I genuinely did not believe it would last this long guys.What are your honest thoughts on the war? How much longer do you thing it will go on? How do you think it will end? What do you think will be the final dramatic act?
>What are your honest thoughts on the war?russia is more retarded than I thought before 2022>How much longer do you thing it will go on?2 years ish, hopefully longer for more dead ruskies>How do you think it will end?Russia moving the goalposts to what they have at the time, claim that was the original goal all along and then trying to act smug about it>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Either an attempted naval invasion of odesa or the death of a very high ranking russian directly close to putin or putin himself
>>64899401>t. Neo-India
>>64899353Genuinely felt bad for Ukies when it kicked off. I remember my wife asking what I thought and said something along the lines of "oh shit, they're totally fucked. Russia is the 2nd strongest military, they're going to fold Ukraine in days." no idea they would get exposed this hard. Even after they stopped the assault on the airport I thought it would all fall apart eventually under the might of the "unstoppable" Russia war machine. Then they got the legendary chechens involved and I thought, oh it's definitely over now. Turns out the propaganda worked on me too.
>>64899353What do the ziggers think is going to happen once (if) they "win"? The US completed its version of the 4-year-and-counting SMO in just three weeks and then over a decade occupying the country and still has forces present after more than 20 years.
>>64899472They will try to apply the Chechen model, and set up a quisling traitor to run the place backed up by massive brutality from security forces.
in the prelude and for the first like day i thought it'd be over in two weeks unironically, by the next month i thought it'd be over before christmas with some lousy peace treaty or something, by the time 2023 rolled around i thought russia in its current form wouldn't last another year or two. by now i don't know what to think anymore
>>64899489Imagine life as a Russian conscript getting passed around between the Ukrainians and Chechens. TZD is doing them a favor.
Don't get me wrong but honestly I am kinda nostalgic for the early days
>>64899353>how do you think it will end?pic relatedI believe the russian lines will collapse in most sections of the front, but they will try to consolidate their remaining forces around Donbabwe and Crimea where it will reach a new stalemate because Ukraine won't be able to keep up momentum as they are pretty exhausted too. A peace treaty will be signed and pidors do a gigantic goalpoast saying that was the objective from day one, then when Russia looks how fucked their economy is they will have a new power struggle.
>>64899587in a case where the front line breaks and they are forced back to pre 2022 borders there is no way they are keeping crimea since by that point they will have a reason to blow up the bridge effectively cutting off it off
I don't think this will end until monke dies. The incorporation of Belarus and Ukraine back into Russia was supposed to be his imperial reconstruction project. By calling it off, he becomes just another lame vatnigger chieftain, like Gorby or Eltzyn (both of whom he despises).
>>64899393>Either an attempted naval invasion of odesa KINO
>>64899591/k/ isn’t going back to how it was 10 years ago even if the war ends. Most oldfags are gone
>>64899591>>64899638i wonder if armatard will return, assuming he didn't kurt cobain himself like a month into the war
>>64899353>What are your honest thoughts on the war?Annexing a country is bad, annexing a country who's borders you have formally recognized is even worse.>How much longer do you thing it will go on?Until Putin's death.>How do you think it will end?Putin dies, either naturally or with assistance, the new guy pins the whole thing on Putin and seeks peace.>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?I don't think there will be one, maybe prolonged negotiations during a cease fire.
>>64899401There's no reason to, because surrendering just means they'll give up some defensive positions and get invaded again a week later.
Is America still funding them or is it 100% Europeans now?
>>64899775both still fund russia Im afraid
>>64899393>Russia moving the goalposts to what they have at the time, claim that was the original goal all along and then trying to act smug about itThis is basically guaranteed no matter the outcome.
>>64899587Not going to happen. Even if Russian meatgrinder stopped Ukies have no manpower and material to go on the offensive.It would have to be something else (like Priggo's rebeliion but successfull) and I don't beleive even Moke croaking would be enough tbqh.
>>64899353>What are your honest thoughts on the war?A completely unnecessary shitshow that could have been avoided if Europe had taken the threat seriously.>How much longer do you thing it will go on? 6 months. Russia is spent.>How do you think it will end?A de facto freeze in the current lines of contact.>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?There won't be one.
