Keltec appreciation threadAnyone here own one of these amazing weapons?>Yo, Mr Kel, should we make a AR?>Why? everone else makes one, le'ts make a hokey looking Bullpup >Oh, and let's make an FAL bullpup>uh... ok...>Oh, we need some carbines too, let's make a folding one and also a suppressed folding one>oh, let's make one based on the p90 magazine, with a short barrel of course>should we make a normal one?>sure, but make it in 22magnum and also give it a really long barrel with no option for a short barrel version like the other carbines>Shotguns? sure, but make sure they are all bizzare pup action bullpups>no regular tube magazines?>make one, but have it be 410 caliber, and give it a double tube magazine >Can we make a normal pistol?>Absolutely not, let's make everything for concealed carry>but then have a few huge sporting pistols that are wildly inconvenient >in fact, lets have a pistol based off the p90 magazine>and lets make a 5.7 pistol with clips just to annoy Califonia >can we make one full sized pistol, with magazines?>PK... but only in 22 magnum.
>>64860622Brandon whathisname is such a narcissist faggot and he should kill himself, fuck you and your noguns 15 year old faggot ass for killing a thread for this dogshit.Suck a Dick.
Unique designs but shit execution
>>64860622bump
>>64860700I hate that beaner so much.
>>64860703Name one problem with one keltec gun designed in the past 10 years. I'll wait.
>>64860622best of kekgren's designs
>>64860884>PR-3AT and PR5.7dumb reloading>P50too big, also ugly>PMR30.22mag is pointless in a pistol over 22LR, also ugly>CP33clearly built to be a PDW but then sold as a pistol without a brace or grip, also called a CP33 when 90% of people will use the 50 round magazines. also "CP" lolthe closest to a good gun they make, but larping as a pistol and could use a more powerful round like at least 380, if not 9mm>PLR16>PLR22"pistol" rifles are dumb in general>KS7>KSGbullpup pump action shotguns are dumb>KSG410meme cartridge and dumb bullpup pump shotgun>r50so ugly even you wouldn't date it>sub2000only school shooters use this>SUB CQBAbsolutely dumb meme gun with no point and ludicrously overpriced>su16>su22do we need another inferior mini-14?>RFBno, we don't need a bullpup FN-FAL>RBDvideo game ahhh gun>CMR30no short barrel option, 22mag onlynow if THIS had a shorter threaded barrel, and was available in non meme caliber, it would be ok
>>64860930>dumb>don’t needWhat shit takes. Variety is the spice of life. Besides, they’re fun. This post smacks of a fat suburban kid.
>>64860934>I like the gun so it can't be badyou asked if they had any problems. no if they were fun or not.
>>64860930>bullpup FN-FALtell me more
>>64860930Effortful shitpost/10No one who actually hates kektec knows that much of their catalogue
>>64860930I thought the RFD was the FAL, and there aren't many people making a 7.62 bullpup are there?
>>64860947Its literally THE best .308 today but is slept on
>>64860945Not that anon, sorry. And your opinions aren’t inherent problems.
>>64860980not my opinions, but a few of them are.
Please kektek make something in .25 acp
>>64860986>my shit don’t stink, cause it ain’t even my shitSoulless
>>64860622>Mr KelScrew Keltec, tell me about Keenantec.
>>64861386>The RFB is so compact, that it's the same length as a P50, PMR30, PF9, and the width one shotgun shell combinedOfficial statment
>>64861284>Please kektek make something in .25 acpSure!>makes a Revolver that fires rimmed .25
>>64861613For got to add.>Its also a Belt fed revolver.
>>64860622I generally like KT products, although usually only if I pick them up secondhand for about half what they cost new. I've owned multiple SU-16s, a Sub-2000, RDB and a CP-33. Thinking about an RFB but I don't want to deal with FAL magazines again and I don't really need another battle rifle. I'll probably pull the trigger on one of it's a stupid good deal.
>>64861613>Here you go, a 0.25acp bullpup smg!>oh, and we bought the rights to all the Calico patents, so it has a 100 round hex magazine
>>64861626>pump action!
>>64861632>a single plastic tab prevents the gun from being fully automatic >manually explicitly tells you not to break it off
>>64861661>plastic tab comes separate which you need to install first.
