Why aren't ARs more popular for hunting? Is it just inertia and that they are seen as not being stylish? I get why older rifles weren't used. a Browning BAR, G3, FAL, M1 gararand, M14, Model 8, ect is going to be heavier and more expensive than a bolt action. But ARs are light and cheap
because before 350 legend it was illegal to hunt with ARs in a lot of states dues to straght-wall cartridge restrictions.
>>64881930>in a lot of statesin some states
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>>64881969Imagine being a lesbian, opening up a dating app, and seeing that
ARs aren’t light when you start bolting a bunch of shit onto them. Also I don’t want to be in the woods with a detachable magazine. They are also tasteless.
>>64881920>grabs Ar-15 SBR with bumpstock, thermal sight, 100 round drum mag, and laserIM FUCKING COMING FOR YOU BAMBI
>Spend enough on gun, ammo, lease, hunting license, camo to buy a dozen sides of beef>I hUnT tO fEeD mUh FaMiLy
>>64881984>ai slopkill yourself
>>64881972I know, it’s hilarious right? Dykes cannot escape the dick.
>>64881990>i DEMAND you spend half an hour making a throwaway meme!
>>64881920hunting regs vary, some states and even different parts of states have restrictions on requiring straight wall, requiring minimum bullet diameter, or even prohibit semi autos or mags over "x" rounds, plus the AR may not be as optimized for hunting depending on what youre huntingalso using them for hunting is gay and real AMERICAN chads use lever actions
>>64882031this but unironically
>>64881920Many different and constantly updating hunting regulations. Capacity limits, varied cartridge restrictions, semi-auto for hunting bans, etc. I believe that soon, blue states will try and ban detachable mags for hunting, forcing hunters to use fixed mags.>>64881930You can convert an AR-15 or AR-10 to shoot straight-wall cartridges (if that's the only problem in your state).>>64881972Trannies constantly bully lesbians for not accepting them. "Oh, she's a TERF; she's just a gold star fetishist.">>64881984Many hunters will buy a cheap firearm and use it for years. It pays off in the long run. In any state that isn't a desert, you can get away with just having a 12-gauge shotgun. The poor lads struggle to find good ranges, but they have it easy when hunting.
>>64882043>In any state that isn't a desert, you can get away with just having a 12-gauge shotgunThis. Every deer I’ve killed except for one has been with an 18 inch mossberg 500 loaded with 3 inch 00 buckt. Alabammy
>>64882043>I believe that soon, blue states will try and ban detachable mags for huntingthat would ban a LOT of bolt actions. almost all the new ones.
>>64882049>that would ban a LOT of bolt actions. almost all the new ones.Yes, the market would adapt; the same way that there are California-compliant ARs, there would be gun designs converted to have a compliant version for any state that would do that. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it never happens.
>>64881930I don't think that many states have straight walled laws.
>>64881972top fucking kek>>64881978Why would you have anything other than an optic and sling on a hunting AR? >lightlights are illegal when hunting in my state
>>64881984guns and camo are durable goods plus inflation
>>64881984Gun>Given to me at young ageAmmo>1 box every 5 years. Scopes’ mounted right apparentlyHunting license>Family’s property so not needed, if at friend’s place just say they shot the deer if anyone asks (they never do)Camo>Wear blue jeans, t-shirt and camo jacket that’s 15-years oldMan must it suck living in Europe
>>64881984>>64881990>>64882031oh god what the fuck is that gun?good morning, saar!>>64882035idk how many states have straight wall laws, I don't think it's many. but only like Pennsylvania and one other state, maybe nevada, has a semi auto law. it's one of the reasons the 760 was popular in PA and only PA
>>64882043Yeah they really found the cheat codeEither they manipulate women into dating them, or they get to play the victim
>>64882043>semi-auto for hunting banssee>>64882073
>>64882043>>64882049>>64882061>I believe that soon, blue states will try and ban detachable mags for hunting,Why? Why is that a problem that need banning?
>>64882073>idk how many states have straight wall laws,midwest, WI IL OH PA MI and maybe a few others my state requires you use a .35 cal or greater on deer, but DOESNT require straight wallmeaning i can hunt with 416 barrett but 30-30 is forbidden
>>64881930>in a lot of states
>>64882088>.35 cal or greater
>>64882067An AR with an optic still weighs more than most bolt action hunting rifles. Also there is a lot more caliber variety with bolt actions. I don’t want to be married to an AR magwell.
>>64882062NTA; All the former shotgun-only states became straight-wall only states>>64882073>idk how many states have straight wall laws, I don't think it's many. but only like Pennsylvania and one other state, maybe nevada, has a semi auto law. it's one of the reasons the 760 was popular in PA and only PAMichigan (southern part of the state), Ohio, Illinois, Iowa (in the past, fortunately they gained common sense and now allow bottleneck cartridges), Indiana (on public land only, you can use bottleneck cartridges in private land), Maryland (in some counties), Pennsylvania (on two counties only), etc.>>64882081>Why? Why is that a problem that need banning?Nowadays, the evil cunts banning/regulating guns aren't trying to solve problems; they are trying to harm the gun industry.>>64882078Delaware bans semi-autos for big game, and Pennsylvania bans them for all game (currently they are discussing eliminating this regulation). >>64882093NTA, it could be banned in one state, and that is one state too many.
