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Unimplessive
>>64909774NNOOOO IT WAS A SETUP THEY WERE PAID JOBBERS
Iran lost because they didn't conduct the first strike.
Idgi, how are they supposed to prevent Iran from getting rekt anyway
>>64909783China will lose too, if they don't attack first.
>>64909787>China will lose too, even if they attack first.ftfy
>>64909789China is very likely to win, if they go all in first.
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>>64909804That's what the Japs thought. Just sink a few big ships and Uncle Sam will throw his hands up and go home.
So do we have footage or what?
>>64909821https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/02/28/world/iran-strikes-trump>inb4 NYtimesThey're just collating AP wire reports, no opinion pieces or any such, so a pretty decent way to follow everything that's getting released in a fairly reliable manner. If you want to see the explosions, I'm sure they're getting posted in Xitter unless Iran cut out the internet again.
Based, my energy and MIC-stocks needed another little bump.
>>64909813to be fair, back then uncle sam had the industrail capability and the manpower to do so, unlike today.
>>64909813The Japs had a much smaller manufacturing base than the US. Relatively speaking, China is not in the same position. Also the Japs weren't exactly convinced they could win, they just thought it was preferable to try than surrender to economic sanctions.
>>64909780They deployed shahed clones to the middle east, I wonder if they've been used yetIt sounded like they were used in Venezuela, you can hear the whine of the engine in one of the videos
>>64909774>Trump: We're going to annihilate their navyohnonono
>>64909813Japs couldn’t compete with US shipbuilding or industrial output. In case of China it’s reversed.
>>64909774We'll be accepting those concession forms now.
>>64909841And as we're about to get yet another demonstration of, modern wars aren't fought with attrition and industrial might of years of production, they're fought in a couple of weeks of high intensity shootouts between what you've already got built and stockpiled. Would you like to guess who's has the largest airforce, navy, naval aviation arm, submarine force, and so on at the moment? That's before we even start talking about quality where we're getting some excellent talking points from Iran and Venezuela getting dunked on, much less the slavic bumfight in Ukraine where NATO's outdated scraps are proving to be worth their weight in gold.
>>64909860>they're fought in a couple of weekstwo*
thought Trump wouldn't go full retard, guess I was wrong
>>64909774No one knows what is going on.This is not a game retards, so stop acting like it is a game.
>>64909880you mean full based
>>64909881You're on 4chan faggot
>>64909881>4chan is srs bsns
>>64909881NO REFUNDS
>>64909860>anon circa July 1914 explaining how the Zulu Wars and Boxer Uprising showed that the war will be over by Christmas
>>64909880Eh, he didn't go full retard in Venezuela. Things won't start to go badly in the short term unless he starts putting boots on the ground in numbers, and I'm very skeptical that this is going to happen no matter what Israel wants. Trump is likely to want another propaganda win just like Midnight Hammer and the funny oil man snatch, even if it doesn't fix anything long term.
>>64909856>s-300Wouldn't s-400 be more appropriate
>>64909831Iran cut the internet, again. The only thing getting out is probably by satellite. If I had to guess, the US Navy is concentrating on Iran's Navy and anti-ship missiles and missiles capable of hitting Israel. None of the countries in the area allow the US Military to use the bases or over flight. I have no idea why this shit started with the USS Ford CSG on the wrong side of the Suez Canal. I would expect the Egyptians to close the canal to US warships, so that means half of the US Navy's ships are only good for defensive operations. There will probably not be enough mass in the first waves to do jack shit for damage. Maybe Israel fucked us or Cencom is run by a retard. This is not the way a first strike is supposed to go. Nothing shock and awe about this so far, just piddling around.
>>64909895>anon circa 1991, 2001, and 2003 explaining how World War 2 and Korea showed wars will last forever
>>64909899Iran's gonna fix itself. They're way to fucked up to make it through this generation as they have. In the meantime, the biggest concern is just keeping the Iranian state from making a very fucking messy desperation play.
