hello, I am a teen in the us who feels unsafe in the current US. and I would like to ask if I could get help making my own armor?
so long as you are 18 or 19 we may be of some assistance. if you are below that age you'll need to find somewhere else to ask. what particular threats are you hoping to protect against?
>>64886137Urban youth.
>>64886153Start collecting plastic milk jugs.
Just cut the shit and buy a cheap carrier and a pair of Protech 2120-5s from Hudsongunner, boom there you go less than $250 and you have veritable M855A1 + M80 protection for under 13lb.>>64886182Will lose to M855, therefore irrelevant to >>64886153.
>>64886186If the threat is urban youth, why are you gravitating towards a combat larp?
>>64886186M855 is overhyped and unless you're covering a good chunk of your body you'll be fucked up at ranges M855 is going to rip through a thick HDPE plate if that round goes anywhere but your plate. Also this is a literal teenager talking about other private teenage threats not the teenagers with government funding.
>>64886153>>64886186these are $4 right now, 7"x4.5 you could whip up a cheap lvl3 brigantine. very low chance of running into someone shooting green tip out of a rifle length barrel at you, it'll stop any handgun round you're likely to find on the streets, and most rifle and shotgun threats, knives, fists. just watch for joints and unarmored areas. https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/italian-military-surplus-neck-protector-with-kevlar-used?a=2343977
>>64886191Because they're rolling ARPs and Dracos and AR12s that will collectively give IIIA a hard time. IIIA will stop shotguns (AR12s) but the backface deformation with slugs will be ugly. NIJ's 44mm standard only measures whether a round will likely pose lethal injury as tested against goats ij the 1970s.>M855 is overhypedIt's under forty cents a shot and can be bought anywhere. It is extremely popular on social media as ARP ammo.>>64886215Sorry, M855 is super common now. I use two of these as neck armor. They aren't good for 7.62x39 mild steel core and therefore M855 will fuck them up even at lower velocity, such as out of an ARP. However, they will handle 55gr and basic lead core threats fine so they do what they do.M855A1 protection, which you should have even just as headroom, is doable at affordable less than overt thickness using Hesco T212s but you lose .308 protection doing that, which is unacceptable if you're traveling rural.
>>64886248>on Social mediaIgnored.
>>64886153A sandwich board that says NOW HIRING
>>64886248well then he'll need to glue some tiles on there, but this has quickly devolved into bag autism so the only option is $800 of rifle plates.
>>64886248> Because they're rolling ARPs and Dracos and AR12s that will collectively give IIIA a hard timeThey aren’t.
>>64886269>wwaaagh they aren't!It's not 1997 anymore gramps.>>64886260Cope harder.>>64886268Strawman. Pair of used 2120-5s or Hesco 3611Cs is under $250. Pair of Protech 2230s that stop anything below tungsten core 7.62 is under $400. Guys, this is elementary shit.
>>64886279> It's not 1997 anymore grampsYou’re right,They’re using Glocks with the switch and stendos instead of tec-9’s. But they aren’t actually using rifles for anything other than flexing on the ‘gram. Or Tiktok. Or worldstar. Or wherever the nogs flock together.
>>64886286So you're relying on the assumption they are blocked by divine ordnance from ever using their instagram guns in hypothetical situations where the ROL is so far gone that it is justified to daily drive homemade body armor. You expect them to hold back, in other words, and guns that will easily defeat your armor will just sit there on the dining room table even though they are readily usable for drive by attacks, hits, dude rolling up on a bike, etc, and are not really that much more overt than a stendo glock.I don't quite get this cope. Some of you people are just allergic to plates.
>>64886286>Or worldstarWhat is this wizardry you speaketh of?
Hey buddy, instead of getting the fanciest plates why not talk to your neighbors for once? This larp fantasy you have is disjointed and weird.
>>64886331>the fanciest platesinsulin my brother. I'm talking the cheapest plates around which aren't shit.
>>64886319If you want to call genetics divine ordinance then that's keeping you up at night, not me.
>>64886335...Which happen to be what 600 bucks?
>>64886248.50bmg ap is around, i have a can of it, so by your thinking the plates you suggest are useless. rarely is anyone going around day to day with rifle plates anyway.
>>64886279Those prices are very optimistic for 2026 and buying used armor online is gambling. Those plates you listed are well over 800 bucks new.