>>64899393>2 years ish, hopefully longer for more dead ruskiesWestern countries should stop being cucked and start sending soldiers.
>>64899800Yep, those 35k men killed has really taken a major toll
>>64899353It's going to last at least 4 more years unless the monke suddenly dies
>>64899775It's 100% Europeans since like 2025
>>64899800>Even if Russian meatgrinder stopped Ukies have no manpower and material to go on the offensive.Depends on how and what ends. One of the reasons some of the large attacks worked is because russians weren't able to plug the holes in their lines in time. If they continue to lose more than they recruit, it will be just a question of when and where the next breach will become possible. You won't need some major attacking force to exploit those holes. Same with the offensive in the south - a lot of the issues there were in fact because the russians had the opportunity to move response forces back and forth between various lines breaking, as well as covering themselves with aviation and artillery. Artillery is pretty much attrited today, compared to back then. Aviation is also quire a bit more fucked. If the response forces on the ground are tied up, then good luck holding a position.
>>64899826If they stop actively throwing the meat into the grinder their loss rate will go down significantly.>if
I'm looking forward to the development of a massive DMZ, just like Korea.
>>64899775Last I checked America stopped sending military aid. Europe can still buy American weapons and give it to Ukraine, but America won't give weapons away for free anymore.
>>64899830berlin wall 2.0?
>>64899800>and I don't beleive even Moke croaking would be enough tbqh.I'm 99% sure the only reason it's still going is because of him. Putin dies, whoever will replace him will try to sue for peace and disengage while they still have Crimea, and be hailed a hero for ending the war.
>>64899353For the first two years I kept thinking there had to be some deeper plan that I just wasn't seeing but in hindsight I think it was always exactly what it looked like and they're just that incompetent. I don't know what the the future looks like and I don't think they know what the future looks like either.
>>64899353>What are your honest thoughts on the war?This whole thing has been incredible to witness. I expected it to go like the soviet-Afghan war, instead the Russians blunted themselves with a failed rush and have been endlessly doubling-down since. Shame more western countries aren't able or willing to kick the cunts while they're down instead of the slow boil strategy of economic pressure, even if it is working.>How much longer do you thing it will go on?Years more at least, nobody is budging on negotiations and too much has been spent up to this point.>How do you think it will end?Russia becomes DPRK 2.0>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Chinese Siberia. Either it gets traded in exchange for 'closer ties' or the chinks just take it outright and tell vlad to try and do something about it.
>>64899353four more years!
>>64899875>Shame more western countries aren't able or willing to kick the cunts while they're down instead of the slow boil strategy of economic pressure, even if it is working.Western governments would love to send ground forces but the people who would actually be fighting don't want to go. It's obvious that Russian tanks won't be rolling into Berlin any time soon so the average person quite reasonably sees it as not their problem.
>>64899489It won't work. The hatred for russians is so much deeper now compared to whatever chechens had after they got attacked by russians. Also Ukraine took steps towards the West which chechens never did or intended to do. Besides Russia will never be able to capture Ukraine.
shows the cynical nature of a genuine war where hundreds die for a few inches of lands. It's clear this conflict is a big testing lab for world
>>64899839still insane Trump pretends it costs anything for the US, the intels they share are just copypasted from something they got anyway
>>64899900Easy solution Though Europe is too gay and retarded to capitalize on this
>>64899353>What are your honest thoughts on the war?it feels like a continuation of syria given all the drones and mad max equipment. another parallel is the iran-iraq war given the trench warfare and war of the cities / tanker war. two interesting things are how it changed warfare forever unlike armenia-azerbaijan, and how north korea entered the war.>How much longer do you thing it will go on? How do you think it will end? What do you think will be the final dramatic act?who knows? at the moment its very easy to see a ukrainian defeat given how much manpower issues the country has along with their continual loss of territory. envisioning a russian defeat though involves invoking fantasy. people have been claiming doom for russia throughout the war but none of it has materialized. if there is weakness for russia, it's well hidden.
>>64899829>If they stop actively throwing the meat into the grinderToo european and gay for mother russia
>>64899975>russia won't lose because>b-because it just won't okayi don't understand this logic.
