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discuss the implications of these mighty weapons :)
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>>64941731
and Iran and Houthichads will sink that carrier shit group like the two before it
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>>64941731
>the implications
the war is going to last longer than anybody wants, kill more americans than anybody wants, and cost more money than anybody wants.
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>>64941735
>mfw
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>Eastern Med
Relieving Ford, I guess? I don't see why they'd need two carriers there.
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>>64941739
>ziggers mad
>>64941741
ford just moved south through the Suez into the red sea, they're not being relieved
it's about to get spicy
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>>64941741
A third?
A third to relieve a turd
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It already sink. NAFO is finnish)))))
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>>64941731
the Ford finally filled up with poo so it's being recalled before it achieves Indian status
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>>64941745
Anon I love that Iran and russia are being BTFO, we're just doing it in the dumbest way possible
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>>64941731
Curious, why would they need to add more unless the initial ones were damaged?

Could it be that /pol/ is always right?
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These are the greatest weapons in America. Iran will lose their fucking ass thirty thousand times in the blink of an eye, and America will get tired of... all... the... fuckin'... winning. Tomorrow, there will be no shortage of the biggest boats you have ever seen. No shortage of the finest servicemen and women in this great... country. I know you understand. I know the Ayatollah doesn't understand... because he's dead.
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>>64941731
You don't even have 1.
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>>64941760
Well said Mr. President
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>>64941745
I don't get it
Why would Egypt let US carriers through to bomb Iran I thought the Arab world was against the Israeli ZoG war against Iran
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>>64941731
did the second manage to fuck off before being sunk?
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>>64941767
topkek
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America is too powerful. Please nerf.
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>>64941767
Isn't egypt on the edge of collapse 24/7?
Fertilizer and oil prices going up could unironically push them over
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>>64941745
>America needs three carriers
>This isn't a sign that the operation isn't as easy as expected
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>>64941763
We are the most powerful military force in the history of man. Israel's fight is our fight. Because what happens over there, matters over here. We don't get to sit one out. Learning to use the tools of modern warfare is the difference between the prospering of American military... dominance, and utter destruction. We're gonna give you so much freedom. You'll say "oh mr president we're tired of all this freedom!". And that, my friends, is worth more than a whole army base of steel. Sure it matters who's got the biggest package - Melania really likes my 2000lb JDAM, but it matters a helluva lot more who's swinging it. I'm swinging it. This is a time for heroes. A time for legends. History is written by the victors. Let's get to work.
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>>64941767
at this point iran has more "allies" on reddit and twitter than in the real world
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>>64941779
>no, you can't rotate airframes and ships so maintenance can be done
>those sailors need to stay out there for as long as it takes, it'll make'em salty
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>>64941781
it isn't even being an ally it would be neutrality to refuse transit to warships during a conflict
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>>64941745
>ford just moved south through the Suez into the red sea, they're not being relieved
BRING thise poor boys and pregnant girls home!
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>>64941780
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>>64941731
How many did we have for both Iraqi invasions?
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>>64941760
>>64941780
Too poetic for orange man.
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>>64941779
We used like six when we invaded Iraq.
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>>64941797
2+6 for 1990/91
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>>64941760
>>64941780
>camo cloak
Now I want one. Do they come in snow leopard camo?
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>>64941731
that seems unnecessary
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Ford's EMALS is starting to fail. Too much sorties.
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>>64941797
About half of them. But most of our aircraft were land based in those dust-ups, the navy has a lot of planes but the air force has several craptons of them.
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>>64941757
>we're just doing it in the dumbest way possible
I'm not sure what other way this ends that doesn't involve iran getting it's command and military bombed to dust. What other option have they left open? Trying to play nice with an outright hostile state for so long was kind of retarded in the first place, and now everyone in the region hates them and might even tag in on the train the US and Israel are running.
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>>64941785
So is a carrier being pulled out?

>>64941806
So is a ground invasion being planned?

Unless a ship is being rotated out this seems like Trump thought a week of strikes and killing the Iranian leader would topple the regime and that it failed in that regard.
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>>64941801
>Too poetic for orange man
He has people for that, silly.
>>64941806
>We used like six when we invaded Iraq
They were literally bumping into each other like they had woman captains!
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>>64941818
No, they're being rotated
Israeli requested a fresh crew and Zognald complied immediately
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>>64941818
>Trump thought a week of strikes and killing the Iranian leader would topple the regime and that it failed in that regard.
It's literally just day 5.
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>>64941760
I said don't cry, Ayatollah, don't cry. I wouldn't have cried.
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>>64941830
Rent free.
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>>64941818
Has a bombing campaign ever in history toppled a government that was on the receiving end? Serious question I don't read a lot
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>>64941841
You know the US didn't do a ground invasion of Japan, right?
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>>64941810
NTA, just came here from /gq/. Multicam black or multicam alpine unless they're willing to do a custom. The fur collar is detachable so you can swap it with any other collar that uses buttons and elastic loops.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809682841789.html?
Pic rel is mine, just got it in this morning.
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>>64941731
If I was the chinks, I would try to take Taiwan now
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>>64941841
Libya
Cambodia
Japan
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>>64941846
The Soviets did and that was what caused the army to concede owari da
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>>64941864
They have to invent functioning AD before they can invade Taiwan.
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>>64941760
That's my President!
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>>64941864
While 30% of your energy imports are blocked? That's when you'd do it? Retard kun...
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>>64941780
>Israel's fight
Iran was fucking with the Strait and international shipping, and Israel was an excuse.
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>>64941792
May we see these sunk carriers
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>>64941864
If you was the chinks, you'd get your asses handed to you the same day you tried.
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>>64941871
Yes
t. Tojo
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>>64941877
We're ready to kill over international shipping
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>>64941879
Ask James Cameron or Paul Allen (not that one the other one)
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>>64941792
>ooga booga we sink carrier!
>*dies to airstrikes*
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>>64941875
Fifty social credit points have been added to your acount.
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>>64941894
How is that supporting China?
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>>64941916
It's not we're getting fucked in the ass and trying to keep the lights on...
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>>64941864
Fantastic idea, retard-kun! You should be a think tank strategist! You're like a young Jim Cramer, but for the military!
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>>64941864
Why? Did something happen to the other 8 carrier strike groups the US has in its global fleets? Or the military bases in South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines? Or the nuclear submarines in the Pacific? If not, then I don't think Taiwan is exposed to any more danger than it was two weeks ago.
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>>64941760
Spot on.
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>>64941767
All the Arab cunts stand with US and Israel. Iran is a retarded freak nobody (even 'allies' like China) wants to support now that they spilled their spaghetti
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>>64941767
Iran chimped out and bombed the whole middle east for no reason so everyone hates them now.
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>>64941937
did stephen miller tell you to make this thread and samefag this much
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>>64941864
Great idea just after losing VZ and Iranian exports (Cuba gone soon as well)
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>>64941949
no but I jerk to Katie millers armpits and feet
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>>64941864
With what prepared invasion force?
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>>64941760
My childhood has prepared me for this day mister president.
https://youtu.be/FXLY_5xaYFo?list=RDFXLY_5xaYFo&t=42
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>>64941879
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>>64941879
and this one >>64941749
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>>64941867
Manchuria is in Japan?
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>>64942009
It's rightful Japanese clay.
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>>64941792
Carrier aircraft like the F35?
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>>64942009
Japan invaded and annexed Manchuria in 1931 after the Mukden incident. Other nations didn't recognize the annexation claim.
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>>64942009
He's one of those "nukes were to stop the soviets from invading japan" guys. Ignore the fact that the soviets had absolutely no way to transport that number of troops or conduct opposed landings
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>>64941884
Paul allen died years ago
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>>64941958
There is enough chinese. just ship them over there and some will land.
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Hey since this is the shitposting thread I just want to share something funny/interesting that I happened across today, while reading about the history of Sesame Street of all things.