>>64886424Try $275 for good III+ or under $400 for Protech 2230s that stop everything under the sun which isn't tungsten core or .50 cal. Pic rel has some options.>>64886431The average dude in the hood is not rolling a .50 caliber rifle, even though that would be based. The cost of entry for an ARP is a fraction of a .50 cal, so the former has proliferated vastly more. Also, I'd like to see someone do a driveby with a .50 bolt action upper gun. Hearing damage in the car would be... atomic.>>64886434The 3611Cs go for like $300 a set if you catch the police trade-ins.>buying used armor online is gamblingSo is buying armor from Highcom or select models from RMA (respectively 4SAS4 / 4S16 and 1165) new because they're omitting drop protection and the mailman treats armor like shit. People were getting 4SAS4s back in the day which failed tap and torque out of the box.These are properly NIJ 0101.06-certified plates that while used, incorporate the necessary protection so a drop won't kill them.
>>64886319Not arguing against plates but do you know why the gun is held sideways during drive-bys?If so then you know why pistols are used for urban youth shenanigans.
>>64886431faggolas the unwashed
>>64886484Well there's a bunch of different reasons. Flash sight picture, trying to evade shell casings going into the car, looking cool, imitating hollywood, other ergonomic reasons, etc.An ARP can be stuck out the window. With an FRT and a 60 round schmeisser it can do a lot more banging than a ladder.
>>64886095>I am a teenreported
>>64886319> So you're relying on the assumption they are blocked by divine ordnanceNo, I’m relying on the fact that they wouldn’t. Because they don’t. Because you can’t stick an AR down your pants.
>>64886563>Because you can’t stick an AR down your pants.You don't even know they wear baggy pants that are two sizes too big. Heresy.
>>64886517*Can* be stuck out a window. Whether it's a good idea when speed is the name of the game is another.
>>64886576Real easy dude, just strap the heater to your arm using a brace.
>>64886579If your plan is to have the gun out the whole time then sureUsually the aim is to perform the drive by then tuck your heat away ASAP while getting the fuck outImagine having to fumble with an ARP and muh strap all the meanwhile, lol
>>64886095Buy a roll of uhmwpe and iron/glue them together
>>64886596You're thinking too logically. They're signing up to do 20 years probably because the guy they're hitting creamed his corn with a girl or something.They aren't going to care about hiding the heater, they'll hang it out the window proudly as a metaphor for their 9" dick.
>>64886563have you ever seen these actual niggas????? they have about 3 ARs worth of empty space in their massive fucking pants, also they just keep them in the car
>>64886620They unironically could fit an M16 down their pants. Meanwhile we got people copeing like bitches that 9mm protection is good enuff.We are in the dystopian cyberpunk future. No it's not cool like Cyberpunk 2077.
>>64886548Replying to a thread announcing that you've reported it is also a rule violation. Besides as I keep telling my wife there are legal teens.
>>64886873>Besides as I keep telling my wife there are legal teens.You want a 3-way, don't you?
>>64886934melody marks and/or bust. she said no i'd finish too quickly.
Why is it that so many lvl III plates are more expensive than lvl IV?
>>64887025Because they use UHMWPE as a backer material and not fiberglass. This is due to Level III plates needing more multi hit, less weight, and not needing as much ceramic because they aren't facing serious AP. Six 7.62x51mm M80 versus one .30-06 M2AP. IVs often fail the III test. The Hesco 4403 for example is only good for three. Alumina ceramic and fiberglass backing are cheap, and that's why entry level, heavyweight IVs are cheap.You can buy III/IV dual rated plates.
>>64886976>finish too quicklyThis is what toys are for.
>>64887405the video where she teaches her stepbro how to use his peener for prom makes me buuuh
>>64886576>>64886579>>64886596>>64886611Use a keychain to link both the trigger guard and a chain necklace. There. Easy.
>>64886153If you're talking for everyday use, they're probably not going to shoot you since that usually draws too much attention on a relatively normal day. You're more likely to get punched from a direction you're not looking in, and helmets won't help because no one is going to respect you if you're caught wearing one of those on a relatively normal day. You can get stainless steel chainmail that provides decent* protection from knives without affecting how you look too terribly, provided you cover it all in clothes. You can also put some kind of padding under it to help it out or double up on the layers of chainmail, but the more you add the weirder you look, which is more important 99.9% of the time. There's also that Japanese steel hexagon vest thing that I don't know what it's called, but that will work about as well if not better and it doesn't even look like armor to most people. You'll cover yourself about as well as you can without looking too strange with chainmail over a Level III soft armor vest. Just remember that if you're wearing contemporary armor and you do get into a fight police and the courts will assume you were looking for trouble unless you can provide compelling evidence that you weren't the initial aggressor. The the other posts in this thread are more applicable to a general state of chaos where you can claim you're just doing it until all these people over here chill out. *can keep a knife from reaching your organs
