Guy in FL arrested from selling FRT at gunshow

https://cbs12.com/news/local/bump-fire-stock-device-force-reset-triggers-ar-15-crime-illegal-sale-texas-man-florida-news-west-palm-beach-gun-show-fully-automatic-firearm-rapid-firing-weapon

any updates on the arhk as designs is working on? Also is it possible to convert from sef to picto housing?

>>64900248
>any updates on the arhk as designs is working on?
nothing particularly new

Are there any short throw 3 position selectors yet?

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>>64900497
ASD is supposedly has a 45/90 degree three position Arc-fire. I've seen several videos of guntubers and influencers demoing it, but it isn't on the website. I'm definitely interested in one myself.

>>64900248
Haven't seen anything yet which is fucking lame. They need to get going on that shit.
Raregreed has their drop in FRT pack for factory roller gun housings. It is one pack and you just use different selectors depending on if the housing is SEF or NAVY. Price is $620
But it is Raregreed.

https://rarebreedtriggers.com/product/frt-rd3-ambi/

>>64900497
ARC V2 by asdesigns is coming out soon

>>64899646
Anyone do a VZ61 yet?
Many of the new receivers use AR parts which work with FRT.
Just curious how they shoot and what their fun factor is.

>>64900549
I just bought a 3d printer the other day, would be a cool project

https://youtu.be/LSSSVJ2tWQ4

Why is ASD so fucking slow? It's insane how long they're taking to do shit, and they just keep pushing the ship date back over and over.

>>64900578
everytime I see someone complain I email him and ask to delay the shipments another week.

>>64900701
You better cut that out right now.

>>64900569
What printer did you go with?
>thinking of doing the same thing

>>64900777
I got a bamboo p1s w/ ams, not saying it's the best and I'm very new to 3d printing, but I like it a lot.

I'm keeping it off the internet entirely and will never make a bamboo account so when they roll out the cuck firmware that stops guns from being printed, I wont be affected

https://printandgo.tech/blog/3d-gunt-solution-to-prevent-3d-printed-ghost-guns

>>64899651
FRT ≠ Bump Stock? Or is it just retard journalism getting their "scary" terms mixed up?

>>64900810
I think FL puts anything that influences the fire rate as a bump stock under law

>>64900799
>using AI to ID gun prints
RIP fidget guns.

>>64900843
I'm sure there will be printers that wont have it, or variants to add custom firmware

My printer doesnt have any ai bullshit

>>64899651
>FL
Can meatball desantis push to repeal the retarded bumpstock and incendiary bans already?
I hate how many RINOs we have in the FL senate

>>64901159
He won't do it because "muh machine gun killing the kids."

Lima 6 barrel and handguard will arrive tomorrow. This Saturday is gonna be a fun one going to finish the upper and mess with my bullpup again. Trying it in another configuration to see if I can get it to work. I am excited. Hopefully the bullpup works so I can finally put my mp5 back together. Took out the arc and trigger for it.

Anyone got the stl files for a leber v2 with the front pin (ap5/etc)? I'm not in the mood to pay $500+ for something I can print myself at a fraction of the cost.

>>64901494
you should look into getting a inconel gas tube

https://www.vsevenweaponsystems.com/v7-extreme-environment-gas-tube/

>>64901610
https://odysee.com/@S3igu2:c/LeberV2:5

>>64901159
you are a retard if you think a republican is going to do anything other than molest children and steal the copper out of the walls of government buildings

>>64902263
based

>>64899646
Hoffman's legal fund has almost hit its goal. Gonna be fun watching Rare Greed fail when someone actually fights one of their frivolous lawsuits for a change.

>>64902481
seems like hoffman is having a hard time because he couldnt prove he owned the patent or some dumb shit

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>>64899646
Stuff and Things just released the two round burst for the Cam Activated Reset Limiter!

>>64902598
damn that's cool!

>>64902598
Anyone got any experience with the 3 round burst one? I was thinking of using one in my m16 clone.

>>64902598
Oh hell yeah. Ive been wanting a 2 round burst

>>64902598
Actually that makes me curious. Why was the M16A2 and A4 burst hated so much? Seems useful but I have 0 combat experience

>>64903292
It's sick as hell

I think the 2 round burst on 300 Blackout would be awesome, also for any A10 build. Ofc it also makes rare Mp5 cloning possible too

>>64903576
Because the timer is hard reset, if you squeeze off two and squeeze the trigger again, you only get one more round, not three more. It must be three rounds in succession before it hits the "wall" and starts the limit over.

>>64903626
>mp5 drop in pack from ASD that has semi, 2 round semi, super semi, and safe
Please for the love of fuck make it happen.

>>64903708
might actually happen, the owner did hint that it would happen

I couldn’t find any info when researching FRT for my WBP Jack AK, I went ahead and ordered the Texas Diablo trigger with the transfer bar, and this thing fucks now! Buttery smooth and reliable too.

>>64903809
that's pretty sick, I hope a 3 position happens soon

>>64903576
What the other guy said, and also because as Stoner himself pointed out, burst is probably always a bad idea, but 3 round burst is also the worst kind. 2RB is pretty accurate, 4+RB gives you time to adjust and control the recoil, meaning 3RB is the least accurate. When people talk about shooting in short controlled bursts they usually mean 4-8 rounds, which tracks with this assessment. Fortunately militaries seem to have finally figured this out and simply teach soldiers to shoot full auto instead.