>>64899850Don't think so unfortunately. Most likely successor atm is Patrushev jr. and that guy is batshit insane warmonger.
>>64899975Envisioning a Russian defeat simply involves extrapolating current trends until one of them ends the war.The Russian economy is the thing that can be sustained for the least time. I'm not expecting it to fall apart soon, but it is decades closer than Ukraine running out of people or territory.
>>64899970Too based for this gay Earth.
>>64899949I did say "try". I think Ukraine is just too big for Russia to swallow. But they can really make a mess of the place while trying.
The current conflict will end within the next 3 years but the war will continue until either Ukraine dissapear or retake control of its territory.This is a France-Germany 1870-1918 or Armenia-Azerbaidjan 1991-2025 type of clusterfuck.
>>64899816Why? It's better to watch two retards fight each other from the sidelines than to get personally involved.
>>64899975>if there is weakness for russia, it's well hidden.only from you m8
>>64899353>How much longer do you thing it will go on?Maybe a few years or a few months, depending on Trump>How do you think it will end? Either with a collapse of the front from most likely Ukraine>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Either Trump strongarms Ukraine though seems unlikely, or EU forces push into Ukraine during a breakdown of the frontline to force a NK/SK situation.
>>64900099>TrumpUkraine is financed entirely by Europe now. What fucking leverage would Trump have over them, threaten to arm fucking Russia?
>>64900006What would the Russian economy breaking even look like? The oligarchs having to pay out of pocket for a continuation and telling the figure head enough is enough?
>>64900128gradual degradation of the civilian economy until it starts effecting the military economy
>>64899353>How much longer do you thing it will go on?Most likely another 2-3 years, with the last year(s) having russians running on fumes from a broken civilian economy.>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Russians will do a general mobilization. Why else would they shut off the only source russians can freely whine about the government?And that could be the February revolution moment for russia. Unlikely, but could be.>>64900099Trump pissed away all the leverage he had, and what's left is either replaceable (intel sharing) or would lead to him getting shot (killing off PURL). The whole US peace theatre is pointless imo, both sides see no reason or incentive to give up.
>>64900145That's already occurring though
>>64900125Withdraw all US intelligence support. Where do you think Ukraine is getting their intel to drone russia oil? What about refusing to let EU arm Ukraine with US weapons?I'm sure there's a lot more behind the scenes.
>>64900125>threaten to arm fucking RussiaIs it really that far fetched?
>>64900099>Either Trump strongarms Ukraine though seems unlikelyIt seems very unlikely given that he's been trying to do this for over a year now and gotten nowhere. The "quick peace" Trump has always pushed for was always only plausible as a major Ukrainian defeat, and Trump thinking he could do it easily meant he believed the Russian propaganda that Ukraine was just a US puppet that would fold as soon as he stopped new aid packages.
>>64900159Yes, for a variety of reasons. He's being a huge zigger faggot but he can't ever materially support them.
>>64900154and now it's a waiting game until russia's military economy can no longer support the war effort at the level need to keep up offensive operations and then finally defensive ones
>>64899393>or putin himselfNah, Ukraine have had chances to maybe kill him and checked with the US first and got told not to. Unless Europe pulls its finger out and starts dramatically putting in the work to take over from the US in key areas, that will never happen. And with how much the EU loves to bog shit down in beaurocracy, they won't get there even if they wanted to.
>>64899587>>64899353If America hadn't pussied out on military aid Ukraine could be at the original borders right now and be humiliating Putin. This was a generational fumble.
>>64900157>intel to drone oilNigga the refineries are visible on google maps
>>64900125Delete this before you give him ideas
>>64900162>>64900153The level of idiocy pisses me off. You want to arm Ukraine then use that as leverage. Why the ever loving fuck was he humiliating and getting into slapfights with Zelensky in the WH? Putin must've been laughing all day. That shit probably extended the war by another year.
>>64900192you need to know what installations are currently active you need to know what to hit in the facility that will put it out of action the longestyou need to know where the AA cuckold chairs are so you make sure they can sit there and watch your rocket skirt their engagement rangenow Europe could and is providing some of that intel but the US has so many more assets and much more experience in collecting, processing it and producing an intel package you can act onalso keep in mind that parts of that are time sensitive
>>64900170I understand that scenario is very unlikely but in case Witkoff conviced him it is a great idea, who would stop him? It's not like Trump feels obliged to act according to any rules, constitution included.
