How effective would these things actually be in a military?
>>64939958>just walk away
>>64939958Why not give him a gun?
These things job to a guy/gal who had scarce ammunition looted elsewhereAt $120 million might as well buy a F-35 or 2 F-16s
>>64939958Good for urban warfare but i don't see much use for them in other scenarios. Big, tanky but slow as fuck. Artillery, CAS, HMGs and mines would stop him in his tracks. Also he would be good to fight guerilla forces. Imagine sending few units of it to afghanistan.
>>64939958How would this nigga do in Iran
>>64939958If you had a fireteam of obedient Tyrants, you could have them: (3)1) Maintain surveillance or overwatch. They could provide fire support for conventional infantry, performing like an IFV, (think Bradley or LAV-25). Since their superhuman strength should allow them to manhandle a 20mm cannon at least.2) Have them lead a room breach.3) Have your Tyrant stand smack-dab in the center of the ECP gate when a haji tries to ram through with his VBIED.Why: (1A-D)Their inhumanity appropriates some advantages of robotics.They have a significant advantage in being:A) A MUCH smaller signature and smaller target than a Diesel IFV box that encloses 9 people.B) Lighter logistical footprint (assuming they behave themselves, they don't eat, shit, sleep, or wash).C) Superior maneuverability (traverse doorways, alleys) AND mobility (leaping) in tight urban spaces.D) Low-cost, rapid, on-demand demolition capability, thanks to their superhuman strength (punching through walls).Some counter-arguments: (2)1) they just might be too dumb to trust; they might *not* really be set-and-forget. Sure they seem to obey humans but this seems to involve some psychic-fuckery that probably isn't replicable at scale.2) in canon Game terms, they don't have economy of scale (yet), since each Tyrant has a pricetag of ~$120,000,000>this price inefficiency could potentially be overcome if it's all artificial price-gouging, or if that steep cost covers legitimate risk-factors like maintaining Umbrella's international criminal conspiracy.Obviously if Umbrella Bioweapons was inducted to the legitimate MIC, preventing discovery would no longer be a risk-factor.A normal production-run Abrams is only ~$7 million (albeit that's in 90's money).Show quoted text
>>64939958Not very. A college student and a rookie cop, both with zero combat experience, were able to successfully evade one in close quarters for hours as it slowly lumbered around. Any fireteam that just focused on it would chew it up in a few seconds.
>>64939958At $120 million? It wouldn't be.The XXXL version jobbed to a BMP-3 and a airstrike.>>64940003They made T-A.L.O.S. which apparently could take on battlefield combatants. But god forbid how much one would cost.https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/T-A.L.O.S._Simulated_Battle_Results
>>64940112Yeah but those kids have plot armor and nobody gave the Tyrant ammunition, besides some incidental missiles it found (and was smart enough to recognize and use).
Also 5 T-103's took on a spec-ops team which resulted in mutual destruction. And they did not use the railgun.
>>64939958They would get mowed down by artillery and machine gunners. They might be able to effortlessly btfo infantry squads tho but it would have to be isolated infantry squads without any sort of vehicle or artillery support
>>64940117>coat for disguiseGUYS HELP, SHAQ IS TRYING TO KILL ME!
>>64940137I don't think the intended use case for these things was against first world armies. More likely they would be sold to third world dictators for use as giganigga bodyguards/assassins.
Basically everything in RE dies to RPGs.
Not cost effective for frontline combat unless you can get some serious economy of scale going. But also absolutely terrifying as a disposable suicide attacker against high-value rear-area targets. Think important logistics or command facilities, military and political leadership etc. Some asshole that can shrug off anything short of AT is something a lot of bodyguard and security units would have a real hard time stopping before it makes it to whatever's the target.Basically, think of it as more of a mixture between an assassin and a walking cruise missile than a frontline supersoldier.
Conversely a T-800 is like half a billion dollars if made today and can use guns whilst being able to trick humans. These are cheap for a humanoid superweapon but a Terminator is just more effective.
>>64940782By 8 the BSAA is using squads of these, which can follow orders, operate weapons and use small unit tactics. No indoctrination, no boot camp, no post service benefits, a soldier-in-a-can if you will. They either die in the field or hit a pre-set expiration date and die on their own
>>64939958it only makes sense as a proof of concept to get contracts and funding basically.
>hurry durr they get destroyed by a 20 yo girl RE protagonists are demi gods almost as ridiculous as Ace Combat protagonists Tyrants would be pretty effective in niche scenarios like for example obliterating an underground facility that's hard to bomb which I believe is very relevant today
>>64939958>can easily be out walked>can't do any complex planning or problem solving on its own>costs 120 million dollars>defeated by relatively cheap rocket launchers>becomes deadlier but uncontrollable when its coat is destroyedIf if was a lot cheaper it could possibly be used for assassinations of heavily guarded targets. If you could get one close enough to the Kremlin for example it could easily breach the building, kill the guards who are almost certainly not packing an RPG and crush Putin's head like a grape. However recovery would almost certainly be impossible without revealing who was controlling it so it's basically a one time use weapon. Sure you could use it for less high profile assassinations but the cost would be insane compared to the what you gain from using it. Again recovering it would still be risky especially if you're trying to maintain some kind of plausible deniability. All of the BOWs are basically useless for anything other than shock attacks and terrorizing civilians.
>>64939958Trenchcoats look cool but they're not really that practical for most environments.
>>64940828to be fair T-103s are one of the few boss BOWs that we see get killed by npcs as well. They air dropped a bunch of them onto a special forces team in Raccoon and we see the aftermath in 3 with both sides wiped out.
Guys, these things were meant to be used in concert with the other magic zombie weapons going on at the time. You commit a war crime by zombifying a city and then send these in to make sure specific targets did, in fact, die. The zombies won't bother a tyrant.Or some other bioweapon is used instead, the tyrants are just meant to be able to operate in that situation freely.
>>64940873Umbrella, intentionally or not, developed super human serums, magic medical sprays that instantly heal grievous wounds, handheld rail cannons and sentient AI before the year 2000.>Umbrella board: "MORE UNCONTROLLABLE BIOWEAPONS!"
>>64940858I can see the market for a lab grown USA special forces equivalent BOW though even if they are more expensive
Also Nemesis can use weapons and has enough intelligence, its well worth it's price tag
>>64940903We're more likely to see special forces robots simply because our biotech sector is just barely getting into growing vital organs.
>>64940870What's the pink thing that facefucks the Tyrant?Or rather, why is it doing that?
>>64940903definitelyi think the only problem was later RE games & media treating them as finished products since they were so iconic, while in the original 3 games its pretty clear that they're all very early prototypes that umbrella is desperately throwing in to try to do damage control. like iirc its stated somewhere the nemesis unit in 3 is the first one that they managed to actually get working as advertised. (some supplemental material mentions an earlier prototype that attempted to kill all scientists and escape as soon as it woke up) the actual goal being something like >>64940813 presumably
>>64940919Thats a Licker and IIRC the Tyrant pissed off the Lickers somehow in that shlock movie
>>64940940A dude is controlling the lickers via plagas stuff.
>>64940813>Tyrant with a gunWhat caliber is that gun?
>>64940946>the entire city is just ancient Greek architecture
>>64940981>>the entire city is just ancient Greek architectureThere are suburbs in Med cities that look like that.They made a kind of faux-Macedonian city centre in Skopje despite being Slavic.
>>64940940>>64940946Thanks, I never played much of the series. I think I only saw one or two of the movies too.
>>64940953He/it's human bean sized, a mini me tyrant.
>>64941009Is Skopje known for intense showdowns between bioweapons?
>>64941011That's too many movies seen.
>>64941030yeah, they're called albanians
>>64940981>>64941009Looks like those central Asian cities that are eerly dead but very spacious and full of giant government buildings
>>64941032>That's too many movies seen.One of them had Milla Jovovich's nipples.>>64941030>Is Skopje known for intense showdowns between bioweapons?It's not far from where the Ottomans lost their first major battle in Europe.