>Ulitsa Sezam (Russian: Улицa Ceзaм) is the Russian production of the children's television program Sesame Street. The show was first released in 1996 and went off the air in 2010.[3][4]

>History
>In 1993 Sesame Workshop recruited Natasha Lance Rogoff to produce Ulitsa Sezam.[3][5] It was funded by Russian advertising agency VideoArt and the U.S. Agency for International Development.[6] A total of 279 Russians were recruited to help develop and produce the series, and the show's budget totaled US$6 million.[7][8] Production began in 1994.[9]

>The initial creation of this series proved difficult with a myriad of complications like cultural clashes with prospective native talent.

>Some of the first scripts produced by the Russian team included "lecturing, tough-talking adults," which CTW pushed back on.[10] Other scripts tended towards fantasy or the idea of leaving the country.[7] In response, CTW encouraged the script writers to "create a childhood that they [envisioned] for a future generation of Russians", rather than to try and emulate their own childhoods.[10]

>Cultural clashes were also present during auditions; most of the children auditioning for the show "sat back in their chairs and started to sing very sad songs," which startled the American producers.[10]

>There were other problems like the assassinations of some of the production's local business partners, serious financial difficulties by the production's major local producer, and a military raid on the studio in which vital materials were seized.

>tl;dr in the '90s, the producers of Russian Sesame Street got FUCKING MURDERED and THE ARMY STOLE ALL THE PRODUCTION EQUIPMENT
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>>64942051
I am once again reminded that this board is filled with ignoramuses
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>>64941757
Wait, I thought Russia was finished 4 years ago?
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>>64942051
I too think the chinese have had the upper hand on sharks for far too long
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>>64942072
you cannot stop a 80 million man woman child migration era style mass aggressive immigration.
It is the perfect tactic.
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>Some of the first scripts produced by the Russian team included "lecturing, tough-talking adults," which CTW pushed back on.[10] Other scripts tended towards fantasy or the idea of leaving the country.
> most of the children auditioning for the show "sat back in their chairs and started to sing very sad songs,"
Yes, of course this is what Russian Sesame Street would be like

>There were other problems like the assassinations of some of the production's local business partners, serious financial difficulties by the production's major local producer, and a military raid on the studio
fucking hell, they can't even make programming for children no wonder they can't make war
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>>64942087
There's no way the chinese would ever commit to making bridge of corpses across the taiwan strait.
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>>64941889
lel
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>>64941731
>USS George H.W. Bush
of course
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>>64942041
It's kind of both. It's not that the nukes alone caused it, but there was some idea that if the USSR was a neutral party they might be able to tard wrangle the US to the negotiating table in a reverse Roosevelt/Russo Japanese war situation. People forget technically the USSR was neutral by that point wrt Japan. They could tank a few nukes and lay on the diplomacy enough and maybe eke out some concessions.

It's when the USSR declared war and began operations themselves that they really shit the bed. Not because the Soviet army was unstoppable but more that there were no other options but fighting and dying, or unconditional surrender and there wasn't anyone they could use as a Switzerland or Sweden over there anymore, everyone wanted them dead.
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>>64942069
whatthe fuck
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>>64942097
He returns from beyond the grave for yet another war in the gulf.
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>>64942098
>ussr was neutral
Nah, they explicitly agreed to attack japan once germany had been dealt with. We had already started supplying them with the sea lift capabilities to allow for this, but the need never arose
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>>64942121
I'm not disagreeing, but this is what JAPAN thought, not what the allies thought. We knew the Russkies were gonna get into the fight. The surprise was never ours.
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>>64941841
>>64941846
>>64941866
Zanzibar had the equivalent, too. Sultan started shit with the Brits, formally declared war, a ship in the harbor immediately put an explosive shell through his palace wall, he surrendered and handed over the government in under an hour.
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>>64942113
At this point I think Jeb might run again in 2028 because whatever aliens run this zoo like really fucked up dark comedies.
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>>64941731
daily reminder
The US forced Japan to surrender without using ground troops on its main islands
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>>64942069
>mfw reading this
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>>64941731
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Aircraft carriers are not real
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>>64941731
Gee Iran! How come you get 3 carriers to give you a spanking?
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>>64942379
yeah but they're not gonna nuke iran
right? right?
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>>64942383
it sounds pretty mundane to me
the sesame street company in the US didnt know that the producers were involved with the russian mob so it came as a shock to them but ... that's how things go
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>>64941731
US should send USS Ronald Reagan to fuck up Iran.
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>>64942407
Why?
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>>64942379
A small "fun fact" about that, the Soviets were being given transport boats by the US because the USSR had no means to (nor had they ever successfully) pull off a waterborne invasion. They thought they were going to be able to invade Japan but then the nukes were dropped. USSR was still recieving the boats in September 1945 apparently unaware it was over by that point.
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>>64941739
Please stop, my erection is consuming too much of my life sustaining blood supply.
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>>64941731
I'm waiting for the French carrier to show up.
Going to be a hoot.
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>>64941731
Damn, NAVAIR chads be eating good.
Cant have those airforce pukes get all the glory.
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>>64941835
Two more days
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>>64942543
i don't understand why we need USN here and do attacks out of international waters. Iran already attacked all her surrounding countries, so getting full USAF basing rights should be easy.
air bases on soil are superior to floating ones.
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>>64942550
god-willing the USAF will just fuck shit up and leave then iran will pretend nothing happened and Trump somehow has to spin that as a victory after saying all the stupid shit he has said
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>>64942556
USAF hardly has any air assets there compared to USN. those USAF assets are busy defending US bases and Israel. USN are the ones bombing Iran.
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>>64942554
Beyond the basic bitch math that
>more assets = gooder
Im guessing there's a lot of opportunities here for stress testing the whole system, combat proving TTPs and technologies and get people(especially line officers) rotated through a combat zone.
And probably a bit of inter service rivalry with the air force as well.
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>>64942580
i question the soundness of deploying 50% of the USN to Iran.
in theory US Armed Forces should always be capable of two LSCOs. this is cutting it close and it's only some third-world shithole.
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>>64941767
The Iranians are even bombing places like Azerbaijan, it's no wonder they're running out of friends and neutrals
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>>64942604
what do you mean even? those countries were never on good terms. why do you think more Azerbaijan people live in Iran than in Azerbaijan? Iran didn't get those peacefully.
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>>64942598
Its the only shooting war going on right now that they can take active part in(Unless Xi YOLO's it in to Taiwan) and there are real operational lessons to be learned. The threats are in some sense China adjacent, Ballistic missiles, Drones, anti ship missiles so there's real valuable combat experience to be learned.
And hell, maybe they'll need those when the Houthis decided to chimp out.
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>>64942605
it's not an inherent conflict, russia took some turks and persia still had the others but it was no big deal before nationalism. tsar wanted tabriz in the next war. but that tsar died and the next one thought central asia was more promising. so they were divided.
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>>64941731
Air support for a ground invasion?
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>>64942687
I have said this before and been wrong but there's no way Trump is that beholden to Israel to start a ground war
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>>64942697
He is beholden to Evangelicals seeking Armageddon. Jews are only using this for their own benefits.
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>>64941731
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>>64942687
no, no troops there for any ground invasion. US Army didn't even forward-deploy a single BCT yet.
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>>64942604
The azeris are the closest thing the pissraelis have to a regional ally
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>>64942710
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/10th-mountain-deployment-2026/
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>>64942697
Depends if they have a videotape of him raping a child or not
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>>64942727
>The unit rotation, while routine [...]
not counting those
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>>64942533
frogs are already there
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>>64941731
Why doesn't china attack taiwan now? 3 csg tied up in iran is their best opportunity. They'll never getting a better chance than this
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>>64942774
not part of the do nothing plan
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>>64942774
clearly you've never been out in the sea.
crossing the taiwan strait in fucking march is suicide. the sea will swallow you.
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>no troop transports

