Happy 1911 day edition!https://patents.google.com/patent/US984519A/en> FIREARM. 7 APPLICATION FILED FEB. 17, 1910. 984,519. Patented Feb. 14, 1911.Post 1911sGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>64854769
Im gonna be cutting up my tisas w hand files to fit a wilson grip safety tomorrow, pray for me boys.
>>64865558Do you have the Wilson guide? I’ve done it on this frame Really be sure you like your thumb safety, it changes where the grip safety sits. I swapped thumb and grip safeties and it turned my perfect fit into pinch city
>>64865568Shidd I didn't think about that. I only have the factory GI safety and was planning to replace it with an ambi safetey later on when I have more money to spend. Am I fugged if I do it with what I have? I figured I could just blend an aftermarket safety in to my grip safety later. And yeah i got the wilson guide.
>>64865607Mine is only a little bit annoying since I swapped grip safeties, not all Wilson’s are apparently the same. I originally had a conceal carry grip safety on it but it interfered with the EGW/Atlas hammer. If you keep the same grip safety it won’t be that bad, but yeah the thumb safety shaft changes where the grip safety sits
>>64865633Also >changed hammer and sear >thumb safety no longer passed safety checks
>>64865633Ah ok. No plans to change anything on this gun except the safeties, springs and trigger. This was just going to be my first venture into monkeying on a 1911 so I'm not very ambitious right now. I might mess with frame checkering at some point but I'll prolly save that for a future stainless gun so I don't have to stress about refinishing a frame.
Well I just found out why they didn't announce the pricing at shot show for that handheld automatic loader: https://www.kineticblossom.com/products/magpie?variant=52290536276181It's $300 lmao.
Pure coincidence I shot 1911s today; I was so tired after work that I couldn't even tell you the date.
>>64865714$150 would be too much...It is a cool idea though.
>>64865749SexyIs that a repro or an original?
>>64865648Yeah what causes this? Everything looks right but sometimes the safety doesn’t work on mine after I changed out some internals.
>>64865714Yeah that shits dying at 300 bucks.
>>64865775>>64865791Yeah I'd probably pay max $100 for it but $60-80 would be more reasonable for most people. It would be like 2-3x the price of a maglula which is fairly quick as it is, so you get diminishing speed returns for way more money. Plus these are preorders and they state the price might increase lmao.I kinda suspect they will see that the interest they saw at shot show is going to be non-existent with that price tag, and lower the price on launch.
Happy 1911 day! I just picked this DW Specialist up today. I think I’m going to have it milled for a Chambers Custom optic plate.
>>64865543I need /k/expertise please. Leon's Blacktail (picrel) in RE4 Remake is precisely :>a Springfield XD like imfdb says>a HS Produkt HS-2000>a HS Produkt HS-9I know Springfield XD is HS Produkt rebadged, I'm trying to buy the most clone correct model I can find.
>>64865789If you take off the grip safety but install a everything else you can watch the thumb safety shelves interact with the hammer and sear surfaces
>>64865873I’d throw in the charyrn precision plate (Mercier pistol works) or NHC IOS cut (via dual hammer). In there.I want a 1911 done up by a Bob Marvel Disciple like Mercier.
Changed the grips today to walnut
>>64865898None of those are actually "clone correct", because they all lack the finger grooves (which look to be modeled on a Gen 3 Glock). Also, the trigger guard is straighter on the XD/HS, not bowed out like in the RE4 gun.
>>64865928Looksmaxxing, will metal-framemog any Glock sucker at the range and cortisol spike them into shooting low left
>>64865943Granted, of course I can also see this. But grip and trigger guard aside, which model is the good one ?
>>64865714I don't see that thing working with tightly packed boxes like Magtech, PMC, Sellier & Bellot and Fiocchi, there's no room for the lips to go around each row. Which means you'd have to dump the box out and load that thing by hand. Which you would also have to do with any bulk pack anyway. So if you're loading it by hand, what's the point? Saving downstrokes? I'm an expert at strokes.And it couldn't work with more than one case head diameter, so you have to buy another "feeder rail" for .40 and another for .45, if it can even fit those diameters, or accommodate larger mag body sizes. The white thing looks like it can't get much wider without being too thin so how are you going to have enough material to grab .45?It's a cool idea but yeah that thing is stillborn at $300. I wouldn't buy a single-caliber-loader for $100. Damn man and I thought MagLULAs were expensive at $40, and those DO fit multiple calibers and DO fit a wide range of mag bodies.
>>64865956Oh, no, none of them are good.
>>64865898>>64865956Closest would be a mid-first-generation HS2000 or early XD, after they added the grip texture panel to the side and the front serrations I should think. But you're going for an autistic vidya clone, it won't be good enough for you
>>64865956The XD is essentially identical to the HS 2000, other than cosmetic markings. I guess the RE gun doesn't have many cosmetic markings, so the HS is "more correct", but again, none of them are actual clones.None of them are good guns, either, as this guy said. >>64865969
I really hate how this thing is Turkish
>>64865974You’ve overlooked the second pic slot that comes on the newer current model, that is there on the vidya gun.
We do a little blastin.
>>64865782Repro.
>>64866018Yeah I didWell I guess you'd have to weigh that against the excessive Springfield engravings
>>64865924After looking around some more I may just get the RMR plate and have Dual Hammer do the machining. It looks like most of the mounting solutions for the 509t or EPS would result in me losing the rear sight. With an RCR I can still have irons.
>>64865969Nah they’re pretty good.
>>64866040Nighthawk IOS cut BUIS is too low for the RCR fyi. I wouldn’t recommend Trijicon’s RMR plate, Dawson’s DPO cut has much more plate designs available since it’s the Staccato optic system.
>>64866079Is the problem with the Trijicon plate something about the plate specifically or is it something about the cut itself? ZR Tactical makes a trijicon pattern plate that I’d probably use.
>>64866091It’s a really old design, it uses 4 screws into the slide but has no recoil posts and sits tall. The DPO cut has only 2 or 3 screws depending on optic but has recoil posts and mating surfaces.
>>64866108
Is there any reason to buy a five seven besides the cool factor and capacity?
>>64866112DPO cut on top, NHC IOS on bottom.Pretty sure DPO plates peg into the two holes and then has a centering surface that rides in the slot. Then has that rear ledge. NHC IOS plate dovetails onto the dovetail, the plate is advertised to never lose zero so you can zero an optic to a plate and swap optics without removing the optic from the plate while retaining zero between plates. It’s held by a pin at the front of the dovetail that’s locked in place with a screw on the plate. Not sure how the Springfield AOS plate works but it’s similar to DPO in that it’s an advancement on the trijicon style
>>64866113Fuck no, the selection of 5.7 handguns is abysmal. The FN is shit, the PSA Rock is okay, the Ruger is fine, the M&P57 is alright, the PR57 is neat, the Tisas 5.7 has the best trigger of any of them which should really convey how bleak the situation is. Buy one if you want one, nothing wrong with fun, but fuck no there is no good reason to run it.
>>64866108>>64866112I just looked up some pictures of the cuts and I see what you’re talking about. It looks like I could even get a plate for a 509t and still have irons.
>>64865898Resident Evil guns take liberties with small details that simply don't exist IRL. You'd need to add them on yourself somehow or just take the original model.>t. trying to get a SG09R
>>64866137Yeah, the DPO cut and Trijicon RMR plate cuts cost about the same but the DPO cut you have a wider range of plates and also aftermarket plates to choose from (not from Dawson) like forward controls, ch precision, eleven 71, and few other. Dawson does aluminum, while some others do steel or titanium, aluminum is a little bit better since it doesn’t add mass to your slide as much.Pic related is eleven 71 titanium 509T with a Glock rear sight
I have a DPO plate on my carry gun with the RCR
>>64866135What about ballistics from the shorter barrels?
>>64866156I really like that. >>64866165It’s looking like the DPO cut is my best option.
>>64866180Can you form a complete question?
>>64866182The eleven 71 is a bit annoying and more expensive since you have to buy the Glock sights separately and then hand fit them to the dovetail cut, they’re using a Heinie straight 8 suppressor height sight in the picture which is like 80 bucks
>>64866184Apologies, lack of sleep is catching up. Besides the shit designs, are the ballistics of 5.7 any better than 9mm to warrant considering it? I know the round typically does better with longer barrels. Just curious about shorter pistol barrel.
>>64866197That’s kind of lame. It looks like DSC Gunworks is who I may do it through. They include the plate, front sight, and cerakote touch up for around $450. The few others I’ve looked at have the option of either refinishing the whole slide or leaving the cut raw. I’d rather not have the duty finish stripped off of the rest of the slide and replaced with cerakote.
>>64866221I used DSC to do my cuts. The front sight might not be the right height since you really don’t know until your go and zero the gun with the rear sight on the plate.