Are the J'avo the only practical B.O.W.? Just super-roids you can inject en masse into infantry. Probably unstable long-term but who gives a fuck if you're in the business.If a zombie dog costs $30 mil then the Hunters and Under Takers probably cost a stupid amount too.
>>64941063whatever these guys were
>>64939958>have a restriction system from final form in his neck>system fail and get final form>litteraly explode in half after a maximum of rocket launcherEfficient against civilians and civilian-kind of weapons, not even a threat against any african-tier military.
>>64941233fuck me I meant 2 rockets from launcher
>>64940981It's meant to be the local governments' seat of power in IIRC some ex-soviet republic down in the balkans with extensive greek roots.
>>64940895The ironic bit is that the crazies in charge were looking for eternal life, and the whole bioweapon thing was itself just a distraction meant to make some money on the side out of all their failed attempts. And then greed and megalomania caused it to feature creep beyond any semblance of a sane project, until it finally fucked over the whole company.So hilariously enough, it was all just caused by average corporate bullshit.
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>>64940003The original explanation was that it was too retarded to use them properly.
>>64939958>120 million>Dies to an RPGSo about the same bloat as normal then.
>>64940842Yeah, this is pretty much the only use I could imagine for them. You need to take down a fortified target that is guarded against regular assassinations or specops bullshit, and they are located in a place where you can’t exactly get to the target with an armored vehicle. Bunkers, too deep behind frontlines, heavily surveilled etc.So, here comes a walking pseudo-tank that can be carried around in a van or something, has no real self-preservation instincts and will just home into the target while also being really fucking hard to take down with regular bodyguard / perimeter security duty equipment before they get their objective done.But on actual battlefield, they’re useless as fuck unless you can make them so cheaply that they become useful as squad-level meat shields in urban combat.
>>64939958I assume Tyrants aren't used for frontline combat, they'd be better utilized for glowie operations. Say, you wanna get rid of some third world despot and have your own guy. You could launch one or two tyrants into the city in a pod (like what they did with nemesis in RE3) and have them go about their business. The tyrants themselves follow rigorous programming so there's very little chance of civilian casualties.God I miss REsistance, using Mr X in that was so much fun and he had a great theme too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXy9UEoNN1Y
>>64941063I always kinda wondered how they convinced dudes to shoot up with something that's about on tier or worse than strapping on a suicide vest.
>>64941620Jake says it in 6 when Sherry finds him, they didn't tell them what it really was, IIRC they told the guys taking it it was something like a B12 shot, which Jake complains didn't work on him, which is Sherry's proof that he inherited Wesker's immunity to the T-Virus.
>>64942138>Jake MullerCall me an asshat, but I liked parts of 6, especially since it was the first one where I got all the infinite weapons (because fuck 5).
>>64940842120 million is nothing for a government, that's the price of a few tomahawk missiles
>>64939958basically biological urban dronesAll umbrella BOW tech was more or less meant for target assassination.>>64940101>>64940782>2) in canon Game terms, they don't have economy of scale (yet), since each Tyrant has a pricetag of ~$120,000,000>But also absolutely terrifying as a disposable suicide attacker against high-value rear-area targets.you forget that you can royally fuck a tyrants muscle system with shrapnel or bullets and it will just go nap then wake up refreshedWhole point of the tyrant is that its reusable, not disposable, until it degraded to the point it become barely cognizant mass of tentacles>>64940813not a tyrant, iirc its t-derived but they are basically animated corpses.
>>64942225As someone that played most of the franchise, 6 is so far under the rest its no contest and it barely competes against even shovelware. Piers was the only high point of the game for me and its honestly shitty that he hasn't even gotten an honorable mention since. He's just in the forgotten bin along with sheva, billy, and carlos.>>64941287I always thought the story overall held together better when it was a bunch of oblivious scientists and researchers thinking they're making big medical breakthroughs for the public, only to be blindsided and betrayed by higher ups. The current retcon of everyone being aware of what was happening, and knowing that they can be betrayed any minute to have their shit stolen doesn't really work well cause then there would be way more weskers and birkins and much less seras and winters. But the whole timeline and story structure of the series is kind of fucked and blended at this point so theres no fixing it.>>64941620The ones who were given it in edonia were meant to die and be a testing ground. Most killed each other or were done in by bsaa, and the ones who lived too long or had an adverse reaction cocooned and turned into worse things. However 6 months after they had it more stable so that's why in China they were able to have a whole stable army that could control whole bases and carriers without losing their shit or turning.
>>64939958If they're immune to mines or IED then they could clear a minefield I guess?
>>64942869They're not immune to explosives, also that just sounds like you'd end up with bio-hazardous material spread everywhere.
>>64939958Hopeless against aerial combat.30mm from A-10 shredded a couple of these apart in the movie
>>64942902Not just a couple, but specifically giant giga-niga tyrants that were stronger than normal.
>>64941360As long as it doesn't catch it.https://youtu.be/egB0yiLhP2U?si=Cw4lPgOcb6b3TS26&t=23
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>>64942962I'm so sick of Leon
>>64942967>t.Victor
>>64942902You think Umbrella was going to sell these things to people that wanted to fight the U.S. Airforce? I swear you people are being retarded on purpose.
>>64943119>You think Umbrella was going to sell these things to people that wanted to fight the U.S. Airforce?After they got kicked out of the US they might.
>>64940117
>>64943166Or they would continue to sell them to African warlords that need to keep peasants with aks under control like they had been up to that point.
gais i took a pic of a giant dude i saw yesterday. do u think he might be one of those bows??
>>64943172I feel like there's got to be a better use for that genetic tech they were working on
>>64943172>>64943223I can't help but feel like African warlords aren't the correct customer base to sustain multi-billion dollar illegal military biotech research. You need really, really big money for stuff like that.
>>64943401>You need really, really big money for stuff like thatSo the UAE are the primary market?
>>64939958Does it have magically infinite calories and material spawning out of the aether? If not, then a basic bitch autocannon eats it alive. Setting him on fire and keeping him on fire would work too.
>>64943418In the movies yeah, it's generally places with oil money buying those things, like east Europe, mid east, and south americans.
>>64940687I remember reading that Umbrella was pitching their BOWs to the US military though.
>>64939958Trench coats have a long military tradition. Fedoras not so much, but maybe worth launching a program to how well it integrates with a modern fighting force.
>>64943871>Trench coats have a long military tradition>Trench coats>TrenchI find your assertion uncontroversial.
>>64943658If it was one of the novels those aren't canon.
>>64939958>be Armacham Technology Corporation>have battalion of super soldiers clones>they have faster reflexes and reaction timr>can follow orders, speak to each other in combat>can use weapons effectively and have combined armed tactics >fights as squads, platoons and up to battalion level tactics WTF is Umbrella doing compared to ATC?
>>64944122All of the BOE research is just side projects to Spencer's quest to make a race of immortal superhumans with himself as their God king.
>>64940003That's basically what they did with Nemesis.
>>64939958Look at the Resident Evil movie set in "Not Ukraine" for what happens when it comes up against aircraft.
>>64944122Honest would love a what if of Umbrella versus ATC.Especially if psychic commander powers override the Virus
>>64942910Honest this movie was fun and I laugh that it gave Russia the idea to say Ukraine was creating bioweapons
>>64939958Hunters would be a better general military weapon. They can be dropped in situ, and they only live as long as the nutrients in their bodies hold out so at the end of their operational life cycle they either die of exhaustion/starvation or are killed.Either way, designating a kill box with pheremones to keep them in place and allowing them to kill everything that enters the kill box will keep your enemies on their toes.
>>64939958Depends what make of Tyrant.Some are too slow to physically be able to run, and so dumb they'll mission kill themselves.Others are able to sprint, form plans to hunt, punch through concrete, use weapons, ignore nearly any form of man portable arms alongside certain fires and explosives, and intuitively recognize hazards without training. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEPU8YAWZjkSituationally, they can also adaptively mutate.A non-retarded tyrant would absolutely be useful for a military. So long as they can be controlled and made safe.