>>64909856It was on sale, Mr Wongs big candy mountain and firework factory said it was fucking great
Centcom is commanded by a squid... and a surface warfare squid at that. Not even a flyboy squid. This shit is doomed. The US Navy fucks everything up it touches.
Someone add Ayatollah to the "not happy Amazon reviewer" shitpost
>>64909902I can imagine they're operating through Turkish airspace and that allows them to strike at a different set of targets then everyone in the Arabian. Israel also flew through Iraqi airspace during their war with Iran, and I can't imagine Syria is capable of stopping the US either if they want to use the airspace beyond a strongly worded letter. I can easily believe there was a deal struck with the new Syrian government to allow US operations in exchange for helping to legitimize them, and the Taliban have their own border war with Pakistan at the moment that is probably more important then the US flying overhead and honestly might be to their benefit since I can't imagine the US is going to be happy about non-US strike craft being in the airspace.
>>64909921>operating through Turkish airspaceTurks hate the USA. Turks also require a big bribe to do anything.>Israel also flew through Iraqi airspaceIsrael does not give a fuck about anything other than Israel.>Syrian governmentIrrelevant. Jorden and Iraq would be the pathway from Israel to Iran.>TalibanCompletely irrelevant. That would be the longest most retarded route. The USS Ford SCG being in the med makes it completely useless to protect/ support the Lincoln CGS against Naval threats from Iran and also whomever else is going to jump it. Also Yemen is going to join up with Iran. If China or someone else things they are going to throw a sub into the mix to be sneaky, then that leaves the Lincoln CGS exposed.
>>64909944Turks are military allies of the United States you third world fuckwit>chinese submarines attacking a US carrier groupI really fucking wish a nigga would, but I question what kind of life you have to lead to even consider this possibility, let alone come up with it unprompted
>>64909944>Turks hate the USA. Turks also require a big bribe to do anything.Carrot and stick like anything else, I wouldn't be surprised to see a MIC purchase from Turkey by the US in the near future but they are a NATO partner>Israel does not give a fuck about anything other than Israel.Donald Trump's US mil can also going to be that ego-centric, especially with thirdie nations that don't have a good relationship with the US to worry about ruining, like Iraq and Syria atm.>Naval threats from Iranlol and lmao, is that you Van Ripper?>Yemen is going to join up with IranYemen is incapable of doing anything more then shooting at random shipping with Iranian supplied missiles, and that spigot just got shutoff. I do hope they hit another humanitarian aid shipment headed to Iran for old time's sake before they run out, though.>If China or someone else things they are going to throw a sub into the mix to be sneakysee my comments about naval threats from Iran, but even harder and louder
>>649098411 F-35 every other day.We are still in peacetime production.When war erupts F-35A F-35C will get their dedicated high push jets.And the productin will ram up.Go for it chinkie, i dare you!Sent from my bombshelter
>>64909944>China or someone else things they are going to throw a sub into the mix to be sneakyWhy do you thirdies keep thinking China will lift a finger for you? They have no interest in destroying their country for your sake.
>>64909958>Turks are military alliesretard. The USA does not have allies, only parasites. Chinese said they would protect Iran. >Niggathat is what you seem to be. Go watch some NBA or something.
>>64909991>Chinese said they would protect Iran.Well? Where are they?
>>64909991Where Chinese protection?
>>64909991>Chinese said they would protect Iran.i seem to remember that Russia said they would protect vuvuzela as well
>>64909958Not him, but are you old enough to remember what the Turks did in '03 and how that affected things?
>>64909965Iran has some subs and some surface ships and a swamp of little shitty boats that can launch anti-ship missiles. A carrier airwing is going to be spread really thin going on offensive strikes and defensive at the same time. A retard like you does not know jack shit, so STFU.Yemen is cable of launching drones and missiles at ships and also Arabs and Israel. That means those targets need to be destroyed. Having 1 CSG with maybe 48 F/A-18 is a little thin for the threats in the area and also needing to go offensive. You cannot see a flag on a sub, retard. There are also USVs to add to the threat list. Chinks would love to damage a carrier.