>>64866219Oh fuck no, not at all, absolutely not. I'm lazy so I'll just quote the ammo salesman:>5.7 Gold Dot or V-Max out of a pistol, you can get performance similar to a non-expanding 9mm or .380 ACP. >.22 Magnum can poke a .22 caliber hole with good penetration. 5.7 will do the same thing, but maybe with a temp cavity that looks good on camera.5.7 is genuinely pretty bad across the board. I won't fault people on their hobbies and interests, I own a PR57, but there's nothing redeeming about 5.7. I'd trust my life to a Bodyguard2.0 over any 5.7 firearm.
I saw this feature on a 2011 in a Humble Marksman video but I can't find it. It was a cut in the breech face like this, designed to redirect gas away from an optic's lens. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
>LGS finally had my gun ready for pick up>They close in 90 minFuck it, guess I'm going tomorrow
>>64866256Thanks kindly. I had a sneaking suspicion this was the case. The pistols seem to be largely an afterthought as compared to the pdw itself. I’d trust a m&p 2.0 over their 5.7 any day. Thing is like a step down quality wise and that’s saying something. 5.7 in a pdw over 9mm? Maybe. At the same time, just grab an ar.
>>64866298I feel as if this would do the opposite. I don’t hate the feature, just question the placement.
>>64866307Drive fast the police will understand.
>>64866307I don't shop at gun stores anymore. I just order online and use a private FFL instead. It's been a better gun buying experience.
>>64866307iktfI'm waiting until Thursday to pick up my gun instead of this weekend so I have some extra money to throw at ammo
>>64866390It’s true>t. Bolice
>Extra mags came in a day earlyNice, now I can do comfy Saturday morning shoots at the range. Its even going to be above freezing so my hands won't dry out from the lack of humidity.
>>64865543Are 9mm 1911s a meme? One of my family members is thinking about buying one of the Ruger 9mm 1911s just for fun, not practical use.I told him to just pay more to buy a decent .45 1911, but he doesn't seem to want to change his mind. Not my money, at least
>>64866459Why are you trying to talk him into getting something he doesn’t want? My 9mm 1911s are the most pleasant shooting guns I own.
>>64866473I don't really know frankly. Maybe I am too judgemental
>>64866486There are no benefits to 45. The 9mm guns are more pleasant to shoot and ammo is significantly cheaper.
>>648664599mm 1911s are very smooth shooting and easier on older people since the recoil spring is lighter so it’s easier to rack. My dad can barely rack my .45 1911s
>>648664599mm 1911s are probably the epitome of relaxed 9mm plinking. They have basically no recoil.
>>64866499>>64866501Seems alright then, I'll get off his back
>>64866499Bigger bullet = more better
>>64866504It’s like shooting a 22 magnum
Getting a 92fs inox ghost tomorrow night AND I CAN’T FUCKING WAIT BROS HOLY FUCK I NEED A TIME MACHINE TO SPEED THIS UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>64866298
>>64866234I’m not as worried about the elevation being dead center, I just like to have backups for peace of mind. Did you use the veteran/first responder discount through DSC?
>>64866578No
>>64865543Did/does Beretta make a centurion brigadier???
>>64866658No
>>64866668why?
>>64866658Wilson Combat does
Why do you guys hate Hydra-Shok deep? Is it just the price?
>>64866691It's like slightly worse than HST, except more expensive.
>>64866691I just bulk buy regular HST because its cheaper to train and cycle through carries with. Accuracy over trivial meme shit compared with better stopping power over FMJ is my mantra.
>>64866681It’s not a brigadier
>>64866298Burt are you mandela effecting me? I know what you're talking about and I remember seeing it but I can't find it and it was NOT a humble marksman video that I saw this mentioned in.
>>64866731>>64866668Do brigadier's look cool with comps on them?
>>64866792
>>64866792I like mine.
What's the word on these?
>>64866858What do you mean? It's a USP, except the safety is retarded.
>>64866858It's a cool collector piece but that reversed safety would fuck me up.
>>64866858>>64866861>>64866865The german army pistols had a heavier treatment on their slides but HK fails to mention that in the description of these commercial P8A1's so therefore they are not real P8A1's and simply USP's with a retarded safety. They are not even worthy of collector piece status.
>>64866858Retarded guns
>>64866858Are P8s and USP9 mags interchangeable? Knowing H&K I must ask this.
>>64866794>>64866816What 92FS comps do you recommend that use a threaded barrel
>>64866945Jarvis (set screw, requires a flat on the threads machined unless you buy a barrel from them with it pre installed)PMM (shims like a rifle comp)
Colt Detective or S&W 36 as a first revolver?
>>64866932Google says they are.
>>64866976S&W Model 10 Heavy Barrel if it's for carry Just get a big fuck off gun if it's just a range toy
>>64866976I like Colt
>>64866945>>64866972Jarvis. PMM is retard mode. It's hard to install and you have to use loctite. Which means to get the barrel out of the slide you need to then remove the comp.
>>64866976I've got and carry a Colt Detective Special every day just about in a leather holster. It's a super cool gun and having a full 6 cylinder is great. I don't really get the appeal of the 5 shot but I've never really truly compared the two for carry, but I will say that I barely notice my Colt Detective at all. I'm a flight student and wear just a Tshirt while flying and it's never been a problem with printing and my instructor doesn't even know I carry every time we fly lol. The S&W is cool but the Colt Detective is just cooler imo
HK's website is so fucking bad holy fuck
Can you send a fax to H&K and get an answer?
>>64867128How does a fax work anyway? Can a boomer explain this ancient tech to me.
>>64866774I was mistaken, HM said it wasn't him. But it's driving me nuts trying to find it! I've scrubbed through like 50 videos now from all kinds of guntube channels going back a year or more and I cannot find the damn thing. I'd swear it was about 2 months ago... but then I'd have sworn it was HM tooI think it was some kind of tertiary brand like Bul or Alpha Foxtrot or Jacob Gray. God maybe it wasn't even a 2011? I even looked at videos for that weird $6,000 striker 2011 thing from Ziggler or whatever but it's not that either>>64866858>>64866878The slide coating is supposedly more corrosion resistant but it picks up marks like a sonufabitch. If you so much as touch it with something hard the finish gets a mark on it. This is what my first one looked like brand new right out of the box, just from factory handlingApart from that like anon said it's just a USP with an upside down safety, some cool as hell rare roll marks, and extremely rad translucent white magazines>>64866932Yes
>>64866858Worse than a USP yet more expensive. Exists solely for hkboomer collectors.>>64867144google it nigger
>>64866858>>64867153Also the glow-in-the-dark sight sticker flew into my face and I glued it back on
>>64867153I thought I saw it in a shot show related video or short, and I flicked through the shot show recaps and shorts I watched and did not see it. Trust me, you've piqued my interest in where I saw this thing too, you actually did when you mentioned it in a HG thread a week or two ago but I was too busy to look at like 25 videos.
>>64867144It's just a printer/scanner attached to a modem. You dial the number from your fax machine, the fax machine on the other end picks up and syncs, then your machine scans and sends the image to be printed on their end>>64867163I have a memory of the guy mentioning that he didn't know how well it actually worked because the optic he had on the gun was one of those forward-lens things like an SROThis is doing my head in.
>>64867161Jesus...what the fuck.
>>64866691It's shit.
>>64866992>Heavy BarrelThat’s the worst Model 10 option available.
I’m pretty new at this. Should I just get a Glock 19 Gen 6 or go for the equivalent Ruger RXM/Springfield Echelon/Walther PDP/M&P/etc
>>64867128I'm going to fax them a photocopy of my bussy hole.>>64867161Skill issue.
>>64867208Why do you want a gun
>>64867208>gen 6Are these in stock? Local departments around where I live are having trouble getting them apparently and they get snapped up instantly by other glockfags who get there first
>>64867208Yeah, unless your heart is calling out to something else in particular, then a Glock 19 is a great starting point to get into shooting. It's just kind of the default handgun you start with in the game.
>>64867208Have you ever shot any guns before? Do you want a gun for carry, home defense, or just to take to the range? What's your budget?
>>64867208Get a Bersa 380 and larp as a poor's man James Bond.
>>64867177>It's just a printer/scanner attached to a modem.bro out here telling secrets
>>64867218I found one locally for $700 but I'm not paying that shit. They're going as low as $620 online, with $635 at Academy the lowest I could get locally but they'd have to ship it and I'd get it next week. Not a deal breaker, just saying.
>>64867250Wait till I tell you how a STU-5 works
in for 1911. I adjusted the middle leaf of my sear spring to where I have no problems with hammer follow, nor can I release the hammer before the slide is in battery, but I lost all of my pretravel. Unsure what to do. I think I'm gonna junk this slide and get a remsport stainless slide, kart barrel, stainless egw ejector and harrison firing pin stop
Show her you care. Buy yourself a 1911.
>>64867208Yes, any from the list will be good. Particularly RXM is a hit lately, because it's glock gen 3 with fcu, and PSA just announced they will be making frames compatible with it.
>>64867271Why do you need any pretravel?
