Speedboat status?
>>64943973extremely heckin valid chuddieee
>>64944012
>>64944012are you telling me the real iranian navy has yet to arrive?
>>64944012Back in 2022 this guy made a whole video on why HIMARS wouldn't make a difference in Ukraine.
swarms of cheap low cost anything have the problem of how do you get that mass to the target
>>64943973Where are the thousands of small boats?
They're saving their real navy for when they really need it.>b-but muh Ayatollah!His intentional martyrdom (unconfirmed, btw) has galvanized Iran.The real battle is coming. I'd give it about two more weeks before the war results in the US regime being toppled.
>>64944012>It remains to be seen how effective Iran's strategy is -Talking German U-boat losses here.
>>64944169No, the first one was confirmed. There wasn't anyone left alive to confirm the death of the second one.
>>64943973Please try it, ahmed. I'll get the popcorn to watch the rest of your "fleet" get sent to the bottom of the drink in pieces.
>>64944012Topkek
>>64944169I believe this
>>64944012Fuck youI had forgotten about this stupid bald faggot shill
>>64944169>The real battle is comingYou got that much right at least.
>>64943973Hiding from the two Independence LCSs cruising around the Arabian Sea screening the carrier.
>>64944012>They didn't need those ships anyway>The real Iranian navy is yet to be unleashedGood fucking god, what I wouldn't do to have these people deported to the very places they professionally gobble dicks for
>>64944080Why are you giving him cred?
>>64944012Van Riper go home. You can’t fit AShM of any significant size on a speed boat.
>>64944415>You can’t fit AShM of any significant size on a speed boat.Indogs were looking at putting NSMs on 30t speedboats. You'll probably argue that that is still too big of a boat or too small of a warhead, but I think its pretty interesting and more or less meets your criteria.https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/02/indonesian-navy-set-to-procure-missile-boats-armed-with-nsm
>>64944012I was expecting this from copelord lmfao
>>64944516Honestly I reckon you can get most large ASMs onto ribbed speedboats, but they'd take up the entire center, be low down in the boat to stop flipping and the crew would maybe have to bail to not die.
>>64944012Did Hollywood genuinely fuck up people's brain? What the fuck do you mean secret navy? Why would any country just hide their force projection?
>>64944012Bring back physical tar & feathering for morons like this.
>>64943973DAE remember years ago when /pol/ shitskins kept saying that iranian speedboats were gonna sink all the US aircraft carriers?
>>64944169>two more weeks
Where could it be?
Has copelord made a statment yet?
>>64944377retard
>>64944012Why did they build the warships then if they werent for fighting their biggest enemies
>USS Abraham LincolnI wonder if they still have the banner on board from 2003?
>>64944529>copelordspeaking of, let's see how old baldy is doing>Iran is firing 5 ballistic missiles a day because it is winning sustainably>US is firing 200 strikes a day because it is actually losingyeah
>>64945757as a decoy
>>64945914wew
>>64945914What in the fuck is that data anyway. It's supposed to be the daily strike count but the data is clearly way more granular.
>>64945928I have no idea what the source is, and it being Copelord, the data is suspect anywayI'm just having a laugh at the "logic" and double standards he blithely posts
>>64945914I like how this ignores the fact the US and Israel were hitting things like air defenses, which needed to be destroyed quickly. The attrition of said launchers possibly contributing to their reduced strike volume seems to have went over his head entirely. None of the Iranian strikes have significantly degraded US capabilities and the US now has air supremacy over Iran. The politics of the invasion are one thing, and there are very valid concerns about the actual war aims and long term plan for the war. But just because you have issue with America, doesn't mean you have to simply for the fucking Iranians/Russians/Hamas especially after they have been very soundly defeated.
>>64945928That's a good point.
>>64945959>The politics of the invasion are one thingthe IAEA confirmed that Iran had significant stockpiles of 60%-purity uranium. that's good enough for crude, inefficient nuclear bombs, and it would take less than a month to further refine it to 90% purity for modern nuclear weapons.>seems to have went over his head entirelyoh he insists that it's the US and IDF forces which are blinded. but there's no point in posting all that nonsense. this is just the most blatant example of Copelord double standards out of the whole crop.
>>64945928The data is derived from floating sources and concepts, which are then identified by some third party cosmic force as being ironically accurate in unexpected ways, or being diametrically the opposite of present events, before they're dragged through the meat of his brain until they stick.Armchair Warlord has to be some of the best proof that God exists, because no one can be THIS wrong THIS ironically, and THIS consistently by random chance alone.
>>64943973Why did they park the carrier so close to Iran?
>>64945985Its not "parked"Its over 200 nautical miles from IranBecause they have nothing to fear
>>64944169Muh heccin Star Wars/DUNC dessert people will topple le American Empire and establish the Democratic BaathistIranian Republic and the Twelvth Imam shall return
>>64944148Being made into thousands of pieces of even smaller boats
>>64944593I remember. They transitioned to saying their navy doesn't matter because this is a missile war.