>>64900211You just know the second it happened, his cultists would cheer that it's a good thing actually that Trump is sending Putin Bradleys.
>>64899426>Turns out the propaganda worked on me too.It takes a man to admit that; I respect you for realizing it. You're better for having learned from it, and I respect that.
>>64900194Kegsbreath is /k/ lurker so it is more than likely.
>>64899353>How much longer do you thing it will go on? 2030 at the latestHow do you think it will end? Democratic president in 2028 turning the spigot back on and giving Ukraine everything Trump took away and maybe more. Putin either "retires", dies in office, or is purged.Gun rights untouched because SCOTUS.What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Bridge getting destroyed finally.Russia suing for peace after regime change and fucking off.
>>64900225I wish this was going to happen but I'm not riding high on hopium.
>>64900232Ukraine just needs equipment and intel. They have everything else.
It all depends on how the Russian economy will go. Like they cant keep up what they are doing forever
>>64899472The entire point of this war was to take Donetsk and Luhansk regions and reinstate Yanukovych as the leader in Ukraine so that a Russia-friendly government follows Russian orders.
>>64900237They would also need a lot of manpower for that.
>>64900239Russians are extremely tolerant of low living standards. It is absolutely disastrous for the economy but there's no depths they won't tolerate.
>>64900225I don't think TV man will give Ukraine everything again
>>64899353>What are your honest thoughts on the war?Nothing but impressed by the Ukrainians for how well they've fought, adapted, and innovated to stay in the fight, while simultaneously being disappointed by Western powers for being such pussies about the whole thing under the guise of "escalation management". I already knew the Russian military/state were corrupt and retarded, though this did admittedly exceed my expectations for just how bad it really is there. The exception would be Russia's influence campaigns and psyop capabilities, which have actually been shockingly effective and impressive for what they've been able to achieve among US lawmakers and citizens.>How much longer do you thing it will go on?2.5-3 years>How do you think it will end?Frozen frontline + DMZ.Russian gov't shitting itself because there's finally a risk of revolution.>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Bank runs + economic crash in Russia. Putin dying (fingers crossed). The Kerch bridge going down for good.
>>64900281Last time Putins popularity tanked was when he threatened retirement cuts
>>64900293Support for Putin is still high. Russians are just incredibly susceptible to that greatness through suffering meme. You can see all kinds of interviews where Russians are just grudgingly accepting the war as a necessity.
>>64900190>just go to war in yurop bro
Key point for operations as they currently stand will be when Russia comes to the choice of stopping current offensive operations or conducting widespread conscription among its core population, something Putin has been loathe to do.Scenarios from that:-Continued combat operations of cuurrent scale or slightly less.-Combat operations of a defensive nature to hold current gains, mostly using drones and long-range fires to keep the conflict going.-Korean-style DMZ, possibly with Western/NATO presence in Ukraine.-Russian suffers implosion due to economic/political factors, in a 1917 kind of way-European/Western support for Ukraine wanes leading to collapse of Ukrainian military logistics-Frozen conflict/ongoing limited military operations against a backdrop of pointless ceasefires/diplomacy, ala 2014-2022.I think the highest likelihood is a DMZ, followed by frozen conflict, because neither side is neither too weak to be defeated, nor strong enough to achieve its own objectives in a decisive manner. Ukraine isn't going to surrender no matter what happens, and Russia is simply too big to be forced out of the areas it took unless something dramatic happens.
>>64900128>What would the Russian economy breaking even look like?Like 1991 or 1917. Elvira has been warning about how all measures to prop up the ruble and stabilize the economy are just kicking the can down the road. They are basically robbing Peter to pay Paul and it will eventually reach a threshold were things will start to cascade out of control, pensions and salaries will either go unpaid for months or be shallowed by ever increasing inflation. Slavs might be servile cucks with sadomasochistic tendencies but even your averange Churka and domesticated Tibla has to eat at least twice a week, and if they can't procedure it themselves they'll embezzle a way to it or outright steal it which isn't particularly conductive to societal stability, logistics or long-term planning.
