If you really want that gun then you'll learn to deal with .380. Otherwise the gun's barely smaller than micro 9s like the P365 so there's other options.

>>64894624
Youre free to get a 9mm pistol that sma- oh nvm. Sig v crowns and the 99 grain federal bullets are both good

>>64894643
9mms do exist that are about the same size.

>>64894624
Grab the S&W EZ shield so that when you are super old and have arthritis, you can still shoot.

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>>64894647
Same height, same length, find one with the same width though. P365 is wider by a good amount, that said though i prefer the LCP max which is slightly smaller than the bodyguard anyway

i've kinda just gone back to the glock 26 after trying a lot of shit. it works with my 19 mags and shoots pretty good.

i have a g42 in my right front pocket and i'm wearing girl jeans.

380 isn't great, but I sure like my pocketsand.

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>>64894629
>barely smaller than micro 9s
Wrong.
BG2.0 is significantly smaller than subcompact and micro 9 mms

>>64894664
>>64894993
>1 inch vs 0.8 inches width with almost the same dimensions otherwise.
A good deep concealment holster like the Enigma or just having some kind of proper setup that allows for an IWB setup that's concealed but accessible will negate most benefits from having the slimmest of the slim guns unless you work in an office where they require tucked in button up shirts.

>>64894624
If a .380 isn't pocket size then it's just a girl gun. S&W is pulling some BS here, they know we want that gun in pocket size but released the first iteration in a retarded size. When idiots cave and get that model, and sales eventually slow down, they'll release the acceptable size model and the idiots will buy that too. Don't fall for it, a .380 waistband gun is absolutely retarded unless you're a weak woman.

You could stuff that one in your pocket if you're fat but it'll still be obvious, so not really deep concealment and not really taking advantage of the small frames .380 can have. I can fit a p365 in my pocket but it's extremely obvious.

>>64895191
What is a pocket sized handgun if not the p365 or the bodyguard? Ive never owned a gun that small but I would like one with a half decent capacity and reliable. The only thing that seems to be reliable at such small sizes are those tiny revolvers, but at that point I feel like I'd give up too much compared to my m&p.

>>64895182
>nitpicking
It's smaller and much lighter. And a better design than the P365

>>64895182
>IWB
Yes i agree, however for pocket carry the p365 is utterly mogged and the convenience of pocket carry cannot be understated. For IWB no point going as small as a p365 imo when you can just as effectively cram something much bigger in

>>64895191
>>64895182

i am so tired of feelsposters on /k/ saying dumb shit based off of zero practical experience.

>>64895269
Post your bodyguard.

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>>64895272
i don't have one. i've fired my friend's tho. i CC a baby browning because sometimes i dont want to wear a holster.

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>>64894624
If it's good enough for Franz Ferdinand it's good enough for me.

>>64895191
>a .380 waistband gun is absolutely retarded unless you're a weak woman.
>you MUST put a pocket sized handgun in your pocket
what kind if fudfaggotry is this? Yeah bro lemme shove my handgun into my deep ass cargo pocket

>>64895276
So youre a feelsposter saying dumb shit gotcha.

>>64894682
i always lean towards getting a Glock 26 because of it taking pretty much any 9mm Glock mag. Flush fit mag for carry and a extended grip mag for any other shooting. It's unfortunate how fat the 26 is but damn is it small in height and length

>>64894624
to me the BG 2.0 is the current best pocket semi-auto so if you specifically want that as an option. If you want 9mm then just go DB9, Shield, Hellcat, 43, etc. don't even consider .380 if you're gonna be whining about it being weaker than 9mm. As for me I don't care; ten rounds of .380 will absolutely btfo someone let alone five or six rounds

>>64897114
The width is the only real problem with the 26. Everything else is dialed in.

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>>64895191
But this is the second bodyguard model...
And it's even slightly larger lol on top of being almost an entirely different gun.

