>>64913086
Threadly question: How would you bould a (8-14 man) squad for operating operationaly on the otherside?

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WHO DARES TO ROUSE ME FROM MY ETERNAL SLUMBE-oh hey, a new thread! Nice!

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Fuck, the stars did align for this one. I don’t have anything ready yet so have some vibes.

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>>64913086
My little brother was making a game about a Zombie apocalypse and asked me to make design the soldier kits.

After thinking about it for second I realised that troops in a zombie apocalypse could look very different to how they do irl.

Plate carriers are useless against zombies because they're probably not gonna be able to bite you head on. protecting limbs and extremities are far more important. You'd be better off saving weight and increasing mobility (which would be essential in my mind, being able to outmanoeuvre the Zombie hoards) by wearing a TAPS rig (or whatever analogue is standard issue) or perhaps wearing a plate carrier without any plates inside.

Now that might be a debatable choice because I imagine in a zombie apocalypse soldiers will also be called to police Raider gangs who would have access to firearms. And given how the American army operates they'd probably force everyone to get armoured up with a full load.

But, it's food for thought, at the end of the day it's the Commander's choice and I think dropping armour does increase your chances against zombies, while decreasing survivability against raiders. In the end it's always a balancing act like irl.

The next one was Special forces kits. In this kind of scenario, SOF would likely be used as a rescue team to save people in areas overrun by zombies. Irl SOF always customise their kit for the mission and this instance they would probably go light for the advantages I mentioned earlier.

They'd drop plate carriers for chest rigs, and probably ditch ballistic helmets for bump helmets since it's not like zombies are going to be firing frag. There is the chance they could go up against raiders but, I think in this scenario (fighting raiders is less likely than fighting zombies imo) SOF would probably just rely on their superior training and firepower. It's also debatable how much frag raiders would have access to. For the most part I think they'd have small arms and weak IEDs

>>64913333

The WWZ book, for all its problems, had the US issuing Kevlar-lined uniforms, not thick enough to stop a bullet but tough enough to resist bites.

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>>64913333
Legitimately just riot gear over CBRN suits should be fine. If it's literally only bites that transmit then the riot gear and fine chainmail like shark suits will both do it. Worst case wear some leather under your chain that has been treated to be waterproof/hydrophobic ensuring saliva and blood never touch skin. Zombies are a threat that would be defeated by super basic medieval armoring and you can still probably wear your carrier over all of it. NOBODY is going to be ditching their bulletproof armor, especially if things are shitty enough for raiders to be an issue.

>>64913466
Interesting, I didn't really consider riot gear but, that's a good shout. Riot gear from every source available source since in this particular scenario (emphasis on the Apocalypse part) the MIC is rendered non functioning in no time.

But, you might also want to think about the amount of ammo carried being sacrificed by the weight of riot gear and the dexterity you loose - I've never wore riot gear and fired a weapon so, I've never worn riot gear but, I imagine it would restrict your weapon handling, dexterity and manoeuvrability a fair bit. I'd rather have more rounds on hand and be able to run around more than potentially running out of ammo in zombie country and being bundled up in riot gear (in an absolute worse case scenario of course).

I myself (since I'm from bongland and we do that) would seriously consider taking the calculated risk or not wearing body armour and just wearing belt kit. But, like I mentioned earlier, you're right, if there's even a 1% chance of encountering armed raiders the command will make everyone wear.

>>64913396
Do you think motorcycle gear works in a pinch?

>>64913091
I imagine, assuming the portals are too small for trucks, you'd either have to have carefully-planned precision strike teams, or send in larger groups to partake in medieval-style looting and pillaging to maintain themselves. Ammunition would be a real problem.

I suppose you could have secrete ammunition/supply caches hidden around on the other side, but the obvious issue there would be locals finding your shit and absconding with it, maliciously or otherwise.

>>64913091
Just a 4 man SAS/Delta patrol should be enough. They would be way more effective than they are irl

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>>64913528
Riot gear is more cumbersome but still typically made with the understanding that it's wearer is likely to have to use firearms like shotguns and tear gas launchers. It's also probably not as heavy as you're thinking. Riot gear is mostly going to stop things like stabs and blunt force. It's mostly padding rather than bulletproof. It's not the minigun armor suit from GTA. It's more like motocross armor than anything. Again, you can also go the chainmail route too making your kit less bulky. Also, it's not going to magically become non-functional. Find a stock of unused riot gear that wasn't subjected to the elements 100 years later and it'll probably still stop a bite just fine. Riot gear's actual weakness is not being full coverage. Chainmail can easily beat it in that regard.

