I mean, it's a submarine. Isnt it supposed to be sinking? What's so bad about it?>The US Navy does not have the capacity to build the SSN(X) submarines at scale—but rather than acknowledging this, it has simply attempted to delay their completion dates.The US Navy is entering a period in which submarines will be the most important manned platform it possesses. Yet the Navy is undergoing a massive submarine building (and maintenance) crisis. This relates to the overall, ongoing US naval shipyard crisis. >Submarines are the Navy’s Future. Why Is It Dragging Its Feet on Them?One of the biggest investments the Navy has made in recent years is in the new SSN(X) program—billed as the next-generation attack submarine designed to replace the current Virginia-class submarine program, which itself has struggled with production woes.>As of 2025, the Navy has deferred initial procurement for these new, highly complex—very expensive—SSN(X) platforms from Fiscal Year 2035 to FY 2040. And it is far from clear if those procurement plans will remain fixed, given the strains on the overall US economy and the increasing political toxicity of endlessly funding the US defense apparatus the way Congress has been doing.
Implessive.
>>64877720Those prions caused by eating too much spinal fluids of sacrificed and raped babies have caused irrepairable neurological diseases among the US elites. Even western engineers and scientists are affected, since even fucking Steven Hawkings was invited to the Epstein island to partake the satanist rituals.You cannot expect the Sodomite Empire to be capable of producing ANYTHING at all.
> battleships phased out because they were too expensive and armor was no longer impenetrable> submarines are way too expensive and you can see through water now
>>64877733chinkshill randomly starts talking about epstein againnu/pol/ is over that way nigga.
>>64877749Blame your own cannibal leaders for providing the rest of the non-cannibal kike world this insight that will forever flush your pedo empire's reputation down the sewage pipe where it belongs.
>TNI
>>64877752Abloo blour blowoo bloobibbal bloobbers bloorbb bloobviding blah blah bah
>>64877766Your prions disease acting up already?Here, have a piece of jerky for the withdrawal symptoms.
>>64877752>b-blame your own cannibal leadersi'm not americanlook, lil nigga, you think you've found a new wedge with the epstein stuff, but nobody cares about you trying to hide your weird chinkshilling under that veil, everybody hates the elite, you're not a genius for taking that and going>s-so we should shill for the chinese eliteas you have been doing for the past few years, it's pathetic.>r-rest of the non-cannibal kike worldLMAO
>>64877768Your leaders are American.No matter if you are that german loser, that polish car-thief, or some eastern euro subhuman who swore loyalty to the American empire in hopes to get even with the Russians for ancient butthurt reasons. Your leaders are cannibal child rapists and you are shilling for them right at this moment.
>>64877770What makes you think yours and the shitholes you shill for aren't?
>>64877720It doesn't seem so bad when you realize that the current-gen attack submarines are the most advanced on the planet, and every other country with submarines is sinking into irrelevance even faster than we are.
>>64877770>unlike me, the brownoid failure that thinks he's a hero for having constant chinkshilling meltdowns on /k/LMAOeverybody already hates epstein, you're not winning anyone over with that lmao.>ancient butthurt reasons>t. angry zigger seething that his favourite "champion" was so thoroughly humiliated he had to switch to shilling for china now take your drivel word vomit to nu/pol/
>>64877720lmao no refunds australians
>>64877780Because I live in China and we hate jewish dogs.
>>64877720>The National InterestUnironically got kompromat at some point in the last 5 years and is now a domestic source of russian and chinese propaganda aimed towards the US. In the real world, just 2 days ago Australia committed hard funds to their nuclear submarine shipyard project, which will primarily be constructing nuclear subs (Virginia first) for the US and Britain. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-pledges-27-billion-progress-nuclear-submarine-shipyard-build-2026-02-15/
>>64877818you don't live in china, you are a contrarian westerner seething in the west because you have failed at life, and instead of picking yourself up and finding a job you've just been spamming unhinged passive-aggressive seethe on this board for the last few years in the hopes that the baby-blood drinking chink elite will save you from the baby-blood drinking western elite and finally unloser you.before you start worrying about global clashes of morality, i suggest you get your life in order, start with cleaning your room and brushing your teeth every night.