Going smaller would be getting into a look how hard I can piss showdown with the ruger LCP and it doesn't seem like that's worked out well for anyone that's tried.
Even kel tec gave up and they were there first.

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bg 2.0 is great
in the pocket it looks like you have shit in your pocket but it doesn't scream gun especially with a pocket holster
but what really makes it great is how well it shoots at such a small size, most .380 pocket pistols have shitty ergos and micro 9s are jumpy as hell
shooting the bg 2.0 with it's .380 and good ergos feels like shooting a full sized 9mm

>>64897338
If I could direct mount an optic Id be sold but even the EPS carry sticks over the sides of a 365 so I dont know if its practical or even possible. Ive shot plenty of small guns and theyre all kinda ass for me to shoot accurately past 25 feet without an optic.

>>64897348
no, slide is too small you're not getting an optic on it
could probably get a laser

>>64897348
for a gun like this the slide is way too fuckin small for an optic lmao you dont need it

>>64897348
your only realistic option is the viridian green dot made specifically to match the bg2 slide. mounting plate replaces the rear sight so feasibility depends on how much you trust that thing with no backup

>>64897355
>>64897361
>>64898747
Maybe in another 5-10 years we'll have some red dots capable, I'd settle for a laser grip I guess but I can point shoot usually okay with these smaller guns its just getting accurate shots after 25-30ish feet that I struggle with due to the short barrel combined with 20+ moa front sights.

>>64894719
faggot

>>64897338
>feels like shooting a full sized
This is the integral genius of S&W's Bodyguard 2.0. Designed and engineered a micro(/pocket) pistol that most people can get a near-full handgrip on, and has a manual of arms akin to a subcompact/compact semiauto. Honey I shrunk the Shield achieved perfectly.

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Bersa :)

>>64898812
With how small an optic would have to be in order to fit on a bodyguard you hardly have any optics window left.

>>64894624
9mm isn't even that "great" in the grand scheme of things, especially with gimped short barrel velocities. literally the same bullet diameter so the sme bullet technology will transfer over for the most part. anything you hit with 380 will do 9mm type damage. shot placement is everything with 9mm as is, how many times have you seen criminals tank mag dumps froma glock 17?
>>64894629
it's significantly thinner, the most innovative part about it. it's the next evolution since stack and a half hellcat/365 sized guns.

>>64900265
.380 is notorious for either ice picking or deflecting/failing to penetrate enough and its more expensive.

>>64900270
> ice picking
> low penetration
pick one. but anyways, things like hsts do the same thing regardless of caliber, just a matter of how wide they open up.a 9mm will open up easier, but it's not night and day

>>64900298
Pick one depending on the ammo you mean. You realize theres more than one right?

Lcp2 gang, lcp max is pigfat double stack

>>64900300
yeah but lets be real here, there are like 2 mainstream hollowpoints most people use these days.

>>64894624
.380 IMO is great, at-least where I’m at I believe it’s cheaper by the carton than 9 and with the smaller-ish form factor the kick should be around the same so you aren’t missing much aside from pen. power but if you are in a situation to use that in self-defense it shouldn’t be any problem

>>64899608
Bersa’s are awesome

>>64900265
>it's significantly thinner,
how is it thinner if the bullet is the same caliber?

>>64900964
what? The 365 is in 9mm and is thicker than the BG 2.0 which is in .380

>>64901026
.380 and .9mm are the same caliber. the bullets are the same size, the only difference is the case length and therefore powder capacity and pressure. so why would a .380 be thinner?

>>64901072
.380 allows for a thin slide with less mass

>>64901072
I thought the projectiles were slightly off in size similar to .357 mag vs 9mm, and .380 is straight walled while 9mm is slightly tapered

>>64901091
wiki says they are both 0.355
>>64901082
that makes sense

>>64897303
>piss showdown with the ruger LCP
Went fine for Kel Tec, the company that Ruger was trying to copy with the LCP.