I sleep. Without an invasion + occupation, this war is doomed to fail.
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>>64942810
Not a war. There was no formal declaration.
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>>64942810
no one wants troops on the ground in Iran. if they do it this will instantly become the least popular engagement since late stage Iraq. Iran also lacks the popular mandate of its people so it has nothing to fall back on when its military assets are eviscerated
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>>64942812
>can't lose the war if you don't call it a war
50% brilliant, 50% retarded
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>>64942810
the war is doomed to fail because Trump pushes for regime change. with troops it'd simply fail more expensively.
but don't worry after they fuck off Trump will declare it the most beautiful, peaceful successful war of all time and that now the Iranian people are free
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They should rename its escort destroyers as George W. and Jeb
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>>64942823
Why?
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>>64942817
He will let it linger and use it as a reason for cancelling midterms.
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>>64942829
fun
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>>64941731
Look, this is one of the most successful wars of all time. We're decimating them. I was told, 100 million Iranians. Now today? Only 90 million Iranians.
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>>64942783
>Want to conquer Taiwan
>Can't even conquer their own coast
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>>64942779
>>64942783
But the missile did work and kill the supreme leader of Iran.
Why didn't China just do the same and assassinate Taiwanese leadership?
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>>64941731
thanks for saving russia mutts
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>>64942895
same reason killing the ayatollah does nothing, they elect another
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>>64942896
nah, even if trump does his very best and jumps through every hoop to help them they're still fucked
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>>64942899
oil rocketing back up to $100 (and growing) is a bitch though, ziggerstan's going to start earning cash again unless Total Tanker Death becomes an actual goal
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>>64942913
>depleats weapon stocks so the next guy won't be able to help NATO
not an issue, Europe apparently can apparently handle this with or without us. all they needed was ukraine
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>>64942913
>propagates another shitskin rapefugee crisis to fuck over europe
not an issue, just shoot them or blow up their ships. literally stop being gay. you can do things too you are not inert.
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>>64941749
Why is Colphne laughing at me?
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>>64942919
too many countries rely on american arms, especially mine, and ukraine war showed that one retard in dc can make all those weapon systems useless, just like with HIMARS, not to mention f35 that can be grounded remotely
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>>64942929
okay, im not canadian so i cant apologize for shit i didnt and wouldnt do but you seem to understand the solution is to make more
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My only critique of these news is that Trump didn't rename USS Bush into something more stylish, like USS TurboDestroyer 47.
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>>64942953
after it is sunk by shaheed he will order that it be renamed USS Sleepy Joe
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>>64942929
welcome to military contracts. everyone has stipulations. even making your own shit won't save you, the pressure just moves to your parts catalog.
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>>64941880
>Columbia class
Wrong image. We can’t even get those built and they won’t enter service for another couple of years. Ohio SSGNs unloading tomahawks into China would be kino though
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>>64941731

Its completely meaningless as escalation. The carrier aircrafts are already in theater and flying missions. Its not like they are tied to the carrier with a string. This is just USN presencemaxxing so that they can defend their share of military funding.


>>64941739
>the war is going to last longer than anybody wants, kill more americans than anybody wants, and cost more money than anybody wants.

Thats standard operation procedure for America. Its very rare that things go to plan. Its usually like this: first things go to plan, then they start going sideways, and then they go off the cliff, and then comes the skedaddle, but as long as the war never reaches American shores, America will never tire of war, so a couple of years later, its time for another go.
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>>64941818
>So is a ground invasion being planned?

Ground action is inevitable at this point. USMC has to go in and secure the islands and coast of the Hormuz start, at minimum. EU NATO will be told to send "peacekeeper" troops to "enforce peace" or else. They will obey.
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>>64941739
>kill more americans than anybody wants
I'm pretty sure it's not gonna kill more Americans than turdies want.
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>>64941767
egypt stopping passage through the suez canal is an act of war
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>>64943028
>>64941739
>>64943034
To give you guys a comparison

>Russian Deep Battle with masculine characteristics to conquer HATO
median 221 deaths per day, three villages in Donbass liberated

>fake American tranny battle to lose to Iran
median 1 death per day, entire Iranian government, air force and navy destroyed
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>>64942832
There is no mechanism for the federal government to cancel elections short of deploying the military to every single polling place in the US. Stop fearmongering you fucking retard
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>>64943047
Day 8 of the two day SMO to denazify Ukraine: 14,000 zigger deaths

Day 8 of the two week SMO to de hajjify Iran: 6 burger deaths
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>>64942706
>11 months deployment

Things have got to be getting weird on that ship.
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>>64943048
You can bet Trump will say "but Zelensky can do that!"
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>>64941739
it is going to last as long as it needs to in order to eradicate brownoid scum, and those who die literally signed up for it
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>>64942913
Increase in oil demand just funded Russias military for another 5 years lol
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>>64943120
you may mock me but that's the truth
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>>64942913
>Russia has lost a lot of production, refinement, and transportation capacity, limiting the positive effects of higher oil prices
>Russia is still sanctioned to hell and having to sell oil at steep discounts and in unfavorable trade deals to convince buyers to take the risk
>its tanker fleets remain vulnerable to international intervention
>expanding pipeline capacity is both expensive and time-consuming
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>>64943097
imagine the gay anal sex
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>>64943122
I'm agreeing with you
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>>64942913
I disagree with you.
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>>64943127
Washington is currently floating temporarily lifting sanctions on Russian oil to ease price shocks
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>>64943127
>Russia has lost a lot of production, refinement, and transportation capacity, limiting the positive effects of higher oil prices
it still can can produce oil, and send it to jeets and chinks
>Russia is still sanctioned to hell and having to sell oil at steep discounts and in unfavorable trade deals to convince buyers to take the risk
zion don is working on lifitng the sanctions, and with the oil prices shitshow the discount may have ended
>its tanker fleets remain vulnerable to international intervention
still they can get "accidentaly" permited to use panama cannal, so they can bypass EU blocades
>expanding pipeline capacity is both expensive and time-consuming
thing is they still have a lot of soviet era pipelines expandin eastward, and if AfD wins in krautniggeria they will start rebuilding nordstream 2
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>>64943099
Then glowies can activate another Crooks.
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>>64943048
>There is no mechanism for the federal government to cancel elections
And the supreme court's injunction will get lost in traffic and arrive at the white house on the Friday after the elections were supposed to take place.
Laws haven't even slowed donnie down, I'm not saying that he's going to go full dictator (I don't think he has the mental or physical energy to complete his term, let alone contemplate another) but if he were to, laws would not be the thing that stops him.
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>>64943120
>Increase in oil demand
You need to normalise that against the number of tankers getting seized. It might be more than 1/day now.

No, that's not enough to stop the flow of oil but it's a loss rate that effectively cuts oil revenue by 1/3 or something.
Not profit, revenue. All the costs associated with those ships, including any promises about reimbursement if they're seized, have to be paid and there's no revenue from them. Those costs have to be covered by the ones that made it through, only then do you have actual profits.
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>>64943028
>This is just USN presencemaxxing
I think it's essentially a rotation and as a contingency, a forward deployment that lets one of the other CSGs redeploy from the Gulf to North Asia.