Bump also fuck these even newer captchas

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>>64903576
What the other guys said, plus the fact that it's a fucking clockwork mechanism with reports of the cam breaking. It's a shitty mechanical solution to a training deficiency of troops blasting away with full auto when they shouldn't be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF38tBn4Jhc
The burst trigger is the crossroad between the lighter and the much more controllable M16+5.56 allowing for more frequent full auto compared to the M14+7.62, conscripted troops with limited training and fucks, and McNamera's autistic obsession with numbers, ratios, statistics, and bullets per kill. Once word got out that troops were using 45,000 rounds per blasted Charlie the admin fuckers pushed for what is essentially the modern version of the magazine cutoff after the war ended.

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I’m trying to make sense of FRT compatibility for my MCX Virtus.

I bought the Geissele SSA precut trigger from ASDesigns, I got the MCX slip trip kit, and I have one of their ARC triggers.

Do these all work together or not? The description on the trip kit says not for MCX specific Geissele triggers, but the description for the Geissele trigger says precut for the ARC trigger. So… it should work right?

>>64905974
yes, it will work

What they are talking about are the triggers made by Geissele specifically for the mcx.

The trigger you bought was a a trigger for the ar15 platform which will work with the mcx and trip still

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>>64906918
No I bought the specific MCX Geissele trigger. But it says in the description for it on the site that it was cut specifically for the ARC trigger so idfk

>>64907184
hmm, now I'm not sure. I think it would work if you just take off the metal piece there. I'm pretty sure the dev stated that it would work. I'll see if I can find that post.

What you can do is email them and check, that being said, if it didnt work, they wouldnt sell it

Any designs work with factory ambi safeties? I don't like the safeties that most kits have. They look tacky as shit

>>64907206
Ya it’s just confusing how they worded it. I think it may just be compatible with the ARC and not normal super safeties

>>64907212
what do you mean but factory ambi safeties?

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>>64907214
Yeah, implying you're using the ARC, you're good

>>64907228
Thank god for the ARC. Got it for my MP5, realized it didn’t work in the Lee Sporting lower, and said fuck it because the original super safety ran extremely well anyway

So now I have two of them just waiting for a host

>>64907269
>Got it for my MP5, realized it didn’t work in the Lee Sporting lower, and said fuck it because the original super safety ran extremely well anyway
hopefully that goes well for you, the designer of the mp5 FRT said to not use the lee sporting lower because of the geometry of the lower itself

>>64907348
I’ve heard that before, but it’s run perfectly for a long time now.

Do you know what issues using the Lee sporting lower is supposed to cause? It is supposed to be a compatibility issue or a damage issue?

>>64907215
Colt ambi safeties in factory lowers

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>>64907378
https://youtu.be/TklVeKS4FCI

I think you're expecting to get more lever snapping and extraction issues

The developer s3igu2, said it a couple of times as well

But if it works for you honestly, keep running it

>>64907212
>>64907389
The options you have are the AZ Regulator or the Kabuto style/ARSS15 drop in FRTs. This allows for m16 triggers and selectors.

>>64907469
>>64907389
if you dont mind the screw in the selector, you can use the ARC fire which allows for more trigger options including Geissele triggers. You can use a Geissele with kabuto/ARSS15 FRTs but you need another piece for the hammer

looks like atrius is working on an AR-10 system. This is interesting since they need their lever to be stronger and I'm curious how they are going to support the myriad of AR-10 types. PSA/Aero/Q/DPMS G1/DPMS G2 etc..

>>64907269
You need something like this for the arc fire in the less sporting lower.https://greymarketresearch.net/mp5-trigger-housing-stopblock/

>>64905819
>mechanical solution to a training deficiency
An imaginary training deficiency, there are no reports of troops magdumping on full auto for no reason and running out of ammunition. The Bobs imagined that the much more controllable 5.56 would make something like that feasible and wanted to make sure it didn't happen.

Got this fully assembled, taking it out tomorrow. Hoping I can get it to work with the law folder. That way I don't have to worry about removing it out at the range. If I extend the stock all the way it will fold past the nutsack.

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>>64908704
I'm a dumbass and forgot to add the pic

>>64908706
>>64908704
nice piece of kit! you're getting the inconel gas tube?

>>64908714
Not currently. I may in the future. I don't plan on using it that hard currently plus there's also the case where I would rather have the gas tube fail before anything else catastrophicly does.

>>64908706
What handguard is that? I'd love to see a video of this shooting if you get a chance.

>>64908837
Its the red right hand handguard.

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Looks like yet another person is making a M249 FRT, this version is 3d printed though and not yet available

Not complaining though more options is good but damn yet again a lot of options for the 10 people that owns a m249

>>64908907
>people make a FRT for the 249
>Lima Six can use it because AR
>meanwhile my converted MG42, which uses an AR FCG, gets zero love
I hate this.

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>>64905974
>>64906918
>>64907184
>>64907228
Just got everything installed.

Had to troubleshoot a lot and ended up sanding down part of the trigger to make things (hopefully) functional.

The function test went well, so here’s hoping it goes bang super safely at the range tomorrow

>>64909354
>Had to troubleshoot a lot and ended up sanding down part of the trigger to make things (hopefully) functional.
I heard this was common

>>64909362
I’m just glad all the parts ended up working together. I guess I’ll know for sure tomorrow

>>64902481
Hoffman is going to lose unless he can invalidate the 784 patent. Atrius has an IPR going to try to do that, but those can take years and unless Hoffman becomes a party to that IPR I don't think the judge in his case is going to wait for the IPR to be resolved.

t. patent attorney who has actually bothered to read and analyze the patents.