>>64867269I hate this. Thanks
>>64867298Honestly I don't think I really need to, it's actually pretty nice, besides the fact that my trigger shoe has unnecessary forward movement that I can't dial out. Some bullseye guys probably tuned their guns for this exact feel in the 60s.What's happening is the disconnector has enough energy to reset the trigger when I let off it, but not enough energy to send the trigger forward to its previous resting position. Since the trigger is not going forward all the way it's not sliding out from under the grip safety finger and it's basically pinning the grip safety. Not really unsafe or a problem if you consider the grip safety useless.
>>64867177>I have a memory of the guy mentioning that he didn't know how well it actually worked because the optic he had on the gun was one of those forward-lens things like an SRO>This is doing my head in.Well to reference your previous post, the top serrations on the slide remind me of AF but it's not present in any AF 1911 that I've seen, including the romulus. I haven't seen a Jacob Grey or Bul with serrations that fine.
>>64867422That was a drawing on a random 1911 slide I did as an example, that's not the actual cut
Is there a market for an LED front sight or is it a retarded idea in the era red dot sights? My basic concept is a battery powered front sight that glows 24/7 with a battery embedded in the slide. I figure that since red dot sights require pretty good presentation to even see the dot, why keep the whole optic assembly vs. getting people to do target-focused shooting off the front sight like we used to with a constantly glowing front sight?
>>64867457Front sight focus is dumb Look at your target dumbass, not your gun
>>64867457You could probably install a small led into a fiber optic sight, the biggest issue is to find a place to hide battery and led driver.>is it a retarded ideaOf course, no one is doing this. But it's not impossible.
>>64867506Nah he’s on to something. What about turning the front sight into a laser?
The only reason people dont use lasers as their primary sighting system is because FDA regs make anything that's unrestricted extremely faggy. If you could put a 50mw laser on your pistol for $100 with a competent grip switch and a common battery nobody would even fuck around with red dots except for redundancy. If you've ever used a really fucking powerful laser you'd know you can most definitely see it in the middle of the day in arizona, it's ideal.
>>64867457This was solved 10 years ago, without batteries, machining or extra weight
>>64866113Eh it doesn't hurt to have a caliber that can defeat a good chunk of body armor types or if you want to shoot something different than 9mm
>>64867534I have long since thought this, but alas, the FDA hates fun. I just want Brigador larp.
>>64867543I actually really like these but they stuff the tech into weird looking iron sights that I just think are too ugly for my guns.
>>64867425oopsI thought you had a low quality picture of it and just highlighted the edge of the cut.
>>64867579I wish I had a pic, then I'd have a clue where to start looking :(>>64867556Ya they're ugly, but if those are the features you want that's the price ya payThey used to be EVEN BIGGER
>>64867543I've never used a tritium night sight that was as good as a red dot sight. I've practiced with a handheld light held near the grip, handheld light held by my ear, and a WML, and I would put tritium sights below fiber optic front sights for ease of use. In the hands of someone who is experienced with target-focused shooting, the capability of red dot sights comes from the brightness that catches the eye in any lighting condition, so I want a battery powered illuminated front sight that gives me that benefit without making the gun ugly as hell or fucking with holster compatiblity.
>>64867601Fresh tritium is pretty freaking bright dudeA few weeks ago I had my range bag packed and set aside, and when I woke up to whiz in the middle of the night I saw this green glow on my wall. I'm like wtf how. It was escaping my zipped up range bag and emitting enough on the wall that I could see my room like barely there nightlightAnyway I get what you're saying, but new tritium is plenty eye catching at night and the fiber optics, if they're big enough (not that the TFX necessarily is), are as bright as a tuned red dot in sunlightI'm just saying it's an existing, accessible solution
For my first handgun, should I go striker-fired or hammer-fired? I'm just looking at full-size pistols if that makes a difference.
>>64867616I got tritium sights for the first time last week, I actually busted the front sight vial while installing it and I have been sick ever sinceAnyway trits are not that bright, I left the gun with the two remaining tritium dots facing me in the dark and they're extremely underwhelming. Also the vials were literally installed by trijjicon two weeks before that, because I was on a preorder.
>>64867616I forgot that it has been almost seven years since the last time I put new tritium night sights on one of my handguns, and it came with tritium rears too, so I never practiced with the full "dot" experience that I get with a fiber optic front/blacked out rear sights.>>64867635What advice could we give you without any idea about the guns you're interested in?
>>64867635Why do you want a gun
>>64867601That sight is not just tritium, it's fiber optic. So it's actually bright during daylight and dim glow in the dark.
>>64867637Well then I have no idea>>64867635I think that's less important than other factors like role, price, ergonomics and stuffTo boil it down simply a striker gives you the same trigger pull every time usually with a worse trigger, but most hammer fireds are DA/SA so you have two trigger pulls to learn and train with usually with a better single action triggertl;dr I think you should make a few other decisions before that one
>>64867269That photo is stunning and brave. I support you!
>>64867664cringe
>>64867656phew those early novak sights are sick. Love the magwell grips too. Nice piece. The idiot scratches give it character
>>64867648For striker-fired guns, I've been looking at the Walther PDP, Ruger RXM, and the CZ P10. The hammer-fired guns I've been looking at are some Beretta 92 variants, the CZ 75B, and the Springfield SA-35.>>64867656Because I want to get one before my state gets an AWB and magazine capacity limits. Also because I've been interested in guns for a long time; I just couldn't buy a handgun until fairly recently (I'm 21).
>>64867750If I had to choose, I would take the RXM or the CZ-75 PCR. The RXM is a best-gen Glock but better in every way, and the CZ-75 has much less chunky offerings than the Beretta 92 does.
>>64867750Don't get a P10, it's getting discontinued and replaced with a revised version. If you want a striker, get a Glock/PDP/M&P. If you get a hammer-fired gun, don't get a fucking nu-Hi Power. Get a P226/92.
This week has been shit but at least I'll get to shoot my new P226 MK25 and Glock 19 Gen 4 tomorrow>>64867750Which state if I may ask?My state is probably going to be AWB/Mag Cap proof for a long time so at least there's that but that just means they'll throw other kinds of bullshit my way
>>64867750Get a Glock based gun using Glock mags. In the future you can get one of the double stack 1911s or staccatos that use Glock mags. Get many Glock mags
>>64867780Virginia. Dems here are ramming a bunch of gun control bills through the legislature.
>>64867867Yeah you have my sincere condolencesI have my issues with Florida but at least we don't have filthy commies making up bullshit like that.Oh but don't worry Republicans here will implement some other kind of bullshit
>>64867767Is any info on the P10 revision out there? Last thing I heard about it was that the German military adopted it.
Just picked up my first handgun. R8 my setup.
>>64867878There's grainy pictures of it from a previous year's Shot Show out there, but that's pretty much it.
>>64867880Um, where's the optic cut?
Contributing
>>64867878P-10 is not going away now that the Germs adopted it. The new gun will come out this year (or next if it keeps getting delayed), but P10 will stay in the catalog
>>64867880yeah
>>64867880
>>64867880a good troll would be to have really weirdly spaced finger grooveslike two at the bottom, next to each other
>>64867803Basing your handgun purchases around the cheapest available mags is only limiting your selection just to pinch a few pennies.
>>64867921You fundamentally misunderstand the premise. You get a bunch (like hundreds) of Glock mags because they work in a variety of guns, and will be grandfathered in if capacity bans happen further down the line. This is what happened during the AWB.
>>64867911it's about maximizing what your magazines can do, not because they're cheap.
>>64867880LMAO is this OC? Actually lol'd.
>>64867931Yeah, maximizing the ability for mags to not drop free lolMaximizing circumference by wrapping them in 1/8" of pointless plastic lmaoMaximizing difficulty of removing baseplates
The more I fingerfuck my P226 MK25, the more I think that maybe it really should have won in 1985It just feels so nice on the hands and the build quality really shows.I can imagine that the West German ones would have been even betterAnd I am a diehard 92fag
>>64867543>>64867867Glock mags (mecgar metal ones seem better though), Beretta mags, 2011 mags, AR15 mags would have gotten me most of the way there. Of those, multiple AR15 mags are timestamped same with Glock.
>>64867957kill this guy
>>64867960The numbers on OEM Glock mags aren't timestamps, they indicate place of manufacture. PMags, on the other hand...
Sig, Sigg, and Siggy
>>64867880Hell yeah.
What holster does /hg/ reccomend for my S&W model 39-2? I have 0 intention of carrying it anywhere other than the woods or a flat range, so I don't need to worry about concealment
Posting hand gun in hand gun general
>>64868102https://epsaddlery.com/product/1930-austin-holster/Here you go brotha
Where in the hell do I get stripped A4 slides at? I want to out one on my Vertec frame
>>64867534All fun and games until you accidentally reflect that high power laser back into your eyes.
Hey yallIt’s been a minute since I’ve posted here, do yall think +p would make an frt glock run better? If so whats the best budget +p fmj I can feed it?