>>64944553>squad of Replica elites fighting Tyrantit would be kino battle given they field heavy and exotic weapons.
>>64944834I'd pay to see a replica PA fight a tyrant.
>>64941063if the impact trauma mutations were actually useful instead of giving them silly worm arms or moth ass-heads
>>64939958Why do they dress him up like a dork? Give him a yankees hat, some new balance sneaks, maybe a billowy t-shirt to hid a sidearm in his waistband.
>>64942369as someone who played almost the entire franchise six has the most kino plot, fully embracing the soap opera stupidity of all evil residents. Dodgy set pieces aside it also has the most refined version of the RE4 style arcade gameplay Mueller was the high point of the side characters. While Piers the low point being a temu Chris and his comfort boy
>>64944122ATC is a more serious and though out version then something like Umbrella that belongs to a cartoon world with evil, mustache twirling corporations plotting to take over the world
>>64943223yeah. developing new vaccines, alloys, pharmaceuticals etc based on studying the biochemistry of these mutants. But that would be boring compared to selling slimy feral monsters, prone to uncontrollable rampage and mutations, for the lulz
>>64943223Well yeah. The original goal was looking for clinical immortality with a side order of creating the ubermensch. Then someone got the idea that they could make some of the research cost back by weaponizing their failures and intermediate steps. And then that side project started suffeirng feature creep and various ego issues by important people invovled and grew way beyond what it was intended to be at the start while a lot of the people involved outright forgot what the purpose was originally.Tl;dr, Umbrellas whole BOW obsession was literally just the outcome of typical corporate bullshit and people getting high on their own supply, taken to an extreme.
>>64940101I like them being the lead in a room breach. The rest, not so much. >performing like an IFV, (think Bradley or LAV-25). Since their superhuman strength should allow them to manhandle a 20mm cannon at least.They could probably handle the auto cannon, but they would get killed easily by things that don’t kill IFVs>Have your Tyrant stand smack-dab in the center of the ECP gate when a haji tries to ram through with his VBIED.Would be hilarious but no. Ada shreked one with a swat van. Even with Muhammed’s little shitbox the physics don’t work with him standing still. > A MUCH smaller signature and smaller target than a Diesel IFV box that encloses 9 people.Agreed, but they don’t carry 9 soldiers either nor do they provide protection for them. I don’t think you can or should compare them. A IFV, or the 9 troops within, could kill a tyrant. I doubt a tyrant can kill them. Canonically any anti armor weapons would kill a tyrant even if we say fuck reality and 5.56 and 7.62 does nothing. >Lighter logistical footprint (assuming they behave themselves, they don't eat, shit, sleep, or wash).Debatable. We don’t see them eat in games because nothing goes more than 24 hours or so. If they don’t need sustenance than umbrella discovered perpetual energy and that is a WAY bigger deal than bioweapons. >Low-cost, rapid, on-demand demolition capability, thanks to their superhuman strength (punching through walls).They’re pretty stupid in the grand scheme of things. It’s not like they can be precise (not sure why you need precise demolition from them anyway). Even if they achieved economies of scale with production they’ll never be cheaper than explosives.
>>64940680Honestly umbrella should crank out a couple and put them into the NFL and NBA. That would be profitable at least.
>>64940828Leon is Leon and Claire has the Redford lineage. Ada however was able to avoid Mr. X completely. They’ve canonically been killed by incendiary, shoulder fired rockets. If your super weapon can get killed by a $500 LAW that’s not a good super weapon.
>>64941410> really fucking hard to take down with regular bodyguard / perimeter security duty equipment before they get their objective done.Depends on how much stock you put in game mechanics. Even if we give them the insane healing and regeneration properties, the only reason you can’t kill Mr X before the end is plot. Rifles and grenades would kill him if basic shoulder fired rockets do. Now, the normal security for a politician or whatever that only has pistols or PDWs on them, they would be in trouble. Especially if he has the armored coat which would stop pistol rounds. But if the guards had rifles or could get them quickly that’s a different story.
just clone chris and you get army of gigachads
>>64939958As they're presented in game, not very effective at all, they stand bolt upright and walk after people at 2 miles an hour.Realistically? Their bare body is almost immune to small arms, and they could wear IV++ armor on top of it. They could easily carry weapons capable of massively over matching infantry, or heavier weapons that could punch through light armored vehicles easily. Essentially they are an IFV that can crouch, lie down on the ground, and hide behind objects 1/10th of what is necessary to conceal or cover an IFV. You functionally cannot engage them with infantry, and they'd be able to engage light armor effectively. Unless they're unbelievably expensive, they'd be revolutionary. They'd be absurdly effective in modern combat under those conditions.
>>64948634I'm pretty sure they said the 103s are too dumb to use more complex weaponry, though I don't know if that's still canon or anything.
>>64944122An old man in Romania managed to make this.
>>64940946Why are lickers so h*ckin' qt, bros
>>64944564In RE revelations an army of them completely wipes out a major city without issue. Turning invisible and ripping locals apart seems impossible to prevent
>>64945697The gameplay only functions in mercenaries where they actually give enough resources to have fun.Also, literally any main/side characters in any entry of the series>>>>>> enemies and bosses> Helena The fact that Leon didn't shoot the cunt in the face within 5 minutes is a travesty. She is up there with mia in terms of characters so awful and selfish that they're the true villains.
>>64940953Presumably 12ga, it's based on an airsoft gun. Chris "Boulder Puncher" "Marry my Sister Please" "Unfortunately Chris Can't Read" Redfield uses one in the Re7 dlc and it comes up again in Re8
>>64940929>some supplemental materialThat sounds like the earlier iterations of Robocop 2 a lot...
>>64948704That's why I said as presented vs realistically. Realistically you're not going to have a creature that can recognize faces, put on it's own clothes, use doors, understand what a fucking missile is, maintain it's composure pretending to be human, and then not know how to point a thing and pull a thing no matter how many times you show him.
>you created an aerosol that can instantly seals open wounds? that's incredible!>would you like to buy some zombie sharks?>wow, this stuff straight up reverses wrinkles from aging instead of just hiding them! how do you make this stuff?>how about a huge zombie shark?>you're well underway to a potential cure for cancer, would you like some grants?>please buy the zombie sharks, pleaseUmbrella was probably the worst case of misallocated resources in evil megacorp history. You could probably make a sitcom about Spencer and his cabal of lunatic scientists exasperating the government and financial side of company.
They did make a big brained version of the standard 103, but going by the pricing we have they probably cost too much.
Ironically enough, Umbrella did have an almost perfect marketable B.O.W. in one of the lightgun spin-offs.>smart enough to use guns and follow vocal commands from a human overseer>dissolve into goo after death/when receiving a self-destruction order>cheap enough that they could be used as disposable clean-up crews>the main downside is that their aim is subpar and they're physical weaker than humansBasically, they are just a couple iterations away from being a perfect weapon for spooks to use in covert operations.
>>64949535Don't forget they're fast as fuck, or at least designed to be. Based on that, their hooting when shot, and gangly proportions, I'm almost certain they're modified chimps.I figure that would also explain why they're dogshit at shooting despite being trained in it. You can only do so much when you're working with an animal, even an extremely intelligent one.
>>64949457Plenty of amazing technologies were invented for initial reasons that are retarded in retrospect. Like going to the moon.
>>64942369You didn't like the evil US vizier turning into t-rex in a massive ploy to goon to Ada?
>>64949575Tbf, as far retarded RE boss transformations go, that is still relatively tame. Dead Aim featured a Sephiroth look-alike who became a troon tyrant after injecting himself with the t+g virus hybrid.
>>64949575If it was only one chapter I would laugh it off. But he takes up almost 2 entire chapters in Leon's campaign alone, plus one in adas. Turning the dude into a neverending anime filler arc is a worse sin than being a nonsense dino monster, and Leon's part already dragged its feet more than enough by that point.