>>64945985>>64946030Also, being closer means a more effective range for their aircraft.
I was promised a proper conflict. Like in a westerrn, or in the Commando Comics. Now the precious bodily fluids are spilled by USAF carpet bombing everything from afar. THIS IS BORING!!
>>64944579Too merciful. Make them poo in the loo!>>64946125I agree this lot is fucking nonsense!
>>64946050>tfw we accidentally trained an enemy military
>>64945938The logic makes sense, you want to maximize damage initially and you're not going to maintain that tempo over the long-term for various reasons, the problem is the conclusion he extrapolates from it. US strikes drop because they need to strike a balance between long-term sustainability, strategic and tactical aims, and ability to respond to new developments, Iranian strikes drop because they need to disperse, defend, and hide launchers from attack. It's just that when the US rate drops to 1/5th the initial rate while the Iranian rate drops to 1/60th the initial rate it's pretty easy to see things are going very, very bad for Iran.
>>64944012we don't NEED major surface combatants
>>64946404If Iran's idea was to attack the US in the Strait with these small boats, and the small boats are such an insurmountable obstacle, then why bother with the pretend blue water Navy? Just show off the small boat brigade so the US says oh well, I guess attacking Iran just isn't possible because they have lots of speed boats and missiles, guess we have to negotiate now.
>>64946125The US cannot reopen the strait of hormuz while sitting off the coast of Oman. In fact the US cannot open the strait of hormuz at all. If you want to see what that might look like, read up on the criminally underreported battles in the red sea against the Houthi. In the end, the red sea was not reopened to traffic and the houthi continued to attack shipping even after the US bombing campaign. Access to the Suez canal was not restored until the Gaza ceasefire many weeks later after the US navy had withdrawn.
>>64946367Facts by themselves are meaningless, it is how they are interpreted which really makes sense of them, and interpretation depends on reasoning by informal logic. It is in this area where propagandists screw around, because they can use all kinds of rhetoric and faulty logic to twist the facts, and it takes a rare mind that is well-versed in informal logic to unravel it and expose their faulty logic.But in this case the double standard is so blatant, because it's a case in which no additional facts were introduced; he's just blatantly interpreting the same data in different ways.>when the US rate drops to 1/5th the initial rate while the Iranian rate drops to 1/60th the initial rate it's pretty easy to see things are going very, very bad for Iranprima facie, yes; and you make a very good point about looking at the % drop which Copelord no doubt tried to hide by ignoring
>>64946404>Iran never had naval desires outside of their tiny corner of the worldThan why did Iran build "Drone Carriers"?
>>64946404>ATGMs>against warshipsThat’s…not going to work out how you think it is big dog.
>>64946562Lol, lmao even
>>64946404>small fast boats armed with ATGMs and dronesnot even RWA is as retarded as Van Riper
>>64944077It all sounds so familiar, doesn't it?
>>64946598ATGM can fuck some naval shit up.https://youtu.be/3NpGPtvzrPE?t=777
>>64946125These are cheat codes. Sorry not sorry>>64946562That bug is about to be patched by the Ford
>>64946404I guess Iran just decided to spend billions building large surface ships in the last decade for fun then lol. But clearly Iran had larger ambitions than harassing US ships with speedboats (a task they still can’t even do) but they failed to take into account that US/Israel airpower would be able to strike both land and sea targets at an incredible tempo that matches and appears to exceed the daily target hit rates achieved during the 1st Gulf War, but with considerably fewer airframes and readily willing allies in the area. I don’t think Iran expected their missile attacks to be degraded to a manageable rate so quickly while at the same time their vessels were struck while still in port.Additionally during a full scale war with the US, Iran was probably expecting 3-4 carrier groups (and at least 1 MEU or other amphibious assault element) at minimum in the Gulf that would be, in their mind, inevitably forced closer to their coast to sustain sortie rates against their mobile missile launchers and hardened missile storage areas, which would let them engage them with surface vessels, drone carriers, and speed boats. But womp womp, this hasn’t materialized. It seems to be a trend that the US’ enemies reveal themselves to be both tactically and strategically incompetent on a profound level.
>>64946627An LCAC is not an actual naval warship.
>>64946744It's an boat, a naval vessel. That row boat I was in once is an vessel. Hence the "some". And if you hit the skipper on the bridge, it's a good kill in my opinion.
>>64946802>if you hit the skipper on the bridge, it's a good kill in my opinion.You’re opinion is wrong.
>>64946404Funny. The whole world was crying foul about the U.S. blowing up speed boats just this last month and now it’s somehow our navy’s greatest weakness.
>>64946815You're waifu is a shit, desu. Skipper and the whole bridge crew down is a kill for me. Sure, the boat might be full of angry marines, but kill is a kill. Thats the reason you killed Khomeini. You kill the leaders, so that you have only the yellow butter bar in command in command. Then you kill him too.
>>64945914>Feb 28>Mar Mar Mar Mar Mar Mar Mar Marlovely chart
>>64944012What is the Navy's doctrine on 1 U.S aircraft carrier vs 1000 dinghies? Is there anything more they can do than the obvious rip them to shreds with stationary machine guns?