>>64909991>retard. The USA does not have allies, only parasites.US tankers were landing in Israel bases after ferrying the attack aicraft.I wish you weren't so stupid.
>>64910020>swampswarm
>>64910019NTA, but I'll take this. Turks are like Jeets: a giant fucking pain in the ass on the day-to-day, but a big enough help for The Big One that it's worth putting up with their bullshit.
>>64910020The CSG isn't in the strait you fucking imbecile. It's 300 miles offshore somewhere in open water.
>>64909991An American working at McDonald's makes 20,000,000 rial an hour. The average Iranian makes 200,000 an hour. Which one would China like to sell a TCL TV or washing machine to and who do you think they would defend?
>>64910030This was always really funny to me. All the armchair analysts going "oh the US couldn't possibly pick a fight with Iran, the gulf is a shooting gallery!", seemingly completely unaware that aircraft carriers don't have to go into the gulf.
Where is the Shahid Bagheri? Is it safe? Is it all right?
>>64909996>>64910006>>64910010We are talking about months of air strikes, retard. The small forces in the area, especially the inability to use land bases will mean the US Navy is going to be the offensive force. The US navy has to paly offensive force and defensive at the same time. It will take months of airstrike to attrite Iranian forces for a internal takeover. >>64910022What the fuck does that even mean retard? Military aircraft moving around the world means jack shit to the actually shooting part of a war. BFD some Brits and Portuguese, et al let the US Military peacefully land and gas up on the way to the middle east. The Israelis, Saudis, Qatar, et al are all too happy for the US Government to waste billions on defending them, while also telling the US Government the terms of it, as in not allowed offensive action from those bases.
>>64910020>Iran has some subs and some surface ships and a swamp of little shitty boats that can launch anti-ship missilesHoly shit, it is Van Ripper risen from the grave. Do you think Iran's subs are going to get past USN ASW patrols, or that their fucking glorified speedboats are going to somehow manage to sneak all the way down to CSGs that they aren't even going to be able to locate?>Yemen is cable of launching drones and missilesHouthi, let's be clear since they're not the official government of Yemen, missiles were barely capable of attacking shipping when they got to chose the time and shoot at an unprotected tanker who had it's positional beacon on. They pose zero fucking threat to a CSG operating at full war authority.>You cannot see a flag on a sub, retard.Yea, which is why every sub that isn't the USN's, or strong allies, that tries to operate in the area will have a SSN on it's tail at best and a torpedo up it's ass if it even starts to get too close to the CSG.
>>64910030Subs, small boats, ships, anti-ship missiles, drones, etc can cover 300 miles. KYS for being a useless stupid 60 IQ POS. Also, retard, the US Navy's ship board refueling capabilities are a joke, so how is the F/A 18 going to get from the ship to target in Iran? The CSG will need to be closer than 300 miles for deep strikes. >>64910031Gee, where does China get its oil from retard?
>>64910059>Gee, where does China get its oil from retard?Do you realize this takes all of 5 seconds to google? Fucking thirdies lmao
>>64910059>Gee, where does China get its oil from retard?Not in significant quantities from the most sanctioned 2-bit country on the planet lmao. You're really overplaying your hand here. They buy most of that shit with dollars from ACTUAL countries.
>>64910059>Gee, where does China get its oil from retard?Russia and Saudi Arabia. Malaysia too.Also Chinks are doing their best to build more nuclear reactors. Wish the USA would build more Nuclear reactors too
What will be the cope? Option A :>downgrade export versionOption B::>it was not operate by chink engineersOption C: >they are holding back its true capabilities.