>>64867534I’ve messed with pistol lasers in the past, anything attached to the rail of a polymer frame gun wont hold zeroHoly shit this new captcha system is abysmal dogshit
>>64867872I know it’s a long shot but it sounds like Fishback wants to legalize FRTs and bumpstocks here (I guess call them out specifically by name as okay). And he says he wants to turn it back to citrus/ranching country which is based
>>64867927I would rather buy 10-round mags for better guns and see about modifying them than limit myself to Glock mag-compatible firearms for unrestricted capacity.
>>64868511Then he should just buy 2011 mags and skip every other gun
>>64868102Bianchi M12
>>64868400>do yall think +p would make an frt glock run better?no, what ammo type and brand are you using ?
>>64866816what's a light and comp combo that sits flush on a 92 series?
>>64868692Centurion with single port and X300
>>64867867If you think that's bad, wait till Democrats win in 2028. I'm gonna laugh so hard at you loser incel retards when they take your precious guns. Remember: you won't do shit with them!>>64865898K and expertise don't make sense when combined
>>64867969stay based, friendo
>>64868692Well, this TLR-1 HL-X is flush with the barrel. I've got an HP-X as well, it's a little bit longer but not enough to be flush with a comp. I only have the one comped 92 and like 6 others without threaded barrels. I haven't really made an effort to find a light that is flush with my Jarvis comp but maybe I should start looking.
>>64868724>>64868735yes, for a full size slide you'd need something longer than an x300. Does it exist though?
>>64868778Ported barrel
>>64867590Fellow P226 + TLR1 bro
>>64868778I found this pic of a TLR-9. Getting closer. Also this port looks like shit.
>>64868843Jarvis .575-40 threaded barrel and comp combo is 1/4 in shorter than the 1/2-28 barrel and comp if that helps.
>>64868621I usually run whatever brass or aluminum case fmj is cheapest for training ammo in my carry glockUsed some venom fmj in the frt yesterday because it’s what I have on hand rnIn the frt it had issues with low slide velocity not ejecting spent casings
>>64868823>>64867590Does your P226 slide rattle around a little when you move or gently shake it?Unrelated my USA-made 92FS slide shows every single milling mark, did we just forget how to make things.
Anyone ever use Troy ammo? I got some 9mm for range blasting, new manufacture but I've never heard of it.
>>64868887Mine makes one rattle just ever so slightly. Like one small sound.My Hi Power on the other hand is rattley as fuck
>>64868912Why are you posting a ten year old map?
>>64868912got the map for 2026
>>64868423Yes please get Fishback in at any cost.
>>64868896I got some light strikes last time I shot Troy ammo. Just hard primers that went off second time around.
Arex zero compacts are 400 on Atlantic. Can any arex bros redpill me on them? Are they nice or just meh?
>>64868511There’s no better gun than a modern Glock, though?
>>64868887If I shake them hard they can. But that's not a fair test of "fit" because unlike most Browning type guns the way a P226 locks up is to ramp the barrel up and press it into the slide, and that compression takes most/any slack out of the slide rails. So they're technically looser than they sound, except when locked up they're tighter than most dooty gunsIf that makes sense?>>64869037They're fat as hell but otherwise quite good. If you have smol hands it'll be tough to love
>>64867673Unfortunately the sights are off, put 3 rounds into the same hole. Just 2 inches to the right and 1 inch up.
>>64865552Good taste in beer.
>>64868896I had some odd metal shavings coming off the casings in the few boxes I had, as well as an unusually big fireball.
Halp! 4 inch or 6 inch 686 +? Also, them Culina grips are based af
>>64869153Go for the 4 inch4 inch is the norm
My first handgun ever, what do you guys think. is XD-9 good?
>>64869157Nice
>>64869174>XD Underage
>>64869103Based CZ enjoyer
>>64865543What gun would you use as a cop if you could carry anything? I got issued a Glock that's giving me a lot of concerning issues. Leaning towards the M&P metal, it has all the same controls so it won't confuse me, but higher quality and more reliable. I wanted the HK P30 but duty holster options are more limited and they don't come optics cut, but still doable.
>>64869283My department has the Walther PDP as our duty gun. No complaints here.
>>64869283To add, I've shot both and shoot HKs better than any other handgun, so accuracy and comfort goes to HK. I can't pull the trigger on this decision just yet because I'll shoot more accurately with the HK but it costs more and the holster options negate any optics use, the don't make an ALS holster for optics cut P30s.The M&P is acceptable, shoots like a Glock but feels better and doesn't have the mag issue I'm having where fully loaded mags are not seating and dropping out. It's also very difficult to rack a round with fully loaded mags, and they won't let me download them by 1 so I really just can't stick with this gun. I've been issued 4 other Glocks that were not this bad, it's not a weakness issue I just ended up with a cursed one. Might as well upgrade and not end up like those cops who have their gun jam in bodycam vids. For me if I have to reload I'm at serious risk of a mag dropping out due to how fucking hard it has to be slammed in there.
>>64869287Sheeit, I forgot about these. Gonna look into them.
>>64869283I'd go with a Glock.
>>64869174It's fineI think they're neat
>>64869174>cuck mags>>64869283>M&P>more reliable
>>64869283Anything at all? Glock 41.
>>64869332>impede slide with thumb>not user errorretard lmfao
>>64869347That's my point, dipshit. If he's getting filtered by Glocks then M&P's will also be a source of "concerning issues" for him
Cops should be required to use revolvers unless they undergo IQ testing and score above 105.
>>64869361>more reliable>pastebitch posting L after Llol stfu dumbass, you're not fooling anyone
>>64869361>>64869283I'll be the first to bite, >Glock that's giving me a lot of concerning issueswhat are the issues?
>>64869283Colt Official Police.
>>64869332The fact that most cops don't have drawing, establishing an effective grip, and firing a shot committed to muscle memory is insane.
>>6486941699.9% of their job is telling fat black women to settle down and stop raising hell at Popeye's. They're not SWAT members.
Is USPSA the end-all-be-all for shooting skill as people like Matt Pranka claim? Or can you become competent with a handgun without competing?
>>64869437Sure, you can become competent without competing. Why wouldn’t you compete, though? Why wouldn’t you want to know how you might perform in an environment with pressure, with people looking at you, with timers and scoring?
>>64869378Must be suffering from limp wrists if he thinks an aluminium frame is a solution to anything
Just ordered a Tisas 1911 off PSA for $395 after taxes and shipping. I heard SDS and Tisas had a falling out and they may not be available so cheap soon.
>>64869441Is USPSA better than IDPA for practical skills? I've been thinking about learning it.
>>64869437You can be competent without competing but the idea of competition is to put your skills to the test in more advanced shooting involving movement and various distances. Coming up with stage plans, engagement strategy, and executing them. USPSA isn’t the end all be all, it’s just what’s there and accessible. If you had access to a private range with action bays you could do this.
>>64869456You also see how good other people are and that should be a motivation to train more. I was feeling pretty damn good about myself until a former mil/operator is now going to my range every Saturday morning and he’s mogging me
>>64869441>Why wouldn’t you compete, though?Well, for most, there is no access to a suitable place to train so there's no point in competing. If the first time you've ever shot at multiple targets from positions is at a competition you are wasting your money by entering. You'd be better off spending the money on going to training under competent people than plinking at your local RSO controlled indoor or outdoor range then going to a competition.
>>64869451It's mostly a regional thing. Clubs will either host one or the other, and likely not both. Where I live, IDPA is just a boomer social club, whereas USPSA is much more serious gamers who are trying to win. If you want to just dip your toes into action shooting, look for Steel Challenge matches. It's the simplest sport, and still teaches you fundamentals like holster draw, load and make ready procedure, safety stations, etc. It's also still quite competitive, which I can't say the same about IDPA (at least where I live).
>>64869467It sounds like you haven’t heard of dry fire
>>64869472Dry fire is not suitable replacement for practice that involves the same thing you're competing in and if you think it is you have outed yourself as never competing.
>>64869467This. If it's a one or the other proposition which it is for the majority of shooters you're far better off spending entry fee money on going to training courses than going to competitions. If you can do both, that's the best, but if you can't, training > competing.
>>64869474>dry fire is not suitable replacement for practice https://youtu.be/6NGyHcb-eIk
>>64869484
>>64869474>>64869487every good shooter will tell you train as much as possible, which includes dry fire practicewhere tf do you think you are retard
Where I live, a match fee is 25 bucks, and a two-day training session with a good instructor costs $500. You'll obviously learn more from the instructor, but I don't think the two are really comparable at all. Also, at my local clubs, the mandatory action pistol safety briefing also introduces you to scoring, stage planning, the rules of the game, etc. so it's not like the first time you see an IPSC/USPSA target will be at an actual match.
>>64869492You're the retard if your takeaway you got from my post is "don't dry fire" how about life fire, at yourself? That would be good training for your flavor of stupid.
>life fire>calls others stupidschizotard lol
>>64869467My local IDPA matches cost $20 and it's a perfect entry point for people interested in moving on from static target shooting.