>>64947212honestly seems like a good use for drone spam to get them before they're even close
>>64943973>status?Iran doing the anime trope of >THIS ISNT EVEN MY FINAL FORMBut with their military capabilities. Only issue is nothing shows up
>>64947212Thirdies forget that it's not "1 aircraft carrier" it's "1 aircraft carrier and two dozen support vessels" which are going to pop speedboats with a couple shots from the deck gun while the carrier is still a little tower on the horizon.
>>64947212In truth the US carriers are sitting outside the range of most speedboats from the Iranian coast, and if USN fighters show up to start smoking them they’ll all scatter and flee due to the human condition. Speedboat spam is not a threat to USN and never was. It was a multipolar world lie
>>64947167A "modern" army being reduced to a fucking prison battalion inching forward on squad sized elements surely makes a lot of difference. And the actual army being forced to use golf carts, motorbikes, donkeys and horses surely doesn't inspire much confidence either.Have you noticed how you changed the subject from a defensive fighting stance by Ukraine to going up against the entire Soviet WW3 stockpile of landmines being laid in Zaporizhzhia? Yeah. You changed the subject.Face it, Ivan. A humble delivery of 12 HIMARS and like 4-6 M270 MLRS facefucked your army so hard your alcoholic uncle who's been in and out of prison for the past 20 years has done the honorable thing and finally provided for his family. By showing up on the drone strike compilations.
>>64947167Certainly did enough that it pushed zigger supply depots further away from the front and made concentration of troops difficult to do because they're just such good targets for HIMARS
>>64947167>Russia themselves cannot even advance past Zaporizhzhia because they've mined it so much
Man the door gunners on the MH60s must masturbate furiously over the thought of an attempted speed boat spam, to say nothing of any AH1s that might be there
>>64944012>Iran is employing the Principal Skinner strategy
>>64947187> Skipper and the whole bridge crew down is a kill for meIt isn’t.Because there’s this thing called “chain of command.”Plus, they aren’t just going to be hanging out on the bridge in wartime. They’re going to be in the CIC. Which you aren’t hitting with an ATGM.Plus, you know, range.
>>64944012Ohhhhhh n0ooooo, America is finished!!!!!!!!
>>64947853>Kansainvälinen riistansuojeluneuvosto (CIC)>CIC is the global authority on biodiversity protection and hunting. >CIC (combustion ion chromatography)Eh? Range is just a means to send the payload to the target. The command spot has bridge etc full of commanding officers and signals guys.On the bottom of the command is ylimatruusi Snuffy. He'll command the ship after the Spike ER hit's it and the command crew is in pieces.
oh nevermind we're trying to argue with a thirdie who is either incapable of understanding complex concepts, or deliberately misunderstanding them in order to continue the argument
>>64947238The IRGC suffered from the rather childish delusion that we would need to park a carrier in the gulf in order to employ it's aircraft there
>>64947908If you don’t know what a CIC is and why modern warships have them, then you fundamentally do not understand the topic at hand.
>>64946679The most hilarious part of things, for me, is>muh small boat drone swarms!And the answer is>ok, i guess we'll just sit a little farther away out of small boat fuel range and let the planes do that thing they're known for>flying.Kek.
>>64946125I'm sorry friend, but we're just doing Libya 2.0. Which honestly breaks my heart as an Iran specialist, but I get it. No one wants to do Desert Storm again so instead we have to destroy Iran.
>>64947583KEKIt would be the highlight of their careers for sure
>>64949357>but we're just doing Libya 2.0And look how good that worked out!...wait, what's that? Libya is an utter shithole and basically a ticking timebomb that is going to cause more chaos in the region at some point? Ya don't say.
>>64949414Libya was Turkey, UAE and Russia fault.
I hope they AShM spam it if they get the chance
>>64949414>Libya is an utter shithole and basically a ticking timebomb that is going to cause more chaos in the region at some point?Yes, and?An Iran that haas been turned into Liya can never build an atomic bomb, it can never have a ballistic missle program, it can never fix the drought issue which is slowly killing the country anyways. Iran being turned into a charnel house wasn't just baked into the equation, it is the desired outcome.I'm not glorifying this or saying it's a good thing, i love the Iranian people and I really am sad that i will probably never go to Tehran again but the situation you described is basically the only path forward without a ground invasion making it the desired outcome.
>>64949451I think the gamble is that most Iranians are an intelligent population and if the right domino false, they'll return to a stable rational state. See: Iraq. We dont have to worry about Saddam or any of his sons chimping out and invading a neighbor at random anymore. I hope that is the outcome of this clusterfuck with less ISIS and jihad.
>>64945914Well I guess Iran is fucked. Copelord is the nostradamus of being wrong so he just cursed them
>>64947908Actual retard.
>>64946562You really don’t think things look a little different how the US is dealing with stuff now? I think we are going to kill lots of people. I don’t think the people trying to close the strait will be safe anywhere. How’s the newest supreme leader doing? I haven’t checked in a few hours.