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I'm excited. I just have a basic milspec trigger and from what I've gathered I shouldn't have to fuck with the trigger for it to run. I did get an H3 buffer weight too.

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>>64912136
You should have done more research that shit is gonna bend and break on you unless you feather the trigger.

Got back from the range. Lima 6 worked great, just has issues pulling links from an ammo bag, but that could just require either more gas or for me to make the opening a bit wider so the rounds don't get caught on it. I was also able to get my jakl bullpup in 300blk to finally work in super safe mode. Supers worked just fine, only had around 11 rounds of subs across 2 brands. The s&b ones did not cycle on SS, but the AAC subs did. Happy to finally get it working. I got a couple videos I will try and convert to webm later or I might just upload it to a free video hosting site.

>>64899646
red pill me on FRT status in nevada

Any anon have any experience with the 3d printed frt's like the kabuto?

>>64912869
Day of rope for cancerfornian invaders cannot come soon enough. The wall and deportations should have included them too.

heres a short video of my bullpup jakl and lima 6, ignore the crappy stance for the 300blk.
https://streamable.com/ut003n
https://streamable.com/x6qg1w
gonna look into how to lower size and convert to webm later some time.

>>64909354
Shooting a mag through my MCX. It runs beautifully:
>https://files.catbox.moe/x4zuod.webm

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>>64909354
>Had to troubleshoot a lot and ended up sanding down part of the trigger to make things (hopefully) functional
i've had 2 hoffman safeties and an arc fire, the arc fire and one super safety (fudd arms) fuctioned with no modifications at all. The other (gmr) wouldn't work in super safe, couldn't pull the trigger far enough to fire. I had to make a cut on the trigger, picrel. worked fine after that.

>>64912696
that's pretty sick I think im going to looking into a lima 6 at some point

>>64912936
I have the metal version, works great

>>64913277
going to be honest, I didnt think the bullpup would work, glad to know I was wrong

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mp5 22lr footage by @advancedresettech

-drop in
-pull hard for semi
-pull soft for frt

>>64913511
I'm getting a rattlr pretty soon, what part specifically did you have to sand?

More P90 FRT footage by dorin technologies

https://youtu.be/2-dq_Sod0So

>>64913848
I was starting to lose faith that I would get as well. I think I found the sweet spot for it to work. One weird thing I found about it is that if I rack the bolt slowly on SS I have to let go of the trigger to reset it, but if do it fast and let it close fast, it seems to work. I wonder if I just need to get a milspec flat trigger to fix it.

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Looks like the guy that's making the m240 FRT is still making a m249 FRT as well. So that's 5 confirmed in development

- ASDesigns is working on it; requires separate lower
- Customsmithmfg also has one in development
- In development by Partisan Triggers
- Open source 3D printed version in development
- m240 dev confirmed development

>>64916860
>Still $450
>Sold out through May
Yeesh

>>64917639
There are other options in development but yeah that's rough

Anything for the XCR yet?

>>64917663
there are little bufferless platforms that have slips enabled for FRT usage, mcx and jakl comes to mind. I don't believe XCR is one of them yet.

>>64911506
Hello fellow attorney anon. I'm on the criminal side and IP law is dumb and gay so I don't do it. What's the burden on patent suits and who has it?

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Has anyone editted the supersafety files into a two position function?

Been thinking about doing a MCR or Lima-6 build, but considering the fact that the super-safe mode is the middle and not the primary function I'd rather have a super-safe only version instead of the three mode version.

If that doesn't make sense I'm drunk posting so I apologize.

Also FUCK YOU WGWS YOU FAT FURRY FUCK.

>>64918577
looks like pembie does
https://pembletonandsons.com/products/2-pos-super-safety

I swear super safety shop sold them in metal, but I guess they dont anymore. You can probably message them about it though

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>>64918577
>MCR or L6 build
>two position
Just use the upcoming ASD Arc-fire that is 45/90
A 90 degree throw to go to FRT SS mode is fine.
The issue with the stupid crossbolt being difficult to get into FRT SS mode quickly is isolated to the dumb gay crossbolt safety. The lever based designs, especially the Arc-fire 45/90 setup, are WAY quick and easy to get into FRT SS mode.
I've unironically measured it compared to semi auto only using the current 90/180 degree Arc-fire, and you lose at most like 0.10s flipping to 180 deg vs 90 deg.

bump

Rare breed mp5 FRT footage

https://youtu.be/9bJAhm9pvAE

>>64923571
Oh yeah it's kino

I feel like JTS super safe footage is pretty rare

https://youtu.be/thgY9kQLRhs

https://youtu.be/TWIAt09sAVA

Hoffman has filed to dismiss rare greed's charges.

>>64925300
nice!

>>64917639
It's also probably the only previously serious established company making something like this, which is interesting. I ordered theirs over either of the more inexpensive options coming out since I just have more faith Dorin can produce something that works smoothly on the first try.

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>>64916831
You have to sand down the smooth part of the trigger. Keep in mind this only applies to Geissele triggers, and yours might be fine. Also, if you sand too much off it will render your trigger useless

>>64926193
you had to do this even though your trigger was cut by ASD?

>>64926551
Yes. It was only a tiny bit of material that I had to take off, but it was the difference between the trigger not working at all and functioning perfectly

The most annoying part was troubleshooting what the issue was and then assembling reassembling every time I sanded a tiny bit to function test and make sure I didn’t take off too much

>>64927638
maybe they cut it wrong? that would be so weird though

Anyone know if the magpul mp5 lower could work with the ss?