>>64869496If you don’t have access to action bays, like 99.9% or shooters do, then dry fire practice with multiple target drills and then going to competitions to apply the training they’ve done in dry fire is more than enough. You compete, see what you need to improve on, and come up with drills and exercises for targeting those skills. In dry fire and single lane shooting you can isolate individual skills and practice them and then put them all together at a USPSA event. It’s not like they’ll punish people for not being grand master shooters.
Survey for anons here since yet again people are sperging about competitions. 1. How far away from you is your nearest range with tactical bays and/or place you can practice actual competitive shooting?2. How often do you go to either place?I'll start:1. 2.5 hours and members only2. Maybe twice per year since my only option is to go as the guest of a friend with whom there are usually schedule conflicts.
>>64869508>freak the fuck out about a typo instead of addressing the argumentyou lose
>>64869512>It’s not like they’ll punish people for not being grand master shooters.There's no point in going if you're going to be in the bottom of the rankings. Training is more fruitful at that point.
>>64869515>dry fire is not suitable replacement for practice >dry fire is part of practice, what are you talking about retard>your takeaway you got from my post is "don't dry fire" how about life fireyou didn't address shit retard lol>typoright, just don't life fire at me bro
>>648695131. 25 minutes away2. twice a month during the summer, and essentially never during the rainy offseason
>>64869528>strawmanning>more typo spergingGet real nigga
>>64869521lol You’re such a fucking tool. The purpose of this is about getting better, you don’t get better by going to some tactical bearded guy and get taught garbage. You get better by listening to every single word Ben Stoeger’s says and dry fire. Compete, see what needs improvement, target individual skills with live and mostly dry fire, compete again to quantify improvement, repeat. It’s also fun.
>>64869534go back to /arg/ lil bro
>>64869521lol, this is mega cope. Competition is an opportunity to get data on what you need to work on. Is it trigger control? Is it vision control? Is it holster draws, or reloads? You're not there to win nationals, you're there to learn. Also, the people in the bottom quartile of the competition standings are still going to be better than just about everyone on the public flat range.
>guy who got bodied so hard in a single competition now tries to dissuade others from ever testing themselves>tries to console himself, telling himself and others that his singular "training" session with a boomer retard made him skilled, and was more beneficial than competingLOL
>>64869547>samefaggingkek
“Get training” is the “go to therapy” of guns, people who waste money getting taught by people who probably aren’t even that good at shooting always recommend it to everyone in ear shot as the end all be all to happiness or good shooting
Is 5 Star a legit company? I looked it up and found a proper site and article on their speedloaders, but I first found them on>AmazonIt seems to be this or Speed Beez for my Model 69, and I like the material and less bulky profile of these more
>>64869513I'm the guy who originally asked the competition question. 1: very close, but it's weirdly insular. If you don't know a current member, there's 0 chance you're getting in. The next closest one is about 4 hours away. 2: I try to get out there a couple times per year to shoot (never competed), but my schedule is such that I'll never be able to go regularly. I'm lucky that I have a flat range that lets you draw from a holster and shoot multiple targets, albeit in relatively narrow lane compared to something like a USPSA stage. I've tried to convince them to start doing steel challenge but there's not enough interest :(
>>64869551great comparison, especially because it's so vague95% of the "training" industry is just incestuous grifters propping each other up
>>64869556>I'm lucky that I have a flat range that lets you draw from a holster and shoot multiple targets,Even that doesn't exist for me. It's shoot at single target public ranges where you can't even mozambique drill, or drive 2.5 hours to the members only range where you can rent a bay. I don't know of another option that exists within a 4 hour drive.
>>64869559I think there’s a few reputable trainers but they don’t teach you to be a better shooter with “do this technique” but how to train to be a better shooter, drills to do, how to spot issues, certain issues, etc
>>64869554Safariland make my favorite speedloaders. No having to turn a knob, just push down and the rounds fall out into the cylinder.
>>64869556Well, you’re better than most. My range allows holster draws and rapid fire but I’m restricted to shooting multiple targets on the same piece of paper. I did a steel challenge once and identified a lot of things to work on and got to see how fast good shooters are. Get to actually apply ideas like predictive and reactive shooting, engagement strategy
>>64869583The Comp II "L frames" model? The next option just says "Size: 5" and I assume that's round count, which would be the Model 69. Also, should I throw this cartridge away? It got caught in my levergun's retard strength loading gate during one of the 20 times it was loaded and unloaded between hunts
I've always envisioned a form of competition that involved standing on a static firing point, drawing from a holster and running various drills on up to 3 reduced IPSC targets from 7-25 yards with 1 or 2 reloads. The shooter would be scored on the size of their group in the A zone as well as the time they took to complete the stage. I feel something like this could bridge the gap between a full-on USPSA match and boring flat-range plinking. Steel challenge is the closest thing that actually exists, but IMO there are too many shots per stage to be economical for the average person to get good at.
I have a question but I'm saving it for the next thread
>>64869603That just sounds a lot like a GSSF match, except those don’t have reloads. In GSSF, you get huge penalties for every shot you pull out of the A zone (one second for B, 2 for C, etc.), and so the meta is to just be somewhat slow and controlled. Also, a steel challenge match is also only about ~150 rounds, which really isn’t that much.
>>64869596I only have ever used their 6 shot ones for GP100s and 686s. And I wouldn't shoot that.
>>64869592>allows holster draws and rapid fireRealistically, you will never need to engage more than a single target with a handgun, if you find yourself in that situation at all. USPSA is fantastic, very fun, and people who do it are undoubtedly great shooters, but it is way above and beyond what you "need" for self-defense/real-world applications.
>>64869623Alright, I'll pull it and shoot the primer
>>64869621shit I had never heard of GSSF. That looks amazing.
>>64868851>fmjok that's good>low slide velocityget yourself some Fiocchi, they slap harder than the rest
>>64869623Thanks for the suggestion, but they seem to only make 6 shot .44 speedloaders
Happy Valentines Day, boys
>>64869596I have a HKS 5 shot speed loader that works with my model 69
>>64869704Very cool, Anon. I'm quite jealous. I want to build a USP in .45 with a can for a home defense gun
>>64869720How does it feel? I can only judge material by pictures
>>64869704Nothing happy about Valentine’s Day here
>>64869728Like salty milk and coins
>>64869575Dire. Very common for most non-rurals though. It's extremely difficult to find areas where such a range is allowed by the municipality and much public land is either too wooded for run and gun or competition style shooting or that is a prohibited use (state and national parks).
>>64869704Oh it's Valentine's Day? I hope that boy I shot with today didn't think it was a date fml.
>>64869332His thumbs go behind the slide. Try again, there's one video of a cop jumping over obstacles while shooting mid air and crawling while shooting and the M&P has no hiccups. Glocks you take one quick side step and it jams.>>64869304>>64869345I don't wanna end up like those jam videos, and our agency is dropping them anyway. Not sure what we're going with, I've only heard that Sig and Stacatto vendors will be visiting our armorers but likely more.
>>64869378With fully loaded mags the damn things won't seat. You have to slam them excessively and even then they drop sometimes. I have to slow down and really shove them in, and listen for the click which takes a while to get. It's not going to work in a shooting where I can't hear shit and it's way too slow. Like I said I've been issued 4 other Glocks (2 g22s and 2 g17s, this one is a g22) and the issue wasn't this bad, with fully loaded mags it's more difficult to get that click, but never has it been this bad. This is like trying to load an AK mag that's ill fitted. Feels like the gun or mags need to be modified, or i could download by 1 which my other agency required for Glocks. This agency is dumb and won't let me. As in if I get in a shooting and they cound my remaining rounds they'll say I fired an extra one. Won't issue me a new gun either so I'm not risking getting another POS Glock which I never liked anyway. Getting something better quality.
>>64869840Also racking a round on a full mag is excessively difficult, feels like it has to ride over that round then it barely pushes it in. Something is legit wrong with the gun and it's brand new.
Calling all ballisticsbros. I'm looking for a video about terminal ballistics - I saw it a couple years ago and enjoyed it but stupidly never saved it. The speaker was a man with black hair and a black mustache, and in the video he strongly advocated for heavy-for-caliber bullets in handguns for self defense. The video seemed VHS-era in its quality and editing. It was a very fun watch and was obviously lovingly made.Can anybody identify the video I'm talking about?
>>64869842>>64869842Why are you racking with a full magazine instead of inserting with a locked back slide and releasing it? The part of the slide that catches on the fresh round to feed it when the slide moves forward (I forget what it's called) is sliding against the first round in the magazine when you rack the slide, this will make it inherently harder to rack the slide with a full magazine. That's unavoidable. I drop a round into the chamber, drop the slide, then insert a full magazine. New mags can be harder to insert, but they break in. Inserting a full mag with the slide forward then racking is something almost nobody ever does and I'm curious why you'd do that.