>>64900328>robbing Peter to pay Paul>t. Perun
>>64900099Trump threw away any leverage he may have had by denying Ukraine support and sucking Putin off. I doubt Ukraine even takes him seriously anymore
>>64900125>What fucking leverage would Trump have over themWithholding the sale of ammo for the Patriot batteries.
>>64900338Funny how you can interchange any President since Crimean Invasion and it sounds the same>Obama sent blankets because muh green men>trump being who he is>Biden swallowing red line after red line like licorice
>>64900330It's a very common phrase, ok?
>>64900343Biden as much as I don’t like him gave a pretty decent amount of support however little it was
>>64900340Seems unlikely to be anywhere close to enough leverage, and it would tank US credibility as an arms supplier.
>>64900239You;ll know its really going to shit when they throw the chick who is doing everything possible to keep it going (since they declined her attempt to quit) under the bus
>>64900293>>64900303
>>64900358It's pretty clear that the Biden administration and the other NATO leader's main goal wasn't so much to help Ukraine win as it was to keep Russia from winning and letting the conflict spread west.That is where the slow drip of supplies came in, the agonized stages of giving better equipment (Patriot, Leopard, F-16, Storm Shadow, ATACMS, etc), and the various operational limitations they put on the Ukrainians as far as using it. (i.e. can shoot into occupied areas but not actual Russia, etc)It was hypocritical while Ukraine was/is fighting for its life, but they had an major worry about Russian nukes. Dictators tend to do crazy things when they think they are losing.
>>64900366>unlikely to be anywhere close to enough leverageThere is no alternative to Patriot that yuros can provide batteries and interceptors for.>it would tank US credibility as XThat's Agent Orange's specialty.
>>64900381Better than what it is now at least
>>64900381>wasn't so much to help Ukraine winI don't agree. I think they (both the west and Ukrainian leadership) concluded that winning isn't something that could be done by routing the Russian army in the field and holding all Ukrainian territory up to the border. That wouldn't stop the Russian regime from wanting to fight or from being able to fight - it's not winning a war, just moving the battlefield to an area more politicially volatile for Russia and politicially complicated for the west (Russian territory or the border itself).So how can the Ukraine win that way? Invade Moscow and unseat Putin? Russia would nuke itself and the world before letting that happen. They can't, there's no realistic way decisive conventional offensive action could extinguish the will or the ability of Russia to fight for anything other than a brief period at most.Instead they need to bleed Russia white so that it loses the ability to fight this war, or another war any time soon. It's not fancy or flashy, but inflicting massive materiel and demographic damage to Russia is the only realistic way to ensure Ukrainian security in the long term.IMHO the cowardice is not better addressing their external revenue and materiel sources. European intelligence services clearly just aren't nasty or competent enough to do what needs to be done in those spheres, which comes at great cost.
30 year war probablyRussia wont stop until it takes everything east of the Dnipro imo
>>64900458>30 yearsThey'll run out of steppe mystery meat well before that.
>>64899353i think Ukraine is hunkering down for the long haul. they are prepared to bleed Russia until Trump's gone.you'd think Russia would try and lock in some gains and agree to peace before then, but Russia basically does the exact opposite of logical every single time.
>>64900498>i think Ukraine is hunkering down for the long haul.What sucks is that the Druzba contract doesn't expire until January 1st, 2030.
>>64899353>How do you think it will end?Broken-backed theory but without the nukes as both sides degrade the war production and economy of the other.
>>64899353When the war first started I genuinely thought Russia would steamroll Ukraine in a couple of months, so clearly I don't know shit, but I always thought it was retarded anyway because Ukraine had become politically comfortable with low-intensity proxy warfare. I just couldn't understand why Russia wouldn't just slowly dial up the pressure until they could demand a free separatist state, give it a year, then have "free and fair" elections to absorb them. If I had to guess at a direction of the war, I think it will be trying to outlast the EU so they can rectify their mistake and force a broke as fuck Ukraine to settle back into low-intensity border grind for another couple of years as Russia slowly de-mobes and dials back on the war wartime production to unfuck its economy while it finishes taking the bites they need to claim total annexation of the regions, and changes its international political messaging back to "uwu, we'w so sowwy fo invading ukwaine, pwease won't you fogive us and lift the sanctions? My babushka, she goes hungwy. You wouldn't stawve a wittle old lady, would wou?". Russia evidently can't do all out war, but maybe they can grind out a few hundred square km from an exhausted Ukraine with Buryat and Nork meat over the next 2-4 years and then lie like fuck for peace.
