Another Shahid Soleimani class has become a martyr.
>call boat Shahid >it becomes a Shahid great success?
Oh is that why the shill screeching has ramped up to 11 this morning
>>64949837He still wants that Nobel Peace prize tho
>>64949837The ride doesnt stop, no crying in the casino
>>64949837Gas prices?
>>64949830As long as there are no boots on the ground no one will care.
>>64949830Guess we need to sink more boats then until they get the idea.
>>64949837Elon put in the call fpr a favor owed. Gotta bump up those Tesla sales one way or the other. That's why China is also just paying lip service. They'd be far angrier in their press statements if they weren't getting anything in return behind the curtains.
>>64949785OH MY GOD A MUSHROOM CLOUD THAT MUST GAVE BEEN A NUKE!
>>64949837>gets bonked with peace boardKind of fucking crazy how much heavy military shipping has been sunk over the last 5 years in the Black Sea and now in Persian Gulf getting shit all wrecked. Used to be you'd go decades in between something getting sunk or screwing up and sinking, now its on the regular
>>64949837This is what you voted for
>>64949837I DRIVE A HONDA CIVICWE ARE NOT THE SAME
>>64949837IDGAF about gas prices, I just want to see uppity sandnigger shit fucked up.t. not even a burger so my prices are probably 3x yours
>>64949837You came here for war, and war was given to you
>>64949837already been paying too much for ammo so this barely affects me
>immediate TDS seethingFrom that alone, the whole crew must have been killed.
>>64949837>Gas is expensivelol, lmao. Should live in a cheaper state and not gay ass california
>>64949878Toropets status!?!?
>>64949878>>64950064You're joking but Cirno has already claimed that Trump nuked Iran at least once.
>>64950073>Trump nuked Iran at least once.Makes sense. He didn't want to live in the shadow of Obama's war fighting capability or Zelenkizsyiyiy's decisive bloodthirstiness so he has decided to start more wars and nuke harder than either.
>>64949878Yeah, that's the Iranian tactical nuke cooking off. They got it just in time.
>>64949862How does starting a war and refusing to end it help him get a Nobel Peace Prize though?
>>64950178He's trying to follow in Obama's footsteps
>>64949830Hormuz status?
>>64949785Nooo stop blowing them up, stealth ships are cool! It's not like they can do anything, leave them alone.
>>64949837I disagree. If you are going to do a job, dont leave it half assed that's just the worst of both worlds.
>>64949837>. Gas is expensive as fuck.It's gonna get a lot worse
I see we moved from "Lots of Americans will die" to "Americans will grumble avout gas prices"
>>64949905Not caring about how something affects you as long as third worlders hundreds or thousands miles away suffer is the opposite of Chad behaviour
>>64950273>Americans will grumble about gas pricesthey will thoughand why shouldn't they? they just want to grill
>>64950181Obama did not start any wars. Arguably Libya, which was really intervening in a civil war.Also he got the prize before he had done anything, including Libya. Like months into his first term.
>>64950284Okay, you're right. He missed his chance so he's going for plan B which is to keep starting wars until they give him a Peace Prize. He probably should have sent them a memo outlining the plan but a real negotiator doesn't reveal his hand
>>64950280You don't use gasoline for grilling thoughbeit
>>64950273I don't know why people get up in arms about it desu. Especially considering what it costs everywhere else. The knock on effects make sense, but even my gas guzzling sports car costs 50 dollars a week on premium
>>64950294Are you still a a charcoal chud? in 2026? grow up
>>64950311Do you have a natural gas line piped into your grill or something? Am I being autistic rn?
>>64949791/pol/ is having a very, very bad time trying to persuade themselves Iran is winning.
>>64950311
>>64949785How much fucking fuel was on that thing?
>>64950323You can see it all over this thread.
>>64950289>plan B which is to keep starting wars until they give him a Peace Prizelisten up smart guy: if you suddenly start 20 wars as the aggressor and then stop them, then guess what: you've stopped the most wars in history.
>>64949785Okay but how does this affect gas prices in Concord & Lexington?
>>64950311Is this a thirdoid self report? We use propane...
>>64950341Oil prices are global.