>>64869880This thing is what I'm talking about. It's ramped, and if you insert a full mag with the slide forward, it rubs against the first round and pushes it down as you rack the slide and that's a lot of drag on the slide. I have a well worn G19 that I'll try this on when I have it in front of me, but I'm guessing it'll make racking the slide much harder even with my well broken in magazines and gun.
>>64869842Locking the slide back and sending it after I've inserted the mag was automatic when I got my first handgun. Have you never thought to do this?
>>64869880Have you been through a single training course? You don't only reload the gun when it's empty...>>64869901This is just cognitive dissonance, you're defending an obvious piece of shit gun and saying I should just use ridiculous methods to overcome its shittiness? I could just use a better gun...
>>64869842>Also racking a round on a full mag is excessively difficult, feels like it has to ride over that round then it barely pushes it in.Stop this shit. You're going to push the bullets back into the cartridges you're repeatedly feeding, and blow up your gun because of excessive bullet setback. Excessive setback can raise chamber pressures, then you'll cry that your gun blew up and blame the gun when it was your stupid fault. Place your first round in the empty chamber and drop the slide, then insert the mag.
>>64869914Post some pictures of this piece of shit gun of yours.
>>64869914>You don't only reload the gun when it's empty...Are you having a giggle, m8? The only time you rack the slide with a full mag is when the gun is empty. If there was already a round chambered you would not need rack the slide. Therefore you are complaining about something that only happens when the gun is empty.
>>64869915>blame the gun when it was your stupid faultIt would be the gun's fault, holy shit. These issues aren't inherent to handguns in general, they're inherent only to Glocks. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and said maybe it's just this one that's shitty but you're saying they all are, and that tactics have to be adapted around their shittiness. No, just buy a better gun. I've never had another handgun have any issues with mag seating or loading a round from a full mag.
>>64869928>>64869919
>>64869928>It would be the gun's fault, holy shit.Retard, listen to me. If you repeatedly chamber a round and push the bullet into the case IT IS YOUR FAULT. You are doing something you SHOULD NOT DO.
>>64869936He doesn’t even own a gun, dude. He’s just engaging in empty brand wars.
>>64869928>These issues aren't inherent to handguns in general, they're inherent only to Glocks.Hell no, if you repeatedly feed the same round in just about any pistol it will cause bullet setback. It's just the nature of autoloaders. Do a google
>>64869922Your brain is going out of whack because someone said there's something wrong with your favorite toy/sports team brand. I said there are 2 issues, 1 being the mags being loaded into the gun, 1 being racking a round into the chamber. If I have to do a tactical reload there's a serious risk of a mag dropping. I'll revert to previous training and not slam it in excessively hard, or won't have the time to spend pushing it in and hearing the click.
So no pics of the gun or magazine giving you issues, then? Doesn’t seem like you actually wanted help, just wanted to complain about big G, huh?
>>64869946>Your brain is going out of whack because someone said there's something wrong with your favorite toy/sports team brand. I sWrong. Fucking retard. Glocks are ugly as shit, have terrible triggers, and the ergos of a brick. That's why I own only one, you are just a retard acting like a monkey. Nobody racks the slide on a full mag unless the slide is failing to lock back. You're just sperging out because you got called out on acting like a poorly trained dumbass. Stop racking the slide with a full mag, lock the fucker back.Stop feeding the same rounds over and over again, you will blow the gun up. I don't care if you do this to a lorcin 380 or a $5,000 nighthawk 1911, it'll do the same shit.
>>64869946Are your mags broken in? It sounds like your mags aren't broken in. I've literally never heard of someone having this problem with anything but a new mag
I have a strong feeling that this retard cop posting about phantom problems with his Glock is the same guy telling people to not go to competitions and just get “training” from retard ex-cops.
>>64869967Probably. Cops are fucking dumbasses. Police departments actually won't hire you if you score too highly on their qualification tests. Glocks are the most simple retardproof guns out there. It's all they're good for: tool grade gun that goes bang every time. The only people who hate them are elitists and people who are too dumb to own a gun. Everyone else recognizes what they are: a tool. Like a toyota corolla is just a transport pod. Nobody loves them, but only a retard would hate them.
>>64869930No and it's in a locker at work. You wouldn't carry a shit ton of gear to and from work either if Walmart required you to have a toolbelt.>>64869936>>64869942Nobody said anything about repeatedly loading a round. I've duty loaded this thing twice since I got it. I had to do 16 hours of training and each time the instructor had us load our guns on the line it was an issue racking it. Yes you would be loading a full mag into a gun with the slide forward, as usual. So yeah it's a fucking issue, I have to load it that way for hours long courses, and have to do tac reloads to top off the gun during those courses, and may have to tac reload in the field. The Glock fucking fails at those, it's always been difficult except the agency that made us download by 1. I think that's necessary but other guns can actually reliably be loaded to their full advertised capacity. So, fuck Glock.
>>64869976So, no proof of you actually owning this gun, then? No proof of these malfunctions? Don’t worry, I don’t think anyone actually believed you.
Smells like city cop in here
>>64869976>Nobody said anything about repeatedly loading a roundThen what are you doing repeatedly inserting A FULL MAGAZINE WITH THE SLIDE CLOSED? There is no reason to do this unless the gun doesn't lock back, and you didn't say it doesn't lock back. Retards commonly do this when they have an empty gun and are chambering a round, and you're acting like a retard so it's a logical conclusion.
>>64869987>inserting A FULL MAGAZINE WITH THE SLIDE CLOSED?FUCK you made me so mad at your dumb ass that I misspoke. Let me correct:WHY ARE YOU RACKING THE SLIDE WITH A FULL MAG INSERTED
>>64869987>Then what are you doing repeatedly inserting A FULL MAGAZINE WITH THE SLIDE CLOSEDhe could be practicing reload drills like a retard since hes using live ammo. it sounds like something he would do.
>>64869995Disregard that statement you quoted: >>64869993 I corrected it.
So surely you’ll post a video of this magazine not seating in your new G22 when you get to the office, right? Because you’re not a liar?
>>64869987Holy shit you have no training. Let me explain this retard, you're in a gunfight. You have cover, and your gun is 4 rounds from empty. You drop the mag with 4 rounds still in it, the slide is forward, you load a new full magazine and now won't be caught with an empty gun. The fact that you cant even comprehend that negates whatever bullshit you're trying to pull, you're a gun owner not a trained gunfighter. You just went into a store and bought a gun, you don't know shit about how they're actually used in gun related professions.I have shot these guns until my hands have bled and I can tell you Glocks are pieces of shit. But it's like getting a free Honda Civic so might as well use it. But it would also be like if Honda refused to update the timing belts on the Civic so they had a lot of issues that the company just refuses to address. I'm not taking the free piece of shit gun anymore, I'm upgrading to something more reliable and user friendly. End of story.
>>64869976You never answered my question>>64869965. Are the mags brand new or broken in? There is only one scenario where you should ever rack the slide with a full mag and that's a failure of the slide to lock back. This is not something that should happen often enough that it's worth complaining about, maybe the occasional drill for a failure to lock. Just about any gun will be hard to rack with a new full mag pressing against the disconnector rail.
>>64870037>Holy shit you have no training.>you're in a gunfight. You have cover, and your gun is 4 rounds from empty. You drop the mag with 4 rounds still in it, tkek stop kidding yourself barney fife, you aren't gonna be counting rounds in a gunfight. This isn't COD. You're a cop, you're gonna magdump until empty. Also, IF YOU RELOAD AS YOU DESCRIBED YOU WILL NOT BE RACKING THE SLIDE AGAINST A FULL MAGAZINE BECAUSE THE SLIDE WILL BE CLOSED
>>64870037>You have cover, and your gun is 4 rounds from empty. You drop the mag with 4 rounds still in it, the slide is forward, you load a new full magazine and now won't be caught with an empty gun.What does that have to do with excessive difficulty racking the slide with a full magazine? Also, you keep dodging my question: are your mags broken in or new?
>>64870037>I have shot these guns until my hands have bled and I can tell you Glocks are pieces of shitI have never seen anyone that I could confirm was a good shooter call Glocks a piece of shit.>I'm upgrading to something more reliable and user friendlyOkay this is a troll
>>64870038>the mags aren't "broken in!">you're not supposed to reload unless the gun is fully empty with the slide locked to the rear!>you can't just rack a round if the mag is full!>you didn't post picture and video evidence that you even own a Glock!>you can't just shoot it without death gripping it!>you're not supposed to move around in a gunfight, the jamming is your fault!>you're not supposed to put a light on a gun, you tightened it too much!Do you not see the issue here? The gun is SO shitty that you have to doublethink around it in so many ways to justify it. Entire training metas had to be rethought around Glocks because they have so many issues, yet for some reason are still so normal to use. I have an FNS sitting right next to me, I'm loading and unloading a full mag and it's fucking easy. Every other handgun I've used, it's fucking easy. Except my P365 which they tried to make as small as possible so maybe that's why there's so much pressure on that last round. Why did Glock do that? It's a duty sized gun. What retards, bad engineering at its finest. I'm just not gonna buy a piece of shit is all, LOL.