>>64928195
none with any released, but it's possible with the new ASD, it's not yet released yet though

Vz.61 anon any updates? This is the frt I most look forward to.

Will it be 3 position?

bump

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>>64903292
its fantastic but you need to keep your fgc Hella clean or it will malfunction constantly

>>64931586
3 round burst sucks, the mechanism is super finicky, and I fucking want one so bad.

>>64932424
what do you think about 2 round or 4 position?

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These are ILLEGAL. I'm telling the ATF on ALL of you.

>>64932467
Same and same

Anyone else having their super safety cause the BCG to cycle too far back and get stuck while on super safe but function perfectly fine on semi auto? I've tried carbine, h2, h6 and h3 buffers.

>>64932506
Add a couple of quarters in the buffer tube behind the spring.

>>64932529
Ill give that a try. Spring not strong enough regardless of buffer weight I guess?

ASD release the 45/90 levers you cucks

>>64932533
The BCG travels too far back causing it to get stuck. This vid explains it.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1fqkdWmscbk

>>64932549
Ah that makes sense. Thank you

>>64932535
I need them new selectors for my mp5 build

Any FRTs in development for the VHS-2/Hellion? I'd figure since its a Psuedo-HK trigger pack there'd be some news on it but I've not heard anything. Know anything bullpup is a special challenge too.

>>64933068
In very very early dev with no shoot yet (or probably anytime soon)
The Hellion is seriously hampered due to an unavailability of parts - even wear item parts - Springfield wants you to send the gun back for all maintenance beyond cleaning. The Kuna is suffering from the same bs.
The biggest news in VHS space is an aftermarket G36/VHS mag well was released because Springfield simply would not import them

>>64933220
Well aware of the parts issue with the Hellion, got a 16" when it first released but dying to get my hands on a 20" barrel.

I've been waiting on a G36 magwell for it too, but afaik the only magwell out there is the Lunartech one which I thought only supported the actual VHS mags? Was there a newer release than that?

I also have a tommybuilt G36 I'm waiting on an FRT for. I know GDI has one but I'm not paying 600 bucks for a new-to-market unproven design in a lower that looks like a bad 3D print I could just print myself.

>>64933220
who is making it? you got a link or something? I'll update it in the github list

bump

Advanced reset tech released their FRT for the MP5 .22lr, it's on their site.

there is a scam site that's name the similarly, please be careful out there and make sure you're on the correct site if you consider a purchase.

Why does everybody hate rare breed now? I've seen youtube comments calling them rare greed. Haven't browsed this shithole board since 2022

>>64937289
They cucked to the ATF and now sue any and all FRT/SS sellers

>>64937311
Fuck em then

>>64937342
They're also currently in court against Hoffman
https://youtu.be/USf4WnbwdJA?si=EN7CYmqhJWxtAnMC

>>64937289
They are teaming up with the ATF to impede FRT development in general and sellers

Bump

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Waiting on ASD's drop in roller FRT pack. The Raregreed one seems like it is doing okay, but very hesitant to give them any business at all.

Also waiting on a legit complete FCG and cam three position AK FRT SS setup.

>>64939471
>three position AK FRT SS setup.
same, I swear this was teased by several parties. maybe something at kalashbash

>>64939471
>>64939530
>three position AK FRT
So fucking cool. My two dream guns have always been an early pattern M16 and an AKM in full auto, soon the average American will be able to own close approximations of both. Sadly I'm a leaf but I hope one day I'll be able to buy them.

>>64940314
it's not FA

>>64940348
>approximations

>>64933310
VHS-2 mags = G36. AFAIK one is just a bit thicker than the other so you might need a file if the magwell is tonight.
>>64933644
I forget if it was on Arfcom or reddit (r/VHS2_Hellion) it basically boiled down to " I'm working on it" and it discussed the issues. The platform is extremely hampered by parts availability, esp considering we could be looking at a whole pack swap
If it ever advances into a shooting prototype it will be FRT only.
Issues boik down to:
>can't get parts
>safety/selector with linkage varies greatly from other bullpups and there is little for an FRT to interface with to make the selector anything more than SAFE/SEMI unless we're talking about the current AUG SS - drilling.
There isn't alot of space for that though, and the buttstock/recoil system combo
>the bolt release is in the WORST possible location (directly under the bolt when opened) Meaning the bolt is cut at the rear bottom to interface with the front of the trigger pack, which has a pivoting "lug" which interacts with the bottom of the bolt.
>Trigger pack has a fixed lug mounted rear which goes through the bottom of the reciever, and the front pivoting bolt catch lug - its not going to be AUG/P90 tier easy to just squirt a trigger pack housing and one of the lugs is plastic and metal.

The existence of the upcoming G36 FRT is extremely good news for the platform though, as the VHS borrows alot more from the G36 internally than any other gun

Stupid question but I dont see why it wouldn't work. Would the Geissele SSF or anyo other similar trigger, if any exist, work with a SS? Meaning the 2 stage on semi, 1 stage on 3rd pos

>>64903576
Almost nobody who was issued an A4/M4 ever used three round burst besides maybe once or twice in infantry school, trust me. The chief complaint with burst is that the cam is engaged on the extra finger on the disconnector even during semi auto fire, so you get three noticeably different trigger behaviors when you're trying to take well aimed shots, either on the flat range or at close quarters distances. It sucks all around. Imagine doing a mozambique at 15y and your head shot is a gritty vague trigger pull every time.

