The US sends a spec ops team into Central America to do some black ops stuff or whatever, when a Predator shows up to hunt them. How would they do against it, with modern technology but no preparation?
Yeah
Imagine what happened in the movie Lone Survivor, except Marky Mark gets his butthole turned inside out by the Predator.
>>64881165Drone
>>64881165>uno reverse card thermalsIt really do be like that.
>>64881178>Drone>Predator shoots your drone out of the sky with his shoulder-mounted laser thingy>nothing personal
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>>64881178>>64881202Unironically drones and cameras destroy all cool settings.Its The End Of The History. Vampire Masquerade? Joke in the age of the surveillance camera and iphone.Predator? Joke when 20 quadcopters are filming him at once.We killed The God. There cant be cool anymore.Even in DreamsWe cant dream.Only pathetic struggle in a mud under unblinking all seeing eye of the drone filming when you die.
Mission complete: predator successfully impregnated and abandoned
>>64881265marines will fuck anything
>>64881256Vampires don't show up on recording devices, and I'm sure the alien hunter that traveled here through the vastness of interstellar space just to go on a safari has no counter for a 50 dollar quadcopter toy.
>>64881256The only reason VtM fails as a setting is because they never embraced the natural conclusion that vampires would absolutely be secretly in charge of governments. The surveillance state doesn’t matter if the monsters are the watching eyes. Oddly, the whole setting has a fairly pro fed angle all things considered.
>>64881269>vampires don't show up on recording deviceshttps://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/extremely-loud-incorrect-buzzer-43033/There is only specific skill (not universal for all vampires) that makes people dont see happening while watching records .... but records are still preserved.Naive millennials from 80s couldn't image every corner of NY woudl be filmed by 10 cameras at once.
>>64881280Point of VtM is to have fun.They have their guys inside government sure. But also they have opposition guys in bikers clubs just having funhttps://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/extremely-loud-incorrect-buzzer-43033/Cant have fun after we killed The God with an iPhone.>>64881269See P2 when Predator was filmed going into refrigerators without him knowing. Canon he was pwned by some remote camera lul
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>>64881306>>See P2 when Predator was filmed going into refrigerators without him knowing. Canon he was pwned by some remote camera lulIt literally realized immediately someone was recording him right away and then simply used more vision modes to pick up camera signals and flash lights, also it picked up on conversations the characters had over the phone which implies they can and do intercept signals with whatever bullshit tech they got. The thing about the Predators is that they always gimp their tech -on purpose- so we can never assume what they're actually capable of since they're doing it for fun.
>>64882596In one of the AVP games the opening has them roll up on a USCM ship and blast it out of the sky with a single salvo, and the marines don't even know what the fuck happened, even at the end of the game. The predators do not fuck around when they take the kid gloves off.
>>64881256The internet + mobile phones + modern surveillance methods really fucked things up for writers who want to set their stories in contemporary times. The cold war was the last time you could have a mystery or an adventure and have it be even remotely believable.
>>64882683EMP
>>64882683That's just because writers are old and stupid and don't keep up with tech and the vast new fields of weird unknowns discovered every day.People just need to get it through their heads that we're literally in the future and the narrative devices and stories they're used to belong to a past era. It's like writing a story around world travelling being doneexclusively on boat.
>>64881280It did though. Not in a cohesive sense, but one of the recurring things in VTM is that all human wars are just proxy conflicts for vampire disputes, hence why everyone politely agrees to not touch WW2 because of the tacit implication that the Nazis were a proxy for one or more of the major factions; and said faction either were aware of or actively facilitated the holocaust; which was a little too much for an early 90s board game about goth fashion.
>>64882748We know we're in the future, it's just the future is shit.
>>64881189The laser is unidirectional and good for static targets. A drone can quickly change course.
>>64881165If it bleeds we can rape it
>>64882748There is also the fact that the internet and smartphones have turned everyone into a retard, so whenever any human being displays even the smallest amount of seriousness and dignity instead of acting like a child, your immersion instantly shatters.
>>64883242They also seem to duppress survival instinct. Can't even count the number of people I've almost run over because they step off the curb without even looking if there's a big red easily noticeable pickup truck currently making a turn in their general direction.
>>64882909Drones also have very little shielding and by the time a laser is detected they’re already fried.
>>64881178>can't spot it>gets detected by sensor mask>oeprator is hunted down
>>64882911Ooh rah>>64883549Vid relatedhttps://youtu.be/QpWl1EmtWNs
>>64881280Main reason it's not the case in the World of Darkness setting is because of all the OTHER secret conspiracies and power blocks. The vampire princes ain't got shit on the Technocracy.