>Chinkshill having a big ol meltie
Baby-killer is mad
No need to be mad.The pain will be quickly over once you let yourself get eaten by the epstein class.
>>64877846>chink-lover is madyes, correct.
>>64877720the main problem is that spics countries can't figure out how to build a nuclear submarine. the hispanicization of the united states necessarily means they will become increasingly unable to build nuclear submarines. they have to go back to diesels to match the capabilities of their brazilification
>>64877818>I haven't heard of anything, therefore it doesn't exist muslim tier logicI'm sure the country of gutter oil, piss boy eggs, and rhinoceros horn powder has no pedophilia going on because a single ccp official didn't trust epsteinYou've been jumping up and down like a retard for days as if one message absolves a country of more than a billion where almost all information is censored and controlled
>>64877851Implessive. Now post the total number of nuclear submarines China has, after those years of advantage?
>>64877851>>64877846>>64877874so, my retarded contrarian chinkshill friend, why did you memoryhole that conversation between xi and jewtin where they discuss organ transplantation?again, this is why you are called a contrarian>LE BABYDICK EATING CHINKS AND ZIGGERS ARE BETTER THEN LE BABYDICK EATING WESTERNER JEWS, BECAUSE LE CHINKS TURN IT INTO A POWDER FIRST AND SELL IT IN CUTE LITTLE SHOPS!you are a useful idiot, not a person. you'd have a much clearer head if you didn't spend half your day gooning and spamming lies about chinese capabilities on /k/.clean your room.>>64877881the guy you're talking to is not chinese, he'd like to believe he is, because he thinks the chinese would treat traitors well and not neck them as soon as they lose their usefulness, being naive as he is.
>>64877828>>64877892We do have one actual chink likes to dodge his own government's firewall only to then shill for that same government here. He's posted pictures in China before, with certain consumer products only sold in China. Could've been on a trip I suppose but it didn't look like a tourist spot and that would be a long way to go for a LARP. He is (one of?) the one that has an absolute meltdown within 2 or 3 replies to his own thread - he posted the aforementioned pics during one such meltdown.His usual MO for posting is a sketchy news/blog post screenshot about either nuclear submarines or jet aircraft, so this actually does look like his thread.
>>648778902nd most after the US by now.And all new boats being 093A/B at least. Old loud Han-class are retired.
Newest 095 "Sino-Seawolf" 10,000+ tonne class SSGN related.
>>64878038So less than half the US fleet alone. Got it. Lmao
>>64877720>Nightmare WeichertLolLmao>>64375309they call him Brandon "Nightmare" Weichert!>The U.S. Navy's Zumwalt-Class Destroyer Nightmare Has Begun>The U.S. Navy's Los Angeles-Class Submarine Nightmare Is Chilling>The Navy's Columbia-Class Nightmare Is Worse Than You Can Imagine>The U.S. Navy's Aircraft Carrier Nightmare Is Unfixable>The Air Force's NGAD Fighter Nightmare Is Just Getting Started>The Su-35 Fighter Nightmare for Russia in Ukraine Is Very Dangerous>Russia's Su-34 Fullback Fighter-Bomber Nightmare in Ukraine Should Shock No One>China's Coming Age of the Aircraft Carrier Is a Nightmare for the Navy>The Navy's Aircraft Carrier Nightmare Is Just Getting Started Now>The Navy's Seawolf-Class Submarine Nightmare Has Just Begun>Russia's Kirov-Class Battlecruisers: A Nightmare That Isn't Going to Stop>China's Aircraft Carrier Nightmare Is Just Getting Started>Russia's T-90M Tank Nightmare Has Just Begun>Russia's Kirov-Class Battlecruiser Nightmare Is Very Real>The U.S. Navy's Virginia-Class Submarine Nightmare Is Just Getting Started>The U.S. Navy's Constellation-Class Frigate Nightmare Is Real>Russia's Su-33 Aircraft Carrier Fighter Nightmare Is Embarrassing>Russia's Su-57 Felon Fighter Nightmare Is Just Getting Startedbest part is that all these articles (AND MORE) were published in the span of just 30 daysDamn son that's a lot of NIGHTMARES!!