>>64940664
Well maybe, but be careful for accidental full auto, I'm pretty sure if you just put the full auto trigger group in (implying you have a m16 trigger) you would just get an unsafe machine gun. You can do this with normal m16 parts, you dont need the full auto sear. What the full auto sear does is wait for the bolt to be closed in order to fire but it's only needed for safe function for possible oob or light strikes.

Anyways I dont have direct experience with the SSF, but would I be wary of it to be honest. There are FRTs that uses m16 parts, but I assume they use a normal disconnector, but sure, try it, maybe it's dope

>>64940878
>(implying you have a m16 trigger)
I meant a m16 selector

>>64940878
>>64940882
Was thinking about trying it out with the ARC since they have normal selectors. Do any SS sellers sell trigger jigs for cutting? I know there are 3d printed ones but I dont have a printer myself

>>64941365
>Do any SS sellers sell trigger jigs for cutting
most do yeah, ARC comes with an already cut trigger as well

Finally actual live shots with the 4 position FRT and in a hoffman lower no less

https://youtu.be/HTkqnc72ESw

>>64941582
None for the SSF though. Wonder if I could get them to cut one i send in since they have the experience. Also turns out Geissele triggers have different dimensions than other triggers so normal jigs wont work

>>64941602
Fuck man I love humanity. Give us an inch and we'll build a skyscraper in it. It took what, a year of frts being absolutely legal and this is the kinda shit we get?

>>64940719
It wasn't even the shitty trigger for me it was the pointlessness of it. Was overkill for a single target and underkill for suppression. When we did switch over I never even used auto for cereal, just mag dumping after qual.

>>64940424
*The buttstock/recoil system combo enshrouds part of the back of the reciever

>>64939471
NGL the rare greed absolutely SLAYS on full size MP5's but seems a bit more choppy/irregular and slower on K's. It's definitely a case where if you have a K you need to be waiting for the ARHK to see what it can do

>>64943332
Not that guy, but why does anyone even care about that crap? I've got an ASD lower with normal SS, and it runs smooth as butter. Not to mention I'd much rather have an AR trigger over the usual shitastic HK triggers.

Is there any potential downside to using an SS safety detent with a normal selector? Took out my SS because I hate the push button safety and I don't know where I put the old detent. I will be getting an ARC soon though

>>64943977
it's for autist cloners

>>64943980
The SS detent is rounded so it probably working work well but try it out

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Genesis Gen-12 w/ EVT 3-position FRT

That's a lot of buckshot at that speed

>>64943977
Niether the rare greed nor the ARHK are "stock" triggers, the rare greed is in the 5lb range

Page 9 bump

Getting the AZ Regulator, anyone had any issues with theirs?

WHERE'S THE NEW ARC FIRE AND MP5 DROP IN ASD!?

>>64947260
I think for the most part it's just turn key, although I heard there was some leg fitting needed for some people

PSR reviewing the canik FRT

https://youtu.be/PFrUj24HkmY

Garand thumb goes over the fn specialties/dorin ps90 frt

https://youtu.be/4S-CuEpAfbg

>>64947374
they may be working on a frt for the scar

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I dont post a lot of fosscad/3d2a stuff, but a trip is being made for unseenkiller's pwc series of lowers that uses mac uppers and parts. The difference between this and a mac n cheese or a db alloy is that is doesn't use a AR FGC.

I'm thinking on including these types of projects in the github list somehow

>>64947374
Great, if you want to pay and wait. I WAITED WEEKS ON END before asking for and receiving my refund. Illjust order when they are finally ready to ship shit out.

I'm just going to order an Arizona Regulator.

>>64947532
as much as I've seen, it's a good and reliable device, runs on all lowers, shelf doesnt matter and has 3 position options

this comment >>64947336 was for this >>64947025

>>64947551
Does it use the mil spec 3 position lever or the ones made for the kabuto?

>>64947594
It's mil spec, they'll give you one if you order the 3 position version

>>64947374
Fucking pissed this would run up the price of P90's and FRT's, but I'm honestly glad he said "Straight blowback" in total error, hopefully that keeps some of the tards looking towards the cheaper lelkek and the S&T conversion

If I've read correctly (probably not, don't read things late at night when sleep deprived from insomnia and/or have beers in you), but the Rarebreed FRT ruling implies that if you have a FRT that violates Rarebreed's patent possession/use of said not-Rarebreed's FRT is illegal. Also apparently it's not even Rarebreed's patent, someone else owns it they just licensed it? I'm assuming that's a part of the Rarebreed-SuperSafety/Hoffman lawsuit, other than being as scummy as it is. What is actually patented though? Just the concept of an FRT or the actual mechanical components?

>>64947745
The P90 is straight blowback dumbfuck, you're thinking of the Five Seven which is delayed.

>>64947745
I dont think it would run up the price since the FRT and the gun itself are expensive. The AR platform in general didnt increase in price with RB was initially introduced.

>>64901159
>Can meatball desantis push to repeal the retarded bumpstock and incendiary bans already?
Decuntis approved of that law

>>64900799
>so when they roll out the cuck firmware that stops guns from being printed, I wont be affected
You have no idea how your printer works if you think that's possible. There's no possible way for it to know the difference between gcode for a razor holder for your shower and gcode for a shitty glock clone frame

which is easier to get running; pembie's glock or the toro? and can i run the pembie out of a rxm?

