compared to the Russians who were just camped at the gates. Negotiations would have been way worse, in 2004 everyone still wanted blood for 9/11, there would be zero concessions. If you could get to day three without a big boom, Im pretty sure HRT could do a better job than Alpha, so by then you'd be in the clear.
>>64847713
Nigger if you dont know about it already then you have nothing of substance to contribute.
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>>64847741
horse shit
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>>64847758
You'd be surprised how some people miss shit happening around them.
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>>64847666
It wouldn’t have gone down like it did. There would’ve been a lot of blood in that school and then me saying “Ok, we’re gonna get out of here safely.”
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>>64847751
>all gets buried and life ruination for those who question the narrative
muh crisis actors
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>>64847758
Literally been here for 15 years and never heard of it, or if I've heard of it, it wasn't important enough to remember. Don't really care about foreigner shit.
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Who exactly in the US would be tasked with dealing with 32 heavily armed terrorists? Has there ever been anything like that happening there?
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>>64847776
>n-no please believe im not a newfag
>i dont even care about this
>thats why im here begging you to tell me more
Ok but you must be 18 to post on 4chan.
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>>64847751
>Nigger if you dont know about it already then you have nothing of substance to contribute.
I might have something to say about it if you would stop being so offended and explain what it even is.
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>>64847776
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>>64847802
FBI HRT
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DESU, while the ruskies were absolutely incompetent, it was also a tremendously shitty situation. I don’t think any western counter-terrorist unit could have pulled it off with no casualties. Granted, it’d hard to do worse than shooting thermobaric rockets into the building.
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>>64847862
>Granted, it’d hard to do worse than shooting thermobaric rockets into the building
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>>64847862
>ruskies were absolutely incompetent
It's not only about incompetence, they've specifically wanted to flood everyone in blood for political reasons.
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>>64847802
Closest event in the US would probably the siege at Waco, which also ended with incompetent and impatient glowing morons needlessly burning a bunch of kids and innocents alive, then proceeding to claim tactical and moral victory.
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>>64847666
Carpet bombing
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>>64847729
Why did /k/ get so quiet suddenly?
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>>64847803
I'm 34 lol, stay mad that no one cares about the thing you know about, literally the dumbest shit I've ever seen someone stim to.
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>>64847705
kek. CBP saved the day at that school. but they are too busy being based in Minnesota rn.
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>>64847802
>Who exactly in the US would be tasked with dealing with 32 heavily armed terrorists?
unironically the local sheriff or PD. current polcy is to go in and shoot it out immediately. after Uvalde, they don't assume it's a hostage situation any more.
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>>64848159
Imagine being proud of board ignorance.
You got presented a piece of board culture you didnt recognize and instantly became hostile.
Its time for you to leave, you never belonged.
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>>64848171
>after Uvalde
Buddy up and go in has been SOP since VTech.
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>>64847874

They also hit the place with 125mm HE from a T-72 and a few volleys of rockets from a Hind. Russians literally dgaf about all the kids hostage inside.
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>>64848159
>I'm 34
fuckin' zoomer
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>>64848178
Uvalde was different from Vtech because the incident commander came under the impression it was a hostage situation
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>>64848193
there is hypothetically a situation where there is no viable means of safely rescuing the hostages and going in just to kill the terrorists is the best option.
but i can't ever see rocket artillery being a part of any plan
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>>64848195
>hostage taker slowly trickles casualties during negotiations
Ah yes, classic tactic.
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>>64848205
I didn't say he was smart. the whole department was brown. and the IC talked like a fag
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>>64847722
>Someone post the Beslan image, I am on phone.
(me)
>>64848193
Fucking finally
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>>64848200
how about fentanyl gas? I just realized that Beslan happened 2 years after the theater siege.
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basayev = fsb
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>>64848233
I think thats a viable tactic if you bring a ton of narcan as part of the fentanyl gas kit, and distribute it to EMS personal before hand. they did not even tell the EMS what they were doing at the theater siege so a lot of the hostages just snowed out
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>>64847729
uvalde at least didn't gas and explode the kids that were inside.

this sounds like a typical seething deflection response when something subhuman that russians did is being discussed.



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