>>64944012all im saying is we watched ukraine (with no navy) fuck up the black sea fleet multiple times and that was over the span of a couple years. the SMO only just started
>>64949506NATO is on the other side this time now, dumbass
>>64949511you don't think iran is capable of making unmanned naval drones or that russia/ china won't help them or just outright sell them to iran?
>>64949522I think they will, as we all know Russia bought Shasneeds from Iran in the first place, and China is supplying all their electronics nowbut to the extent that Ukraine fucked up the Black Sea Fleet? nocall me when CENTCOM's flagship is at the bottom of the sea, and not before
>>64949523they're still gonna get some. not even including the cargo ships they've been hitting already.
>>64944567These are the same people who think mixing "cheaper" decoy rockets in your salvo is a good idea. They are obsessed with war being some grand game of schemes and feints ultimately resulting in some coup de grace checkmate with dramatic flair as the enemy general is forced to concede and aknowledge your tactical superiority and quick subterfuge instead of the massive coordinated and simultaneous skullfucking of your enemy's troops, weapons and ability to wage war with overwhelming firepower
>>64949544because it IS a good idea, fuckwit
>>64949528They're not tho
>>64946404>>64944012>I head about the Millennium Challenge once and now I'm le expert on naval warfare hue hueGod I fucking HATE the faggot Van Riper so much, he's second only to Pierre Sprey in making millions of midwitted normies think they are in possession of some secret lore that the DoD is ignoring because the MIC would otherwise stop their adrenochrome subscriptions or something.
>>64948075>we
>>64949470Whatever the outcome anyone alive there will hate America and Israel generationally
>>64949470I hope you're right, but I have literally Zero faith in the Artesh. The current faction dominating the Artesh hate the IRGC, but only because they want to control the economy and black market in the way the IRGC does now. They are very averse to any kind of political reform or change in continuity. I do not think they will attempt to rise up until it is too late and the country is already fragmenting and incapable of being restored into a single political unit without years of brutal civil war.
>>64944148Hard to get when they cost 3000000000 rial each
>>64946561probably to sell to other bricks members, that's why they were showing it off in India
>>64944148>get issued a speedboat>just dump the peashooter overboard and flee to Oman
>>64947187US ships have backup controls if the bridge is hit
>>64949594It is not and will never be a good idea to willingly lower the effectiveness of your already cheap spam weapon with duds you fuckwit. Decoys make sense for expensive weapons. You are not saving enough money by removing the explosives from your lawnmower to justify not just sending another armed lawnmower. It is dick sucking by fags who think they're next Saladin. If the whole point of your spam rockets or shasneeds is that they're cheap as fuck to facilitate launching a fuck load of them to overwhelm AD by volume and not counter measures why would you ever willingly lower your effectiveness by launching duds when you could just launch actual weapons? They're all going towards the same target, they all have an equal chance of being intercepted unless you're twice retarded and make the duds stand out as juicier targets like a mouthbreather.>b-b-buh the fakes aren't launched at the targets!AD doesn't defend empty areas, if your fake rocket is launched at empty desert hoping to waste some AD it's just going to land in the empty desert. If it is launched at a target it's with a bunch of others to brute force a hit, that's the whole point. Launching decoys in the mix just means you have a chance to snatch defeat from victory when some empty dud makes it through after all that work. Your own goddamn pic involves a 20 to 70 million dollar missile
>>64950929>You are not saving enough money by removing the explosives from your lawnmower to justify not just sending another armed lawnmowerthe world is facing an RDX shortage let alone the Iranians, moronplus, they can use Shasneeds to hide their manoeuvring cruise missiles
>>64952494>RDX shortageThis is not a thing, check your facts. >manoeuvring cruise missilesIran literally has no cruise missiles left. Oh and word to the wise: Throwing insults around like a child is a scientifically proven indicator of a low IQ. Be better.
>>64947212>What is the Navy's doctrine on 1 U.S aircraft carrier vs 1000 dinghies?Are you stupid or trolling? We don't just sail up a lone aircraft carrier and park it 200mi off the coast. Every aircraft carrier has a complement of other ships for defensive and support purposes. Plus, I'm sure the navy pilots would love actually getting to use their guns in combat, strafing shitty speedboats.
oh fuck bros we got too cocky
Iran doesnt even need to mine the strait effectively because once there's a couple of mines commercial ships wont sail right?
>>64956384Commercial ships will largely happily risk it, if they're covered by insurance. The problem is Lloyds of London, the premiere ship insurance company, isn't offering said insurance because they're unable to accurately assess the risk, or has the prices so high that it might as well be the same.
>>64956524I believe the US is currently offering to cover the cost of the ship if the captain and the shipping company are willing to risk it. They also just seem to be turning off their transponders and running it from a clip I saw, but I don’t know how accurate that clip was.
>>64946562My suggestion was to mine out the coast so the Houthis can't approach it without blowing up their launchers. US even has provisions to drop mines by air.