>>64950348Wood is superior. A bunch of bricks and long, stainless skewers is best setup for grilling.
>>64950348Propane prices are basically in lock step with gas prices I thought you knew that gas price really means 'fuel' prices almost regardless of the fuel source except perhaps charcoal
>>64950357With walkable cities, Americans always win
>>64950364also that smoky flavour adds SOVL (as the kids call it these days) to the meat, propane meat is boring by comparison, hank hill can eat my ass.
>>64950073Nukes don't exist retard
>>64950348Hank...
>>64949785finally more kino
>>64950417>hank hill can eat my ass.With efficient, clean-burning propane he'd taste the ass, not the gas.
>>64950485It's funny because the torpedo destroyed an Iranian ship and killed a bunch of their sailors!
>>64950289Bambi vs Godzilla was quite a war too.Didn't you see all the hits Bambi got in?
>>64950306>I dont get why people are up in arms about one of the few daily necessities that has until now remained relatively unaffected by inflation is suddenly getting turbo ratfucked.
>>64950382Buddy there is a difference between LNG and crude oil. These are 2 separately traded commodities that are just scarce in the third world for obvious reasons.
>>64950306An election year means all grumblings will become overblown in the act of political power getting shuffled around.
>>64949837>>64949863>>64949862>>64949891Gas here still cheaper than it was 2 years agoKeep crying about your precious shitskins. Don't breathe in in Tehran
>>649502802 more weeks and those 16,000 dead americans thomas massie promised will arrive. Just 15,993 more to go.
>>64949790>but do you mean ShaHID or shaHIID?
>>64950277gas prices are still lower than it was under biden. My life isn't remotely effected.
>>64950323I just hopped in from a /pol/ thread where Israeli troops were "slaughtered" in Lebanon (they'd had two casualties but the comments make it sound like a platoon) and apparently multiple Israeli jets have been shot down yesterday. And an Israeli power plant was hit and Tel Aviv is totally blacked out. Hints that Israel is open to negotiate to end the war are interpreted as Israel losing badly and being pounded 24/7 by Shaheds and being totally out of interceptors. Fucking delusional over there
>>64950662Gas prices seem to be all over the place as stations are very obviously taking advantage to overcharge at least in the short term. Since oil prices have already gone below $100, I expect them to start going down dramatically as gas stations have a mini price war pretending as if what the price should be is a "deal"
>>64950273You know, whatever. Iran in 2025 was a lot more capable of holding the oil trade in the region hostage than it was in 2015. Letting it continue to build up and improve its drones would have meant Iran in 2030 or 2035 would be an even bigger headache. Bombing them so country is somewhere between Syria 2.0 and the surface of the moon is a good investment for gas prices. They are spiked now, but soon enough the oil will flow. And now the US has offered to insure a bunch of that trade, flexing on the UK.
>>64950703The war made them spike, as wars do, but the FUD in the media that made it seem like Iran could actually keep up the drone barrages of the first day surely extended the panic
>>64950587>until recentlyLol the cycle of>OMG GAS IS OVER 3 DOLLARS A GALLON!!!!1!!1>well 2 dollars isn't so bad>OMG 4 DOLLARS?!?!>well it's back down to 3, that's so much better>5 DOLLARS?!?!?!?!?>phew... glad it's back down to 4Has been going on since I got my first car in the early 2000's, in fact the cost of gas was the primary driving force behind the GWOT being blamed on oil that's been memed into midwit common sense.
>>64950284He started seven you ignorant joke.
>>64950691it's ridiculous. the sad part is i don't think the multipolars are even getting paid to say these things. currently the cope is that iran doesn't have the ability launch the smaller missiles anymore and that's a good thing! since they'll only fire the 1 ton+ weapons... i guess. idk the footage is pretty cool i thought that flaming river of sewage in tehran was awesome looking
>>64950763It's pure demoralized cope and reverting to clan-based nonsense of "THEY DIDNT KILL US ALL THEREFORE WE WIN". Iran is probably going to turn into multiple ethnicity/culture based countries with the US holding the strait-based ones, and they will still somehow say this is a victory
>>64950740Which ones?
