why is the UK already replacing their Brimstones with the JAGM?
Are they.
They're notJAGM is only being bought for AH-64E because Boeing was pressured to block Brimstone integration on Apache because it will harm JAGM exportsJAGM isn't going to be used by the UK on any fixed-wing or ground-based platform. Only Apache, which will probably be retired early and replaced by drones anyway, because attack helicopters are a dead-end capability
>>64888334Damn, so Brimstone is now confirmed to be so good that it made Boeing freak out and get pissy.
Trump made them do it
>>64888334and tanks are dead endand carriers are dead endand APCs are dead endand guns are dead end...
>>64888334UK is buying 3000 JAGMs...
>>64888334UK Apaches have been using Brimstone since 2015.
>>64888712The UK also bought a bunch of new AH-64Es which are set up stock to use the JAGM while Brimstone would require integration, so it is the cheaper option. They may yet get it in future but for now that's what they have.
Brimstone seems really cool with the autonomous target selection stuff, have Ukraine got much out of it with their land-based version? I wonder if both sides using similar gear and turtle-tank silhouette has limited the impact.
>>64888730>have Ukraine got much out of it with their land-based version?They keep getting sent more of them so it can be assumed they are firing them at something and so need replacing and that they are effective enough at it for them to keep wanting more over other systems.
>>64888712The UK has approval for 3000 through the service life of the AH-64E via FMS. So far they have only bought 160.>>64888718No they haven'tMBDA did Brimstone firing trials on a Boeing-operated AH-64E in 2015, but the missile wasn't fully integrated with the aircraft's systems - For example the aircrew had no ability to select the missile's flight profile or seeker and fuse mode in flight.No Brimstones were ever fired from a WAH-64D Apache Mk.1, which is what Britain operated from 2000 to 2020During procurement of the AH-64E, Britain wanted to integrate Brimstone on their AH-64Es, but it was too expensive - Boeing quoted an integration cost that was £120 million more than the combined budget for buying JAGM, Hydra/APKWS and future purchases of Hellfire and 30mm ammunition through FMS.As such, the UK isn't going to use Brimstone on AH-64E either