>>64900408>>64900381Biden is an ex Cold Warrior, Ukraine dust up under him was a huge stroke of luck as he really was more than happy to assist in dead Ruskie creation. There aren't going to be many politicos like that left because for over 50 years now we have really operated under a very different standard. Still made me giggle seeing Sleepy Joe send all those bombs.
>>64900567>Biden is an ex Cold WarriorSerbia was strangely quiet during 2021-2025.
>>64899353Same, I massively misjudged the capabilities of Ukraine. I knew Russia was a paper tiger but I expected them to at least be able to knock over a neighbor>Honest thoughtsThe drone videos have given us a skewed understanding of modern conflict. I believe this will be the Russo-Japanese war of the next world war. That is to say all the major powers will mistakenly look at this conflict and erroneously believe that's what it's gonna be like>how much longerDepends entirely on Western Europe and us. Ukraine's economy is effectively on life support, if aid gets pulled then Russia will be able to overpower them. For Russia, I think they've got 4 years tops left. Eventually Putin will die and there will be a crisis of succession within Russia al la the '93 constitutional crisis>how do you think it'll endRussia will likely still hold Donbass and Crimea, they've been too far Russified to be easily reintegrated into Ukraine. But as said earlier, that's entirely down to what we do>final dramatic actMassive Ukranian assault on Crimea that stalls due to lack of internal and external support. Permanently settles the score that Russia will not fuck with Ukraine. The conflict will however continue as limited skirmishes along the new border, some by government led groups and others by completely grassroots militas
>>64899393After they retreated from Kharkov and the Russians were expecting a total collapse and being pushed back out of Ukraine they had their mouthpieces already set that up. They claimed that the objectives had been achieved>Denazification of Ukraine>Demilitarisation of Ukraine>Lumping the West with $1 trillion repair bill>Emptying the stockpile of the West for military stuff>Allowed the multipolar world come into being because the West was shown as weak and ineffective and it will now be unable to rebuild Ukraine and defend itself from Russia and ChinaOf course, Ukraine didn't kick Russia out because Russia just mined everything and the only nation that could provide enough actual materiel (USA) didn't want to.
>>64900322>Russian suffers implosion due to economic/political factors, in a 1917 kind of wayNot to sound like a doomer but this could just as easily happen in America given how unstable Trump’s administration is becoming (although a better parallel would the civil wars that triggered the downfall of the Roman Republic). China is at risk too because of Xi’s cronyism and the economic slowdown of the past decade.Maybe we’ll get lucky and all three wind up happening.
>>64900593I still chuckle up when I remember that accidentally published Russian article about how the world has entered muh multipolar era where the West now has to treat Russia with respect and as an equal yadda yadda.Little did they know that they would become the geopolitical equivalent of a violent junkie: dangerous due to unpredictability and irrational behavior, but still ultimately pathetic and rotting piece of shit destined to suffer due to its own idiocy.
>>64899353>What are your honest thoughts on the war?First few months were hilarious, just watching the shills desperately coping and seething. Ever since Russia pulled out of the north front its been going pretty much how I expected.>How much longer do you thing it will go on?Probably not more than a year or two, but its already running longer than I expected.>How do you think it will end?Putin accidentally falls out a window while accidentally bump-firing a pistol directly into the back of his own head. His replacement blames him for the war in order to save face while admitting defeat, and gets spun by propaganda as the hero who saved Russia from Putin's war.>What do you think will be the final dramatic act?Some politicking behind closed doors that we don't get to see, maybe some Russians rioting in the streets. Neither side is going to seriously go on the offensive now, that's just silly.