>>64882067>lights are illegal when hunting in my statedoes this count as spotlighting?
>>64882088>>64882101.35 rem, the white man's cartridge
>>64882104do you not put an optic on your hunting rifle?>>64882123>NTA; All the former shotgun-only states became straight-wall only statesnot New Jersey. We still have shotgun only shit
>>64882177idk, the way the law is written you can't have anything that shoots artificial light on an animal. I think it's to ban nods or lasers or something
>>64882123>it could be banned in one stateMore likely the .223 rem (.22 cal) is banned more often than a bottleneck. .223 isn't ideal anyway when most shooters suck at marksmanship.
>>64881920>Why aren't ARs more popular for hunting?They're extremely popular for varminting. However, they're illegal for hunting big game in a significant chunk of the country because regulations are designed around the handicap of the lowest common denominator and the AR-15 runs afoul of basically all of them.>Straight-wall laws"I'm going out west one of these years so I'd better get some practice in with my .300 WM" *hits farmhouse in the next county">Minimum caliber/energy/bullet weight/bullet construction requirements"Yeeep, this 70gr pissin'-hot handload in my .30-06 should be just the thing for dem whitetails" *bullet delaminates*>.223 specifically being banned"No bro you don't understand my brother who was in the marines says that green tip is super deadly because it tumbles around inside the body and my AR pistol is super light and easy to carry">Mag restrictions"I never lose game; if it doesn't drop where it stands then I just dump the magazine at it"tl;dr we're not allowed to have nice things because of Bubba.
>>64882270.350 legend solves a lot of these issues
>>64882256>More likely the .223 rem (.22 cal) is banned more often than a bottleneck..223 Remington is a bottleneck cartridge. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. >.223 isn't ideal anyway when most shooters suck at marksmanship.If they suck at marksmanship, then no cartridge would help them (they'd miss).
>>64882337he's saying more states have minimum caliber requirements than have straight wall requirements
>>64881920Bolt actions are lighter and simpler. A lot of people like (or have to use) a full power cartridge, and an AR-10 is quite a bit heavier than an AR-15, and a lot more finicky.
>>64882346Oh okay, that is true. Still, the hunter is getting fucked either way.
>>64881920They are somewhat popular for hunting already. Part of .350LGN's idea and appeal was that it fits in AR15s, which works better for some game.However, many people just want more traditional hunting rifles for various reasons.>>64881930A few states have such laws, the vast majority don't.>>64881978I mean just don't fucking bolt on a bunch of shit like you're gonna kick doors in Iraq, you can leave things pretty bare.
>>64882354>Bolt actions are lighterif they are, its not by much.
>>64881930Stupid law too necked cartridges are banned but use my Ar pistol and im A okay!
>>64882088>30-30 is forbiddenWhat shithole state is this? Probably the most popular durr caliber of all time.
>>64882967One of those flat ones, they're scurred of stray boolits. Thus you see a lot more shotgun hunting there, also stuff like the Savage 220 slug rifle..350 Legend and .360 Buckbreaker were partially meant to give a good and roughly comparable rifle cartridge to those states.
>>64882031the effort that goes into making a shitpost is what makes it funny, not the shitpost itself
>>64881984hunting is a poor man's hobby in the US.walmart camo, walmart ammo. walmart rifle, wal mart hunting license ~$400
>>64881972The mirror version is happening to gay guys. Insane cunts are calling them misogynists for not liking pussy. Troon fatigue is skyrocketing
>>64883121yeah cool man how many boards are you on rn engaging in off topic culture war shit?
Bans on using caliber likely to wound deer and fuck up bag limits. Poor balistic performance, unless your AR was set up for it, at which point the cost becomes silly. None of the advantages of the AR platform really being relevent.Better options in battle rifles, at least historically. Better options in rifled shotguns, civilian pattern intermediates. Purely based on cost, for people who didn't have a dedicated hunting rifle. Lack of trust in the AR platform where hand loads and hot loads were concerned. While very reliable, the AR reviever and upper aren't necessarily strong.
>>64883339Ballistic performance will depend on what you hunt. Some people say .223 isn't enough for deer, but there's more to .223 than M855 Ball and 16" barrels, and there's more than one kind of deer.
>>64882967>>64882980yea .360 buckbreaker basically exists to fit in a lever action and comply with basically every state hunting law other than the shotgun only states
>>64883121there can't be that many reverse traps
>>64883476We break some bucks here on /k/ don’t we? Hurr hurr hurr
>>64883660its not gay if he looks like a doe
I’ve shot a deer with 5.56 just because I was borrowing my buddies rifle that day and was very unimpressed by the result to the point when I did buy an AR I got an SFAR in 308. I had mediocre results with a 6.5 bolt action as well. At this point I’m firmly in the 30 caliber camp when it comes to killing anything the size of an adult human and up.