>>64956368>underground naval baseHuh?
>>64946588>why did a third world dictatorship build a wunderwaffe for its cargo cult shills?No idea.
>>64946404>you>a tiny manually guided atgm strapped to a 10m resin speedboat>them>a 10k ton, 155m long arleigh burke armed to the teeththese people are so fucking retarded, real brownoids
>>64956822They're aiming at tankers, anon.
>>64956916>the strong and mighty Iran has resorted to targeting civilian ships to disrupt international shipping like the HouthisHow embarrassing.
>>64957595That's been their threat to the rest of the world since 1979, hasn't it?
>>64957583>Gaining ground = losingLets see ziggers self own themselves.
>>64956368WHERE ARE THEY?!
>>64957644Why is Russia losing ground then?
>>64957666>Dont believe your lying eyes)))))))Lol
>>64957669You haven't seen anything, just had people lies to you and you choose to believes that like a good western mutt.
>>64957677Much obliged, will check out Incel Smegma Z on telegram to check the news nafo is trying to hide))))))
>>64957680Strange your first thoughts during chimping out was of penises.
>>64957677Yes and Iran has sunk an aircraft carrier.
>>64957658>dozen+may we see them?
>>64957685Projecting pidor?
>>64957688puccia lost more than they took last month and they're gonna lose more. go back to xitter if you don't like it.
>>64957688Cope, Russia is losing ground
>>64957689I saw some retarded thread on /pol/ the other day where thirdies were saying the only reason we don't have images of all the destroyed US bases is because big tech has scrubbed them all from the Internet. Like, the entire Internet.
>>64957692You mentioned smegma retard hohol
>Iran shill switched to defending RussiaNoticed.
>>64945903No, but I can tell you that they have/had the picture of bush giving that speech printed on the tables in the galley.
>>64957685>>64957680>>64957677>>64957669Just to be clear here, there was a long stretch where Russia was slowly taking Ukraine a km at a time, and apparently this year it's reversed and Ukraine is slowly taking back territory a km at a time.The February total appears to be 400 square km in Ukraine's favor, which isn't a lot, but is also more than what Russia took in December. And more importantly it breaks the streak of "Russia just crawls forward forever"
>>64957712When was the last time Russia captured a "city"?
>>64957702And that got.you talking about cocks huh
>>64957712>ESL doesn’t know how contractions workBeautiful.
>>64957717They send one guy into no mans land then demand map painters count the whole city despite said poor fuck being already dead from a Ukrainian drone.
>>64957712>town's and city'snogunz tourist
>>64957706>post blatant AI and photoshopped shit>get scrubbed>AAAAHHH IM BEING CENSOREDIt's even better because you faggots can even post the images even on this site without getting laughed off the board
>>64957741So if someone mentions shit do you think of men's asses?
>>64952791It’s not possible for him to be better. He is brown. All he can be is brown. That’s what he is
>>64957751Reminds you of home huh
>>64957741>Everytime he gets a reply he thinks about dicksThe most heterosexual russian, lmao.
>>64957749Is the Ayatollah still a cardboard cutout?
Tangentially related Iran just bombed Oman. What’s the tactical advantage of pissing off all your neighbors for no reason?
>>64957751ew, no, disgusting reprobate.femscout on the other hand, is very hot.
>>64957840Isn’t Oman one of the few countries that was openly friendly with Iran? I’m increasingly convinced there was a plan sent to all unit commanders in the event of a decapitation strike and IRGC are carrying it out to the letter. I guess having a leader who thinks the apocalypse is coming is not a great benefit when making long term military plans.
>>64957887so it would seem, so it would seem
>>64947583Not when a half-dozen MANPADs are converging on the.
>>64957992oh sorryon the flare
>>64957992They got him
>>64957887>Isn’t Oman one of the few countries that was openly friendly with Iran?They've been offering to mediate negotiations between US and Iran since the start, so I would think Iran and Oman are at least on cordial terms.You'd think even with a decentralized, field-level command acting out some decapitation strike contingency, these commanders would go>We seem to be on good terms with these ones, maybe shooting at them would be silly.It's not like they're in the submarine detached from updates from the outside world.