>>64881165So if you find a woman who likes Predator more than she likes men you'll be happy forever?>wanna watch predator again, honey?>of course!>pic rel
>>64881189But its a... predator drone :DDDDD
>>64881165Predator instantly spotted by thermals, but maybe not blowup by EFP strapped to Walmart drone due to the plasma caster having auto-aim functions.Being a weekend warrior on Earth has become real fucking difficult since the 90s. You basically can't hunt whites anymore and all the other predators mock you around the office for only having the heads of darkies on the wall. Remember predators don't care about Earth politics so unlike libtards they can't pretend that skulls of different races are not extremely distinct and distinguishable at a glance.
>>64882777>>64883592Yet they all act like the others don't exist or aren't important. The reality is libtards can come up with interesting ideas but always fail in the execution due to their inherent sensibilities. Massive conspiracies by actual bloodsuckers hits a little too close to home and might attract the "wrong" type of fan when a company is staffed by social signaling addicted faggots.>>64881294LIke this they are too pussy to mention shit even when it confirms to their narratives because "muh offense". I meanwhile think the holohoax is totally fake but used in my Homebrew Delta Green scenarios. In that alternate history the Germans got ahold of some weird Old One shit from texts they dug up. These immediately start corrupting everybody involved up the chain of command, not to Ebil Mustache Man but only to Himmler thus explaining his intransigence as the war went on and even he doesn't know the retarded and crazy shit going on on the ground, thus also explaining why most of the holohoax narrative is physically impossible, because it was Cthulhu shit making the impossible possible via fucked up rituals. Meanwhile proto-Delta Green is using the war as a cover to murder every Deep One and Elder Thing they can find to ensure total human(US) supremacy. After the war the Russians who already had occult shit going due to secret lich Rasputin and the US quietly pretend they didn't steal all the Nazi's shit and continue the projects. In this case Himmler's defection was deliberate, a body double was brainwashed and executed, and the actual Himmler later went insane and died screaming in a federal basemen in the 70s after playing psychic grabass with one too many star vampires.Libtards write "dark" settings wherein everybody is supposed to be an asshole but because they are pussies they can't revel in it. Being an asshole is fun so enjoy it unironically.
>>64881172Predator fucking shits
>>64883581Neat. Looks kinda comical though.
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>>64884361You are one ugly motherfucker.
>>64881165I really like that one of GW's newer ork minis is just a green Carl Weathers from this movie.
The USA has exclusively been killing third worlders who literally aren't trained to aim down their sights since the 60s. US special forces are the most overrated warriors in human history.>Millions of dollars in training per operator>Each outfitted with thousands of dollars of cutting-edge equipment and armor>Can literally see in the dark and in infrared>Blank check for virtually any weapons they want to carry>Can arrive at any location on Earth in a matter of hours>Comms wired up to constant air support and surveillance >Fed intel by the most powerful, world-spanning intelligence agencies in human history>shot in the head by a teenage goat herder with a Soviet rifle that hasn't been cleaned in 30 years>dies en route in a helicopter crash a hundred miles miles into the mountains of Fuckistan>lies compulsively on a podcast about some shit he stole from a Steven Segal movie>puts a skirt on and cuts his dick off
>>64884441yeah dude i bet you could solo them
>>64884448Good point.
>>64882777The Sabbat would definitely do a little genocide just for shits and giggles. Would also explain how fucking harebrained some of the Nazi tech was, like that tiny rocket plane that used hydrazine (the goo that dissolves you).
>>64881165Like any spec ops shit, their success depends on how much hard drugs they have access to. With an adequate supply, they are mindless killing machines. Once they run out, it’s just a matter of whether the withdrawals or the predator gets them first.
>>64884441You know if you were gonna talk shit you could at least talk actual shit. It's always either:1) hundreds of RPGs fired and one hits a chopper2) Low-drag fags armed with M4s get ambushed by ragheads with a DShK in a prepared position and big shocker crew served weapons are better than carbines.When turdies find rare success its because they by dumb luck achieved temporary fire superiority. So its less that US SF are overrated and more that everything is dependent on the concentration of force and individual skill is just the smallest input into the equation which determines how much force is being applied. Git gud at bean counting faggots.
>>64881165The operation would be informed by GWOT era urban fighting doctrine, there would be at least 2 (probably 4) men for every room in every standing structure in the enemy camp (the raid on bin-laden's compound was a similar sized operation and involved at least 24 men on the ground), they clear it then demo the structures and some of the surrounding forest to make landing space and extract on the spot with any surviving VIP's/prisoners before QRF can mobilize, they would not have time to encounter the predator but hypothetically if the enemy AA cover was somehow not entirely destroyed and they lost all the choppers they would have an overwhelming number of bodies with personal radios and IR drone imaging to throw at it and would kill it with few losses.