>>64870059You can keep believing what you want. The normies will never realize their own retardation, not even worth trying.
>>64870060I tried to help you in earnest and now you sperg the fuck out with a paragraph of greentext. I'm done with you. Break your mags in officer dipfuck.
>>64870084Mags need to be broken in now, yeah ok. Not necessary for any other gun and likely isn't even the issue. I got a random assortment of 3 mags with different color followers, some gen 4 and some gen 5.
Paging 1911 freak anonYou've convinced me. I want to build a double stack 1911. Is yours bull or bushing barrel? How much fit did your barrel/slide/bushing require and who made it? I only have a couple of screenshots of your posts where you talk about slides, frames and ignition kits.
>>64870084He doesn't actually own this Glock. He invented it all, hence his inability to post pictures of it, or the magazine.
>>64870110>Mags need to be broken in nowUh yeah that's like every single gun, it's not even just handguns. Some AR mags for example are really hard to load when new but when you store them loaded for a while or use them deloaded a couple of rounds they get easier.
Shot my new centimeter gun today. The only downside to the M&P texture is it rapes your hand in 10mm. Unfortunately it wasn't able to feed buffalo bore reliably, but fed 300 flat nose FMJ just fine. Going to swap the optic out to a AEMS Macro when it launches, already have an optic plate ready for it. I also decided to switch to an overwatch trigger. The trigger doesn't seem to be as good on the 10mm version. It has holster compatibility with the 9mm version which is cool.
>>64870192Shot the buffalo bore in a DW Specialist. The ammo spews black smoke. I don't like black, let alone black smoke.
>>64870124I have built two The bull barrel one using an Operator TRP slide with a ramped bull barrel from fusion firearms (nearly drop in, lock up was good enough) and the second is a traditional .45 ACP feed ramp and a Wilson drop in (semi fit) barrel I am not that knowledgeable and basically an amateur ape
>>64870204Some how I have tweaked this bushing hole when trying to fit my steel cheely grip and now I can’t put in the front bushing
>>64870211How is that possible? Did you try putting a fine grit sandpaper in and trying to remove burrs on it?
>>64870216One of my most used tools is a mallet
>>64870219Ever use one to beat off?
>>64870192Wait hold up the 10mm M&P has holster compatibility with the 9mm models? So I can carry a 10mm on duty? I can probably talk head instructor into this since there's bears. I'm >>64869283Would you gaylords finally shut up if I carried 10mm on duty? I would have to buy all my own training ammo which is probably around 1,500-2,000 rounds a year just for minimum training and quals though.
>>64870246you're a retard larper and nobody believes a thing you say
>>64869058Thanks
late as fuck im just happy i did it
>>64870319congrats, friend!
>>64870219You used a mallet to beat your trigger guard sleeve into the forward grip mounting lug? kek maybe I shouldn't be taking any advice from you after all. I would have chamfered the sleeve and maybe stuck a screw in it and spun against some fine sandpaper with my drill if it wasn't fitting right.
>>64869283Ideally a 460 Rowland 2011 or some da/sa. I feel like that would be bad optics though so probably some factory 10mm, 45, or 40. Sig p220, 1911, Beretta 96. There's a lot of guns I'd be happy carrying on duty.
>>64870357I don't think there are any .460 double stack 1911s. Probably because of differences in feed geometry with the conversions, same reason they don't make one for the Mark 23.
>>64869986Officer Nill Kiggers
>>64870356Nah it happened sometime fitting this cheely grip. I didn’t hammer the lug until after it was tweaked probably why Cheely says these are gunsmith fit only and don’t even post a guide Next time I’m probably going to pay a gunsmith to do it
>>64870319Omedetou
>got a revolver for shits and giggles, smith Highway Patrolman (Model 27)>shoot it a bit, not super impressed but it's cool so I'll keep it >been dry firing like crazy because it's so easy with a double action gun >start getting decent at keeping the sights aligned while the shot breaks >figure out that the tension you put into the gun when you pull the trigger actually steadies it >I actually like it now fuck am I becoming a revolverfag?
>>64870472Welcome to the fun life, anon. Get a .44 mag and really live.
>>64870472Do you use snap caps? Aren't you afraid of damaging your revolver?
>>64870356>>64870401Okay did some researchDo not ever use a metal grip
>>64870497I do use snap caps but from what I understand, they're not strictly required in with the old s&w hammer nose design.
>>64870373I have heard of feeding issues with different magazines/followers/springs for a 460 2011. If more than a handful of people had ever tried it there would probably be more info on what setups work.https://youtu.be/cPySlhSbuB0
So which slide looks best with the black?
>>64870246Yeah, will take a pic shortly. I need to check if the backstraps are compatible too, the grips I believe are slightly different. The M&P metal (aluminum) is kinda underwhelming, I would get the new steel ones.>>64870401Fitting them is annoying but it's mostly the lugs on the inside of the grip. Yours looked like it needed additional filing to make the front flush at the rear so it would rotate up more. I've had some grips not require any fitting FWIW. If you got a Cheely frame I bet that would have fit up better.
>>64870604>>64870246
>>64870401The gunsmith is just gonna remove material with a file until it fits if it's off center or turn the sleeve down if the hole is u/min. He isn't anything but a specialized flavor of primitive machinist. It's not like he's going to precision ream a hole that small. If you're lucky and he's a real well equipped pr0 he'll weld the hole up, re drill it in the proper spot and select a tiny precision reamer from his collection to give it the perfect fit with a sleeve.
>>64870666I hammered it and then filed the hole bigger.I researched that a badly fit metal grip will break this lug after many rounds, but I think this grip is very tight since I need to mallet it on and off so that might not be a problem. Might just stick with polymer in the future
Does the LTT Beretta 92 have any upgrades over a stock M9A4 besides the lower dot height that can't be put into the stock gun? You can swap all of the springs and the guide rod is snake oil. Any actual reason to drop more cash on that instead of just upgrading your own internals?
>>64870721I'm not sure if it's still the case but there was a radius undercut they used to do that was part of the base package, that's really the only substantive change that isn't a TJIAB or optic cutI forewent the kit and just got springs and the OP trigger bar. Eventually got the hammer too but I don't think that was near as good a value as the trigger bar and springs. I'm very happy without the rest of the spend
>>64870733To clarify, I do not believe there are any internal changes in the base model LTT, just the grips, undercut, front serrations, silver coated trigger, sights and branding I believe. To that you can add things like the TJIAB, NP3 parts and optic cut. One of the resident autists can confirm/deny
>>64870721>>64870733Gotcha, thanks. I got the trigger return spring and trigger bar. Order a Volker Precision trigger. Probably gonna have it painted black, but I need to find an actual silver barrel. I hate how matte Inox is.
>>64870773Inox is stainless steel, you can just polish it
Why is it so hard to order a small M&P 45 2.0 back strap? I want to replace my first gen back strap and I can't find them. eBay listings only have all 4 for $30-40. Dammit. I'm considering just getting Talons.
>>64870604>>64870646Nice. The aluminum seems good if you don't wanna increase weight, like using a 9mm where there's not much recoil. Carrying a 2lb gun around all day for years would suck. But I have a 2lb bull barrel Witness 10mm and it still kicks like a Downs girl so the weight would help there.I just saw that there's a steel frame 10mm M&P. I'm hard as diamonds.
>>64869914>you're defending an obvious piece of shit gun and saying I should just use ridiculous methods to overcome its shittiness?Right, the ridiculous method of locking the slide back before inserting the magazine
>>64870835I don't need to do that with any of my other guns except the Glock, and it's not a normal thing to have to do for any gun. I'm not getting the gun that's so shitty you have to work around it. There are better options for cheaper. A Glock is as shitty as you can make a gun before it becomes overtly noticeable. Enjoy your gay looking gen 6. Plastic makes you gay if you touch it btw so keep fondling your trannification toy.
>>64870807It's a steel frame 9mm not 10 unfortunately. That would be sick.
>>64865543What's the best roodaly dootaly for a pistolerino?I want something that's sleek and not too big that it gets in the way when carrying or racking. I have no experience with them and wanted to get a gun to test them out. I have one picked out that has the option for higher sights or standard pistol sights. Is it necessary to get the sights that sit higher? Will I not be able to see the irons if I get the standard low sights?
>>64870793Really? You sure? Guess that's one problem solved.
>>64870928RMR is probably the sleekest, SRO is probably the sexiest, but the rounded shape means direct drops onto the apex will more than likely shatter the lens.
>>64870928Ideally you’d want cowittness irons through your optic, as a back up if your red dot died, battery ran out, etc but if your lens is destroyed on your red dot you might not be able to see through it anyway. I mostly use the BUIS to zero the optic A bigger window is easier to use. Red dots have a pretty steep learning curve on how to use them effectively/fast. Like being able to look at a target and then aim at the target without consciously looking at your sights. Being able to draw the gun and the red dot is where you’re looking. Once you learn how to do that you become a much better shooter.