>>64950763The narrative like two days ago was how swarms of small weapons would be the key. "Mosaic" strategy was the buzzword cope for "our centralized leadership is all dead". Also lol the cope of "actually Israel/US were just destroying painted shadows" disintegrated and instantly shifted "Israel/US are bombing the innocent Iranian regime too hard."Fuck, even CNN took down its live war update ticker from its frontpage when it realized it was all just going to be similar footage from IR cameras of Iranian things exploding.
>>64950783>He doesn't know about the Gayniger Invasion of 2011You must be 18 to post here
>>64950785>"Israel/US are bombing the innocent Iranian regime too hard."if i had talent and time i'd make a metronome meme of violent genocidal chest thumping vs crying about being bullied for iran but alas i have neither time or talent.
>>64950783>The War on Christmas>Operation New Dawn>South Sudan War of Independence>2011 Invasion of Pakistan>?>?>Profit
Related, the narrative about comparative weapon costs is utter cope. Comparing prices is useful, but in active wartime it is only useful as shorthand for production capacity. When one side has a lot of expensive weapons stockpiled and the other side has used up many of their cheap weapons + had their production capacity destroyed it doesn't matter.
>>64950825When they started using US dollars in terms of comparison it was irrelevant. The problem Iran has is that they can't use American dollars otherwise spending it just puts it into circulation which helps the US, so they have to use either Iran's own devalued-to-nothing currency or something like rubles/yuan, both also heavily devalued. At the end of the day the US can easily absorb the cost of a war with one nation that can't even defend itself, and has proven to not be able to defend itself
>>64950277>Not caring about how something affects you as long as third worlders hundreds or thousands miles away suffer is the opposite of Chad behaviourUnless you live in Midland or Houston then it's a win-win. Fat-assed white girls wear rhinestone-encrusted daisy dukes are going to need bigger rhinestones. You BTW if you're interested in energy diversification did you know that propane can do everything natural gas can do... and more?
>>64950818>>The War on ChristmasNever forgetti
>gas prices go up>heh not a problem i can still afford gas for my car and i dont drive that often o<[]:~)as long as you also only buy things that are grown/produced on the spot you're buying them from, you'll continue being unaffected which is greatnow, if something had to be transported and/or needed its subassemblies to be transported and/or its production required transportation of other things then uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Anyways, looks like $100+ was the line in the sand, Donnie is about to TACO and the kino will end
>>64950763They’re also completely miscalculating what the war’s detractors both left and right actually disagree with. The thirdies are going with the “Iran is le innocent bean” when people are really upset about Congress being circumvented for the three hundredth time by a president.No one gives half a shit about Iran. They’re not like Palestine where there’s a certain narrative of a bunch of people living in squalor being bombed by a disruptive regional power. Iran IS one of those disruptive regional powers.
>>64950887Late post shill, oil prices are already going down from 110 to 94 and will continue to drop
>>64950916
>>64950916I feel like abandoning things now leaves you geopolitically worse off than doing nothing, because the Regime you vassilated on changing now absolutely despises you and will probably double down on their previous behaviour. Come to think of it doesn't this make Israel less secure as well? Would they sign off on this?
>>64950958Yeah, now Iran might start funding insurgents and building missiles.
>>64950919You say that, but I saw plenty of footage of pro-Iran protests of various sizes, naturally accompanied by Palestinian flagsSo there are in fact retards who buy into the "Iran is innocent" narrative
>>64951000It's a worrying prospect. I fear that outcome.
>>64949830And if the US decided to pull out next week? You'll probably still say they lost because the Iranian government didn't get toppled. Pathetic. Iran has been totally crippled, and they're probably going to be dealing with massive internal strife in the coming weeks and months, probably Azeri separatist shenanigans among other things.
>>64950916TACO is the universal rule.
>>64951097The actual real goal all alongto build another Monaco in the Trump GulfProbably
>>64951074>You'll probably still say they lost because the Iranian government didn't get toppledI mean... wasn't that the point of all this? I'm not even trolling or shitting you now, I genuinely thought the whole point of this was regime change.