>>64860622>"So Kelgren, what inspired you to make the CP-33? It doesn't seem to be a competition or self-defense oriented gun, and it certainly doesn't come off as something you'd use for pest control. How did you envision it?">"It came to me in a dream."It's all based, I love it.>>64860930Your list is wrong and gay, thx.>>64861616How would you rank their durability and reliability? I know there's the joke about how Lel Keks are always made with recycled beach toy plastic, or something to that effect, but I've heard too many good things about the SUB2K and their mag-fed carry pistols for that to be a rule.
>>64860622>Can we make a normal pistol?>Absolutely notbless him for his approach. It's wild to me how hungry for ordinary people are.
>>64861812I've got an SU16 and the plastic is soft, like you can scratch it with your fingernail, it might be a bend but not break situation but it feels really cheap in your hands
>>64860930>>name a problem with Keltec>I dont like itYou. Are. Brown.
>>64860884Plastic.
>>64861812my list is absolutely true, except for">RFBno, we don't need a bullpup FN-FAL"That much power in a rifle that short, i really need to try that out.
yes>crap bullpup shotgun>crap bullpup 5.56 >bizarre high capacity handgunsbut>Olympic shooter accurate 22lr handgun>the best bullpup 762 rifle on the market, one of the best 762 rifles in general
>>64860622I love my RFB (and RDB)
>>64862035Nice, what ACOG?
>>64862703TA11
>>64862035proper pit anon
>>64862019Allow me to correct myself then: half your list is faggy non-statements that don't address any actual problems with the firearms themselves.>>64860930>>P50>too big, also uglySubjective, not quantifiable as an actual problem with the gun.>>PMR30>.22mag is pointless in a pistol over 22LR, also uglySee above.>>PLR16>>PLR22>"pistol" rifles are dumb in generalSee above.>>r50>so ugly even you wouldn't date itSee above.>>sub2000>only school shooters use thisNot even remotely true.>>RBD>video game ahhh gunThis isn't even a statement, it's just faggot Zoomer speak.my list of your wrong dumb gay thoughts and how they're wrong is entirely correct btw
>>64861812I haven't had many problems with reliability, but durability is a different story. You can feel plastic flexing and it is readily apparent that throwing it around will break something. This is more of a problem on the long guns than the handguns, but I don't think any of their designs are particularly resistant to abuse.
>>64862905>>>PMR30>>.22mag is pointless in a pistol over 22LR, also ugly>See above.that's legitimate. What is the benefit of 22mag over 22lr in a pistol?
>>64860700Fpbp
>>64860700But what's your opinion on Keltec?
Has anyone made a full auto CP33 yet, just for curiosity?
the RDB-S is the peak of bullpups. you wont get a smaller 16" rifle.
>>64860622Would be neat if the Sub2k had a 22lr version.
>>64863963bruh
I really, really wish the SU16 didn't have such a poor reputation for being flimsy. I would love one as a car/camping rifle, I like the idea of a compact folder thats light and takes AR mags.
>>64864346did they ever fix the snapping in half thing at 4-5k? i know they claimed they had but at the sametime nobody since then actually shot a su16 to that point since ars got cheaper.
Keltec is not to be trusted.
>>64864377oh wow people use that 20 dollar airsoft optic
>>64860930>video game ahhh gunWhat the fuck is an ahhh gun? Is this a brown person thing?
>>64864381optic lasted longer than the gun did ;_;
I respect Keltec more than any other gun maker. I own no Keltec products…yet. They actually try new and interesting stuff and their designs are generally quite good, you just might have qc issue.
>>64862905>>64864390>Video game gunI'm pretty sure it's never even been in a video game too
>>64860930He said ONE you pedantic faggot.>>64862012>based colorer inside the lines type guyBut is it?
>>64863963>>64864345Worthy of <$400. Would.
>>64860970I depression ordered one I'm picking up today, what am I in for? So far what the fuck is with FAL mags? I got a couple dsa mags but now I read they won't work
Anyone know what rifle our boy is holding in this photo?I'm guessing it's a prototype that never made it into production.
>>64860930>video game AAAAHHHHHHHHH gunDid you see a cockroach or a rat mid sentence?
>>64865083Buy surplus on gunbroker. The DSA plastics are okay for range trips but not ideal.
semi auto bullpup shotgun when?