>>64949457>would you like to buy some zombie sharks?To be fair the games specifically say the zombie sharks were a complete letdown, being only marginally more dangerous than a regular shark.
>>64949591morpheus is way more memorable as a villain than simmons, not that that's saying much.
>>64949457>But with this kind of technology, you could cure cancer!>I don't want to cure cancer, I want to make Zombie sharks!
>>64949561>I'm almost certain they're modified chimpsI'm mostly with you except:>>64949535>they're physical weaker than humansThat is not an accurate description of chimps.
You're all forgetting the deep cuts, the 1998 novelization only story where the zombies use guns, this making them like regular soldiers only they can keep fighting after taking .308 to the chest or losing both legs.
>>64942317Where did it say that they were reanimated grunts?
>>64942369> He's just in the forgotten bin along with sheva, billy, and carlos.Are Sheva and Carlos forgotten? I feel like Sheva is pretty well known. Carlos too but maybe that’s recency bias with RE3R
>>64942962That’s not fair, he has perfect genes
>>64943119Anyone that was a potential buyer would also have a legitimate risk of air attacks. Doesn’t matter if it’s the USAF or Mgube click-clack flying a 30 year old Hind. Same outcome.
>>64943200>what it feels like to chew 5 gum
>>64944564I’ve always thought this too. Hunters are semi-viable in niche cases. They can move stealthily through water, sewers, etc. Very lethal if they get close, tough enough to take a handful of rounds and still kill a target. They also have a “monster” feel which fucks with moral. I could be wrong but I think they were cheap (by umbrella standards). They wouldn’t replace soldiers but they could have a place.
>>64948634> Essentially they are an IFV that can crouch, lie down on the ground, and hide behind objects 1/10th of what is necessary to conceal or cover an IFV. At 20x the cost of a Bradley. Let alone what an M113 with .50 and TOWS cost. And they can’t shuttle any troops, munitions, supplies, etc. >You functionally cannot engage them with infantry, and they'd be able to engage light armor effectively.They literally get killed by shoulder fired rockets. A M72 LAW kills one. 40mms would kill one. Realistically a medium machine gun does too. >Unless they're unbelievably expensive, they'd be revolutionary.They are. $120MI will also argue they are too dumb to effectively use cover, hide, etc even if physically capable of it.
>>64949457Sharks you say?
>>64944564iirc they're supposed to be able to be trained to follow simple commands as well
>>64942967>t. Saddler
The only bio weapons that Umbrella made on purpose that were worth anything were the hunters and even those can get killed by any Bubba with a scattergun
>>64951221Quick, ring up the laser division!
>>64949457To be fair, the things that do work (like the spray) are likely subsidizing all the goofy shit. Umbrella in canon is/was a massive, successful corporation. Clearly they were making a shitload of money on something.It's also not uncommon to have core product lines subsidize expansion/pet projects that aren't likely to go anywhere. That's normal for companies.
>>64943200>Skin disease>Goofy demonic eyesLooks like your average Sith Lord
>>64949575>massive ploy to goon to Ada?I get it
>>64949575His reasons being justifiable does not erase the stupidity of his plan
>>64951476Gotcha covered boss
>>64949575>hires scientist woman and gives her unlimited access to the US treasury >have her create the ultimate bioweapon >use said bioweapon on scientist woman to morph her into his spy waifuIt the most retarded plot point I have ever seen in resident evil which is honestly impressive
>>64951622Ada is an eggless hag.
>>64951700That means you never have to pull out
>>64951471The humble zombie dog is actually a pretty great weapon>ignores danger and can shrug off what would normally be lethal damage>bite force is more than anything a living dog or wolf can generate, never gets tired>much faster than an average dog(not necessarily represented in gameplay)>can apparently follow orders and recognize friend and foeThe zombie dogs were apparently pretty popular from what I remember, and they are further upgraded down the line, with the ones in re9 being fuckhuge and capable of maintaining a speed of 60 mph
>>64949877Getting real tired of Capcom getting inspired by the WORST auxiliary media, RE9 was practically a love letter to those awful CG movies.
>>64951700>t walled Claire
>>64951753I'm still pissed Capcom vetoed the writer who wanted to bring Sheva back for those.
>>64950863By forgotten, i think he means by the writers at Capcom because those characters may as well have died on the way back to their home planet
>>64951925Carlos could easily be brought back as part of the merc group Chris set up. There's at least one brown.
>>64951753I'm sick of every plot twist needing its own wiki page to make sense. I was really hoping this shit would get have gotten wiped clean with the remakes and Ethan Timeline, but no; we're firmly back on the Code Veronica convoluted nonsense train.
>>64952111No chance of that ever happening with RE, not with the Family, the Connections, and the Four Houses all being separate secret Illuminati groups along with four separate versions of Umbrella and internal conflicts within two separate BSAA organizations and now the DSO as yet another organization. Japs cannot be trusted to come up with any media that isn't a total clusterfuck.
wait, did BSAA turn evil
>>64952193Partially, the end of 8 has a scene where the euro branch of it is found out to be using bio-terror soldiers. It will probably be memory holed like clone Chris and clone Leon before him.
>>64952193If you really think about it, clive and the bsaa were already butt fucking insane even before they started pushing their own bow soldiers if you look at revelations or 5. Especially revelations. Dude could have just talked to raymond and looked at cameras and bank accounts to arrest morgan, instead does the most fucked up game of cloak and dagger that caused way more harm than good, and upon the slightest bit of insight makes 0 fucking sense. Like even if his plan went with no hitches, he'd still have agents killing each other cause they look like terrorists or traitors. And in 5 he seems to be actively hindering all the teams in Africa and sending no resources.
>>64951207>At 20x the cost of a Bradley.>They are. $120M>I will also argue they are too dumb to effectively use cover,That's why I said realistically vs as presented.>>64951207>They literally get killed by shoulder fired rockets. A M72 LAW kills one.Light armored vehicles are 50 times the target and not generally resistant to LAWs or even 40mm HEDP. Guess they cant beat infantry.
>>64952372Clive stepped down after revelations because he himself acknowledged how fucked up his actions were. The reason Chris gets no support is because the BSAA is funded by big pharma, specifically tricell, and excella(the sexiest evil woman in resident evil) uses that to shut down their investigation.
>>64940088Not too well. Most basic Iranian units would be equipped with extremely decent akm automatic rifles. They would also be equipped with copious amounts of RPG weaponry and frags. We can expect them to be competent in the use of these things. I don't know about you but in real life AK-47s chop shit up and physics are real. So whatever that thing is it's getting chopped up.
>>64952608>We can expect them to be competent in the use of these thingsThis can be debated, but yes, they should still be able to handle him.
>>64952087I think there was a file somewhere in one game that had Carlos on a list of deceased targets. But unless he's seen dead I would just take it as Capcom being lazy and just trying to push him out. Which is more than what characters like Billy get. That dude showed up for 1 entry, gave a tomboy head pats, then bounced into the abyss.
>>64952560Why do you think the realistic cost is 1/10th or less than what they are presented as? Yes there is initial R&D, yes economies of scale could factor in. But you still have to grow a humanoid and you won’t ever hit MIC economies of scale. >realisticallyIf we’re being realistic, they can’t magically heal their wound or mutate into larger versions without consuming and extreme number of calories (or some energy). They also realistically aren’t impervious to rifle rifle. A mag dump of 5.56 would kill a tyrant. It might still kill you too, but then it’s not much better than a regular soldier. > and not generally resistant to LAWs or even 40mm HEDP.Since when can’t Bradley’s shrug off a 66mm rocket? We’ve seen them take worse in Ukraine and keep on chugging. I’d love to see where 40mm took out an semi-current generation IFV.>inb4 I said light armored vehiclesYou clearly said IFV in the first post. If you’re implying up-armored humvees or something now, that’s dumb. Regardless, you completely gloss over the utility aspect of vehicles, and that they can carry more weaponry. So even in a super generous case for tyrants, they die just as easily as an IFV, can’t provide more firepower, and cost more. Wow, great weapon.