Ideally in the sort of scenario you describe you shouldn't even have to worry about weapon handling against zombies. Everything's gone to shit and now your primary goal is clearing the infestations. The ideal zombie slaughter tactic is what I call dinnerbelling.
>loud noise attracts them to one point in a tight bunch
>click your clacker setting off claymores or whatever then finish off the rest with gunfire
Don't waste your time trying to clear infested structures unless they're actually important. Just light them on fire or blow them up. Your dinner bell can be anything as long as it brings them in. A bomb or grenade, a loudspeaker, loud machinery, whatever. You just need to get them in a bunch. If you only have guns dinnerbelling still works as long as you have good positioning and plenty of ammo. It's basically a noise trap. Worst case it still pulls zombies from an area. The real threat is raiders which means guns.

>>64913552
Usually kevlar lined, often made of leather too, and it's explicitly made to prevent the road from eating you. It ought to work fine. Only issue is coverage. Jacket, pants/chaps and gloves with good boots should be fine.

>>64913255
4binz has been gone for like a year or better sadly

>>64913466
The leather/hydrophobic material would have to be standard as cuts/abrasions are easy to get in infantry situations and that is how you would get infected without a direct bite.

Also cbrn style decon stations in controlled areas once capable incase of accidental mouth ingestion if saliva-saliva contact can cause infection.

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>>64913651
Honestly even good enough "armor" costumes would even work. Well made and suitably thick stormtrooper armor would be pretty much untouchable AND maintain agility. The biggest thing would be making a new helmet with better vision and ventilation. Maybe build a cooling system for the whole thing if you're feeling extra fancy. Best part is you can wear shark chainmail under it instead of a wetsuit like most folks do. You could basically 3d print mostly zombieproof armor all day if you have spools of the right materials.

Coolest thing is a dude actually used stormtrooper armor as a base for a suit of squid armor. The Humboldt squid has a NASTY bite meaning if it's good enough for squid it's good enough for zed.

>>64913117
>splittertarn
>HK33 with the collapsing stock
>some kind of modernized or hybridized Altyn
This is cash money.

Anyone got an archive for the old greentexts?

>>64914060
I'm looking for the skinwalker gf greentexts. I remember reading them years ago but I never saved any

>>64913086
>female infantry
Dropped

>>64913091
time travel back to the 2nd chechen war and collect some russians from a line regiment

Now, youre thinking, what are you going to do with those idiots?
But be real, they already fought in shitholes where improv is survival and are used to being hungry/low on ammo
THESE are the guys you want, not some tier 1 giga chads who never fought on an empty stomach

>>64915496
The reason why I disagree with that is amerifats would forage for food much better than peasant retards could to keep up their weight. Line infantry has their place in fantasy land (against medieval scrubs), but anyone with SERE training would be better imo.

>>64913195
Time to fire up the typewriter anon, the tradition must continue.

>>64920445
I’m working on it. The shift from the average /qst/ format to a regular third person one is proving difficult. But I should have something ready by the end of the day.

>>64913086
Is the other world based on The Grasshopper Lies Heavy? Cause that seems like it would be a fun one to see.

If only GATE were actually good. It fits the theme so well but is objectively such vantablack coal its unreal

The click clack of the rails were the only thing that pierced the silence of the train car as the hoard of boys, each sworn to a different dark lord, rode into the urban battlefield known as New York. The cold December sky was aflame with light as the barriers between worlds melted away. Far above innumerable armadas waged war on each other in an attempt to claim the earth. Mechs line the Hudson, the skyscraper sized machines wrestle with behemoths from the deep as smaller ones fight to contain the madness.

Watching a trio of mechs descend from the heavens above onto the marshes of the Meadowlands, a young boy known as The Jackrabbit watched on with a bored expression as he fidgets with a purple wisp of magic in his hand.

“You think this is it?” A boy sitting across from him asked.

“Fuck if I know. This shit’s big though, might be the largest battle of the war.” Jackrabbit replies.

“Hasn’t it just been street fights until now?” The boy asks.

“No, this war’s been going on before either of us were born. It started back in the 90s, it was hidden back then, it didn't really come out into the open until a few years ago.” Another older boy interrupts.

“Yeah I know that.” Jackrabbit responds, “I’ve been a part of Lord Theogon’s army for five years now.”

“Five years, huh. And with Lord Theogon? Can’t say I’ve heard of him, then again every dark lord, alien empire, fallen kingdom, and whatever else has a vested interest keeping those portals in NYC closed and contained.” The older boy says.