>>64878109Why are you crying?
>>64878109Any single hall can build four subs at the same time.
>>64878111Are you seeing things or is this just your human-meat caused neurological diseases speaking?
>>64878115Why do you talk like that?
>>64878109>>64878115Even for a chink this is deranged
Oh man you guys better be careful, China might...do something. (They won't.)
>Call it a "crisis">Refuse to admit the real problem(shipyards now surrounded by ghettos, and whites fleeing)>anti-discrimination rules mean you can't have an intelligent workforceOnly solution is claiming more money needs to be spent, which won't fix things.... Oh well America in a nutshellThere are consequences for becoming a country that makes industries flee... Now we are seeing it across the board for procurement>>64877890China will build these sorts of complex projects at 1/4 or less than the westBragging about our legacy fleet from the fucking 80's is RETARDATION
>>64878109Meanwhile China sets up new shipyards next to major cities, places that are clean, nice to live, all the workers can buy an apartment nearby, get paid well, etcAnd then we wonder why China is outpacing us? What is the average IQ of a worker on a US shipyard, vs a Chinese shipyard?
>>64877818According to Japanese and Koreans, Chinese are eastern Jews.
>>64878486Implessive even
>>64877720Australia just gave you several billion dollars to fix your Virginia procurement. Stop wasting it.
>>64877752Bruh the CCP are the kings of cannibalism. Just because a few kikes are into it, doesnt mean the average America is beyond fucked by prions entering food production 2 decades ago making everyone retarded.
>>64877720So whats the deal with this shit. Gonna go with its basically impossible to work in these shipyards. Because who in trades has all the extra skills needed to work on this shit. As well as the insane security clearance needed to get involved with even the most basic shit involving sub manufacturing.Its as if they are shooting themselves in the foot on purpose desu. The navy has been crying much ship building capacity for ages, what have they even done to ensure a work force let alone promote said work force especially for a younger generation to get involved with. Because we all known how caring thoughtful educational boomers in trades are. As fucking with everything else in America the problem is greedy fucking boomers refusing to let go or even fucking adapt to the god damn future that was 30 years ago.
>>64879040Electric Boat hires anyone with a pulse and US citizenship. They don't even turn down weed-positive drug tests anymore. The pool of workers who are legally able to look at NOFORN documents and willing to put up with steel work conditions is too small.
>>64878486i tried to start a white house petition to name the new battleship the USS Epstein and therefore create an Epstein Class but they killed the link
NATIONALIZE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX>but muh stockstoo damn bad, if you have stocks in GD/LM/NG/Raytheon/Boeing/etc, you don't anymore
>>64877818Chiner LOVES jews, and Xi's jew handler is Robert L. Kuhn, a jewyork investment banker. Furthermore, jews trained and created the CCP, Chiner allowed jews to escape Germany during and after WWII, and jews are responsible for building up Chiner's biggest cities. Moreover, jews worked with the CCP to move manufacturing to Chiner and helped them get industrial IP along with selling Chiner US military secrets and tech. Stop the easily disproven bullshit cope. Now fuck off back to /pol/, you dysgenic tankie troon from leftypol.>Jewish Contributions to the Chinese RevolutionPDF: https://icsum.org.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/IJCS-112-1Yitzhak-for-website.pdf>ISRAEL EPSTEIN, PROPAGANDIST FOR CHINESE COMMUNISMhttps://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2005-06-03-0506021181-story.html>Israel Epstein, Prominent Chinese Communist, Dies at 90https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/02/world/asia/israel-epstein-prominent-chinese-communist-dies-at-90.html>President Hu Visits Israel Epsteinhttp://www.china.org.cn/english/2005/Apr/126063.htm>Chinese President Praises Jewish Journalist Israel Epsteinhttps://forward.com/news/israel/3328/chinese-president-praises-jewish-journalist-israel/>Wounding Ideals: Israel Epstein’s Life Saga in Communist Chinahttps://www.davidpublisher.com/Public/uploads/Contribute/599e481e2d901.pdf>BOOK REVIEW OF "TIBET TRANSFORMED" BY ISRAEL EPSTEINhttps://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/warrensmithbooks/Transformation.pdf>A Jew in Mao's Chinahttps://forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/>How a Jewish doctor helped form backbone of revolutionary China’s medical systemhttps://www.timesofisrael.com/how-a-jewish-doctor-helped-form-backbone-of-revolutionary-chinas-medical-system/Dr. Rosenfeld is an outstanding example of China's international friends>The Jews Who Fought With Maohttps://www.haaretz.com/the-jews-who-fought-with-mao-1.5272071
>>64879248you know, i still get cultural whiplash from the fact that leftists are now the premier anti-jews and the right are now the biggest israeli bootlickers on the planet.most of the planet really are just cattle, huh?