>>64949488That's some 1970s sci-fi type shit.
>>64944407Isn't he canonically weaker than Mr. X
>>64944564Lickers might be more effective imo
>>64949730Kek, my first thought
>>64953759>resident evil canon
>>64944564Were these guys supposed to be based on Zoanoids? Thinking about it now the whole premise of "shadowy organization building monsters as weapons" is really similar to Cronos. Except with Zoanoids your weapons retain human intelligence, can fist fight tanks, and can be engineered with all sorts of organic weapons from missiles they grow themselves, acid flamethrowers, to fuck off big lasers.
>>64953763Nta, I’m curious why you think so. I can’t say your wrong, but I see the lickers as no more deadly and they both have the same perks. The downside is lickers are blind and seem easier to trick. I could be missing something significant though.
>>64951622 >>64951700>>64951760Ahem…ONE BIG REMINDER, yellow fever is and should be classified as a mental illness, especially that one slanty bug you’ve been chasing is a well known chinkhag spy.
How could slant eyes gooks EVER EVEN HOPE TO COMPETE?!!
>>64940782Kind of like a terminator? How in the future scene in T1 the franco columbu terminator infiltrates the human outpost just to start slaughtering everyone
>>64953759No canonically it's a NE parasite put in a tyrant, it would be a strict upgrade.
>>64953978The endless thirst of azngirls and hapagirls over the WMAF Leon/Ada pairing is both hot and fascinating.There's a whole network of mutually supporting accounts and chatboards that TO THIS DAY put together music video montages of these two 3d vidya characters staring and flirting at eachother. 3 decades of drip-fed game cutscene encounters kept on life support.Whole art accounts devoted to nothing but "Aeon" shipping in both US and China.
If I remember the OG version of Resident Evil 3. There was like half a dozen of those things laying around dead that got killed by a Delta Force team in the area you fight Nemisis for the final time. So what I take from that is an infantry platoon could easily stack bodies against them
>>64955330An M240 or M72 LAW would easily wreck one of these guys, so I agree. An M134 as door gun would probably do even better.
>>64955330>>64955359Iirc delta force guys only put them down because of anti armor rocket launchers. So yeah, if you have a LAW or better you should be able to put them down with a couple hits
>>64939958>>64940101
>>64953993By not being an obese hog
>>64955412It was an experimental rail gun that did them in. One of the tyrants you find has a watermelon sized hole in it's chest. You get to see said railhun in action in the spec ops campaign of Operation Racoon City when your mission control airdrops one in to deal with multiple tyrants because none of your guys have heavy weapons.
>>64956062isn't the railgun in og 3 an immobile emplacement
>>64956177Yes, that was a gun in a test rig in an Umbrella lab.
>>64956062The Railgun is what Delta was there to secure. The Delta team dies because Umbrella drops 5 tyrants on them as they were trying to secure it for capture. One of the Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles games covers it iirc.
>>64953292>Why do you think the realistic cost is 1/10th or less than what they are presented as?Because that has to be including the cost of the entire production or else that's insane and retarded. Once you have a stable model making a new one's barely more than the price of the meat and vitamins that make him up.>>64953292>If we’re being realistic, they can’t magically heal their woundRealism means internal consistency not whatever gay reddit shit you think it does.>>64953292>You clearly said IFV in the first postIFVs are light armored Vehicles. Most IFVs don't even have 360 HMG resistance let alone 40mm HEDP immunity.>Regardless, you completely gloss over the utility aspect of vehicles, and that they can carry more weaponry. So even in a super generous case for tyrants, they die just as easily as an IFV, can’t provide more firepower, and cost more. Wow, great weapon.Suitability is linked to target size. A tyrant can have HMG proof armor on a frame a micro fraction of an IFVs size. If the enemy has one and you don't, your infantry loses, end.
>>64956864Survivability
>>64956545>five fucking tyrantsA dug in platoon of UBCS could have accomplished arguably better results unless we're still going with the>ah we need more combat data!shenanigans
>>64956940UBCS existed for PR reasons, having them shoot at U.S. military would have been bad for that.
>>64956988>would have been bad for PRI dont think PR was salvagable at that point
>>64956864> else that's insane and retardedYeah, that’s the point dumbass> Realism means internal consistency not whatever gay reddit shit you think it does.>mentioning reddit for no reasonThat’s not the instawin button you think it is newfag. Consistency and realism are two very different thinks. Per the internal consistency of the games, nothing can kill a tyrant until you get to the final boss battle (RE2 and RE3). Realism is saying rifle rounds will kill something made of flesh and blood. You called them “meat and vitamins”. Why would they be impervious to small arms fire when something like an elephant isn’t despite being multiple times the size?> Most IFVs don't even have 360 HMG resistance let alone 40mm HEDP immunity.Which ones? Again, the Bradley and anything similar and semi modern is not being killed by a .50 or 40mm. A tyrant is. > suitability is linked to target size. Gross oversimplification >A tyrant can have HMG proof armor on a frame a micro fraction of an IFVs size.Can it? When has this been shown?> If the enemy has one and you don't, your infantry loses, end.Kek whatever you say. Meanwhile in the games they’re killed by single individuals with less firepower than an infantry squad.
>>64954136Kill yourself, dugin cocksucker.
>>64953978It will be AshleyScreenshot this
>>64955412From the looks of it, I think the delta guys managed to take at least one down with the rail cannon, at least judging by the crater in one of their chests.
>>64939958They would probably be incredibly useful for clearing buildings, sure it’s not beating a tank but they are basically immune to small arms fire and can koolaid man through walls. They can also leap buildings, tear people in half, and have at least some level of intelligence and problem solving, given the one in re9 found missiles and knew they could be thrown as an explosive weapon. Reaction time and speed varies wildly, with some power walking only while the ones in the cgi movie sprints at full speed and can catch an rpg mid air and flick it back at the shooter with perfect accuracy.
>>64957038>Yeah, that’s the point dumbassIn other words, not realistic, faggot.>Consistency and realism are two very different thinks.Says the guy who in the next sentence admits he thinks internal consistency means game mechanics lmao.>Gross oversimplificationI said linked to not exclusively determined by you illiterate faggot.>Can it? When has this been shown?There are level IV plates that exist right now that stop 50 BMG AP>Meanwhile in the games they’re killed by single individuals with less firepower than an infantry squad.You mean the single individuals who also overpower special forces teams 1v10 without even slowing down?
>>64958809>noooo don't judge the games by what they sayNigger you're saying they won't cost $120M without saying why. You say that's "realistic" but then ignore anything made of flesh and blood gets shredded by ANY bullet, despite bullet damage on flesh being far more realistic. You are an idiot.Very nice of you to gloss over the provable specifics on IFVs you previously claimed. Why didn't you prove those?>You mean the single individuals who also overpower special forces teams 1v10 without even slowing down?When did Claire, Leon, or Jill do this? Furthermore, why does that matter? Doesn't matter if Leon is soloing 100 SF guys, a rocket fired from him has the same exact impact as a rocket fired from me.
>>64957211note the pods showing they were dropped directly onto the team too
>>64949796Yeah, but you have to expect some compromises for a designer animal that's required to dissolve into goo on command.
>>64958809>There are level IV plates that exist right now that stop 50 BMG APTyrants aren't HMGproof, keep in mind Nemesis is the upgraded version of the Tyrants and ++P Bubba's Pissin Hot Loads pistol rounds can actually stagger him a bit.
>>64959430We were talking about a scenario where you're free to equip a tyrant however you want. That means you get to give him armor.
>>64959455He's going to get slowed down a fair bit, granted Tyrants can't run in the first place.
>>64959462In the CGI movie the Tyrant like ten times the weight could run just fine.
>>64959505>CGI movieWe're talking about Resident Evil, not officially licensed fanfiction.
>>64959505Movies aren't canon.