>>64957840This is the same country that just pushed out an AI-generated Lego propaganda video
>>64957887A deadman’s switch but in this case its a deadretard’s switch>if I am dead it means the entire world turned against me so bomb everyoneLMAO
>>64958053>>We seem to be on good terms with these ones, maybe shooting at them would be silly.how messed up is their ability to communicate with others or observe real conditions outside their area? or lol bring about the apocalypse or whatever
>>64957887I think the idea is to hit all nearby refinery/storage areas to force the world to save themWhy the world would tell the US to stop as opposed to Iran is yet to be seen but eh
>>64958053No they are not in the submarine but yes they are subhuman.That’s the thing with abrahamic religions. End of the world obsession>we need to end the world because uh because uuuuhhh just because okYeah no wonder the world is securalizing
>>64958212That doesn’t explain dubai hotels and no, brownoids on twitter saying mossad did it doesn’t cut it senpai. Not when IRCG takes credit for it. They could easily pin the blame of these attacks on mossad false flags but they don’t because they want whores in hotels to burn up in flames and they want the afterlife clout
>>64958212I'll admit the idea is sound, if you don't mind owning the label of rogue state.The doctrine is made up of two basic points>Harass everyoneIran has two ways to apply pressure, rockets/drones and economic pressure.With rockets and drones, Iran is applying pressure on surrounding countries that, unlike Israel, aren't geared for a war with Iran and whose home-front isn't accustomed to situations like these.With economic pressure (by "closing" the strait, or at least threatening to do so) Iran is hitting everyone else, but mainly the first world democracies. There, the population sees an imminent cost of living increase and, being democracies, they immediately begin applying pressure on their elected officials for it to end.>Last long enoughIran needs to demonstrate its regime is not going anywhere, and it needs to do so at all costs.The former point makes the US and its allies anxious to be done with it, and if Iran manages to broadcast "stability" (in the sense of "not collapsing"), it sends the message that this is not going anywhere and is a fool's errand.Notice how almost immediately Trump was bombarded with "how long is this shit going to take?" on a daily basis.Also notice how the narrative /pol/tards are trying to push is equating it to the Russian "SMO".This is the strategic equivalent to a kid getting an indian burn in recess going "n-nah this doesn't hurt" hoping the other kid gives up before he says uncle.
>>64958348This strategy might have worked, if they had continued to hammer countries with US bases and Israel. Eventually the loss of money and pressure from the people in those countries catching stray missiles/drones because there’s a US base in the country might have worked long term. The problem is now they are attacking neutral countries like Azerbaijan and Oman with no US bases. Now the friendly nations have plenty of ammo to spin Iran as a mad dog that needs to be put down, plus they’re Shia so there’s that friction as well. I’m hoping one of the IRGC commanders goes full retard and invades Afghanistan just so the US and Taliban have alliance 2: electric boogaloo.
>>64958348>>64958443Do you believe any of this is happening without the tacit admission of gulf states ?
>>64947212>What is the Navy's doctrine on 1 U.S aircraft carrier vs 1000 dinghies?Capsizing them with the wake wave
>>64958443>shiaThat fact of life gets zero air-time on this board. Those retards flinging shit on their sunni neighbors is doing nothing but giving said neighbors a tangible reason to ignore them getting bombed into glass.
>>64945914>Achmed, did you fire the 4 PM missile at the Jew dogs?
>>64956524>They'll happily get blown up>They have insurance>Except they don'tBros is Trump posting with us on /k/?
>>64959950Learn to read bozo
>>64959954>Commercial ships full of flammable material will be happy to have Shaheds flown into them as long as they have insuranceOk.>The premiere shipping insurance company is not offering insranceOk I'm with you.>They cannot assess the risk or have prices equal to ship and cargo loss (probably crew too)Ok... but didn't they just assess the risk as a near 100% chance of loss then?So you propose that the reason they don't have insurance is because they will get blown up if they cross the strait? I too blame the insurer for not covering it.
>>64959965Trump’s offered to cover their insurance bill if the shipping company agrees. Not that it matters since Russian oil is now flowing freely.
Remember kids, the media says:
>>64959981So we just let the ships get blown up then we print dollars or pay for it with more debt. This is brilliant, best idea ever. Now we just need crews willing to be blown up and set on fire... I know, we'll pay them too. Now that's what I call a bullet proof plan haha no pun intended.
>>64959981>NOOOOO THE HECKIN WAR CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING OR ELSE IT'S BAD MUH CONSOOOMPTIONThis is why the west is getting overrun by aggressive browns.
>>64959965That the insurance assessed the risk as 100% chance of loss doesn't mean the actual risk is 100% chance of loss (they never assessed the risk that comically high anyway). Iran's targeting and attacks are looking more feeble every day. You're a retard if you think the strait is some guaranteed kill zone.People have already successfully made the run. More will as they determine the reward is worth the risk. Some companies are playing it safer and waiting for a higher reward for more reduced risk.
>>64956818>>underground naval baseI made them all the time in Minecraft.
>>64959997>Some companies are playing it safer and waiting for a higher reward for more reduced risk.This. Prices going up will outweigh risk of going for it, noting that the risk is decreasing as more iranians die. Trump being an absolute coward is probably going to stop the bombing before market pressure gets too bad tho.
>>64959997>That the insurance assessed the risk as 100% chance of loss doesn't mean the actual risk is 100% chance of loss (they never assessed the risk that comically high anyway).Then why is the cost of insurance the same cost as losing the ship and it's cargo and crew?>Iran's targeting and attacks are looking more feeble every day. Then why won;t they insure it?>You're a retard if you think the strait is some guaranteed kill zone.It's a 30 mile wide super narrow passage surrounded by hostile mountains armed with all sorts of missiles and drones in a >180 degree arc. And mines too. Several ships have been blown up, they aren't being blown up anymore that much because they aren't fucking crossing it.