>>64865264They can't even get the KSG to run reliably, I wouldn't hold my breath.Besides the Tavor TS12 exists and it works fairly well. It sure would be nice if you patronized an Israeli company and bought one of their guns Anon. Do the right thing ;)
>>64865264Not wild and wacky enough. We need more drug-inspired lunacy.Maybe a Sjögren-patent inertia locking system? Top mounted helical mag?Telescoping spike bayonet?
>>64865264>semi auto bullpup shotgunmagazine fed, available in 12, 20, and a 410 version with a 30 round magazine for some inexplicable reason
>>64865242The 2 new DSAs I ordered are too fat, not sure if I should try trimming them down or returning them. Sucks cause they seem way better than the factory shit. But God damn this thing is tiny and neat. I finally have somewhere to stick this poorfag cope sightmark
>>64860622Bullpups are the future.
>>64862032Can you elaborate on this bullpup 7.62? I had written KT off as meme tier fever dream nonsense
I want to buy the ODG RFB but there are 2 UPCs and I want to determine the difference. It is expensive but I found out the RFB has a chrome-lined barrel.
>>64867496The RFB is actually good as long as it's maintained. the gas system needs to be properly set up, and it's a very complicated forward ejection mechanism.Unusually for Keltec, the build quality is good, the accuracy is astonishing, the trigger is top qualityUnlike their 556 gun where the whole appeal is the bullpup nature, but it's inferior to most 556 rifles, the RFB is a legitimately great 762 rifle, with performance comparable to even high quality standard 762 rifles, but all the benefits of a bullpup. This isn't just my bias for bullpups, the RFB is the best 762 you can currently get, and it's smaller than a FOLDED FAL paratrooper
>>64867416something wrong with the perspective or is the rfb really just that small?
>>64860700tranny moment
>>64867930M7 Sig should be replaced by RFB chambered in 6.8x51
>>64860921Reminds me of halos DMR
Pmr-30 is amazing. 30 round mag, reliable with federal punch ammo, weighs nothing, great sights, no recoil. I carry this in the field when I'm hunting, don't even know it's there
>>64864390Yes
>>64864404How do you respect a company you have zero actual experience with? Your opinion is trash, homie
>>64868004It is in fact quite small
>>64868004it is smaller than a folded FAL paratrooper
>>64860700thisfuck brandonhe shat on some guy from here's ak15 or ar47 thing and said it couldnt be done then went completely silent when the guy made a video shooting it
>>64860700fpbp, but also if we could hang this guy:>>64868006that would be GREAT
>>64860622It's the fucking plastic furniture that gets me every time.Why do they make them so shitty bros?Like noticably more shitty than most of their competitors.There's nothing wrong with polymer frames, but why make them out used condoms and syringes and the tears of aborted chinese female fetuses?
>>64868069Oh you’re retarded, thats sad.
>>64860700>Keltec makes gun with 1-3 unique or less common traits >Haha le cocaine
>>64864377Dumbass with an airsoft optic probably treated his gun as cheap airsoft shit too.
>>64860700I am pretty out of the loop on things, but man, the fuck did he do or say? No offense to you op, just curious.
>>64873335He's a grifter, he knows his time is running out in terms of being relevant, that's why he's running for political office>daddy's money buys gun shop>"aK gUy">whiteclaws>AK-50 (which he didn't build btw)>mexicanAnd a lot of other cringe shit
>>64863816Biggest benefit to 22 mag over 22lr that everyone overlooks is jacketed bullets. It's a significant step up in terminal performance. Also 22 mag typically has better qc overall so you're less likely to get duds.
>>64873335Watch literally one of his videos, he's the most obvious narcissist in the community of all these faggots only short of maybe Garand Thumb.He's some fuckhead with trust fund money or some shit who bought his way into a bunch of guns, and has a camera guy follow him around so he can make steroid poses and play army toys dress up. Now he's running for congress and shit against Eli Crane one of the coolest and most pro-gun reps in the country.Him and his ilk and the people like him, all these gun influencer FAGGOTS are NUKING this hobby and making cool shit more expensive, ranges more crowded with dipshits and spics running around, and making everything guns totally fucking gay.I miss the days when it was like boomers and 20-somethings with aspergers collecting milsurp and dreaming of owning preban assault rifles both on this board and at any gun range you find yourself at. "Gun Meme Review" Go fuck yourself, fucking engagement farming dork.
>>64860622Keltec fucking sucks
>>64860622>and lets make a 5.7 pistol with clips just to annoy Califonia sounds based to me
>>64873335Herrera is friends with Dan Crenshaw, he really wants to be in the club with him. Herrera is also polling relatively poorly, which shows how bad of a candidate he is against a goon like Tony Gonzalez.
