What's /k/'s verdict on the Felon?
>>64884488Standard 4th gen, probably worse than Gripen
>>64884488Vaporware/rugpull scam for thirdies
>>64884488I legitimately like how it looks. Yes I know it's dogshit but fuck you, I'm allowed to like bad things like the Felon and the Flogger because that's freedom
>>648844904++
>>64884525Well it's Russian built so it's more like 4-
>>64884490More like 3rd gen +
>>64884488Really fun in AC7
>>64884525What's the ++
Gay and retarded pretend stealth less-ugly flanker
>>64884593To indicate how HIV positive it is, double plus means even sharing the same air as it will give you HIV
>>64884488>India doesn't have it>Iran doesn't have it>It's debatable of even Algeria has it despite showing off just 1 of the airframe and nothing elseEvaporate for anyone other than Russia
>>64884488The fighter of russia's yesterday's tomorrow, finally here after significant delay.
>>64884488>be a thirdy brownoid muslim (India, algeria and others)>watch in live 4K the destruction of the russian military >completely unable to produce anything other than refurbished USSR shit and spamming glide bombs and cruise missiles>watch all their wunderwaffe like the S400 being mogged by cardboard drones >their navy being kept at bay by fucking jet skis >the government realised how shit they are so T14 and SU-57 are kept in hangars to keep the illusion >decide to order anyway god it must be hard to be a brownoid
>>64884488>sensor fusion>6 radars 2 for stealth>dircm>flies really smooth now so they probably really improved the fly by wire>sovl looks>will have stealth engines soon>aesa>no rivets on the production models
>>648850032020>RUSSIA WILL DEFEAT NATO2026>Russia might defeat Ukraine if you stopped giving them equipmentFucking pathetic country
>>64884520Agree. Love the way it looks. It is without a doubt an inferior product to basically every competitor but it looks badass.
>>64884488Best Russian plane, which is like the smartest retard.
>>64884593HIV + and DFBC + (diarrhea filled brain cavity)
>>64885044>2020>>RUSSIA WILL DEFEAT NATO>2026>>Russia might defeat Ukraine if you stopped giving them equipment>Fucking pathetic country
>>64885003hahahahahah, brother your army was obliterated by Ukraine on day 1. You were supposed to win in a week lmao, you turned it into attrition warfare instead of giving up and accepting the total incompetence of your command chain and now you are crying because the US and Europe are taking the opportunity (you) offered them to make you lose all your equipment. Ukrainian intel was even able to remove a good portion of your strategic bombers and kamikaze bomb the fucking Kremlin, you know, where all the good AD is supposed to be. What about you snowniggers learn from the past for once. Even fucking china is above you now
>>64885003lol, next time try to do the same with Venezuela and maybe trap the US into another 10 years war ? What ? You can't into wooden pallets ? Logistics is too hard ? Ahhh my bad, continue coping ITT then
>>64885003>stop supporting people who want freedom, independence, and to claw their way out of centuries of humiliation to be better peopleMy man you just don't understand America.
>>64884488clearly the best option if you could choose
>>64884997Yeah they've been hard at work iterating with the resources they have free, it's a decentish attempt at a 5th gen. If they work out their kinks with regards to mass production, I do reckon we'll see a lot more Sukhois than Chengdus or Shenyangs around the world, since I do expect their per unit costs and operating costs to be relatively lower than the other 5th gens around the world, barring maybe Indian AMCA when it comes around but I do expect it to end up costing the same as an F-35 initially did, since the design is relatively similar due to convergence of physics
>>64885215Is this the HIMARS wheel meme but planes? Kek
>>64885244Russians can't even produce Su-35s. What makes you think they'll be able to mass produce Su-57s?
>>64885286Bad faith argument but I'll bite the bait.Anon, do you really think fighter jets are legos that can be sharted out using injection moulding? Mass production of jets for an air force doesn't mean 3000 black jets of Allah. ~110 odd jets is a pretty respectable amount for an air force that's not in it's best days as the economy and industry supporting it has been reeling back.I said it previously, with whatever resources the Russian state has left, the Su-57 and even the Su-35 are good attempts at addressing their shortfalls.PS: If you want to argue in bad faith Fella, I think we're done here then, Slava Ukraini or whatever, go on your merry way.