>>64900621Here
>>64900625The war will end once Ukraine runs out of manpower. This is probably sooner rather than later because their ability to resist appears to be steadily declining as the war goes on and they’ve been doing mass conscription without a noticeable increase in army size for a while now.
>>64900629Kek, even better than I remembered>posturing proudly how Ukraine has been ”returned” to Russia, even though now Ukrainians hate Russians as much as is humanely possible, killing any sense of common fraternity for generations if not permanently>all that seething about muh Anglo-Saxons
>>64900548and other fantasies that you can tell yourself as a goalpost moving zigger lol.from beginning to now, ukraine has enjoyed a significant casualty ratio advantage.ziggers are losing because they are dying that fast, i know it mindbreaks people like you who demand they win because they're bigger, but that's what's happening.
>>64900640the war will end when russia collapses economically.
>>64900548>>64900595>>64900625cool fanfiction, but most of this is total bullshit.>body exchangesah, so you're THAT zigger loser, now your coping makes more sense.
>>64899353I think this war will be over in the late 2020s.
>>64899353>honest thoughtsI believed Ukraine was screwed until I saw the clown car brigade and the giant logistics pileup, after that, which is quite early on, I've genuinely believed that Ukraine can win this, even retake Crimea (what the fuck is Russia going to do post-collapse? Cry and bleed on the ukies even harder?)>how much longer?I'm not knowledgeable enough to predict this. There's cracks in Russias economy, but who knows how long they can kick the can down the road. Whay's certain is that the longer they postpone ending the war, the harder the crash will be after the war. They are building up a gigantic societal debt.>how will it endI can see three scenarios that I find probable. 1. Russia can't replenish their forces fast enough, which leads to ukies managing to recapture territory. Small gains at first, but increasing in pace when the problem compounds. 2. Russias economy finally crashes, leading to a rapidly deterioating situation at the front since they can't pay the soldiers (enough), the people back home can't afford basic amenities, morale plummets, etc. 3. The ukies reach their breaking point and accept a US-brokered peace deal, i.e they eat shit just to finally end the war (least likely and I hope this doesn't happen).>final dramatic actUkie glowies smuggle in a briefcase nuke into central moscow, detonated by anti-putin chechen separatists. The red square goes up in a nuclear inferno, broadcast live on television.
>>64900713>Russia can't replenish their forces fast enough, which leads to ukies managing to recapture territoryThis is already happening. The ukes are dealing about 35k casualties a month with plans to shoot for 50k, while Russian recruitment has dropped to about 25-30k a month.
>>64900196>Why the ever loving fuck was he humiliating and getting into slapfights with Zelensky in the WHBecause he (Trump) is a massive fucking narcissist? He cares more about Putin thinking he's cool, and the adoration he would receive for ending the war, than he cares about actually ending the war.
>>64900099>Either Trump strongarms Ukraine though seems unlikelyextremely unlikely now that EU has shown that they can carry the weight of the supply without USA, so he has no cards to play
>>64900625>>Ukrainian KIA 15x higher than Russian KIA (evidenced by body exchanges).AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>>64900625Welp, time to donate another $100 to Magyars birds, I guess. Your post inspired me to.
I am still mentally in March 2022 I have received a masterclass in warfare. A style of fighting many will imitate.
Will any European nation declare war on Russia if it looks like the russians are on the back foot? Or are they still too scared of 'muh nooks' to provide anything beyond material support?
>>64899353>what I would like to seeUkraine somehow gets enough manpower and equipment to rally and push to Moscow causing banan emperor to sue for peace>what's probably going to happenContinuation of ww1 tier pacing of warfare where lines don't really move. Ukraine tired of fighting but must hold since it's a war of existence. Russia keeps throwing piecemeal meatbag assaults because they got fuckall capabilities. Like watching 2 geriatrics trying to fight to the death.
>>64900864Maybe if there are Ukrainian troops in Smolensk or Ryazan. Which is to say never.
>>64899353>professional army>conscripts>mercenaries>prisoners>foreign voluntold>cripple brigadesYOU ARE HERE>child soldiersScreencap this, you have heard here first.At least now the banan has been put into law https://www.freshplaza.com/europe/article/9813245/russia-introduces-gost-standard-for-bananas/
>>64900884>Like watching 2 geriatrics trying to fight to the death.that's exactly what it looks like
>>64899353Desert Storm on steroids, the west wishes it could do something like this.