All accusations of chinkshilling and implessive aside:how the FUCK do we fix the Navy's procurement? I'm fucking sick of watching people get complacent and assume we'll just roflstomp the rest of the world forever while basically every naval platform ages and shipbuilding capacity shrinks. do we need to strap all of Congress down and make them watch Top Gun on repeat until they do something? make them do wog day? brainwash MIC CEOs? what the fuck is the solution?
>>64879878There isn't a solution that doesn't involve prohibitive amounts of spending over several generations in several different areas of which actual shipyards are only a minor part of the equation.
>>64877781>It doesn't seem so bad when you realize that the current-gen attack submarines are the most advanced on the planet, and every other country with submarines is sinking into irrelevance even faster than we are.America can not build new Virginias fast enough to replace old subs that have to be redlined because their hulls and reactors are shot. If we assume an average age of 30 years of operational life time for a sub, and America builds 1.2 Virginias per year, it means that America can at most field 36 SSNs in total. That America only builds 1.2 Virginias per year was revealed in the Australian sub purchase.
>>64879200>i tried to start a white house petition to name the new battleship the USS Epstein and therefore create an Epstein Class but they killed the linkHahaha thats classic 4chan trolling of normies.
>>64879878>how the FUCK do we fix the Navy's procurement?Thats the neat thing, you cant. America is undergoing civilisational senescence.
>>64877727Resting on the laurels is the best strategy keep it up.
>>64879878>All accusations of chinkshilling and implessive aside:>how the FUCK do we fix the Navy's procurement? I'm fucking sick of watching people get complacent and assume we'll just roflstomp the rest of the world forever while basically every naval platform ages and shipbuilding capacity shrinks.>do we need to strap all of Congress down and make them watch Top Gun on repeat until they do something? make them do wog day? brainwash MIC CEOs? what the fuck is the solution?First, you get rid of the entire surface branch, but only on paper. You simply re-classify destroyers, cruisers, frigates, aircraft carriers as non-submersible submersibles.This might seem odd at first, but the only branch of the navy which basically had smooth sailing for their procurement was the sub mafia.Sub mafia strong. They grabbed tons of budget and got their designs build with little problems for the most part.The surface guys completely lost it.So we simply make the procurement of everything that floats the responsibility of the sub mafia by classifying it as a sub.This now means the sub mafia will not fight destroyers because well - they're their destroyers now.Then we bump the pay of these guys, anyone in procurement, by 500%. Give them fat stacks.But create a new law that, if they take a cent from anyone else for anything, they go STRAIGHT TO JAIL. Let's call it the "Trump act of fair compensation for key decision makers" with the stipulation that any whiff of corruption gets you Leavenworth. No more cushy board seats.Congress needs to stop messing and give the Navy money and a mandate, but let them figure out the how.Needs some long-term contracts where the Navy basically buys long-term fixed yard capacity, and pays the same rate no matter if ships are ordered or not. Upkeep the yards, upkeep the workers, steady pay.But link 100% of the exec bonusses on milestones and delivery rates.Unfuck programs and stagger them so you utilize yards steady, not in bursts.