>>64960028Can I see these blown up ships?
>>64960036Is this board tarded or something? Also this article is dated like today, meaning we were unable to destroy these minelayers until they were actually deployed and laying mines.
>>64947212In the hypothetical scenario that all escorts are preoccupied (let's just say it's Superbowl night) and that for some unfathomable reason all aircap is absent (maybe they didn't feel like it) the onboard CIWS can send them all to Davey Jones' locker.In the real world, however, they'd get evaporated with a standoff munition beyond visual range the second they break their moorings because they had been observed and catalogued by a multitude of satellites and ISR UAVs for months.
>>64960049Why did you link an article with video of Iranian ships getting blown up? Can I see these destroyed merchant ships or did you not understand the request?
I'm seeing a lot of unironic zigger mentality on this board, but directed towards Iran. It doesn't matter if Iran loses all of their large surface combatants for the same reason it didn't matter when Ukraine lost their surface fleet: those ships were always doomed against a larger opponent, and the fundamental focus is on using drones and small boats in asymmetric warfare. If the USN is so mighty, then why haven't they escorted any cargo ships yet?
>>64960100I mean the speedboats did get fucked in that one released footage
>>64960094>Three crew members from the Thailand-flagged cargo ship Mayuree Naree are reported missing after being struck in the Strait of Hormuz. / ROYAL THAI NAVY / Royal Thai Navy/Handout via REUTERSIt's OK guys we'll just insure the crew members.
>>64960105Would you classify this as a ship that’s been blown up? You need to choose your words more carefully Arab-kun.
>>64960049struck with what dumbass nothing there says they hit any mines
>>64960094i mean it is being reported but it wasnt necessarily mines. also its not very impressive
>>64960094They were talking about how they waxed a chinese flagged and crewed tanker earlier today in a different thread. They've hit at least 3, but i think 2 (the chinese and one other) are total losses.
>>64960105but is the oil ok?
>>64960112Is this board nothing but bots?
>>64960104Yeah but speedboats are cheap. Iran could realistically have thousands of them, especially if they requisition civilian ones.
>>64960118So it wasn’t blown up like the many many Iranian ships that were blown up which we have video of. I know Arab-kun struggles with English, but you’re going to have to try harder my Iranian friend.
>speedboats don't w-ack!
>>64960152wow it works for attacking an unarmed merchant vessel what happened to sinking an aircraft carrier like you retards have been promising
>>64944350he lives in thailand
NGL it was kinda surprising to me that even with all of the drones, satellites, and AI in the world, Iran can still deter the USN from the strait. I thought they would've lost all of their power projection by now.
>>64960130>Muh semanticsEmbarrassing. It got hit, has a gaping hole at water level and is smoking. 3 people missing (dead). It might have sank by now. Also a Honduran tanker was hit by 2 drones and was on fire. This is what closing the strait means.
>>64960165we used to have a navy of nearly 600 warships 30 years ago but the politicians quickly gutted it. now we can barely field 2 carriers for a single operation. why spend money on a military when you can pocket it instead? corruption is destroying us.
>>64960166> Several ships have been blown up, they aren't being blown up anymore that much because they aren't fucking crossing it.Semantics is important Arab-kun, especially for ESL Iranians.
>>64960165>the SEA monkey says its ogrelol, lmao may the nukes come out just so i can see the cope after
>>64960174>us
>>64960176>zigger posting
>>64960175Aight you do you
>strait is closedLolChinese ships and ships going china are allowed
>>64960157The Ayatollah altering the cope, pray he does not alter it any further
they need to hundreds more speed boats to accomplish anything
>>64960184Nah, a zigzog would say that we will nuke you, i'm saying i want to see your spazzy cope
>>64960221need to hit*it won't be until this list is saturated with boats that there's even a chance to clear anything and by that time Trump will have chickened out
>>64960165Massive saturation attacks with cheap explosive drones (which are easy to deploy mind you) are something modern western militaries, which use relatively sparse and extremely expensive air defense missiles for everything, are not good at. Ukraine fends off hundreds of shaheds in less than 24 hours, and yet some still get through. The solution is using interceptors and AI to lessen the workload for operators, which is what Ukrainians have been working toward but Americans have their heads in the sand for. CIWS alone is not going to be able to clear a swarm fast enough to protect everyone, there are too many targets
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>>64960233opps meant to say seeing these damn thirdies delusion about whooping America's ass everywhere
>>64960236the problem is that even if the US is BTFO their ability to strike beyond Iran it's extremely easy for them to not concede, to not make a deal with Trump and therefore winTrump decided to play a really dumb game and frankly I don't see why Iran would concede on anything no matter how much equipment worth a JDAM they lose
>>64960233>they've also destroyed a bunch of our...satellitesOh no, Imam Khomeini Spaceport's crater successfully launched destroyed ballistic missiles at the most advanced space force in the world using missiles that are famously inaccurate. Starlink is kill. I guess it's time to let Iran get a nuke!