>>64873631It is a silly thingBut the concealed carry version is pretty based
>>64873359>>64873454>>64873693Damn, that sucks, but it does show people that are trying to recapture that 15 minutes of fame that is long since gone, and everyone has moved on, but oh well, thanks for keeping me up in the loop, guys. I really appreciate it, and I hope y'all have a good and blessed day or night. Dios bendiga
>>64860622Whats coming out? P50 Gen 2? Their take on a Bizon but with rear charging? What the hell does the A stand for?
>>64863963I'd love one as a farm gun if I could find it for a decent price; MSRP is a bit rich for me considering that I'm not and that I already have an AR.
>they finally hate gun content creatorsyou guys are several years too late for it to be relevant as with most things, but i'm glad you finally caught up at least.
>>64860622Brandon is such a goddamn poseur compared to George Kellgren.Kellgren has spend over half a century designing new and interesting firearms, while never seeking the limelight.Sure, his guns are often quirky, but this is literally Kellgren's side gig. It's a hobby.Meanwhile Brandon thinks it's a whole ass enterprise to scale up the AK to fire fifty cal, because le epic challenge, something Kellgren could probably do in a few months... While using a slide rule.Because George has forgotten more about firearms than Brandon has ever learned.
My RDB is unironically my favorite rifle
>>64876933why
>>64860700>>64860800>>64871088Triple checked, dubs don't lie
>>64860930you have to be 18 and older to post on this website little one
>>64879455why?
>>64860622>lets make a Mp7 look alike in .22 magnum
>>64880499please, 9mm, 32, 380, .25, just a proper pistol cartridge that's reliable, I'm begging you
>>64864345oh nyo a replacable, non-critical part breaks when you smash it against a rock!
>>64880486I'm wronghanded, so the downward ejection is nice instead of right in front of my face. I like the compact bullpup design, and I like that it's affordable (like 1/3 the price of a tavor). Recoil is very light, and I've never had any malfunctions in the last 1,500ish rounds (had some FTEs out of the box as the gas was set for 5.56, not .223. Once adjusted, it's been flawless).
>>64880592>the gas was set for 5.56, not .223.i thought they were the same thing... >set the gas righthear that a lot about Keltecs, seems like a very common problem that they need their gas systems adjusted out of the boxFor the price, what are the other options?Hellion is over double, Aug is double, DDM4 is at least 50% more and not bullpup.for under 1k, under 800 for the cheaper one, how can you do better?
>>648806235.56 is like 60,000psi whereas .223 rounds have 55,000psi. That extra 5,000 pounds per square inch of pressure can make a difference on a rifle, determining whether it can cycle properly, or if the chamber can handle that extra pressure (in the case of some .223 rifles being loaded with 5.56).That said, setting the gas on the RDB is super simple- it's just a knob on the front of the rifle. I gave it 2 clicks of adjustment and it's been perfect for me.
>>64860622What the fuck is top left?!
>>64880683PLR-22. A .22LR version of the pistol version of the SU-16.
My only gun in .308 is an ishapore 2a1. Should I buy an RFB?
>>64873454>I miss the days when it was like boomers and 20-somethings with aspergers collecting milsurp and dreaming of owning preban assault rifles both on this board and at any gun range you find yourself at.>20-somethings with aspergersSure.>boomers Yeah...let's not pretend like they weren't (aren't) a problem in their own right. I'd much rather take the clueless zoomer who got into the hobby because of social media over ranges being dominated by faggot boomers giving you the side-eye because you're not a fellow geriatric, or you're shooting a "notsee/commie" gun, or you're shooting a little bit faster than the "one shot per 3 seconds" rule, or whatever the fuck. The sooner the boomerocracy disappears, the better. At least the zoomers mind their own fucking business.
>>64880884Yeah.
Kel-Tec should have produced picrel.(they do have a .410 KSG, but this looks nicer)
>>64860622>>make one, but have it be 410 caliber, and give it a double tube magazinewhat's so bad about .410? getting hit center of mass with 5 pellets of 00 buck at full velocity is nothing to laugh at
>>64885425Ammo cost for one thing. Turks have made it cheaper, but the cheap 410 ammo I have seen was really sketchy. I don't think it would work in a KT product.