>>64947882
in the link of the post, it has a lot of information in it. Basically with the firmware that they are perposing, they could log more detailed information about what is printed, where it was printed and when. They can get this information from slicers, camera using A.I. whatever. I'm assuming there is a db of just known files or something and it can be recognized that way using hashes or something. I'm fully aware if you changed anything the hash would be different I'm just throwing out something that makes a bit or sense to me.

The link in the post has more information but in reality, open source printer firmware do exist and many slicers are open source so there would always be an avenue for printing.

>>64947921
toro, glock FRTs are pretty fickle and requires technique to get running well

>>64947860
It's barrel delayed, the barrel reciprocates a few milimeters back before the bolt separates from it, when pressure has dropped a bit, the barrel has a spring which returns it to the forward position

>How effective is it?
Honestly not nearly as much as Roller or lever delayed blowback, and it correspondingly has to have a higher bolt weight, but it is more effective, and much simpler, than off-axis "delaying" systems like the Kriss vector

>>64947956
It would literally have to render a model and send it out to a model that has an existing knowledgebase on what gun parts look like, this is not possible to implement into the firmware of existing printers, they do not do that, they just interpret gcode instructions. The computer in your printer's control box is extremely primitive, it cannot take that gcode and render it into a solid model then do analysis on it.

>>64947989
Yeah that makes sense. Thank you for that. I'm curious as to why organizations are so keen and confident that it can be done comprehensibly though.

>>64948000
Because they're retards who don't know what they're talking about or they just want to kill the printer market by tripling the price of consumer printers by forcing makers to include what is basically a small version of your PC in the control unit instead of something comparable with an old arduino.

>>64948023
Since it's possible that printers have network capabilities, do you think it's possible that future firmware will send the gcode to a server, the server does render it or something then reports that the print is bad, then stops the print?

I'm new to 3d printing so sorry if these questions seem retarded.

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>>64947972
>the barrel reciprocates a few milimeters back before the bolt separates from it
That's what the Five Seven does, not the P90. I can find nothing at all online about this mythical P90 delayed blowback system. There's nothing in the mechanism to hold the barrel and bolt together, as there is on the Five Seven.

>>64948267
You do not need the barrel and bolt to be locked to have the barrel move.

>>64948267
The P90/PS90 has a barrel shroud and an inner barrel, you wonder what that's for? Mounting muzzle devices and protecting the reciprocating inner barrel!

What the animation doesnt capture is Barrel movement is minimal, ie under a few millimeters.
Actual delaying is minimal - more effective than a blish lock (lol) or off axis bolt nonsense (straight blowback down/up a hill) and the P90's bolt weighs almost as much as an unloaded FiveSeven - we're talking under a 20% reduction here.

The 5-7 is lever delayed and the barrel tilts

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>>64948275
>the barrel reciprocates a few milimeters back before the bolt separates from it
You would need some way of holding the bolt and barrel together, this is exactly the mechanism on the Five Seven, and it uses a little locking piece to do this. You can't show me where that piece is in a P90, and you can't show me the barrel return spring you mentioned, because they don't exist. I just checked, the FN website describes the Five Seven as delayed blowback, and the P90 as just blowback. If it was delayed, they would obviously say so.

>>64948375
>protecting the reciprocating inner barrel!
See above.
>The 5-7 is lever delayed and the barrel tilts
Completely wrong, the barrel goes straight back, and I don't know what exactly it's called but it's not lever delayed.

>>64948433
>You can't show me where that piece is in a P90, and you can't show me the barrel return spring you mentioned, because they don't exist.
NTA, but I do own a PS90 and have SBR'ed it so I know you are a retard.

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/F811620010?srsltid=AfmBOoqsIyygzsR_glN-W_AEvbZkQhgdJOKsL1AwVQRekGnAfMvBexyG

>>64948433
>You would need some way of holding the bolt and barrel together
No you don't. They are both recoiling together so they stay in relative position until the barrel stops.

>>64948458
I don't know what that part does, but it's not part of any delaying mechanism, or FN would describe it as delayed on their site, and I could find even a single source describing how this system works.

>>64948510
>They are both recoiling together
If they stayed together on their own, the Five Seven wouldn't need that piece holding them together. In fact no gun would need a locking or delaying system at all, just a reciprocating barrel. The bolt travels back with the barrel a short distance, they're held together by magic, pressure drops to a safe level, the bolt separates and cycles. Genius!

>>64948610
>don't know what that part does
You've already established you're an idiot. No need to keep repeating yourself.
>Five Seven wouldn't need that piece holding them together.
It's locked breech because it doesn't have the mass to be blowback. You can get away with less pieces when you're using the magic of inertia and mass.

>>64948610
They don't describe it as Straight blowback nor do they describe it as Delayed Blowback, the actual delay is minimal, just enough to stop the bolt from needing to be 2.5lbs+ (it's 1.5lbs) when combined with the relatively stiff dual recoil springs and the anti bolt bounce counterweight,

The barrel moves rearward and pushes back on the bolt, increasing dwell time and reducing recoil forces. It's not a locked system.

It's delayed in the sense that recoil is actually being delayed somewhat, unlike a fixed barrel simple straight blowback.
It's the simplest form of delaying, and it only has one real wear item part (barrel return spring) and is much less effective than conventional delayed blowback systems - so why is it there - it's not to control recoil forces it's for:
1: Keeping overall weight down
2: Lightening the reciprocating mass
3: Lowering the cyclic rate

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>>64948656
>It's locked breech
It's delayed blowback, per FNs website. Unlike how they describe the P90.

