I've posted before that Pentagon should force USAF, USN, USMC to standardize on Yak-130, or maybe clean sheet same concept, for not just trainer (Chinese have version that does carrier ops, unlike new USN trainer....and if USN trainer can't do carriers, WTF does USN need diff trainer than USAF???), but the whole range of meat and potatoes, bread and butter 2nd tier roles.CAS, COIN, radar picket, missile truck, lite tanker, and even ASW.Not only are the Chinese selling their versions of this to the other half of the world, at low, low prices, the Italians are doing exactly WTF I said for non-NATO Austria. Naturally, all this can be copied by China.https://theaviationist.com/2026/02/04/indonesia-abandons-f-15ex-selects-m-346f/People have started to figure out all the ultra modern features in cars are same in base Korean cars at $100+ German, because it all comes from same production line, including the computer controlled suspension, etc.
>>64851879Bizarre post tbqh
>>64851879>at low, low prices
>>64851890We've got one guy here that's obsessed with the yak-130.This might be him or just a garden variety retard.Funnily enough, there's also an Aermacchi autist that serves as his natural predator. Isn't nature fascinating? If we're lucky he just might show up
>>64851890no, I'm mainstream, everyone else is bizarre.BTW, they should also make a Zero Launch version to slap on stern helo decks of DDs. With air2air refueling they can find somewhere else to land...most of the time.
>>64851910>here we see the retarded Yak-130 enjoyer in his natural environment, a Mongolian throat-singing discussion board. it is a young male, recently cast out from its mother's basement and her nurturing nuggets and tendies, and fending for himself for the first time. as night falls, he lifts up his head, and sends out a challenge across the board. he is marking his territory. he hopes to find a friendly herd, possibly even a mate. but his call may have attracted the attentions of another of this discussion board's denizens, one of the world's most deadliest predators.
>>64851933I just like calling it Yak to trigger and troll
>>64851933I fucking lol'd
it looks small
>>64852182its about 10% bigger than A-4 Skyhawk.its superiority lies in it was conceived as dual role trainer/lite combat when first designed.
>>64851879>>>/toy/
>>64852589at 1.4 vs 1.6, its nearly as fast as an F-35, and is one of the original "factory" launch platforms for the Chinese missiles that bagged Rafales recently.PS- F-35 has no stealth when it carries external stores, or when it shows its ass in about 110degs from behind.
>>64852670>1.4a Yak-130 isn't doing 1.4 level with stores, honey>launch platforms for the Chinese missiles that bagged Rafales recentlyyou could kill jeets in J-35s with AA-8s launched from a Mig-21, doesn't mean shit, jeets are jeets
>>64851879Hello Armatard, it's kinda funny seeing you praise the yak so much considering the Yak is way more italian than the M-346 is russian, we basically built it for you for free and had to fuck off before the ship sank after you showed your lack of expertise to continue the project. Not to mention Russia hasn't signed a single new yak contract in years while the M-346 was just ordered by Nigeria, Austria and Indonesia. It's fitting that the best jet that russia was able to field since the collapse of the Soviet Union was born only thanks to engineers from a NATO country.
>>64852749Top left picture is a MAKO concept trainer. I keep forgetting to fix the picture.
>>64851879>Not only are the Chinese selling their versions of this to the other half of the world, at low, low prices,>low low pricesAlso low quality considering on the first public flight of the AL-Fursan with the L-15 they had an hydraulic leak in 3 of their jets.
Current status. The US is extremely unlikely since the USN will choose the T-7.
>>64852749you miss points, original IDEA of mostly trainer but with lite combat baked in is what drives success.plus the Russian attributes of simple and rugged design, especially for something like a trainer that is expected to see lots of use for low cost.what does it say about the Russian original design that it was wholly adopted by ITALIANS.if there is one thing the Italians fancy themselves as is Chief Desigers.China is doing Clean Sheet designs, and picked Y-130.
>>64852785>original IDEA of mostly trainer but with lite combat baked in is what drives successYes, which wasn't pioneered by neither us italians nor you russians as LCAs have been a thing since decades before. Not to mention, the M-346FA was developed waay before an fully armed variant of the yak was available on the market. (which still has zero customers)>plus the Russian attributes of simple and rugged designIt might be simple, but it's not rugged. It's reliability and ease of maintenance is below an L-39. And the shoddy russian standards have shown it seeing the number of accident and crashes the YAK had. Western and Russian build quality and reliability are not even in the same universe. >what does it say about the Russian original design that it was wholly adopted by ITALIANS.I don't know, considering that is your fan fiction. From the initial YAK-UTS design the ONLY thing that still remains at the end of the joint venture, in both the M-346 and the Yak-130 is the configurational concept of a short central fuselage in a subsonic regime that allows the best rapport with low drag, reducing fuel consumption and improving performances., of which the russians at Yakovlev aren't even completely aware of and weren't even able to take advantage of since they built it in cheap ass heavy aluminum since they can't into composite materials. (And let's not talk about their shitty engines which make their yak have the same TWR as the ancient BAE Hawk which is single engine)>China is doing Clean Sheet designs, and picked Y-130.China did what China does, copy others. They just merged the M-346 design together with an F-18 and called it a day. The recent twin vstab prototype that was spotted is just even more evidence of that. Sorry Armatard, Russia can't into anything.
>>64852767nice map, now add in China, UAE, and Zamby.Y-130 is unique that its produced and used domestically and also sold by three different nations, Italy, Russia and China.China makes a few straight knock-off of US aircraft like Blackhawk and carrier OBD turbo-prop, but they don't sell them AFAIK.given the SEETH, its pretty amazing USA and UK would even consider buying a Russian design for anything but opposition research.pretty crazy Japan, again with proven Clean Sheet capable, would consider a Russian/Chinese design.everyone's shit is going to look same, like Ukraine all over again.
>>64852762sir, would you care to discuss the first 20yrs of F-35 and Bradley programs?last I heard, they are STILL working on being able to E-cat launch an F-35.
>>64851879>>64851890>>64851910It's the fishing boat schizo
>>64852803Armatard, You're too retarded to even have an argument with. If that's your angle, then the whole map should be blue since the Yak-130 is 90% italian as from the initial Yak-UTS design nothing has remained. You're free to keep ignoring reality and cuddling yourself in your soviet flavored lies, but everyone with a brain will just laugh at your like we did for the past 10+ years. What happened to the T-14?
>>64852803>opposition research.Anon, there is nothing that russia produces that is even worth studying for NATO. When your """"stealth"""" drone crashed in ukraine and was recovered by the ukies, together with other equipment, it wasn't even deemed worthy to bring back to the states since it's always going to be cavemen tier shit.
>>64851879If it's so good why is nobody buying the yak-130 beside third world shitholes?
>>64852815Your first mistake was trying to have an actual discussion with armatard. A sub70 IQ retard who can barely read and write his own slave scribbles, let alone an actual language like English.
>>64852799thats a lot of SEETH :)did you know there is an unbroken line of "evolution" from first P-51 to F-100 (and hence even F-107)?but like I said, what Pentagon should do is take the timeless perfection of the immortal Yak-130 concept, and do a Clean Sheet make-over, and make that a "do it all" plane.They didn't even have real CAD when they designed the Yak-130, and basically no CAD in USSR.maybe shrink it just enough to qualify for A-4 style "no folding wings needed", and a baked in Zero Launch for both land and sea.you'd want to be able to keep alert interceptors dispersed and well guarded, at least for take-off, on big trucks or on backs of ships or barges.
>>64852822sir, did you know POTUS Trump is demanding USA start making knockoffs of IRANIAN drones?