>>64959455If you can alter the rules to say whatever you want, then I'll say a .22 to the dome with drop a tyrant. Because it will.>inb4 kevlar over his headOk fine then single round of regular 5.56
>>64959505i love the movies but they're too over the top to really consider, even by re standards
>>64946390>but they would get killed easily by things that don’t kill IFVsYou need to pump hundreds of rounds just to incapacitate one of these guys. Soldiers shot thousands of rounds a week and only hit a couple of things.
>>64959601Thats so dumb that it spins back over to entertaining
>>64942369I dont think Sheva necessarily needs to come back, its okay for people to just retire from field work (or just change jobs entirely) instead of doing elaborate action sequences in their 40s. Its even worse for the characters we do have, Leon and Chris are in their 50s and Claire by the events of requiem is categorically menopausal.
>>64959601Rule 4 exists for a reason. Also lol that she just winged him.
>>64959804pushing the timeline forward has caused the serious so many problems for literally no benefit, it's kind of impressive
>>64959804We need to see if Sheva is holding up as well as Diamond Jackson.
>>64959573Tyrants (and zombies for that matter) canonically can survive headshots.Zombies MOSTLY die to a single headshot, tyrants require magdumps.
>>64959985Depends on the size of the bullet and shot placement. Zombies appear to have no intact higher processes, so presumably you need to hit the brain stem to OHKO them.
>>64959462Tyrants can run but for whatever reason they all have the same universal problem of being arrogantly calm and composed.
>>64960084They literally cannot run, at least when their mutation-restrictor coats are on.Nemesis being the exception because he's just too cool.
>>64960090Mr. X in the original RE2 had rubberbanding behaviour where his speed would always slow down when he was close to you. Although it looked like a speed walk.In the remake Mr. X will run and beat you to death if you shoot his hat off.The walking thing is clearly more them just being arrogannce born calm then a physical restriction.
>>64960116He never runs, he just powerwalks at most.Nemesis outright sprints at you.
>>64949245She's hot so I immediately forgive her.
>>64960122Nemisis wears an even more restrictive coat, if he can do it the other Tyrants can.
>>64960090The ones in damnation run even with their coats on. Given that we also see tyrants in game leap buildings I think they can run just fine in game too, they just don’t because of aura farming and to allow the player to have a chance
>>64960134They can jump pretty high, still can't run.>>64960133What makes you think Nemesis wears an even more restrictive coat? It looks pretty regular in the OG game.
>>64960138https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss89ltE5C3o2:45
>>64960151That's licensed fan fiction, why are you posting something irrelevant to Resident Evil?
>>64960138His coat is so tight it restricts his legs passed his knees, while Mr. X is just a big raincoat. They had to change it in the remake by giving him a loose jacket.
>>64960084>be borderline retard new species of ultra-monster>told to go and kill anyone I find in a general vicinity>whatever, kill multiple, maybe dozens of people, everything is a complete pushover>rookie cop and his biker girlfriend are stumbling around and opening locked doors for whatever reason>fuck it I don't get paid for this, I'll just waltz up to them and pummel their brains out of their skulls whenever I get a chance >oh they got a big box I don't recognize and wasn't briefed on>dieCan't really blame the monster here
>>64960294You're not seeing it from the side. Nemmy's coat has cuts on the sides so it stretches/allows full leg movement.
>>64960084They're heavily regulated and entirely untrained specimens that only know they're bigger, stronger and faster than everything else.It's what makes them vulnerable to things like rpg's and A-10 warthogs.People put them down as retarded, but unless that's in the lore, I honestly doubt it's fair. They didn't exactly go to school or learn to speak over months of study.But when you 'train' them, or just show them the local hazards that can bring them down, they quickly learn and adapt. Catching rpg's, dodging tank fire, using weapons and the like.Though given how dangerous they are already to anyone not a protagonist, that's probably the idea.
>>64940813Some part of me wants to see one of these dudes end up the next HUNK and undergo the Clone Wars humanization treatment now that the main man himself decided that he wanted to go out on a high note due to his illness. Iunno, BUNK, Bioweapon Unit, Never Killed.
>>64960325Those stapled/stitched lines is the side cut you are talking about and he has no side cuts anywhere else on either of his CGI model or his game model. He is genuinely just stretching that hard material with just his leg strength.
>>64960490Maybe it's just stretchy material? Either way his coat does not hinder his movement.
>>64960155Literally canon material, all the cgi movies happened according to capcom
>>64960751Officially licensed fanfiction is not canon.
>>64960754Based on your opinion or what lol, sorry your unsupported theories about the limiter coats restricting movement are wrong, I guess
>>64941063>a zombie dog costs $30 milpaid by the taxpayers lmao
>>64960877Since when did anybody consider fanfiction to be canon? Are you new here?
>>64960883The only fanfic here is your statement that tyrants can’t run because of their limiter coats restricting movement. The cgi movies are official licensed content, they are canon according to capcom. You are simply wrong
>>64960962Tyrants literally don't run in any game lmao
>>64960498Yeah this, play the game and you'll see that he moves like an 8' tall linebacker.
>>64960968Mr.X runs in the remake of 2 during Leon's boss fight with him.
>>64961503Super Tyrants can run, regular Tyrants cannot.
>>64961516Cope, Tyrants are just a classification of BOW that includes early experimental models like the T-001 or T-002 models from RE0/RE1 and later more specialized models like the Nemesis, Thanatos, Mr. X. Bandersnatches and even the T-501 from RE9. "Super Tyrants" are just Tyrants that have undergone uncontrollable mutations thanks to their inhibitor coats being removed. The coats themselves only prevent these random mutations as can be seen in RE damnatiom where T-013 Mr. X runs with his coat still on.
>>64961559Tyrants before mutation cannot or outright refuse to run. With exception of Nemesis.
>>64960411So according to Outbreak, multiple tyrant prototypes could only mindlessly kill anything near it, two nemesis prototypes became aware and tried to escape, Tyrant R broke his conditioning and knew exactly who to disable so he could attack the survivors unimpeded. Mr. X is hardwired to avoid certain sensitive areas (i have no idea why) and actively listen for suspicious sounds so he just comes the building at a walking pace. He's also not that bright
>>64961516Tomato tahmahto.
>>64959985>If you can alter the rules to say whatever you wantCan you read? My issue is you trying to apply realism to what you don’t like why also apply video game logic to the parts you do like. Pick one or the other nigger.
>>64959742>You need to pump hundreds of rounds just to incapacitate one of these guys.Again, video game logic. Even going by the game mechanics, a single round of .50 AE stops Mr. X for a little while. What does that do to any armored vehicle? Nothing. How many thousands and thousands of 5.56 would you have to fire at a Bradley to kill it?If we take the video game mechanics to the extreme, there’s a Cadillac Cage Commando armored car in RE2R. No amount of ammo damages it while in reality it’s only armored to 7.62 nato. >Soldiers shot thousands of rounds a week and only hit a couple of things.This is irrelevant and doesn’t even merit a response
>>64959804>Leon and Chris are in their 50sLeon has been infected by las plagas and cured. You can argue it slowed aging like Jill’s infection. Also he has perfect genetics. Chris has/had enough juice in his system to classify as a BOW.>and Claire by the events of requiem is categorically menopausal.Well duh. Why do you think Chris wanted her to get impregnated by Leon so badly? She got 3 cats. One was named Albert Whiskers.
>>64939958Useless.>slow>stupid>can be defeated with civilian small arms, you just need a lot>chimps out and goes out of control if damaged enough>can't use complex tools, or refuses (retard?)
>>64942967t. Chris
>>64961516>Super Tyrants can run, regular Tyrants cannot.No True Tyrant can run!
>>64939958>military asset>can't take on a rookie cop on the first day of the job
>>64940101>economy of scale (yet), since each Tyrant has a pricetag of ~$120,000,000there is also the whole "only one in a million people become Tyrants instead of Zombies" thing. That is why the G virus was originally needed as it would generate tyrants a lot more frequently.
>>64951700She had them frozen at Umbrella HQ
>>64940895The herbs in Racoon forest are just that good.