>>64960231>Ukraine fends off hundreds of shaheds in less than 24 hours, and yet some still get throughquite literally most do, let's not be delusional. >daily stats intercepted 114 out of 100 drones believer behaviorAlso, there's no solution with AI. There's no easily solution for such things. Maybe in 20-30, most likely 50 years when we get actual AI and not a retard calculator/google search extension. At this stage, letting a robot fire anything is a disaster in progress.
>>64960249We've been using AI tools in the US military for almost 40 years. Adding LLM-based genAI may be new, but we're way beyond where you seem to think we are.
>>64960196lol indeed.
>>64960261We didn't even have drone interceptors until yesterday when we ordered LITAVR from Ukraine.
>>64960296https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/03/27/roadrunner-and-coyote-navy-set-deploy-land-based-anti-drone-systems-sea.htmlI wish I was as confidently stupid as some of the people who post on this board
>>64960261Making a leap from AI assisting to AI making a decision to execute on it's own is huge. It's a huge distance between between something that is assisting a human operator and something that works on it's own completely.I know it's a goldmine and everyone in AI dreams of jumping on that bandwagon of endless military funding to build US a new super army of robots, but let's be fair. This is closer to the Elon Musk tier of Mars Colonization, neurolink etc promises of bright future than reality. The gap is just too wide to get our current AI to have something that resembles a human decision making. Copying actions studied from video footage will only get you so far when you do not have an actual brain to make decisions based on the current situation that has not been foreseen before
>>64960261>>64960315Neural net based targeting alone is (potentially) game changing. It has issues obviously with reliability and ethical concerns, but if you can give every single munition an optical sensor package and a brain smart enough to recognize targets, you've just neutered like 2/3rds of all forms of electronic warfare on the planet. It would still be useful for BVR combat of course but, even then you just home on jam and the camera aims for the launcher. You've moved your munitions into the realm of requiring a dazzler or hardkill to stop.
>>64960261Statistical analysis is not AI>>64960315More importantly, AI is unable to reason logically, the fact that it constantly fucks up math proves this. It cannot remember a large set of informal logical rules and apply them to every new situation.
>>64943973Bumping this thread, because it exposes the retardation of all the mulattos who initially posted in it
>>64960264Nowhere in the original thread is it written that the Chinese ship got attacked.The original threas says that it changed course after a thai ship in its view got fucked.The idiot replying to it them claims something different, to get dumb mulattos to repost ot for Elon shekels.And you are one of those mulattos who fall for it and you even save it to post it here.Mulattos are incapable of reading statements of facts, they can only read what they want to read and interept a different meaning into it, if it suites them.
>>64960388is this AI-generated?
>>64960396yes, it is, in reality, the US navy is already escorting ships through the strait.Do not believe any media that tells you otherwise.
>>64960175the fuck? do you think a ship being blown up means exploding into fine dust, preferably in slow-motion and with 3 quick scene repeats beforehand?
>>64960417Don't waste your time talking to a mulatto.I think they have proven in the past weeky espacially itt, that they are just low iq subhumans.
>>64960417It should probably look something like the Arab boats getting blown up in port. I know nuance and understanding the written word is difficult for brownoids and ziggers but they should at least try.
>>64960166>>64960420>a ship being hit>a ship being destroyed>this is semanticsThis is you and yours being inferior, as always
Barely 2 weeks in and the brownoid has lowered the bar all the way to 'iran can still do houthi drone chimp out'
>>64960152Having an Apache running overwatch would pop those fuckers like balloons.
>>64960445I believe the current brownoid cope is the straits closed and they’re finally attacking tankers with drones. Which is weird since ships have been reporting attacks since the first and news agencies are reporting ships are turning off transponders and traveling through. I imagine to the brownoid an inability to understand time or cause and effect makes navigating the world difficult.
>>64960117I don't think it was carrying oil, other pic of it. I think it was like ore or one of those open container things.
>>64960460>open container thingsbulk carriers is the wordoften used for shipping grain and ore
>>64960398>sarcasmOh, so its both fake AND gay, got it.
>>64957712You'll cope all the way to Moscow, zigger. Slava Ukrani TZD
>>64960417It should look like the Iranian destroyer in India sinking spectacularly as the creee gets launched into the air 100 ft.
>>64960445>Blow up supreme leader>Attacks civilians not even involved in this shitIran everyone
>>64960388Nice AI.
>>64960460Is that a wood stock FN MAG???
>>64961143It’s all muslims that are born in the west that truly seethe over this war.Pic rel the average LION fighting from behind their keyboard in leeds ingerland>OUR countries >OUR brothers Like bro just go back no one is stopping you
>>64962298Nothing surprising there, navies get the old shit when it comes to small arms
>>64961143this isn't r/Ukraine bud.
>>64943973Brian BerletićAmerican independent geopolitical conspiracy theorist; propagandist;Thanks. Another quality source.
>>64949506That was against Russia who has lost every single naval war they’ve ever fought
>speedboat status Sunk