Having another CSG in the Eastern Med means that one of the other two can be relieved and refreshed without great delay, either from the Gulf in Perth or for the Med, anywhere really.
But if China kicks off, bouncing an extra carrier from the Gulf over to Japan/Taiwan requires having a carrier in the region to cover that job in the Gulf and it won't take that long to bring something from Eastern Med via the Suez and half the aircraft would go directly anyway.

Haha, imagine them launching strike missions off a carrier while cruising down the Suez Canal. Or landing on it for that matter.
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>>64943142
>if AfD wins in krautniggeria they will start rebuilding nordstream 2
>they won't win
>it would just explode again

Do you really think the Baltics or Scandies will tolerate that pipeline being open again?
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>>64941864
changs are shitting bricks right now with their oil imports disturbed
that and prep for invasion would take months. they are way too late
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>>64941767
this is literally what /pol/ thinks haha
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>>64943128
its the US navy we are talking about, not the russian one
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>>64943127
>expanding pipeline capacity is both expensive and time-consuming
and chinks want them to pay for it
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>>64943201
>any navy
>no gay anal sex
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>>64943201
Nah, there’s plenty of gay sex in the USN.
It’s the rape bit that’s fairly unique to Russia.
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>>64942069
They truly are orcs. Holy shit.
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>>64943253
>Nah, there’s plenty of gay sex in the USN.
I'm told there's a lot more straight sex though, especially on carriers.
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>>64941731
Yaaay. Another forever war!
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>>64942604
Hilarious the PM of Iran just cucked himself and apologized for bombing all their neighbors. The lunatics are running the asylum over there
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>>64942774
This is a great way for Xi to wake up in a federal prison in nyc
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>>64943289
>Yaaay. Another forever war!
ikr

I'm stoked too
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>>64943295
>Hilarious the PM of Iran just cucked himself and apologized for bombing all their neighbors. The lunatics are running the asylum over there
I think in this case, the lunatics were unsupervised because the supervisor was dead and they were just doing whatever they could think of.

When the Iranian FM (I think) said that this was ancient contingency plans and/or junior officers cut off from HQ acting on their own initiative...I tend to believe it.
It's a very plausible explanation.
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>>64941767
First of all, Iranians are Persian (as they're so quick to remind everyone) so they're not Arab brothers. Second, their stupid fuck fuck games with the Houthis hurt Egypt the most since they make a lot of money off the Suez. If anything Egypt has the biggest axe to grind
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>>64941767
The moment Egypt decides to close the Suez for American warships Israelis will march down the Sinai and re-open it by force
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>>64942598
>deploying 50% of the USN to Iran.
3 carrier groups isn't even 50% of the carriers, much less 50% of the navy.
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>>64942069
>"sat back in their chairs and started to sing very sad songs," which startled the American producers.[10]
It was 90s Russia, of course it was depressing as shit! What were these producers expecting?
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>>64943177
>You need to normalise that against the number of tankers getting seized. It might be more than 1/day now.

A blockage, no matter the reason, is an act of war. America is using the same ship seizing tactics its used against Venezuela and Iran and the russians would be rather daft if they cant see whats coming. It would be kind of ironic if America using Ukraine to exhaust Russia turns into China using Russia to exhaust Europe and America because the chinks are the ultimate goal in this creeping war and they know it. That would be a war America cannot skedaddle from but also a war the majority of americans would refuse to participate in and refusing the draft officer means that you go into a pental assault battallion instead with enlisted barrier troops behind you.

Sweden just seized a grain ship going to St. Petersburg because "unclear papers". Its just a nonsense pretext for a sea blockage. Ofc this was done in cooperation with the american ambassador and NATO HQ. Sweden has next to no armed forces and no real army, navy or air force and is 100% expecting America to pick up the slack. Do you think this is going to happen with America engaged with Iran? The swedes do.
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>>64942929
I'm going to reduce your testicles to dust if you say that retarded killswitch meme again. Shut the fuck up agitprop nigger
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>>64943336
Its funny because they aren't persian anymore thanks to the first jihad
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>>64943336
Egypt has more important things to worry about.

Like the fact that they're one black swan event away from Arab Spring 2.0: (No electricity) Boogaloo
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>>64943173
>Laws haven't even slowed donnie down
That's because the laws have been on his side. Not his fault the lower courts are shitting all over the law.
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>>64943194
certain cheerleaders will have a melty when one of the first "do something" moments China has is not to invade Taiwan but join in the demand that Iran must permit shipping in the gulf
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>>64941749
Why is cellphone in this video? the GF2 girls really got everywhere.
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>>64943363
Yes, but don't tell them that because they'll call you a jew for it
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>>64943360
>A blockage, no matter the reason, is an act of war
Who cares?

>Its just a nonsense pretext for a sea blockage.
Of course it is.

>Ofc this was done in cooperation with the american ambassador and NATO HQ
Seems smart of them to be working hand-in-glove with the rest of the west.

Remember that you're talking about the price of oil and how it helps Russia, that's the chain of posts here.

You have to remember that a significant number of tankers are just up and getting seized, all day every day.
The more countries do it, the more other countries want to get in on the free oil as well as be seen to be loyal western partners and it's really just all upside to them, once someone else can be seen to have "started it" and be the main focus of Russian hate. That's already happened of course, and it was just another Final Russian Red Line that never really existed.

>Do you think this is going to happen with America engaged with Iran? The swedes do.
Maybe the swedish government know something that nobody has told you?
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>>64943363
they are zoroastrians pretending to be muslim and this is reflected in their interpretation of islam
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>>64942897
How are they going to do that without their council of electors?
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>>64943360
>Do you think this is going to happen with America engaged with Iran? The swedes do.
No, the Swedes are part of NATO now and know that they can act with impunity toward a Russia which rendered itself impotent
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>>64943422
It turns out everyone is replaceable
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>>64942913
>>64943127
They're still price capped so it doesn't really affect them.

>>64943136
They should be increasing enforcement and using the seized oil to ease the domestic price shock. Anyway it doesn't really matter unless they have a plan to lift Ukraine's "sanctions."
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>>64943360
The US isn't blockading Russia and isn't going to. We're simply enforcing international maritime law and seizing illegal unregistered ships. Russia is entirely within their rights to legally register their ships under their own flag and sell their oil at the sanctioned price.
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>>64941767
Because egypt is not on irans side. Egypt is opposed to muslim brotherhood political theory.

Irans entire political theory is that they would be living in an islamic paradise right now if not for the meddling of the west keeping them down.
They fit hand in hand with modern communists in this regard. They only have a victim narrative and cannot do anything at all. This is due to muslim brotherhood political philosophy. They do not have the concept of solving problems because the entire chain of causal thinking they employ when figuring out why anything happens always inevitably leads to the US and/or israel somehow causing it. Their countries fall to ruins as they prepare for war with the great enemy, because that is the only possible course of action they can see since blaming others for their problem is their only possible conclusion. In irans case owing back to cultural influences of zoroastrianism it is even easier for them to become fanatical about this black and white great war against the evil one mentality.

This inevitably leads to them just whining and dying. There is an alternative theory to the muslim brotherhood however and some middle eastern countries subscribe to it. It is more like how turkey went. Those countries are doing better because they are actually incorporating some western thought into themselves. Nobody wants to associate with the victim narrative blame others guys because they are demonstrably incapable of functioning. They simply self defeat.