>>64951103Most probably not. How fucking stupid would you have to be to believe that 2 carriers could topple a regime by bombing the people who ALWAYS without fail rally to the flag when there's an external threat?
>>64951107A trump-tier intellect.
>>64951103There are plenty of people who believe the Iranian government was rotten to the core, riddled with Mossad agents and traitors, and Khomeini was already a US asset. "Regime change" doesn't mean what you think it means. Either way, this war has severely degraded whatever influence Iran had in the region, its ability to project any kind of force. Israel will also probably use this opportunity to annex portions of southern Lebanon.
>>64951118The fuck are are you talking about? They have been funding terrorists with the specific goal to be as disruptive as possible. That was the whole reason the Houthis tried to keep ships from using the Suez Canal.
>>64951115if you take Trump at is his word I have an invoice for a wall you need to pay in 30 days
>>64951097Wait, wasnt there like a shitload of other goals as well?
>>64951128probably but as usual Trump is going to fuck shit up and leaveThat's more fun anyway
>>64951128It began without any goals at all.
>>64950311...wood you fucking degenerate.
>>64951174If Rubio was being any bit truthful it began with being unable or unwilling to stop Israel. So the "goals" probably do flow from mitigating the impact of Iranian response
>>64951183We already agreed that that guy is a bit propane shill
>>64951185Rubio being the most truthful and trustworthy voice on this team is a depressing fucking bar.
>>64951199I've always had a softspot for Marco, but i think that its because i have also worked as a tardwrangler at tard summercamp a few times
>>64951223I'm a Jew Yorker. He's responsible for Bridge Gate. Never forgetti.
>>64951223that's weird I always hated the guy but he's the only one saying things that make sense for a bit
>>64949830>So what if you banged by wife? She’s the one who sleeps in my bed at night.
I'm happy both of the Democrats on /k/ were able to find each other so they could jerk each other raw.
The US is on the ropes! Crude oil prices (which have been speedily dropping since their spike) will politically kill Trump, and the USN will be obliterated by infinite numbers of unstoppable lightspeed speedboats! The US underestimated Iran's air drones and even though they handily dominated the air, it only proves how much Iran is going to dominate the sea!
>>64951250kys spiclover
>>64951223He seems like a "loyal grand vizier" archetype
>>64951118>providing financial and material support to terrorists in:>syria>lebanon>jordan>iraq>yemen>basically everywhere else theres a shiite diasporaSit down and shut up, habibi.
>>64951253>or naval collapsewhat are these retards talking about
>>64951280Literally, the article says the USN is scared of engaging Iran's navy and that the small Iranian speedboats are going to overwhelm and destroy them
>>64951282Liberal news media and /pol/ rhetoric are indistinguishable and I don't know who should be more embarrassed but it's the funniest fucking shit ever.
>>64951280There are at least three realities going right now. TDS reality, Trumptard reality and the disappointing reality.
>>64951223Yeah watching him try to hide in the couch during the Zelensky-shitfest just sold me on him being a politician with a plan of not burning bridges before 2028 comes around.
>>64951020There’s also a subset of people who eat feces. Similarly they’re a small number and their advice should be disregarded.
>>64951308Me: The US is obviously militarily dominating. It isn't a clean flawless victory since the US hasn't actually fought this scale of drones before and probably underestimated Iran by more than it should have, resulting in the THAAD radar loss, but overall a molehill being turned into a mountain. AARs on this first big engagement against drone swarms will echo down through US military doctrine. If the Trump admin isn't retarded enough to do another full nationbuilding adventure, this will be looked at as a political black eye/"wtf" movement and gives the dems lots of political ammo against any Republican in the next Congress and down the road presidential elections. Wide scale, I think a neutered Iran probably is a good thing. It will still hate the US but it's already at 100% hate so, like, 110% hate isn't exactly a measure difference. The US sending a missile into that girls school on day one is something I'm torn on. On one hand the US lies a lot and this admin might just be that sloppy; on the other hand Iran lies A LOT and it sure is convenient for Iranian PR sympathy that this missile of all things hit a girls school.
>>64951368>On one hand the US lies a lot and this admin might just be that sloppy; on the other hand Iran lies A LOTI believe it. It's the first (or second) vibe bombing campaign. The people who were supposed to review didn't put as much work into as they should have.