>>64948849
>the actual delay is minimal
That is true of the Five Seven's mechanism, which their website describes as delayed blowback. So why wouldn't they call a minimally delayed P90 "delayed blowback" as well? Curious.
>it only has one real wear item part (barrel return spring)
So you still think the bolt and barrel magically stick together as they travel backwards, something not observed in any other firearm in existence? That this one weird trick has created the world's simplest delayed mechanism, yet nobody acknowledges it, even FN themselves?

>>64948610
>I could find even a single source describing how this system works.
Barrel moves back, pushing bolt during the worst part of the recoil impulse.
Barrel has limited travel, it stops. Bolt keeps moving. Barrel return spring begins returning barrel to forward position. Bolt finishes job (if necessary due to wear).
If the barrel cannot be moved forward the gun cannot be in full battery. If the barrel return spring is significantly worn, rate of fire may increase.
Considering this system has a minor delaying effect, it has a anti bolt bounce device which is also functionally a counterweight, slowing the bolt down further as it moves.

Many delayed blowback firearms have anti bolt bounce devices (such as the .223 and .308 HK roller guns), whereas (but not universally) straight blowback SMG's usually employ rate reducers and/or are technically API blowback ((advanced primer ignition)

>>64948909
The FiveSeven is only marginally heavier empty than the P90's fully assembled bolt, thats why.

>So why wouldn't they call a minimally delayed P90 "delayed blowback" as well? Curious.
Because the delay is minimal

The FN P90 and PS90 utilize a unique s blowback system with a floating barrel that recoils slightly, which aids in delaying the opening of the action to manage the high-pressure 5.7x28mm cartridge. This system, often misidentified as strictly locked-breech or roller-delayed, operates with the barrel and bolt moving backward together momentarily, ensuring reliability.

Key Aspects of the P90/PS90 Delayed Action:
Operating Principle: While technically a type of straight blowback, the barrel moves roughly 0.030 inches before unlocking, acting as a "delayed" blowback.

Floating Barrel: The barrel is not rigidly fixed to the receiver but instead held by a spring-loaded system that allows this slight backward movement.

Role of Muzzle Device: On the PS90, the barrel shroud/muzzle device is essential for maintaining the correct pressure on the barrel and spring, critical for proper, reliable, and safe operation.

Operation vs. Five-seven: Unlike the P90, the FN Five-seven pistol uses a true locked-breech delayed blowback system to handle the same cartridge.
SBR Conversion: When converting to a Short Barreled Rifle (SBR), ensuring the new 10.4" barrel is installed with correct torque and allows for proper "float" is essential for maintaining this delayed action.

Is it only some SS kits that are finicky? Ive heard that you need to pull them in a certain way but I can squeeze mine hard and it fires no problem

>>64948949
You should probably check the writeups for PS90 barrel removal/installs
Considing you can absolutely fuck up the barrel installation, causing the gun to beat itself to death, and groups to go from 3MOA to 30MOA

>>64948966
I never had that problem

>>64948971
meant for >>64948924
It's more of a delayed blowback than the super V off axis nonsense

>>64947958
how is the canik frt compared to the glock? might pick up a mete sft since its ~200 less than the toro

>>64949005
I havent using the canik FRT but it uses the same tilting barrel reset method as the glock so id imagine would still require some technique

>>64937289
A lot of people in this space are lolbert or lolbert adjacent and do not believe in intellectual property at all. As such they get booty blasted whenever someone enforces a patent. It's also a little bit of poorfag sour grapes since RB is more expensive than the alternatives. As a raresneed owner myself I like the product, it works and has survived 2k rounds.Customer service is also good in my experience as they resolved a weird shipping issue I had almost instantly. I will be buying from them again.
>>64937311
>>64937444
Rarebreed is literally the reason FRTs are legal right now. Their lawsuit with the ATF is what got the ATF to settle and admit FRTs aren't machine guns. Part of that settlement was Rarebreed agreeing to enforce their patent, which they have the right to do anyway. There is not "partnership" with the ATF. You don't have to like them or buy from them, but you do have to admit they put up the initial risk on this and wanting a return on the risk isn't unexpected.

>>64949015
how bad is it really? im not looking to carry the thing. i shoot da/sa so im used to weird triggers

>>64949094
>Rarebreed is literally the reason FRTs are legal right now. Their lawsuit with the ATF is what got the ATF to settle and admit FRTs aren't machine guns. Part of that settlement was Rarebreed agreeing to enforce their patent, which they have the right to do anyway. There is not "partnership" with the ATF. You don't have to like them or buy from them, but you do have to admit they put up the initial risk on this and wanting a return on the risk isn't unexpected.
oh yeah for sure, I do give them credit for that, but the ATF does have an interest in lowering any other FRT devices and using RB to do it via lawsuits

>>64949121
For glock anyways it required a lot of playing around with springs then fitting the trip and changing the connector or using a section 8 housing. Basically I finally got it to work for me and my friends through a ton of trial and error. What worked for me wasnt working for them etc. but I finally got it in a space which works for everyone and it's very fun to shoot honestly. Taking the technique out of handgun FRTs are really tough, the only one that worked immediately was the TX22. I heard the Rock 5.7 was pretty intuitive to shoot as well though.