>>64885283yes that was my intention
>>64884801>debatable if even Algeria Not anymore, it was clearly spotted over Algerian airspace 1-2 weeks ago
>>64885331thats what I was referring to
The price on those aint right. Something is horribly wrong with the plane for it to be so cheap given its size and claimed equipment. I'm not saying the SU-57 isn't real, just that you get wyat you pay for.
>>64885367Have you considered that f35 customers are the ones getting fleeced and upselled?
>>64885431>are you aware that every human being has the capacity to be a piece of shitQuite.Two quick comments.Pelosi visit.Maduro.One slightly longer comment.Ukrainians have been fighting russia with a combination of 1980s-era materiel and modern drones.
>>64885367A lot of the price of anything advanced comes down to the electronics in it, and that is a field Russia is generously a decade plus behind the curve on. F-35 on the other hand has the most advanced, and therefore expensive, set of electronics and sensors ever mounted to a fighter aircraft.
Are they still using Phillips screws?
>>64884488That NATO should stop giving cool codenames to actual, crapAt least name it M*whatever* if you really want to change the name.
>>64885449what? speak English zooropean
>>64884488Idk. Pretty garbage 2nd term IMO.
>>64885484
>>64885244I do expect some people in white coveralls and hats to put you in a straitjacket soon.For your protection
>>64884997>2 for stealththey won't be able to actually detect stealth aircraft with them, so why are they for stealth?
>>64884520Yeah that works for a car... like if You just love ford falcons and all you can get is a falcon on a Torino frame in a kit but it looks normal... well fuck you no it's not authentic.Where is your ford falcon?
>>64885298>random seething about ukraine the moment his delusional perception on the 4th gen SU-57 is challenged in any waykek.
>>64885629and just because it's a kit doesn't mean it shouldn't be a Falcon in shows. Nobody can tell from 3 feet away unless you get under it. It's not like there are any to compete with it. I really get fucking upset about car shows hating kits.
>>64885215No way this isnt satire
I like the way it looks and I think it's cool that there is another alternative to the common western equipment, I'm a moderate TZD advocate, but I still like Russian gear and seeing it in other countries too.And I unironically wonder how it compares to say a Rafale or Typhoon or Super Hornet; sure it likely can't compete with an F-35 or F-22, but what about 4th / 4.5th gen western fighters?And how does it likely compare to Chinese J-20 / J-35?It's likely India will buy Su-57, and it's likely Pakistan will buy J-35, so we might see stealth fighter engagements between those two in some years.
>>64884832They need to have a better army than their neighbor Mooroco, or else they they will no longer be able to claim a desert with no resources. Please understand
>>64885153Agreed, ziggers and nu/pol/ are huffing the copium ever harder nowadays.
>>64885668It's common knowledge that Algeria is populated with the most aggressive breed of Arabs so that doesn't shock me kek
Russia has less than 50 SU-57's in service, and US 6th gen is around the corner.It took them 20 years to catch up, only to be left behind again...
>>64884488a plane so bad and outdated that india pulled out their funding and dropped from the project when they saw it
>>64885298>instant off-topic seething about ukraineWhy are you subhumans ALWAYS like this? In every single thread kek. I'm starting to worry that all of the resident ziggers on the board have been left emotionally and mentally disturbed by the years-long 3 day war.
>>64885644>It's likely India will buy Su-57They were supposed to joint develop it until the Russians refused to give them access to the specific technologies in it.Oh, and India got to test the early prototypes and thought they were shit(they were but Russia improved a lot over the years)
>>64884593it's got, uhFox-2 internal bays
>>64885153where's the front line these days
>>64885644India just committed to buying 114 Rafale on top of their existing purchases, so I think that any plans for the SU-57 have been binned.
>>64885298>FellaKek, those gay as dog avatars are still living rent-free in your head?
>>64884490Turd Gen aircraft.
>>64887995Probably right next to perfidious Albion.