The train was quickly engulfed in darkness as it descended below the Hudson and the besieged city across it.

>>64922405
The scene at Penn Station was madness as train after train arrived depositing more and more fighting boys as poor, cursed, and desperate souls fight against the tide for a way out of the city.

Jackrabbit pushes along with the wave of bodies up the stairs as the ceiling above them shakes and rattles. “The station’s getting hit, double time it people. MOVE MOVE MOVE!” Jackrabbit shouts, adding to the frantic cacophony of the platforms.

As the hoard of boys reached the concourse, they stopped and spread out to find their friends and factions. Nobody wants to face the madness above alone and those without quickly fall in with whoever they can find. Amidst the chaos Jackrabbit can be found waiting out the initial mad dash out of the station on a bench.

He watches the scene around him, the scattering of poor souls who missed the trains seeking shelter in the various kiosks, the paramedics triaging who they can, and the small number of police huddled around trash can fires at the base of the stairs. The wreckage brought to mind the aftermath of 9/11 but the photos shown in class every year pale in comparison to what awaits outside.

“Jesus fuck, this place is fucked.” The older boy from the train exclaims as he walks up to Jackrabbit, his younger compatriot following quickly behind with a few other boys of various ages. “Hey, do you have anybody to fight with or are you solo?” The boy asks, offering his hand to Jackrabbit.

“No, it's just me. I gotta get up to Times Square, you going up that way?” Jackrabbit says, taking the older boy’s hand and pulling himself up.

“Yeah, we're headed up there, good to have you aboard. I’m Mitchell, you’ve met Vadim, and this merry band of gentlemen are Charles, Rico, Gaz, Azad, Yoshi and Mort.” Mitchell says, pointing out each of the boys in his group.

>>64922417
It’s certainly a team Jackrabbit thinks to himself as he takes in the group before him. “ So y'all got space cowboys, a knight, a rando and what are you supposed to be?” You ask, wondering what the quartet's gimmick is.

“Huh, this might surprise you but we are THE NEON SAMURAI!” Mitchell loudly exclaims striking a pose and transforming into a dark green jumpsuit adorned with vaguely japanese designs that glowed bright neon colors.

“Yeah and we're Cosmic Vaquaros.” Charles and Rico exclaimed.

“I thought your kind had giant robots? You guys get wrecked already?” Jackrabbit asked. “It doesn’t matter, I’m The Jackrabbit, but you can call me Rabbit or Bit and I don’t have any transformations.” Rabbit explains.

“It's a long story.” Mitchell says as the station shakes once more. “No time for it now, let's move!” Mitchell shouts panic in his eyes as he charges towards the stairs.

The rest of the boys follow behind him screaming war cries as they go.

>>64922419
As the boys reach street level they witness the destruction before them. A shattered police cordon holds the line amongst the remains of towering skyscrapers. Overhead, vast alien fleets are locked in combat. The ground below shudders as the occasional piece of alien ordnance striking a building below.

The rumbling to tracks interrupts the gawking as an armored convoy rolls up through the cordon.

As the lead APC comes to a stop, a well dressed giant of a man walks out in a full black suit with body armor on top. He looks at the boys and then to the chaos that surrounds him.

The faintest murmurs of “Just like Hawaii.” cross Rabbit’s ears as the man approaches.

He motions to the disembarking soldiers to secure the station. Then takes a knee as he addresses the boys. “Alright what group or groups are you lot with and who are you fighting?” He asks, taking off his sun glasses.

“Whose asking?” Mitchell replies.

“You children may refer to me as RB.” The suit replies. “And I’m required to ask you to go home and let the adults handle this. Instead of going on a supernatural suicide mission.”

“Yeah we’re not going to do that. Because” Mitchell says before the rest of his boys chime in “WE ARE NEON SAMURAI!” As they strike a pose behind their leader.

RM just sighs as he stands and puts his glasses back on. “So what part of this shithole city are you contractually obligated to die in?”

“The NEON SAMURAI march towards the Museum of Modern Art.” Mitchell replies, striking poses as he speaks.

“The Orders of the Twenty Nine Courts are holding the line at Central Park.” Gaz says.

“I have business in Central Park as well.” Mort responds.

“The Galactic Vaqueros ride to the Natural History Museum.” Charles replies, spinning his revolver.

“And you?” RB asks, pointing towards Rabbit.

“I’m trying to reach Times Square.” Rabbit replies.