Both of these theories, that the arab world got weak before it was not being western enough, and that it got weak because it was being too western, are results of the collapse of the ottomans.
What we see with the immediate collapse of iran is the final proof that that way of islamic political philosophy is doomed, and so other arab states are going to be even more pushed towards western secularist ideas. You can draw the main line of divide between the middle east in these terms.
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>>64943367
>Arab Spring 2.0: (No electricity) Boogaloo
kek
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>>64943463
>We're simply enforcing international maritime law and seizing illegal unregistered ships
How the fuck can you type that with straight..fingers? Fingers.
I'm impressed.

I mean, I agree with fucking with Russia on principle but I admire your poker-fingers.
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>>64943531
What's the problem? Those are Russian ships and should be legally registered under a Russian flag, in which case they would be allowed to peacefully conduct trade in accordance with international law.

Russia doesn't like that, so they try to cheat the law by sailing their tankers under false flags. This is illegal and opens them up to seizure by agencies willing to enforce international law like the USN and USCG.
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>>64941741
Israel needs their aircraft elsewhere, in Lebanon for example. They have been using their ~200 combat planes at an intensity that is unsustainable in the long term. Thus the IAF operation in Iran is going to slow down soon. Planes need maintenance and personnel need rest. Munitions need to be restocked and they have already requested them (and the US has already approved the sales). For these reasons, the new US carrier is going to partially relieve them.

In fact, Israeli operational downshift will not be temporary. They are happy to pass Iran over to the Americans pretty much completely, and let the Americans carry the political risk of future aircraft losses and Iranian civilian casualties. Israelis are going to cash-in on their victory. Bibi can say to the domestic audience that under his leadership Israel defeated Iran without any major Israeli losses. They will shift into "supporting role", meaning intel (because it's "sensitive information" they don't have to explain to the press what they bring to the table if anything) and limited participation in air strikes (e.g. targets that the Americans are hesitant to strike, like Iranian diplomats or scientists).

Trump wants the operation to be as big and successful as Operation Desert Storm. Due to the Iranian threat the US Navy is wary of entering into the Persian Gulf itself. This means that they have to operate from the Red Sea, the Mediterranean or off the coast of Oman. The farther away they are, the more carriers they would need to achieve a level of air presence that even resembles the 1991 Gulf War air campaign. Trump is likely ready to send a fourth carrier group, even if military experts say that this is ill-advised. This would allow for total withdrawal of Israeli Air Force while maintaining similar operational intensity as before.

t. 4-star general
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>>64941767
Also, you know, the whole Shia/Sunni thing...
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>>64941997
is that an R-7 lmao?
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How many left guarding Taiwan?
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>>64943642
You've got that backwards, this is a continuation on bibis attempts to avoid jail time just like gaza was. He and trump need this war which is why this is all happening now. He HAS to keep Israel involved until he has an actionable exit strategy.
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>>64941780
Man it hurts to see how many people haven't played the campaign on the greatest game in the franchise. Never mind the story, it was also overall a perfect capture of the culture of the GWOT era.
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>>64943704
why doesn't someone, like the israeli people, just give him a golden parachute so they can stop the wars? seems cheaper and easier for everyone really and we all know jews love a good deal
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>>64943675
the exact same number as before
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>>64943587
>should be legally registered under a Russian flag, in which case they would be allowed to peacefully conduct trade
Cold. bloodless, legal fingers typed these words.
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>>64943716
Think about the practical aspects of that. What does bibi do? Admit guilt and openly threaten his own country unless he gets his way? Do it in private and give the opposition time to sound alarm bells or take steps to get in his way? Not a great strategy. Starting a war to give people something else to think about, stalling out the clock so it's old news, and doing some backroom dealing is a more practical strategy in his position. Even better if things actually pan out even halfway decent. These people are playing a whole different game with a whole different set of rules than normal people.
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>>64943744
The opposition has had years to give him an out, privately or publicly
It would be pretty easy. We did it for the last dictator and some retards complained crying about absolute moralism not thinking of practical matters. But they can and should be ignored in cases with so many upsides like this
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>>64942913
>propagates another shitskin rapefugee crisis to fuck over europe

Your fault for not pressing the Easily Fix Everything Button.

Press. It.
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>>64943642
>implying Israel won't just lean on America to throw the entire Air Force at it or AIPAC's going to Primary all of Congress or something
There's no such thing as wear-and-tear if you can delegate the problem to a contractor.
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>>64942069
>>tl;dr in the '90s, the producers of Russian Sesame Street got FUCKING MURDERED and THE ARMY STOLE ALL THE PRODUCTION EQUIPMENT
Sounds about right. If you try to play with your own ball without the correct people being bribed, stuff happens to you.
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>>64943851
well, he says there it's won
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>>64943367
Don't forget longterm water concerns due to Ethiopia's GERD
And also not one but TWO Sudans constantly imploding just south of them (and also along their only water supply).
The only reason they don't also have Libya to worry about is because giant 500 mile stretches of desert are still a pretty big barrier in the modern day.
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>>64943851
Pajeet you can to do better than this.
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ok ok you fucking contrarian nerds like this shit
but my diesel went up way too much in a couple of days
you are going to fucking ruin me man, I run 3 trucks. When am I going to start winning? I dont care abour brown people (israel and iran are both browns)
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>>64943851
Burn all bridges except to the greatest ally they want the US totally beholden to them and them alone
Seeing the US ship even a single missile system to some other conutry for free!! got all the kikes kvetching and staging crises to bring them back
thankfully Zion Don has this under control God bless
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>>64941745
Ford might be getting relieved. Their deployment has already been extended twice and it has that issue with F35 sustainment so some of those 35s may be coming close to being hard limited until they can work on them. I dont think any country in that area can work on them so you can't just do like a crossdeck
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>>64943728
Why are you so upset that Russia isn't allowed to flagrantly violate international law?
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>>64943876
>Ford might be getting relieved.
Ford transitted the Suez. THat makes no sense if it was coming home.
>I dont think any country in that area
Israel. Also Qatar and Jordan have decent facilities as well. If that is still not good enough, Italy isn't really that far.
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>>64941780
>Because what happens over there, matters over here
That line was actually from a West Wing speech about intervening in an African genocide.
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>>64941739
Bingo.

I wouldn't be surprised if nukes are seriously on the table.
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>>64942554
>air bases on soil are superior to floating ones.
Lmao no. A major reason another carrier is going in is the suppression of the fixed airfields by random drones and missiles. They aren't doing much damage, but it slows sortie rate quite a bit. Clearly that was not anticipated how bad the USAF would perform or we probably would not have kicked this off with only 2 CVNs and like 18 tin cans
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>>64941930
Stennis is down for refueling, and I believe only George Washington is available for immediate response. I also doubt this administration would actually intervene, especially if it goes off without a hitch - the Biden administration was much more hostile and they were resigned to sit on their hands if Kiev fell.
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>>64943946
>how bad the USAF would perform
Do you have a single thing to back that up?
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>>64943295
>apologize and keeps sending 300 drones and missiles to the gulf immediately after

what is the plan here?
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>>64942379
Only because the emperor agreed, they were pretty divided up to the very end on the issue. Now, how agreeable a son of a dead ayatollah would be is definitely a Question.
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>>64943975
>>apologize and keeps sending 300 drones and missiles to the gulf immediately after
>what is the plan here?
I suppose it's leveraging religious faith as a diplomatic tool.

>god will answer your prayers
>pray for your son not to die
>son dies
>you didn't pray hard enough
These kinds of arseholes can always come up with an excuse for why they didn't do what they promised after you did what they demanded.