>>64883611Oh you would be surprised.Just most of them are really bad at it.Also HRT makes them absolutely insane in a way that may rival even mtfs.See the first troon shooter for an excellent example. They were even a fujoshi lol
>>64884013I thought the tranny who wrote the tranifesto liked girls? the tranifesto has a bunch of pages seething about no qt brown gf
>>64882941pounds lighter than average AR-10s, so if you want to or have to use a full power cartridge, it makes a big difference.
>>64881920Unless you're hunting boar, why bother with a semiauto?
>>64884161bolts are for homosexuals
>>64884161NTA; honestly, most people want to hunt with what they already own; my brother-in-law still hunts with his 12-gauge shotgun in Pennsylvania despite the fact that he's now allowed a rifle because he just wants meat, not to have to collect half a dozen guns to partake in hunting. These silly and ever-changing restrictions force people who want to enter the hobby to have to buy a whole new gun. We need hunters now more than ever, but it's become a pain for someone to learn the ropes; boars are destroying tons of crops, and deer are rapidly expanding the desert.
>>64881920'Cause ARs are fucking lame and boring guns for fags.
>>64884171Aren't you tired of getting assblasted in every thread you post to, nogunz newfaggot?
>>64884184>use what they already haveRight exactly. If you already have a rifle for hunting, you probably arent in a hurry to go out and get an ar for the same. At the same time, someone with an ar is probably going to want to use it for hunting if they decide to get into it after the fact, but there are less opportunities for doing so and they basically all require buying another upper at the very least. At which point, you're likely to just buy a dedicated hunting rifle
>>64884211I own guns. 2 ARs, a pump and a lever gun. No bolt since I'm not gay, you faggot
>>64884234this guy sucks cock because he likes the taste, not because he's gay
>>64884254you are the only cocksucker in this thread, homo
>>64881984Most these days do it to feel like the tough rugged frontiersman they imagine themselves to be
>>64884234So you don't get tired of it, then?
>>64884256right you're a cockworshipper, of course.
>>64884298He's going to call you a yuro now and continue talking about cocks, falating cocks, and receiving cock
>>64884171>>64884234>>64884256Dude, could you not be so boring? This thread was about how awful certain hunting regulations are. Why are cocks and fags constantly on your mind? Stop thinking about them; they should be beneath you, and instead you are letting them live rent-free in your mind.
>>64881920.223 is too small for legally hunting deer in my state so I use .300 Blackout for bagging whitetail. I suspect this is basically the only reason 16” .300 blackout uppers are sold. I’ve considered picking up a boltgun but for now my AR and shotgun are enough for what I need, which is mostly home defense and sometimes the odd hunting trip
>>64884296tired of what>>64884450the homo started it. I didn't start it
>>64884298>>64884301Don't you have some no gunz threads about boats or planes to go jerk off in, no gunz thirdie cocksucker?>>64884270>t. no hunts
>>64884679Are you 5 years old? He feels semi-autos are unnecessary for hunting (technically true; people are out there hunting with muzzleloaders, break actions, bows, and crossbows). At no point had he insulted you; there was no reason for the shit-flinging.
>>64884802I was giving a reason on why someone would use an AR, lever gun, falling block, rolling block, or peabody/martini action over a bolt action
Fudds fear the AR
fudds
chuds
>>64889352faggot
>>64881920What? The AR platform is wildly popular for hunting. Remington was selling them in woodland and mossy oak a few years back. Probably still do. 5.56/223 is pretty minimalist for deer. Definitely leaves you wanting on the long angles and through bone. The BAR is a popular hunting rifle as well. You do know there is a civilian version still used today. The G3 and FAL aren't very popular for hunting for obvious reasons. The Garand has been used for years hunting. As has the M1a/m14. You started with a false premise. People have and will hunt with anything they like. Most people now just drive an atv to a stand and sit in a tree waiting for a deer to come and eat a crop or bait. You could hunt with a punt gun and it wouldn't matter.
>>64889396> You do know there is a civilian version still used today.Nobody hunts with the Ohio Ordinance one (though it’d be based if they did) and the rifle that Browning sells as the BARis not in any way shape or form an actual BAR
>>64882244why would I? it's got iron sights on it
>>64889418so why are you comparting an AR with an optic to a bolt action with no optic?
>>64889396>You do know there is a civilian version still used today.the browning BAR literally has nothing to do with the 1918 browning automatic rifle. They only share a name for marketing purposes and because brownings grandson or great grandson helped design it and because the first model came out before FN rat fucked Browning's son or Grandson out of ownership of the Browning company. Not that Browning really made anything. That company was basically just a brand name that got guns and other items from FN and other subcontractors and put the browning name on itI'm gunna assume you were talking out of your ass for the entire post since you think the browning BAR is related to the 1918. hell, it didn't even come out until 1966
>>64881984No one who isn't poor's time is worth the man hours in harvesting venison. I'm glad my friend likes to shoot, he can freeze his ass out there, gut, and clean it.
>>64881920Because it's flimsy and gay, like you, gas sniffer.