https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2juYMbYc0Is Bubba a good man or an evil man?
They are products of the time. As are the rifles. If i bought a surplus gun for the equivalent of <$100 and it didn't suit my needs, i wouldn't feel bad about butchering it.
>>64886953Period sportirised rifles are great as they save you having to butcher survivors of sportirisation.
>>64886953bubba is merely a man
>>64886953There is nothing wrong with sporterizing a historical rifle.The future does not care for (You) or anyone.You either aim for the future and remain competitive or disappear.Your historical weapons belong in the "disappear" category.
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Milsurp autists hate sporterization because they don't shoot. They buy guns to look at, fidget with, and show their friends. There's nothing wrong with that at all, but anyone who shoots would take a well-done sporter over a stock shitrod any day.
There is a difference between a sporterized rifle and a bubba'd rifle. Cutting the stock down, adding better sights/scope, accuracy mods is sporterizing. While it will devalue the rifle to some extent, most mods are reversible. Popcorn welding a chink red dot, adding a .50bmg style muzzle device, hacking up a rifle butt stock to make a pistol grip is bubba. Bubba turns rifles into scrap metal, or at best a parts gun. Pic related is my grandfather's Enfield no5. Sporterized back in the 50's when the rifle probably cost $30
>>64887176>when the rifle probably cost $30>and $30 was worth $150 in Biden bux
Milsurp safari rifles are the best safari rifles.Not a fan of sporterized rifles that still use the same cartridge though. If we're already cutting the rifle up anyways, why not rechamber it for something cool?
>>64886984This is pretty sweet honestly and at least looks like some care went into the bubbaing
>>64887243Compared to a new hunting rifle that cost 2-3x more at the time.
>>64887266>If we're already cutting the rifle up anyways, why not rechamber it for something cool?if you're just hunting durr most milsurp rifles will have good ammo availability in their original chambering and will be able to take out a durr
>>6488717390% of sporteriztions that happened with historically interesting and perfectly fine shooting milsurp guns were farm boy hackjobs in the 50s that added 0 additional functionality to the gun other than "making it lighter."A well done sporterization is fine but the vast majority are not well done which is why milsurp collectors ree over them so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWYKDETz1iA
>>64886953>>64887176>>64887266>>64887706Why spend all that money updating an old rifle when you can get a new one? I don’t get it. A nice sporter has got to be like just as much as a good quality modern bolt gun. I mean the receivers on these guns are like 100 years old. Sure you can rebarrel them, even rechamber them but how long until the bold head shears off or receiver cracks? Yeah I know some people want these guns to be in their families for a long time but wouldn’t a fancy new rifle make just as good a heirloom rifle in another 100? How do you know your great grandkids are even going to want to shoot a 200 year old action? What if nobody but select hobbiest are making .303 British and .30-06. It would be like kid today inheriting a sporterized 1869 vetterli. Yeah he might enjoy it, might even shoot it a couple of times, but overall it still ends up as a novelty item. He’d probably enjoy shooting the 1903 Springfield or 1945 Lee-Enfild more because it’s more accessible. Same thing for kids in 2126, Timmy might enjoy shooting your CZ 600 in .308 more than your Sporterized Lee-Enfield because there’s still lots of that old .308 still around and only a handful of autist are still making .303 British.
>>64887764>Why spend all that money updating an old rifle when you can get a new one?idk about foreign markets, but rifles weren't popular on the US market until WWI. Something like 95-98% of all rolling blocks sold we military style guns. if you exclude russian contract guns, which made up like 2/3rds or 3/4ths of winchester 1895 production the henry rifle, 1866 winchester, 1876 winchester, 1885 winchester, 1886 winchester and 1895 winchester all sold less than 200k or less than 300k rifles each. The surplus rifles on the market were way cheaper than any factory guns at the time and most sporter jobs were the guy who bought the rifle for like $10 cutting it down himself or having someone else cut it down for cheap. idk why the nice ones exist. Like idk if the guy in OP made it himself or if he paid for a nice gun. at that point a factory gun would have made more sense
Some Bubba'd rifles are sexy because they have a utilitarian, Americana charm (or the same thing but from whatever nation) AND display good workmanship.Most Bubbas are just full retard though.
>>64889157Why did he weld a bar of steel to the gun? to use as a barrel wrench?
>>64889167Yeah, looks like it. But he welded on the receiver ring so god knows what that'll do to the heat-treatment/integrity of the receiver when he threads a new barrel in a test fires it.
>>64889157>drops into plastic sporter stockRARE $499 I know what I got
>>64888332>idk why the nice ones exist>at that point a factory gun makes more senseYou have a gun you took back from The WarYou've had it for a couple decades and you love it. You're tired of how the stock warps on foggy days and throws rounds two MOA to the left, though, and she's a heavy bastard. Then part of the stock finally cracks, or you just get a nice bonus check before hunting season, and you decide to finally take the plunge. Time to call an actually competent gunsmith in town to gussy up your girl and bed the barrel better. At that point it's not about whether or not you're "saving money". The rifle was free or you bought it 20 years ago, and getting a really nice sporter job costs a quarter of buying a new gun while preserving your emotional attachment to your rifle. Another big source of sporters is guns that got duffle-cut to bring home. Duffles look ugly, tend to break or warp, and if you already need a gunsmith to put it back together anyway then why not clean it up and make it pretty?Also, you're ignoring the fact that most families realistically only owned a couple of guns until very recently. You generally had a pistol or shotgun for home defense, the outdoorsy kids got a smallbore for innawoods and small game, and then whatever the meat rifle was if the family hunted deer. Most farmers had a cheap .22 or a handgun for dispatching livestock and pest control as well. I grew up on a working farm in the 80s, we had >sporterized, cut-down 30-06 K98Durrgun we got at an estate sale>Trashed department store Mauser .22 with a broken feed ramp and extractor so it was effectively single-shotThis was the pest/stunning gun and what I learned to shoot with>A nice little Marlin magazine .22 Dad bought it after we had a pack of feral dogs hit the property and we couldn't kill them fast enough>1917 EnfieldDad paid $100 for a sporter and reloading setup from a friend who'd just got a nice factory rifle. Fell in love and passed on the K98.
>>64889485Good post. There’s less excuses for bubbaing today, but what looks like a dumb choice now could have been a practical choice when it was actually done.