>>64870928Cyelee
>>64870937Inox is the Italian word for stainless steel. It’s not a finish, except a bead blasted matte finish on the stainless. The aluminum frame is just anodized but the slide and barrel are stainless2nd from right is a polished inox barrel. You can get Barsto match barrels that are polished stainless
>>64870928EPS
>>64870947Neat, I'll probably end up liking them. I just got a red dot on my rifle and it's been a great improvement.If I were to run an SCS would standard height sights be tall enough to cowitness?
>>64870990Depends on the gun, on a few guns the eps/scs/romeo X cowitness with standard height
>>64868851I assume you are using 115g try heavier bullet weightsHeavier bullet weights means the bullet needs more forward force to push it out of the barrel meaning there is going to be more back force on the recoil.>>64868887P226s will rattle as you run more rounds through them and they wear, I have a new p226 that has like 300 rounds through it and it doesnt rattle, but my older p226 weith 4.5k rounds rattle, its not crazy but it definitely rattles, it rattles a lot less if there is a loaded magazine in it though
yo guys remember that dude who pretended to be a cop so he could complain about "problems" with a gun he doesn't own?lol
>>64870949Ah, thanks. I was thinking I'd have to get one specially made or something.
>>64871010"Post pics" is the /hg/ trump card. 100% success.
are shoulder holsters cofmy? Btw virginia anons stay strong.
>>64870928A direct mount enclosed dot that fits your frame's optic footprint.
>>64870994>>64871369Will an EPS Core fit an m&p without having to get the raised sights version? Those look so dumb I'd rather get one that sits low. Looks like they have an SCS made for the m&p that will sit low, but that's an open emitter. I agree with getting a closed one.
>>64870603RAL8000 all the way. I was tempted to scoop, given the big discount, but I just can't justify making a second Match rn.
>>64871391The 2.0 uses a plate system to cover multiple footprints including rmsc so it should be doable but most of your optics are going to sit on a plate and likely not cowitness. There is a direct mount optic for the M&P 2.0 called the SCS MP2 but its single pane, on the flipside it actually looks like it mounts low enough to cowitness with regular irons.
I am going to keep doing more research but I want to ask here as well. What would be the best choice for my first handgun, that is simple to get, mostly slim, metal, and hammer-fired? It would be for practicing shooting and practicing carrying. This is the list I have so far:-OG FN/Browning Hi-Power-Springfield SA35-Girsan P35 (+match or LW)-CZ P-01/75 Compact PCR-Sig P225(+A1)-Sig P239I made this list off of ones that seem similar and catch my interest, and also to try to find the right balance of cost vs quality. Anything I do get, I will probably add aftermarket parts to. What are some others too I have possibly missed?
>>64870928ACRO
>>64871852Well, none of those are slim, so we'll start there. >-OG FN/Browning Hi-PowerBig and heavy, you'll probably rarely carry it>-Springfield SA35Big and heavy, you'll probably rarely carry it>-Girsan P35 (+match or LW)Big and heavy, you'll probably rarely carry it>-CZ P-01/75 Compact PCRHalf inch less length, but still pretty big and heavy>-Sig P225(+A1)Getting closer to you might actually regularly carry this territory but I personally am not a fan of DAO>-Sig P239This is what I'd pick because it's the smallest of themThe gun you carry all the time > the better gun that you leave at home. Carrying metal full size guns seems romantic but they are a minority in EDC for a reason. Depending on your climate and dress they're harder to conceal, and it's definitely more uncomfortable and inconvenient to carry them than compact or subcompact guns. The weight means more than you'd think. With guns that push 30oz unloaded your holster and belt start to matter a lot more, it's where all of the rigid, expensive carry belts start to come into the picture. I live in the south, it's hot. I throw a polymer subcompact in my pants pocket or use an IWB holster with a regular belt, I carry a compact or full size once in a while when whether suits it. With big long guns AIWB conceals but it sucks ass when you sit down or have to bend/squat. 4:00 carry works too but you have to make sure you have a long and loose shirt on or it might ride up if you bend over. Printing itself isn't a massive deal but should be avoided, and you never want your gun to expose itself when you move. See that video where the guy gets his gun yoinked by an urban youth in a gas station.
>>64871852For the love of god do not buy a hipower
>>64871895>whetherPlease excuse my momentary lapse of language skills, I have been stewing in brake cleaner fumes in my garage all morning.
>>64871895225 is DA/SA, pretty darn close in size to the 239 - wouldn't hesitate to carry either one but like the grip on the 225 a bit better
>>64871852This is a strange list, are you going by aesthetic? As >>64871895 already mentioned, most of them are big. I'll add that small ones are single stack and discontinued. In addition, none of those pistols are optic ready. Current meta is shooting with a red dot, since they finally got good and cheap, and slim double stack guns, making a gun that is beginner friendly at the range, also easy to conceal. Mostly striker fired guns in that group. If I were to suddenly lose every firearm I own and need to buy a first gun today, I'd probably go for p365 xmacro or fuse, and buy it an axg grip. Or go for its direct competitors that aren't Sig.Now, if you hate the meta and couldn't give two shits about how easy a gun is to carry, or how much easier it is to aim through a red dot, out of principle, you want a gun made of honest blue steel with wood stocks and iron sights, by all means get that high power reissue, they are beautiful.
New bread >64871958
>>64871963>making a new thread when you're such a newfag you can't even figure out how to link it
>>64871971it's a stock photo too kek
>>64871984Well that doesn't bother me, there are plenty of cool looking guns I'd post a pic of that I don't own.
>>64871992The 4506 isn't that /k/ool or rare. Quite frankly, I would have done it better with some shooting video of it or slow motion
>>64872005Look, I'm not getting into a debate about why you don't like it, I didn't even say I *do* like it. I'm just saying it's not even worth noticing when someone posts a pic of a gun they do not own on this board. Probably 90%+ of images on this board are not images taken by the people posting them.
>>64871895>>64871902>>64871931This is essentially a list I came up with that are all somewhat compact and “smaller than a full-size service pistol”, and also not super tinyThey were what I was looking at for a very very first pistol to practice with before I get something more compact to dedicate to concealment and carrySmall enough to not be giant but big enough to handle easilyI do not want a striker-fired in the slightest, and my thought on these was just irons for simplicity.Some of those smaller ones for later were stuff like the CSX (+E Series), PX4 Storm Compact, P30SK, Rami, CDS9, etc
>>64872077I >>64871895 have a CSX-E, I like it. They do seem to be inconsistent from gun to gun on how heavy the trigger is. I'd pick it over every gun on your list 10/10 times since it is much smaller and lighter with better capacity than those single stack Sigs. Other than the Rami this is the only gun you've named that I would actually recommend as a CCW.>PX4 Storm Compact Fat boy, if you were looking for "slim", actually as large as or larger than some of the other options you named despite being called "compact">P30SKNo opinion other than "HKs are way overpriced" the only HK I own is my Mark 23.>RamiFinally getting into actual compacts. >CDS9I'm still anti-kimber because of the 2000s/2010s but I don't know if that's relevant anymore.
>>64871852>-OG FN/Browning Hi-Power>-Springfield SA35>-Girsan P35 (+match or LW)Don't get any of these unless you want to have a shitty gun, OR endlessly autismo tinker with a gun, OR pay a boomer a pile of cash to make an originalish Hi-power into a decent gun. There are so many different patterns of "Hi-power" it is serious autism territory.>-CZ P-01/75 Compact PCRBoth are decent compact double-stack alloy pistols. At just under 30oz, they are a decent weight for both carry and shooting. Downsides (just CZ stuff ): painted finish on slide and frame, rough/unfinished interior surfaces, few choices on aftermarket sights, no-optic ready option. Trigger jobs can get pricey with Cajun Gun Works. Paint is a shitty pistol finish.>-Sig P225(+A1)>-Sig P239Sig offers the 229, which is closer in configuration, size, and weight to the CZ P-01, and 75 PCR that you listed. Even with taking a chance on nu-Sig is a good option. The 229 Elite is optic ready. There is also the 'M11-A1' model if you want the retro no-rail look. Just don't get any Legion model as the Cerakote will chip off. Again, paint is a shitty finish for a pistol.
>>64872128The Px4 compact is 1.2 inches wide. The P30sk is 1.3-1.37
Which Beretta should I go with? M9, M9A1, 92FS(Inox, Brigadier, Regular)These are the options available to me and money wont be an issue. I do want to send it off for custom work eventually.
>>6487262392fs if you just want a cool looking pistolm9 if you wanna gwot larpm9a1 if you want a rail
What are we drinking tonight, bros? For me it's Adolph's Banquet Beer.
>>64872623Don't forget the rebatehttps://www.beretta.com/en-us/rebates
>>>64873152Thanks. Plenty more for ammo now. I'm going with the Brigadier since both sights can be swapped out. https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/beretta-92-fs-brigadier-9mm-luger-49in-black-pistol-101-rounds/p/1540798
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