>>64910074What about option D?>I'm not turning on my giant "fuck me with a anti-SEAD missile" switch for the monthly paycheck of 8 cups of rice and a thimble of cooking oil"
>>64909841Back then the US developed the industrial capacity in a very short period.
>>64910045>Do you think Iran's subs are going to get past USN ASW patrolsAnything is possible. That is why Iran's Navy is going to be #1 on the target list for the US Navy.>glorified speedboats>HouthiLarge enough to launch a harpoon or Exocet or whatever anti-ship missile. That is why the US Navy is going to be both defensive and offensive. Hard for the Navy to do that with 48 F/A 18 and maybe a dozen MH-60. There are only about 5 DDG close to the Lincoln CSG. LCS are useless shit, so the 3 in the area will be basically radar picket ships and also targets. BTW, retard, those DDG are also going to be part of the tomahawk strikes. 90 to 96 VLS each is really thin for offensive and defensive. 5 DDG needing to do anti-air, anti-sub, and land attack.Like I wrote, this war or special military operation or whatever is going to take lots of time. Months of time for the enemies to get their shit together. It only takes a few hit to fuck something up and make it withdraw, so obviously defensive is going to take priority over offensive. Seems like 2 or 3 CSGs providing support to each other were/ are needed. 3+ weeks from the USA for the Navy to get a surface ship to the area, and that is if the Suez is usable... and it is a long transit through a very well seen ditch at slow speeds. > that tries to operate in the area will have a SSN on it's tail LMFAO how many US Navy SSN in the area. Navy will not say. I doubt there are 2 and one will be an SSGN.Fucking retard
>>649100666 of those are in a war zone now, subhuman.Iran is also a big part of China's suppliers.
>>64910096>I doubt there are 2 and one will be an SSGN.Are you so dumb and brown that you don't know that CSGs have multiple SSNs assigned as ASW escorts? I'm done arguing with you when you have zero fucking understanding of anything, as shown by you thinking the Iranian navy is going to fucking steam down the Straight, unnoticed by all the ISRT assets in the air and space staring at Iran, and somehow manage to sneak up on a CSG that they have zero fucking ability to even start the kill chain against because they have to find it in open water.
>>64910100Yeah bro I'm sure China is going to start a war with the USA over a country responsible for 10-12% of their oil imports. Definitely. This isn't delusional at all.
>>64910074>Brown muslims don't know how to operate military equipment
>>64910102Ooga booga we go up in fast small ship, hit big slow ship, great victory yay. Iran will win!!!
>>64909944>If China or someone else things they are going to throw a sub into the mix to be sneakyChina, for all their fire and brimstone talk, have no power outside of their own region. If they do throw a sub or two out there, it'll only be for observation and intel gathering at a distance. They're not going to touch off a fucking war over Iran of all places. Not to mention the recent high level military purges Xi was doing, an actual hot military conflict is the last thing the CCP wants until they recover from the purges in top leadership.
>>64909841we're not in any major conflict, we've been in a low steady conflict that doesn't require WWII levels of production. And of course globalization pushed a lot of industry out. If you're comparing everything to china, you have to realize china has been in the dumpster until only 20 something years ago. Most of the country might as well be living like they were pre-sino jap war conditions, except for maybe Shanghai and Hong Kong. They really ramped up industry the last two decades. So of course they pumping shit out at seemingly wartime numbers, they're catching up from centuries of being behind while they got a lot of cash in their pocket.
>>64909991>Chinese said they would protect Iran.China also has a Nuclear Umbrella Treaty with Ukraine yet when Putin's friends were saying NOOK NOOK NOOK and people turned to China going>Hey your treaty says you gotta step in here since Russia is threatening to nuke Ukrainethey went>Errr ummmm errrr well uummm errr under ummm err certain circumstances um ererrrrr
>>64910128>Hong KongDoesn't count since it was a Bong colony that China tricked into getting because the Bongs are retarded moralists.
>>64909774CRESTS! BUMTOUCHING CRESTS!
>failHow do you figure?