>>64941046Milla said in the commentary for the first "Hey I don't mean to interrupt you, but I just flashed a nipple." and the director says, "If you were really committed to the project, you'd have flashed both.", and she says, "I'm saving that for the sequel".And sure enough, in the sequel's DVD commentary track, right at the start, "Hey, remember when I said I'd flash both tits in the sequel?"
Mr. X is only useful in a zombie outbreak situation, he's too big to pass himself off as human, like the T-600 we see in Terminator: Salvation.And obviously the one in Requiem was weaker because he had no hat.Do all Tyrants turn into The Blob after getting shot and blown up enough, or just Nemesis?And what was Victor Gideon? Just a Nemesis parasite with no Tyrant?
>>64964395Gideon was a nemesis, specifically the Gamma version to the OG's Alpha version. In the intervening decades someone(s)improved on the design to the point that it was subordinate to the host's brain, instead of eating and replacing it.
>>64964378>"Hey, remember when I said I'd flash both tits in the sequel?"A great artist sacrifices for their art.
>>64951753the movies are funRE9 has grace, and unskippable walking segments
>>64939958Depends on how much realism you wanna have with the rest of your magic.IRL, an 8 foot clone with retard strength would still lose to a 9mm magdump. Step it up to .357 and it's probably a oneshot.
>>64966302>9mm magdump. Step it up to .357 and it's probably a oneshot.There's little practical difference between a 9mm+P (i.e. a duty loading) and a .357. Yes .357 is stronger, but not by an order of magnitude. It's marginally better.This isn't RE game logic.
>>64956864>Because that has to be including the cost of the entire production or else that's insane and retarded.>it'll be cheaper because...it just will okGreat logic>Most IFVs don't even have 360 HMG resistance let alone 40mm HEDP immunity.Lol in the 50s maybe. Not in the years since the games were made and now.
>>64966922As has been stated the 120 million is what the connections charges for them because they can't produce them on the same scale Umbrella could, also they're jews.
>>64953978What if Leon ended up marrying Jill or Rebecca?
>>64967205>What if Leon ended up marrying Jillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ1MRxfDAEIt's adorable
>>64966917Literally only true in cases of the hottest +P/+P+ 9mm loads and the lightest bullet-weight .357 defense loads (110gr, 125gr, etc.) in comparable barrel lengths. Beginning at 147gr and up to the bullet weights .357 was really intended for of 158gr and even 180gr, it’s not even close. Stop posting immediately.
>>64967589>an extra 10gr and 400-500fps makes a mag dump into a 1 shot stop>this your brain on fuddloreNigger a 147gr +P HST is 1000fps. A buffalo bore 158gr is 1485fps. Like I said, it’s stronger. In this context it has little practical difference. Both a .355” bullets of nearly the same weight. Despite the velocity difference both would produce similar wound channels and would do similar damage on flesh. Tyrants aren’t bigger than bears. Both rounds kill bears. If either is hitting the armored coats, doesn’t matter either, both rounds get stopped. Better yet, why do you think it takes a magdump (meaning at least 10 rounds) vs a single round of .357. Explain.
>>64966917Literally completely wrong. Gonna tell us that Magnum loads are just Specials from a snub barrel, too?
>>64967645>Nigger a 147gr +P HST is 1000fps. A buffalo bore 158gr is 1485fps.That's a colossal difference in handgun velocities, that's an even heavier projectile going almost 50% faster, are you fucking high?
>>64967674>Gonna tell us that Magnum loads are just Specials from a snub barrel, too?>if you said one thing you'll definitely say this other unrelated thingRead>>64967645>>64967680Again, how does that matter in this context? It doesn't. I repeat>Better yet, why do you think it takes a magdump (meaning at least 10 rounds) vs a single round of .357? Explain.It's a really simple question. Why didn't you answer?
>>64967645>A 7% increase in weight and an almost 50% increase in velocity would have no affect on its performancewhat. That would be like a 2.4x increase in energy according to some napkin math. That would have significant effects on both wound channels and armor penetration. Not quite one shot stop but it would be more visibly effective for sure.
>>64967645>>64967682You’re the nigger, here anon. A 147gr HST +P is not going to generate the same wound channel because it’s not going to penetrate even remotely as deeply as a 158gr .357 not only because the .357 is faster but because .357 loads available in 158gr+ bullet weights are usually either JSPs or hardcast lead. Even if it is a JHP, it’s usually a variety like a Hornady XTP which is designed to not expand as rapidly as the HST is. .357 Magnum allows for not only heavier bullet weights, but those heavier weights allow for better exploitation of the construction of a JSP or a hardcast lead because it will carry more momentum through the body than a, say, an equivalent 9mm Outdoorsman load from Buffalo Bore will. You literally cannot replicate .357s velocity and resultant penetration in 9mm without redesigning the case to handle stratospheric pressures, which has been done before and is called .356 TSW, but that’s not what we’re talking about, is it? Stop being such a Dunning-Krueger faggot and actually kill something with these rounds.
>>64967790>>64967808>Better yet, why do you think it takes a magdump (meaning at least 10 rounds) vs a single round of .357? Explain.Just answer it. And post your .357s>inb4 taurus
>>64967790>That would have significant effects on both wound channels and armor penetration. Also, if we’re talking standard rounds neither beats even IIIA. If we get into the all copper variants, both do. It’s a moot point. Again. This is a IIIA panel punched through (and the 2x4) by a 68gr Lehigh XD from a 3” hellcat barrel.
>>64968139Not him, but>Taurus
>>64968139A Taurus. And a Taurus with no timestamp no less.
>>64968204Says the guy who can’t answer a simple question and doesn’t post his .357
>>64968261Not the guy you're talking to, faggot, just an observer.
>>64968139If you had any reading comprehension you’d see how he answered it here >>64967808 but you also own a Taurus, so…
>>64941036
>>64968139>Just answer it. And post your .357sNTA but I don't think they realised you were talking about Brazilian revolvers.That's not really a fair comparison.
>>64968191>>64968204>>64968262>>64968295>>64968893>all this deflection about TaurusKek called it. Why can none of you niggers answer this?>Better yet, why do you think it takes a magdump (meaning at least 10 rounds) vs a single round of .357? Explain.The "magdump of 9mm? vs 1 round of .357 is completely wrong. There's no world where that applies. And now that I dug my other (inherited) .357 out, what's your cope now?
>>64969171>Kek called itI just wanted to make that first reply since I thought it would be funny to do.
>>64940946this is some kind of a fan animation?
Who is more /k/ pilled, leon or chris?Leon>vp70>kendo usp frankengun>two vp70 knock-offs>glock 26>TRP Operator>custom akmsu>custom p226>deagle brand deagle>model v10 ultra compact >custom p320>rsh-12Chris>samurai edge>glock 17>m92fs>PT909>pseudo ACR>new model samurai edge>made up auto shotgun >USW-A1>custom mini draco>m93r>m4a1 custom>benelli m3
>>64939958far too expensive for what they can actually do. almost ALL the custom bows that umbrella makes/breeds are too expensive. you'd be more effective making a short acting airborne version of the t virus and use it in a missle than releasing retarded ass zombie dogs that can be taken out by bubba
>>64939958why in the fuck did modern umbrella keep on fucking around with dumb infectious monstrosities when they have near perfect cloning tech? why sell zombie dogs when you can sell mass produced celebrity sex slaves? obviously retards like wesker or oswel have had other motivations but how has no umbrella employee ever stole that cloning tech?
So which armed unit is better, USS or UBCS?