>>64884471>get outnumbered, die>get ambushed, die>get unlucky, dieThat's the same way everybody else dies. If their constant deaths and failires totally don't count because muh complexities, what kind of contrived scenario would these superhumans need to show off their true power levels?
>>64881165Do Predators have anti-thermal cloaking/camo? Seems like they would.If they do, the team is fucked. Especially if we postulate how a real Predator would operate without the movie BS, but wvwn including their Warrior/Hunter ethics code.
>>64884750If it were the same sized force, yes, but modern special forces don't go around larping like MACV-SOG, they sent 5 chinooks after Maduro.
>>64884750Unclear as all interactions with them thus far have been the equivalent of rich kids going on a hunting trip for them. But even with that stipulation, as stated here>>64882621They are still still good enough to down a dedicated human military ship while rolling around in what was probably Daddy's Benz. We have no idea what their dedicated military gear looks like, for fuck's sake, they show up to fight xenomorphs half naked with spears and still body dozens of them single handedly.
>>64881165They die immediately like the first teamDutch's team are all ex-Nam veterans and have fought in jungles, modern specops are just glorified SWAT team doorkickers whose greatest claim to fame are bagging turd worlders
>>64884370The kommando nob?
>>64885501That's the one. Best dressed killteam by a wide margin.
>>64885752He even has a prosthetic arm, it really fits.
>>64884750once you leave the realm of mammals there's a lot of shit that can see in infrared or simply hunt by heat sense. it would make sense that predators have some form of counter measure
>>64881256>The End Of ViolenceFTFYhttps://youtu.be/h-T1ripGc-I
>>64881269>no counter for a 50 dollar quadcopter toyThe autotracking plasma caster that clearly can use thermals ought to make pretty short work of FPVs.
>>64881280>vampires would absolutely be secretly in charge of governmentsThey sort of are but they can't do it directly.The main way that vampires in WoD control humans directly is by feeding them vampire blood, which is addictive, grants strength, limited vampiric powers and prevents aging but causes them to obsessively love the vampire but fucks them up so they become deranged, like picrelThere's mind control but it either makes them zombie like or has other problems. Some can condition people to obey them which would work but that takes personal meetings to establish and renew it, which is risky when every other vampire wants to fuck with you and your minions.The best way for vampires to control governments is to just use money, for the most part. They're the power behind the throne.Surveillance state is only partially effective because reality conspires to prevent physical evidence of vampires, hence the camera thing. Why this happens has different explanations in different sourcebooks but both vampires and werewolves are subject to it.>>64884286>Yet they all act like the others don't exist or aren't importantAll the games are kind of meant to be stand-alone, they're not that balanced against each other so games based around super-friends with claws/fangs/magic don't work that well.The in-universe explanation is that each breed of supernatural is affected by the conspiracies that hide other supernaturals so mages are only vaguely aware that vampires are around and don't have much proof for the same reason humans don't, and so on. Every faction has their own reason for hiding but since they're all hiding, they're also all accidentally hiding from each other.>>64884219go back to >>>/pol/ ESL racewar shill
>>64884219/k/ has really gone downhill since the mods let the /pol/troons chase all the oldfags off.
>>64881269These days vampires do it out in the open and call you antisemitic if you notice.
>>64881256Yeah seriously. If the US gov. wanted the Predator dead, it would take them no time at all. Constant drone cameras that can easily keep up with it would suffice to shut down the invis. Perhaps EMP would fuck with the elecrical stuff. It also can clearly be harmed by gunfire, so just film it constantly and surround it with a few guys who are always aware of the location. Also>Ceaseless Watcher, turn your gaze upon this wretched thing.
>>64888323It wasn't taken down by gunfire in either of the movies. In the first Dutch killed it by slamming logs bigger than it into it, and in 2 Harrigan killed the LA hunter when he managed to get one of it's one weapons away from it.
>>64888812"If it bleeds, we can kill it"True not killed, but definitely can be harmed. I am pretty sure I used the word "harmed".
>>64887836Glownigger war tourist. Since you have so many resources at your disposal, can you let us know if Galaxy is in Uni now?
>>64881165Nah. It took Gary busey a decade to track it from south America to LA, and in the end it wasn't thermals or anything that gave it away, it was its body odor rendered through special cameras; indicating its cloak blocks heat as well. There wouldn't be anything your average modern SOF team would have that would give them an edge, especially if they had no foreknowledge, best they could hope for is to call in Jdams on every weird noise or suspicious movement. They might confuse it with thermal-blocking clothing, but we saw how long that works in predator 2 and would a SOF team deployed to an 85 degree jungle really even bring thermal camo?>muh dronesPredators used their own drones in the later movies, they know what a quadrotor is and probably would have countermeasures to bring if they felt the hunt warranted it.