>>64948924
>Barrel moves back, pushing bolt
What's making it move back? The barrel wants to move forward upon firing, not back. Only when the bolt and barrel are locked or quasi-locked together does the barrel move backwards (as in a Five Seven). You seem to have the same idea as the other guy that bolts and barrels magically stick together despite having thousands of pounds of force trying to pull them apart. It's nonsense.
>straight blowback SMG's usually employ rate reducers and/or are technically API blowback
None of that is true.

>>64948949
>The FN P90 and PS90 utilize a unique s blowback system with a floating barrel that recoils slightly...
Do you have a source for this description or is it AI slop?

>>64949141
thanks for the info

Question for you fullsize AP5 fags.
The default locking piece for an AP5 is like 120. Should I drop it to 100 for shooting with the Leber v2 and a suppressor?
I know it matters a lot for the short mp5s, but does it really matter for the fullsize?

>>64949268
I thought 100 was what people recommended by default? If it runs well for you, I wouldnt change anything

>>64949204
The barrel return spring sits behind the barrel shroud in the front of the reciever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09CPH73rq3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlc-Cz3t_Ps

Heres a link to the armorers manual, barrel return spring is part #162
https://www.scribd.com/document/357548448/133052693-Fn-P90-Armorers-Manual-pdf

>>64949268
Last I checked they only get fiddly on the K and SD variants.

bump

>>64948433
>You would need some way of holding the bolt and barrel together
The 5.7 cartridge has no taper, which makes for very difficult extraction (hence the mythical coating). The lack of taper makes it stick to the chamber walls especially under high pressure. This is what causes the barrel to move rearward.

looks like 1441recoilsystems is selling the mpa frt. I wonder if they worked to fix the oob issues

Ah shit I hate being an obtuse retard. Please forgive me. With that said, I’m lost in the ocean of product. I want to get an FRT for my AR. I bought the completed rifle from V seven. What do I get? So may options. I’m not looking to do anything on the cheap or to cut corners I just want complete system. Are all options good to go and I just need fo pick one?

>>64954346
Arc fire trigger and probably and h2 buffer

>>64954346
ARC fire allows you to use many triggers like Geissele triggers. If you dont care about any of that, the Partisian trigger is good too and yeah get a h2 buffer

Bamp

>>64954420
>>64954433
I ordered ARC and H2 buffer Ty

Bump

Anyone used the m&p FRT? I wanted to know if it needs any technique like the glock FRT

Ordered an AS Designs ARC setup for my AP5-P (turk MP5K-PDW clone). Do I need to change anything in order to avoid damaging my receiver or rollers or whatever through rapid fire? I have heard some say that a different extractor and/or locking piece is important, but I have heard others say that these changes are only needed when a suppressor is also in use or in order to lower the risk of annoying jams as opposed to outright permanent damage. Does anyone here know?

>>64960065
make sure the locking piece is what people recommend, you dont want it to run too fast, that would damage the rollers.

I believe 90 or 100 is good to go but do your research

locking piece is like a gas valve, higher the angle the faster the bolt unlocks and higher the rof, too low then it would malfunction

>>64961382
I had text to this and it's gone

Anyways from last thread the super safety handgun chassis, this is dry fire footage

>>64960065
Generally you want 90-100 for a K, 100-110 for regular, and 115-120 for an SD.

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Pretty hyped for the PSA MP7 clone, the 5.7 Rock FRT is good to go!

>>64948000
They are retarded politicians who want to be seen doing "something" to destroy 2A.

>>64948068
No, the code is just a series of coordinates. Firearms are comprised of a many individual components which themselves are indistinguishable from any other random widget's components. Is that a takedown pin for a 3D AR, or a pin for a child's fidget toy? In practice it would result in thousands of false positives for every actual firearm manufacturing attempt.

If they can't stop me from cracking the firmware of my blu-ray RWD to rip blu-rays, they're not going to be able to stop anyone with even the slightest motivation from cracking any theoretical anti-firearm firmware.

>>64962249
you made me feel a lot better, thanks anon

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>>64940424
VHS-2 and G36 mags have distinctly different geometry. A G36 mag simply is not compatible with a VHS-2 magwell

>>64961382
>>64961449
looks like the guy making this that does AUG FRT stuff is developing a progressive trigger version

>>64962397
Why did they do this when they already had G36 in inventory? Plus some of the VHS-1/2 seen in croat service clearly have G36 magazines ie the g36 adapter.
Is it a case of "we can do better"? Because magpul already perfected the G36 magazine

poorfag here. What's the best way to get a 22 AR upper that will run reliably with arc fire/SS?

>>64965595
check borebuddy for all the information you need really, they have more detail honestly

>>64965595
Of you don't mind paying the extra money, I recommend just getting their complete 22lr upper from bore buddy with trip and everything if you don't already have a 22lr nolt. It takes out all of the work. Otherwise get the ar22 bundle for whichever super safety/frt you are using.

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>>64967464
>>64967456
>>64967446
https://x.com/MakoMakt/status/2032588050715287795#m

Another p90 FRT video, seems like a lot of reviewers have it. I preordered day one and dont have it yet

https://youtu.be/MPALSRj4tPo

>>64967446
>>64967456
>>64967464
>>64967473
this guy is a pants-on-head deranged tranny lmao

>>64967944
probably, why do you say that?

>>64968076
>she/her pronouns in bio
>on his YouTube his voice is modulated/fucked up as he tries to pretend to be a woman
lolbert freaks belong in mental asylums

>>64968170
I personally dont think them being trans is relevant to them showing FRT footage for a new and interesting platform. If the information is bullshit, then that would matter to me.

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>>64968188
Consider refraining from reproduction, should the opportunity present itself.