>>64969859I'd imagine most of their business would have been replacement organs and limbs even if that was the case. Of course, you wouldn't hate them as much as you're supposed to if you kept finding random notes and audio logs that mentioned all the spare limbs and anti-aging treatments they kept making, and if anyone else did start copying those things, no one would be complaining, and those selling nicer products wouldn't want to get their hands dirty with a bunch of bioweapon shit, so they'd be irrelevant to the games. It's Resident Evil, not Resident Mostly Good With A Few Catastrophically Horrible Ideas. Oh and more specifically, there's probably copyright laws covering full body cloning in that setting. Not that they ever stopped the arms dealers, but the arms dealers are useful in the unending realpolitik games the elites play against each other with our lives. Clones would more notably be used to have a copy do something and blame the original more often than actual sex slaves, because it's probably cheaper to kidnap, buy, or mislead to consent, a destitute person, who fell into a series of increasingly wrong crowds, who no one important cares about. And you can make the paper trail be for things like art or charity donations. Actually buying a clone is harder to cover up, costs more up front, and the maintenance costs are the same. ...Someone might set up a celebrity clone prostitute service though. But those aren't as fun to fight so wouldn't be in the game.
>>64969784Barry, he was the only one in the games who actually had autism about guns. He was the one who designed the samurai edges with Kendo. His samurai edge was in .40 SW so he was also retarded.
>>64969940It was also burst fire too lol. Honestly pretty based to use police funds to design the most absurd service handgun you can.
>>64969940the remake samurai edges are gay and don't count
>>64969861USS is supposed to be the elite of the elite, spec ops team you send in to kill everyone and secure an objective, UBCS are mercs hired for actual security and generally not expected to be waging war or doing wetwork, the teams sent in 3 were btfo pretty quickly and used to test BOWs on when it was clear they couldn’t contain the outbreak
>>64969763I’ll give you that one, I did chuckle
>>64969784Leon. He is also autistic with women and swoons over an Asian that won’t fuck him.
>>64969784Out of the two? Chris. The VP70 is a cool collectible, but an objectively shit 9mm pistol from a practical point of view. The true /k/ommando's choice for an eclectic 9mm with a roomy dual feed magazine would be the Steyr GB, since it works a lot better, and is more mechanically exotic.It doesn't have the cool burst mechanic, but the VP70 doesn't exactly use that very well, just like the normal pistol by itself, it works out like an awkward kludge.The 'Samurai Edge' Beretta 92 is a much better pistol than the VP70 too, and being customized with some generally worthwhile features (Brig slide, adjustable target sights), and can with modern day mags match the VP70's capacity.The regular old Beretta 93r is a much better machinepistol too, and just looks cooler.>>64969940True, he's the real deal.>His samurai edge was in .40 SW so he was also retarded.It was a big meme at the time, but making the .40 also be three-round burst makes it sorta based, in a retarded kind of way.>>64969976Considering that the actual handgun he was carrying for RE1 and REmake wasn't a Beretta (in either caliber, and customized or not), but a revolver, it may very well be that his Samurai Edge was just a fun side project for him.In RE1 he carries a Colt Python, .357 Magnum, and in the remake he carries a customized Colt Anaconda, .44 Magnum
>>64964327The Mr. X were clones of a dude who did have the right genes before he turned himself into a BOW in one of the games.
>>64970324He has his samurai edge in Revelations 2 where he's a playable character.
>>64969171If only you’d inherited IQ and reading comprehension along with it.
>>64970324>The VP70 is a cool collectible, but an objectively shit 9mm pistol from a practical point of viewIt's the best handgun hands down....in James Bond Roleplaying Game.With the stock fitted, it had 2/round firing rate which pushed it above the DPS of a Browning HP (among the automatics).I acknowledge that this doesn't move the needle on IRL practicalities.
>>64946398MMA. UFC top execs would shit blood for a match like that
>>64970556>MMA. UFC top execs would shit blood for a match like thatImagine the future where Umbrella is the most popular and beloved company on the planet because all disease has been cured, people live in perfect health and every Saturday night, people crowd around big screens to watch the tyrant-bowl blood match.
>>64949457>You could probably make a sitcom about Spencer and his cabal of lunatic scientists exasperating the government and financial side of company.kino.
>>64970574>You could probably make a sitcom about Spencer and his cabal of lunatic scientists exasperating the government and financial side of companyThere's probably some kind of corporate sitcom that revolves around coke-sniffing, whoring executives trying to manage amoral, mad-scientist lunatics.
>>64970566Not interested. Fighting is only compelling when they have stakes, you know the fucktards involved in pic related are one wrong move from homelessness and child abuse arrests. You know the CTE death spiral will be legendary. BOWs are just dumb robots as boring as Battlebots (which died to lack of views)I like seeing the Nate Diazs of the world fall into the void as destined by their shit childhood.
>>64970618These guys are a combination of failed footballers, military veterans hard up for money, and bouncers looking for a way out. The desperation makes it compelling. A rat scrambling to survive.That's why fighting is worth watching.
>>64970556You'd think, but the current matchmakers at the UFC are pretty much incapable of putting a fight together these days.The guys over at Rizin would absolutely love to have a Tyrant on their roster though. Hell, that's basically what Bob Sapp was back when PRIDE FC was still a thing.
>>64970641because dana white is a fat faggot who wont pay his fighters for shit.
>>64970720Dana White isn't in charge hasn't been for quite some time now. That fat fuck exists solely as a figurehead the matchmakers can deflect blame onto.
>>64946390>They’re pretty stupid in the grand scheme of things. It’s not like they can be precise (not sure why you need precise demolition from them anyway). Even if they achieved economies of scale with production they’ll never be cheaper than explosives.the point isn't precision, it's embedding one in a squad and having its handler tell it "ok punch a hole in that wall"
>>64970595It's literally called Corporate. Most of the show's about management being woefully incompetent, but there are a handful of episodes about the company's evil shit getting out of hand
>>64970618???is this ai?no way niggers colliding like that head on is actually anything real and being watched in an arena by people? like wtf?
>>64970556>two identical personality voidsnot one single dime
>>64970974Or having the 8 foot tall highly visible bulletmagnet draw fire while the rest of the squad gets into position.
>>64970556I like where your head is at. That said, NFL and NBA makes way more money. Tyrants also have zero personality so that wouldn’t be a good draw in fighting sports.What they could do is make their own league and have BOWs fight each other in a gladiator arena setup. How many lickers does it take to get to the center of tyrant? How do zombie dogs stack up against hunters? Hell, get death row inmates to sign up for commuted sentences or to earn lots of money for their families. Host it in Somalia so people don’t complain about “laws” and “ethics”. Or use their fucking Antarctica base for that matter.
>>64970974>let’s spend tens of millions (or more) on this 8’ tall retard >require a designed tard wrangler in squad>for the same thing that can be complain with a $50 worth of C4Yeah, that makes sense
>>64971081It's real and it's one of the dumbest, niggerest sports that exists on this planet. Look up Run Nation Championship if you want to lose some braincells. [spoiler]But not as much as the people participating.[/spoiler]
>>64971811and i thought powerslap was as low as it could go
>>64959573>If you can alter the rules to say whatever you wantNigger I'm holding you to the original situation I laid out.>Ok fine then single round of regular 5.56Thanks for proving you're a pouting child.Nemesis, completely unarmored, was able to walk off an entire platoon of US special forces and Umbrella black ops opening up on him in a warehouse from all sides, setting him on fire, throwing grenades at him, etc in a nonstop barrage that lasted several minutes. Nemesis is not physically more resilient than the Tyrants he just heals better. >>64959112>Nigger you're saying they won't cost $120M without saying whyBecause the only way that's realistic is if it's including the development cost, which is astronomical. Once you have the working model you can just clone him for practically fucking nothing. Umbrella, with a fully operational lab and a working stable tyrant, can print them off like those shitty lab grown hamburgers. >Very nice of you to gloss over the provable specifics on IFVs you previously claimed. Why didn't you prove those?BMPs 1-3 are in use at this very moment and none of them have 360 protection against 40mm HEDP let alone anything bigger.>When did Claire, Leon, or Jill do this?Leon walks straight through a special forces team in his last game where if anything he's been substantially toned down compared to when he was killing his way through an entire army in RE4>Furthermore, why does that matter?You brought up the in game characters as a measuring stick, as if being killed by "single individuals" was some damming event when those individuals routinely do things that are completely physically impossible.
>>64969940Better round compared to 9mm9mm should have been deprecated in the RE universe since they don't work even against normal zombies