It's technically a kind of Rain Making.
Not the folk religion ritual, I mean the scam.
A senator or whoever says that they can get you approval on your rezoning application which will make you rich. You hand over the money, they tell you they're pulling strings.
You get the approval, you got value for money, you're happy, the senator got paid.
You don't get the approval, maybe the senator refunds the money if you're dangerous enough (minus some up-front costs). You're angry but it's all illegal so what are you going to do? Assassinate a senator?
In reality, the senator does nothing of course, they just take the money and wait to see what happens and either take credit for it or make excuses.

If the drones keep coming, they'll say it was because you didn't kick the US out or because you said the wrong thing at the UN or whatever.
If they stop (maybe your missile officers found a way to contact HQ) then you graciously accept the apology and tell them not to do it again.
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>>64943981
Only because the Emperor agreed and the coup to kidnap him and continue the war from the Japanese Alps failed*
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>>64943587
>Russia doesn't like that, so they try to cheat the law by sailing their tankers under false flags. This is illegal and opens them up to seizure by agencies willing to enforce international law like the USN and USCG.

If thats your definition of "illegal ships" then the bulk of the euro and american owned ships in existence are illegal.
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>>64943177
Well torpedoeing that frigate, while yes, was a fun flex, but was pretty retarded. Now like most of everything West of Malacca has had all war insurance canceled. I don't know why we aren't using the SEALs to grab all the Iranian flagged tankers. They don't have that many of them and it would take their economy from Hella fucked to like biblically intergalactically fucked.
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>>64944036
>If thats your definition of "illegal ships" then the bulk of the euro and american owned ships in existence are illegal.
America is a bit more complicated because they have rules about ships not being flagged with them, it's protectionism but it also accidentally makes them a bit less shady.

Flags of Convenience are legal yes but they're also what all the bad actors do so they're inherently dodgy and many states are pretty suspicious of such flags.

Anyway, the real reason is that:
>the bulk of the euro and american owned ships in existence are illegal
Those states haven't invaded any democratic countries recently and we know that that's the real crime.
They wanted multi-polar, this is what it looks like. Our pole is opposing theirs, they burned down and blew up and assassinated all over the west, this is basically payback.
Plus they didn't get the hint on Ukraine so this is to encourage them to fuck off from that too.
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>>64944028
>Its standard procedure for ships to be registered under 3rd party flags. Nothing illegal with that.
there are certain requirements tough, like actually registering with your flag of convince.
a good chunk of the shadow fleet didn't even bother with that.
thus those ships are sailing under a false flag and that is a breach of maritime law.
the reason why they don't do that is that the flag you are registered under can give other countries the right to board and inspect it.
the US and Europeans have started asking and the flags of convenience are okay those boarding actions.

the rest of your post is just unadulterated copeium fantasy
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>>64944041
>torpedoeing that frigate, while yes, was a fun flex
We're talking about oil prices and Russia's fortunes. I don't think an Iranian frigate has anything to do with it and I don't think that frigate moved the needle on how any business forecasts the effects of destroying the Iranian regime.
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>11 months at sea
Wouldn't shock me if some lower enlisted or some poor bastard who got stop lossed flushed a bunch of rags or something to just end the deployment lmao.
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>>64944036
>sailing their tankers under false flags
flying a flag of convenience isn't flying a false flag
flying a false flag is flying a flag of a country your ship isn't registered in
the russians not being able or not wanting to get their shadowfleet properly registered is their problem.
part of that is them not being able to take out insurance from Western insurance brokers whom dominate the maritime insurance market. even most convenient of the flags of convenience still require insurance
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>>64943957
Have you failed to notice ALL the footage coming out of the war department is either CSG aircraft or Global strike? Pretty much the only footage we have seen of ACC was three of their mudhens getting violently sodomized by a random inbred Kuwaiti flying an ancient F/A-18. I mean you can cope as much as you want but that's the reality of the situation
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>>64944052
Do you have any idea how maritime insurance rates are calculated and payed? A standard day rate for tankers increased 600% instantly when the SSN whacked that frigate. I'll let you figure out what increasing the say rate 600% does to all products and prices downstream
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>>64944083
What incredibly flawed reasoning. But its good to know you have literally nothing and I can disregard anything you have to say; appreciate you not wasting my time.
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>>64941859
looks like a skirt
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>>64941735
Anon, can you tell us where was the sinking of the last two striker groups
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>>64944113
No the skirt is from Jinwudun.
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>>64944028
Amd then Japan activates its Gundams and wipes China off the map, since we're apparently not beholden to reality here.
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>>64944412

America has voluntarily placed itself in a strategic position where it _has_ to keep on fighting. This is a new thing, America is used to overseas wars where it can skedaddle if things go sideways. There is no retreat possible here without the collapse of the oil dollar.
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>>64942706
These were pretty common early GWOT. Are they not a thing anymore?
>'03 westpac was only 9 months but we left on one day's notice and were told it would only be for two weeks
>mfw realize two more weeks meme is older than most of the people on this board
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>>64942774
Waiting for the strategic oil reserves to be low, because oil price has to stay low god forbid the "strategic" in SPR, then they'll go.
Simple as.
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>>64944028
>Its standard procedure for ships to be registered under 3rd party flags. Nothing illegal with that. What you are describing is a blockade under another name.
No, you stupid zigger. You're literally not registering your ships at all, you're just sticking random flags on them and hoping no one notices. The US has not seized a single legally registered tanker. This includes the one that the crew attempted to illegally change the flag from one they were not legally registered under while underway. There's a reason the zigger submarine escorting that ship just let it happen; it was a 100% legal seizure under international maritime law.
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>>64943851
Spain and the UK should just go pool's closed on Gibraltar just for shit and giggles.
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>>64944028
>all the gulf arabs ends up being bombed to pieces

China and Iran have been careful not to antagonize Saudi Arabia for different reasons. I think SA is just waiting for them to send it. There will be no mistake if it's Iranian or chinese origin. And then what? A merciless ass kicking by SA with total air superiority?

The chances of WW3 coming up on the I-ching is zero, sorry mate
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The sanest takeaway is the idea this is stopping anytime soon is nonsense.
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in the real world dear Ivan/Chang/Alladin/Faggot Venezuela is realigned and expanding oil output, Iran is being dismantled (Death to Americ-ack!), Ukraine is fucking winning, and Cuba is next.

you're in fucking denial with your seething and shilling here. I don't care what your government is telling you. you are losing this war and if it is not crystal clear to you we are absolutely fucking ready.
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>>64944849
>Article 92
>Status of ships
>1. Ships shall sail under the flag of one State only and, save in exceptional cases expressly provided for in international treaties or in this Convention, shall be subject to its exclusive jurisdiction on the high seas.
>A ship may not change its flag during a voyage or while in a port of call, save in the case of a real transfer of ownership or change of registry.
It is illegal to change flags during a voyage. There is no fig leaf. The US performed a legal enforcement action against a vessel operating in violation of international law. The Russians knew this and hoped that they could bully the US into letting them ignore international law by sending a submarine to escort it.
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>>64941818
>So is a ground invasion being planned?

Going by the fact that the Kurds are buying up every Toyota pickup truck in the region yeah, just not by the US
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>>64944889
Either russian sub commanders are intelligent enough to not be suicidal, or they're even bigger cucks than the guys in AD.
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>>64944941
I'm sure they had direct orders not to initiate a war against the only global hyperpower to exist since the conclusion of the Finno-Korean Hyperwar.
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>>64941835
I think we can gauge that the regime won't collapse in two days at the current rate.
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>>64941864
Anons are clowning on you but I think this is a worthwhile risk. Not gonna call it a great idea, because it could work out like such a move did for the Japs, but fortune favors the bold.