>>64900904it still makes me laugh "people" were unironically saying that in the first dayseven after the clown parade
>>64900735Source?
Winning scenario for Ukraine>Democrat president starts gibbing free weapons>Europe sends in troopsSide note the Finland and Sweden joining NATO hurt more than helped because they could have just been the Ukrainian version of NK but I can’t blame them since it ensures their existence against Russian invasion.>Russian economy withers under sanctions and massive military expense deficits>Intelligence apparatuses spark another separatist movement in the Islamic regions of Russia forcing Putin to divert attention away from the frontWinning scenario for Russia>Monke eat banana
>>64900629>The Russian worldI still don't understand this one. Is it a psychological response born out of the humiliation of 1991?
>>64899353I got mobilized so now Ukraine's gonna win duh, as I'm clearly the protagonist of the war despite the non-combat role
>>64899426Yeah this. Part of the hilarity engendered by the Special Needs Operation going sideways was that it was completely unexpected.
>>64900928Russians believe they have a special, inevitable destiny to rule the world, whereupon everything will be set to rights and Russian justice will make everyone happen and punish everyone, even the HATO agents who pissed in the elevator. No I'm not joking. They've been talking like this for like 500 years
>>64900946That's presumably why they are constantly seething about the anglos, who are the ones with the special, inevitable destiny to rule the world
>>64900864why would they?
>>64900965Sorry that we brought infrastructure to your shit-smelling backwater. Sorry you couldn't maintain it.
>>64899472>What do the ziggers think is going to happen once (if) they "win"?They will try to rebuild russian empire.Huge chunk of tech&weapons glazed by tankies and sovietboos were made by Ukrainians.
>>64900982>russian empireSoviet union*Though this does make me wonder. Just how much was the soviet union's rise to power thanks to lend lease from ww2?
>>64900629Hilariously delusional that they believed; or at least tried to deceive others into believing, that conquering Ukraine would somehow usher in a new era of global multi polarity and own the west once and for all.This is so delusional that honestly i'm increasingly of the belief that Russians actually are just mongels and not european because no European could be so retarded
>>64899353>not a single remark or question about weaponsfuck off OP
>>64901006>Just how much was the soviet union's rise to power thanks to lend lease from ww2?Do you seriously think that Lend-Lease provided more resources than the Russians stole from half of Europe? Just the Romanian gold they took for ‘safekeeping’ is worth 12 billion in today’s prices. Even Soviet gulags were built using materials they seized from German concentration camps. And those fuckers will endlessly moan about how everyone in the world supposedly owes them.
>>64901071Sar……
>>64899426I never want to see the fucking photos of putin standing around shirtless again. The mystique of the sleeping bear, our timeless enemy the monolithic USSR, is gone forever. Id ask if we even have a peer anymore but we are actively following Russias lead too. Its amazing isnt it, of all their spectacular failures they sure succeeded at dragging us down with them
>>64901079>zigger replies to his own seethe posts after getting humiliatedkek
>>64901089When are they going to accept that leftists, browns, russoids and others who hate freedom just aren't welcome on /k/?
>>64901099sadly with most nothing short of a cleaver to the head will convince them.
Can we just ban every global south country from the western internet?
>>64900864I would 100% expect either China or India to freak out and invade, seeing it as an opportunity to carve up a militarily weakened Russia. >but China is an allyChina cares about China. No one in the world would seriously try to stop them.I know this is a schizo take so I'm not really expecting it, I just wouldn't be surprised.
>>64900864>if it looks like the russians are on the back foot>out of tanks>professional army: destroyed>out of cucumbers>private sector bankruptcy numbers vertical >murdered their own C&C>closest ally about to be assraped>shadow civil war over russian amazon>succession crisis brewing the in Caucasus>hard EOL of most soviet plumbing in all of the country>its easier to count the oblasts that are not in default, than those that areI don't know at this point it seems like it would be a waste of effort. A bit longer and it can be done as a UN humanitarian mission.
>>64900901>Screencap.DONEYou'll see me in the future