>>64922422
RB silently looks upon the group for a second before responding. “Alright then Godspeed and good luck. If you run across any civilians, cops, soldiers or anyone else alone. Send them here, the river, or Central Park. Those are the only places that we are reliably able to get people out.”

“Copy that. We’ll do what we can.” Mitchell says before turning to the rest of the boys. “Alright boys, let's do this LEROY JEINKINS.” He shouts before charging into the ruins of the besieged city.

RB facepalms and turns to Rabbit. “Well they’re all going to die.” He says.

“You’re acting like anyone here is going to make it out alive. A lot of contradictory high concept shit if going at the same time and the same place with The City being the center of it. At this point I don’t know if it is better to stop it or just ride it out. Then again I have no idea if either is possible.” Rabbit replies as he tries to run off to catch up with the boys.

Only to be stopped by a firm hand on his shoulder. “Our Master wants to make sure that you can complete your task. And not get side tracked by distractions.” RB says, his voice deeper compared to the prior conversation. “He is aware that you have yet to fail an assignment despite the interference of outside parties. And he has rewarded you accordingly. The moment of victory is almost at hand, do not disappoint.”

“I’ll get it done.” Rabbit replies, frustration dripping out of his voice as the magical array on his arm glows brighter. “I need to get back to the others.”

“You still have complete freedom to achieve your orders as you see fit. But when the time comes, DO NOT HESIATE.” RB replies, taking off his glasses and staring Rabbit dead in the eyes. His pupils glowing a dark purple.

“I will not hesitate. THRAWL.” Rabbit growls. The wind beginning to whip around him as sprints off to rejoin the boys.

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Start arming the local population as soon as possible to contain the sick of the outside(inside?) world. keep the new world free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFSD202Dj78

>>64913117
>hk33 with A3 stocks
I own one and it's a utter joy to shoot full auto.

>>64913552
Absolutely, humans really can't bite that hard. You can always reinforce it with very cheap materials, paper magazines and duct tape, wire mesh, or dog chains.

>>64922755
Good read so far, looking forward to more!

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gonna start building custom M1 Garands in 375 HH Mag for lycanthrope defense and a model in 460 Weatherby mag for defense against the dreaded Alaskan werebear
would also like to do a 585 Nyati lee sporter for cape minotaur

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>>64913086
the return of the fantasy threads?

>>64922873
Even if your clothes protect you from the bite it's no guarantee that it won't still injure you. We can bite pretty damn hard on paper. The trick is your body stops you from going full force destroying your own muscles and teeth. Have to treat zombies the same way you would someone high out of their mind on PCP. The limiters are off and there's nothing stopping them from biting so hard they shatter their teeth an shred their jaw muscles. On the bright side though this means unless they're magical bullshit type zombies they likely have a very limited number of successful bites before they couldn't bite anymore.

>>64935087
>On the bright side though this means unless they're magical bullshit type zombies they likely have a very limited number of successful bites before they couldn't bite anymore.
Magical bullshit meaning here anything more than the magical bullshit allowed by the immutable laws that keep zombies weak and harmless.

>>64937795
Magical bullshit as in "I's a strong inepenant zombie an don nee no muscles."
VERSUS
It's basically just super rabies.

Magical bullshit, like "Return of the Living Dead" or "The Walking Dead" you're probably fucked. Super rabies has a ton of hurdles to even be bad enough to fuck up a neighborhood only being a major threat if the response to the initial outbreak is hilariously incompetent or it's airborne/waterborne rather than spread by bites and bodily fluids. Even then the seasons alone will solve the problem pretty quick. Just because you've got super rabies doesn't mean freezing to death or dying of heat stroke and dehydration stops.

>>64937889
>The Walking Dead
The Walking Dead zombies are weak as shit. Didn't someone decapitate one of them by swinging a fucking chain at it?

>>64913626
You want extra bodies because there's loads of fantasy stuff that just kills you without giving you a chance to realize it's dangerous or even there.

>>64941366
If they can move at all in the same state that you could feasibly do what you describe they are magical bullshit tier as they should be too rotten to move anymore and certainly WELL beyond having a meaningful bite force. "weak as shit" isn't the point, it's that they require a major rewrite or reality to function at all.

Super rabies that makes people hyper aggressive to the point they attack and eat each other is possible on paper. A human body with an extensively destroyed musculature through flesh rot and other damage somehow running a sprint or doing more than a harmless sensual nibbling is just flat not.

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>>64943779
>sensual nibbling

>>64943779
>Super rabies that makes people hyper aggressive to the point they attack and eat each other is possible on paper.
A super rabies that makes people hyper aggressive apocalypse is not however, possible on paper, unless it's so infectious it doesn't require the zombies at all.