To the skeptics in this thread, consider a few facts. First, there has been no rallying around the flag for the war against Iran, despite the fact that the Iranians have continually menaced US interests, and actively worked to kill Americans or resident aliens within the living memory of the zoomers and millenials who definitely don't care about what happened in Korea seventy years ago. Instead, regular people are peddling /pol/-tier schizo theories about Israel and seething about forever wars. Second, the US is distracted with an increasingly involved effort in Iran, it's not going to be able to respond as quickly or as forcefully as it would like to achieve proper deterrence over Taiwan. All those missile interceptors parked in the Middle East are also needed for a Pacific war. Third, the war with Taiwan is supposed to be fast, so their lack of fuel currently is less of a factor. Remember that the entire Chinese strategy on seizing Taiwan depends on it being a fait accompli. Outside of the US debt bomb actually going off, I don't think you can really expect better circumstances for making this move. Of course, Xi is the patient dragon, 1000 years of preparation, everything must be just so or it won't be worth doing. But a bolder Chinese leader would see an opportunity here, and take it.
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>>64945075
>First, there has been no rallying around the flag for the war against Iran
Yes of course, its a war of aggression.
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>>64945075
To the anon who made this post, consider a few facts. It takes months to put in place the forces to do it so even starting a few days ago would still put it late this year. Xi just purged the top of military command and while that may be good in the longterm (that remains to be seen) it most certainly makes moving in the near term a practical impossibility. Your "fait accompli" is no more likely than the cabbage approach, unless you have some inside knowledge you would like to share with us? Xi is waiting for the next election.
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>>64945119
Case in point, we watched America assemble its forces for Iran (both times) and Venezuela over the course of literal months. Invasion of Taiwan would be massively telegraphed and everyone would have time to prepare.
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>>64945083
>killing people who continuously murder your countrymen is a war of aggression
Brown. Pure, undiluted brown.
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>>64945135
I never said that the aggression wasn't warranted, you fucking faggot. Its a war of aggression in the sense that we just randomly attacked without them doing something to instigate it.
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>>64941731
>Proceeds to un-sanction Russian Oil to alleviate rising oil prices
>Russia uses that money to assist Iran and kill more Americans
I don't get it
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>>64945075
>Not gonna call it a great idea, because it could work out like such a move did for the Japs,
I think the comparison is worth making, because the Japs started the war because they saw their window of opportunity vanishing. Same with Germany in WW1. Even with the odds against it, China may well decide that this is the best opportunity for a war, since the US won't be this overextended in a few years time and will have not only replaced any lost interceptors and missiles, but will have expanded its capacity to produce them.
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>>64945119
All good points, hence why I didn't go so far as to call it a great idea. If they have forces already concentrated for such a move (I haven't heard anything to that effect, so I doubt it), now's the time to strike. But if they can't build up quickly and quietly, the moment will probably pass before they can get it done. Unless this Iran thing turns out to be the mess the doomposters claim it will be.
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>>64945075
No, it's a terrible idea. The US would just blockade the country and their only recourse would be to starve or nooook. The Chinese navy is protected by the same S-300 SAMs that have been getting clowned on for decades; if they leave port they will be sunk and they will probably be sunk in port anyway.
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>>64944483
Heh, we were on the same boat. IM-3.

>>64945138
When a man who's been shitting on your lawn for 30 years and keeps punching your dog walks into your bank waving a gun, and yells "I have a box of bullets, we need to negotiate giving me a withdrawal" are they a helpless victim when they get shot?
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>>64944889
I was hoping the zigger would take the bait and point out that this statute allows for changing flags at sea in the case of a change in registry. If there's anyone else that's interested in maritime law as it applies to tanker seizures, you can actually go to the Russian Maritime Register of Shipping website and look up the Marinera and see that it wasn't registered under a Russian flag.
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>>64941731
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cvgjl2ppxy1o

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c7vj9redqz2o

tehrans getting the shit kicked into it

there won't be anything left
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>>64941797
Six during the Gulf War (one of which was the USS Midway which had missed out on WW2 by 8 days) and five during the 2003 Iraq Invasion
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If this keeps up Iran won't be exporting oil anywhere for a decade, there won't be any navy, airforce, airports,commercial planes or ships, telecommunications, power or water

surrender
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>>64945381
Saddam was far better armed than the mullahs.

Pretty certain the Iranian military is going to take over and surrender.
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>>64945363
>the zigger

not many of them left now, end of their heavy weapons this year, T80s gone, Heavy mortars gone, mlrs gone

08.03.2026
Tanks — 11742 (+5)
Armored fighting vehicle — 24157 (+6)
Artillery systems — 38059 (+55)
MLRS — 1673 (+3)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1322
Planes — 435
Helicopters — 349
UAV — 164416 (+2558)
Cruise missiles — 4403 (+19)
Ships (boats) — 30
Submarines — 2
Cars and cisterns — 82101 (+289)
Special equipment — 4083 (+3)
Military personnel — aprx. 1273290 people (+930)
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>>64945389
>+6 AFVs
>the same number as the total number of Americans to date killed in the Iran war
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>>64943360
>blockage
So close to being right, yet so far away.
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>>64945384
>Pretty certain the Iranian military is going to take over and surrender.
IRGC is better funded and they've already forced the president to walk back his apology and promise that they would stop targeting neighboring Gulf states.
Then they started sending drones and missiles targeting civilian infrastructure like airports and desalination plants in those Gulf states.
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>>64943422
The 12th Imam will come out of occultation
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Why doesn't the us navy just escort the tankers through the strait? Iran wouldn't dare attack a a tanker that has an american aircraft carrier sailing next to it.
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>>64945406
The Russians have lost more people since last weekend than Iran. They don;t matter though, the heavy weapons Russia looses now are basiclally irreplacable at this point. It's as over for them as it is for the mullahs it's just neither has the brains to know when to quit. Let the disarmament an deindustrialisation continue.
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>>64945452
They donlt have to. They can just obliterate anything with a FLIR signature on the 50 KM of Iran beside the strait with the firepower at hand. At that point Trump could go and sunbathe there and he'd be perfectly safe too. This is not halfway through, it's already nearly over. I almost feel sorry for the Iranian military if the bombing campaign is extended to them. No where to run, nowhere to hide and visible from space.
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>>64945438
>The 12th Imam will come out of occultation
he's been sppotted in a van belonging to a toilet cleaning company in Paris, where he has been cleaning toilets since 1200AD and when asked if he would come out of the van and out of occultation he just waved a toilet brush angrily and started cursing about arabs in French. He appears to have gone native.
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>>64945452
Their only real option for closing hormuz was mining it and like everything else the mullahs fucked it up and failed.
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>>64944941
From everything we've seen about the Russian navy there's a non-zero chance the sub captain tried to do something stupid only to discover his boat didn't have any functioning weapons
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>>64945470
Not ureasonable. Fire, Click. Blayt! Click. Sound of small piece of metal snapping and a spring bouncing up and down sadly.
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>>64945075
>fortune favors the bold
But victory loves the prepared.

Xi replaced 90% of military leadership in the last few months.
Do you think the PLA are in any way prepared for such an invasion?
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>>64945452
>Iran wouldn't dare attack a a tanker that has an american aircraft carrier sailing next to it.
I believe they called out the USN and dared them to do that.