This is why gay materialists are cancer for fiction.

>>64944995
It is if it's also airborne/waterborne and/or has a long silent incubation to it is. The trick is it has to spread widely before the first person actually chimps out while not being defeated by a simple round of amoxicillin or other common anti-biotics. Imagine super-rabies that works like shingles lol. Caused by something that when you're a kid is pretty much harmless and most people catch it but decades later it starts causing people to lose their shit.

The whole premise of zombies regardless of type is pretty silly though. The second you realize a zombie has to get in biting, spitting, whatever distance of prey that is better in nearly every way and easily capable of being lethal while still a mile away you realize it's just flat not happening without magical bullshit. Even then we've still got an absolutely insane advantage because we command the might of fire, explosives, and radiation. It'd require MASSIVE across the board incompetence for it to happen.

Radiation isn't used enough in zombie franchises. It's always just nukes when things like "DROP & RUN" rods being used to curtail the crisis by frying zombies with a pudding making level of radiation would be neat.

>>64944995
>It is if it's also airborne/waterborne and/or has a long silent incubation to it is.
Read monkey
>>64944995
>unless it's so infectious it doesn't require the zombies at all.

>>64946037
Lmao selected my own post twice by mistake, you're still wrong though

>>64948273
No clue how I didn't see that because I honestly didn't when I read it the first time.

The point was that's really the only way you get any type of "zombies" irl and that in horror fantasies we have to handicap the shit out of ourselves for them to actually be a threat in the first place and/or you have to make them "special" (the magical bullshit). For a real zombie situation it'd have to be so bad that by the time we realize something's up it's already too late, likely due to bio-terroism with a very heavily engineered and tested disease. You're not getting magical corpses rising from the dead that can somehow move with flesh so rotted there'd be no way it could actually function and you could casually decapitate one by swinging a chain at it. The "Walking Dead" zombies are pure magical bullshit aside from starting with an infectious disease.

>>64948788
Zombie movies used to be creative until the cult of Romero took over everything. Return of the Living Dead,Deadalive, the old italian zombie movies, zombies that talked, planned, ripped through walls, used tools, even teleported. Jason Voorhees was a Zombie. The Mummy was a Zombie. The Deadites were Zombies. Some Zombies used to be able to pass for human and conduct complex plans. In Reanimator, there were psychic zombies, and flying zombies, and exploded organ zombies, and zombies that could punch through concrete.
People are afraid to branch out, the "standard" has been established and now you don't go outside it.

You don't need a disease that kills 90% of the planet when everyone who dies becomes Michael from Halloween. Just let the monster be the monster.

>>64913091
You'd want as eclectic of a loadout as possible to cover as many bases as possible. You need a flame thrower, Anti armor weapons, etc.

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>>64913086
How much firepower do you need to reliably take down a giantess? Asking for a friend.

>>64957261
My research indicates that you can't defeat them

>>64957261
If something is shaped like a human and moves like a human reliably, durability starts to go up extremely fast to compensate with the greater strain on tissues and joints and bones and such.
Even just having the tallest man in human history be able to sprint and jump like a gymnast would require a sharp increase in material strength and that's only like nine feet. You rapidly run into tissues that must be stronger than steel just to sustain themselves, Which means you rapidly exceed modern weapons ability to penetrate deeply.

>>64958836
Yeah, elephants and giraffes have bones of steel and flesh like stone. I've seen these things survive 30mm rounds. Scary stuff. Safaris are no joke.

I had an idea for a story where portals open whatever and after a few years it's determined that's it's not impossibly dangerous. The government then lets you be an independent contractor to travel around on the rough roads transporting things or people or otherwise doing shit that needs to get done. Also you have a gun

>>64952598
People barely remember what Romero's zombies were like. They had some memories of their past lives and there was always a token zombie that remembered how to use tools. Everyone also forgets that Romero directed The Crazies.

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>>64959088
Do I actually have to explain how you misunderstood what I just said or are you just kidding and pretending to be retarded.

>>64959380
Most "cliches" and modern writing conventions are themselves mutations of the original product they're supposedly carbon copies of, that bear little resemblance to them.

>>64913091
With duffel bags full of whatever gets a decent market price per pound on the otherside.

>>64959994
>Missing the point
You're the only one here who insists that giants have to be perfectly proportional to their shorter selves.

>>64913086
bump

>>64913086
>do things for me
No.

>>64962156
>If it's shaped like a human and moves like a human
Holy shit you really are that stupid.