They probably couldn't do more than lob some AShMs at them but that would be taking quite a risk with civilian lives. Hard to get a shipping company to accept that.
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>>64945460
>At that point Trump could go and sunbathe there and he'd be perfectly safe too
Thank you for that mental image.
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>>64945452
We've tried it before (Operation Earnest Will) and in the end we found that it was more emotionally rewarding to just blow up the Iranian military instead (Operation Praying Mantis)
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>>64945481
The PLA are utterly outclassed and a propaganda meme. Century of BRICS humiliation

As of early 2026, China has three aircraft carriers, one a soviet built hull which is the sister ship to steamboat willy. America has 11 nuclear powered carriers and if you think chinas jets can go toe to toe with western missiles, jets and AA. I have a bridge in broklyn to sell ya. Not a inngle member of the PLAF has combat experience.

It would be a turkey shoot easpecially since the conditions for a conflict is the PLA trying to extend itself over 120KM of watrer facing a forified island loaded with anti ship missiles and AA
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>>64945497
big sweaty man tits and a diet coke. He's ging for a full body tan too and vance is right beside him holding the empty coke can.
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>>64945504
actualy donald, I apologise for thst, you're finally doing something righteous
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>>64945498
when they air assulted the iranian oil rigs in Operation Nimble Archer the choppers played AC/DCs back in black on loudspeaker like apocalypse now, source sniper who wuz there.

God Bless President Ronald Reagan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgnJDJN4VA
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>>64945504
>vance is right beside him holding the empty coke can
Who's applying the sun cream?
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>>64945539
putin
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>>64945534
>Operation Nimble Archer
always reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohtqfy8NJfY
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>>64945500
>one a soviet built hull which is the sister ship to steamboat willy.
Don't forget that the second one is a Chinese built direct copy with very few modifications. They have two Kuznetsovs and a garbage ""super""carrier that's required to choose between abandoning the third launch position or abandoning the second elevator because they decided halfway through that a steam catapult wasn't implessive enough.
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>>64945552
>the royal family
No one cares exceot I think the world is waiting for fergies carreer in mature gangbang porn on onlyfans. Andy will be in the corner, fapping as usual as is tradition, with the royal sock, as used by George the 1st and every male member of the british wing of the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family (rebranded windsor)
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>>64945576
It ai't happening, Russia has been neutered. China would't have a hope
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>>64945577
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>>64945580
>Russia has been neutered.
Neutering is the surgical removal of a pet's reproductive organs—ovaries and uterus in females (spaying) or testicles in males (castration)—to prevent reproduction and offer health benefits. It helps prevent cancers, infections, and behavioral issues like spraying, while also controlling pet population
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>>64945598
Thank you dictionary-bot.
One of the behaviour issues it fixes is aggression, that's why Russia is being neutered.
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>>64941731
>USS George Bush
This was already deployed to the Med a few weeks ago
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>>64944849
> Are you implying that you can only reregister your ship in port now?
Yes.
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>>64945481
It's not, but it's a staple for commie regime to chop the head of the army and still do stupid shit with it right after
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>>64944412
>Amd then Japan activates its Gundams
This part's actually true by the way, they've just cleverly disguised them as MSDF ships in a Transformers-like configuration because Takara-Tomy didn't like Bandai getting all the MoD contracts.
Both are secretly Japan's largest defense contractors
>t.revealed to me by a drunk JMSDF sailor who said he'd seen a 12 year old climbing into one of their gas turbines
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>>64945793
>Are you implying that you can only reregister your ship in port now?
Not just any port actually. Usually your home port, or a port that you're registering as your new home port.
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>>64945829
>It's not, but it's a staple for commie regime to chop the head of the army and still do stupid shit with it right after
I can't fault your logic there.
WWIII depends on whether Xi is less retarded than Stalin.
IMO he's wiser than Stalin but time will tell.
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>>64941735
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This why the ram prices are through the roof btw
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>>64941775
It's being nerfed as we speak, 41% white country when counting ar*bs and north afric*ns as white lmao.
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>>64945580
What isn't happening? I'm just describing the current state of affairs.
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>>64941745
>>ziggers mad
Why would the be mad? The war has blown up the price of oil to exactly match what the Russians were wanting. The Russians were aiding the Iranians with targeting info, and what does our totally loyal and not vatnigger president do? Lift sanctions on Russian oil without price limits so the subhuman faggots can sell their oil at $90/barrel. Gee, it sure is weird how all of this helps the Russians for literally no gain for us.
>buh muh Russian allies
Russia has no allies, just hosts that it leeches from.
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>>64946333
>taking out a 2nd major Russian ally was actually a secret 3d chess plot to help Russia
Meds.
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>>64946500
In what way is any of that untrue? It does directly help Russia more than harm them.
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>>64942913
But /pol/ said Iranians are huwhite...
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>>64946569
peace deal is imminent.
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another war ended
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>>64946276
>What isn't happening? I'm just describing the current state of affairs.
china going to war with the US Xi may be a ruthless tyrant but he's not a nut like putin with the remake the USSR deathwish kgb cult crap
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>>64947306
/pol/ is always wrong sibce 2015 when it got hijacked first by the kremlin then by browns. It's collective hiveminds IQ is now clinically retarded while /k/s has gone up
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>>64947591
>Xi may be a ruthless tyrant but he's not a nut like putin with the remake the USSR deathwish kgb cult crap
About that anon...
Xi might not have the deathwish part but he absolutely does want to go back to some mythical time when China was master of its world.
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>>64947733
>It doesnt matter what the fig leaf used as justificiation is.
There is no fig leaf, though. The tanker was in violation of international law. If Russia doesn't want their tankers to be seized, they can legally register and insure them just like everyone else.
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>>64941864
>If I was the chinks, I would try to take Taiwan now

Thats simpleton thinking. If I was running chinkland, I would exhaust America somewhere else, then take Taiwan. The Iran war is a golden opportunity to do precisely that because America cannot run from that war unlike other wars. If it does, the oil dollar is dead, and America is bankrupt. If America does not run, it will be bogged down in a quagmire that will kill so many americans and consume so much hardware and muntions that America will go bankrupt. Then China takes Tawian, at minimum or even no cost in life, because USN has withdrawn from East Asia due to funding related problems. That would be a masterstroke of strategy. Not the simple smash the window and grab the booze ghetto tier strategy that you propose.
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>>64945142
>>Proceeds to un-sanction Russian Oil to alleviate rising oil prices
>>Russia uses that money to assist Iran and kill more Americans
>I don't get it


The plan here is to block russian shipping by multiple means to prevent that from happening. So oil prices rise, but Russia cant exploit it.
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>>64947757
>If it does, the oil dollar is dead, and America is bankrupt.
How do you figure?
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>>64942390
Unfortunately Americans have a strong allergy to what it actually takes to win nowadays so no, I’m afraid not.
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>>64942913
So hang your leaders and conquer another empire pussy
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>>64943295
That part of the world its usually just general incompetence instead of focused zealotry, as crazy as that sounds
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>>64943360
> Sweden has next to no armed forces and no real army, navy or air force
The military forces of Sweden are more powerful than the military forces of Russia in every category except strategic nuclear missile forces. If Russia tries to punish Sweden, either St Pidorsburg and Kalininblat will rapidly find themselves entirely depleted of all military forces except the bare minimum number of soldiers required to turn the keys on the nuclear rockets, or they will have to pull forces from Donbabwe and Luganda, which will cause another 100s of square kilometers of good will gesturing in Eastern Ukraine.
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>>64945138
Ask any ‘79 revolutionary if the war on the great Satan is over. You’ve got the same blinders on as an average Disney adult
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>Sesame Street? You can not be of plantings sesame seeds in street, childrens just eats all seeds when hungry! Then you hwill be of having zero plants debil.



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