>>64951382But it's not like this missile was one among a wave. It was the opening strike. What are the fucking chances that missile #1 hits the single most sympathetic target after a puppy daycare? I dunno, I have no proofs, but man it just screams middle eastern hand wringing, which is something they've perfected in that part of the world. On the other hand Trump admin is filled with people with Botox poisoned brains. On the other other hand, surely a bunch of sweaty nerds that never go on camera have to have picked the targets. Even with vibe targeting, this was missile #1. On the other other other hand, Trump probably can't find Iran on a map.
>>64951406>On the other other hand, surely a bunch of sweaty nerds that never go on camera have to have picked the targets.On the other hand what if it it was outsourced to jeets or Kenyans like every other AI review task
>>64951368>The US sending a missile into that girls school on day one is something I'm torn on. What's there to be torn about? It was a fuck up, a disastrous one, but a mistake nonetheless.>On one hand the US lies a lot and this admin might just be that sloppy;They don't decide on specific targets at the administrative level, this is more likely than not to be an intel failure (it WAS part of an IRGC complex), with operator error being a distant second option.This mistake would have happened regardless of the party, administration or president in charge. (assuming the actual operation is a given)>on the other hand Iran lies A LOT and it sure is convenient for Iranian PR sympathy that this missile of all things hit a girls school.Oh they are going to milk that shit for as long as they can, but I don't buy into the idea that even the Iranians are so cartoonishly evil as to bomb their own school. (on purpose, anyway)I've learned to wait for official investigation results when it comes to these sort of things and avoid gut reactions ever since that one episode with the hospital in Gaza that ended up being "attacked" by a malfunctioning Hamas rocket.
>>64951423No, me being torn is on if it is true it was a girls school. Obviously real missile, but how hard is it to put blood on a backpack and scream it was a girls school?
>>64951423And also "it was part of a military complex BUT that one specific building got repurposed for the most sympathetic reasons possible" is just. Too perfect? And yes the Israeli hospital bombing story is exactly why I'm torn. Right now everyone is pushing bs. If I'd said I was torn the day after that story, people would call me a bunch of pro-Israel slurs for defending bombing a hospital. So, I'm torn and I'll wait and see
>>64951282>>64951300i don't want to believe they could be that retarded. what are they saying now that all of iran's boats transitioned to submarines?
>>64951423>What's there to be torn about?Whether those girls ever existed
I am a bit upset that Trump didn't order the capture of all of these ships and then they were just used to test weapons and make artificial reefs for wildlife.
>>64951462Look, the article was posted today. It's saying the Iranian conventional navy don't matter because the Iranian suicide speedboats will lock down the strait and if the USN tries to open it up, the USN will get overwhelmed. Literally the same doomscript they had for the infinite waves of air drones overwhelming US land/air assets. These people talk as if the US can and will only be on the defensive, and won't be proactively hunting down these boats before they launch.
>>64951428>>64951469OhWell, probably? it would be outrageously audacious to completely pull it out of your ass without SOME kernel of truth.In the Gaza hospital story there was at least the kernel of the hospital BEING bombed and there being a lot of casualties...Though now that I think about it, you'd think they'd parade these bodies to prove their point, they wouldn't be above that, now I'm not so certain myself.>>64951446>And also "it was part of a military complex BUT that one specific building got repurposed for the most sympathetic reasons possible" is just. Too perfect? Well, to play devil's advocate, the IRGC is a fuckhuge organization spanning pretty much every possible aspect of national life.Imagine if in the US boy/girl scouts, the YMCA, most publicly funded community centers, all national guards, most unions, the FBI and the marine corps were all sub-groups of a single umbrella organization whose leadership is appointed by his eminence the supreme reverend Trump.That school actually was under that umbrella, operated by that same super-organization, so that's why it was in that complex and why it's at least plausible it was changed from valid target to a girl's religious school without intel noticing.>>64951470Would you really want to try crossing the atlantic on the drone carrier to get it back to the US? I sure wouldn't
>>64951489>Would you really want to try crossing the atlantic on the drone carrier to get it back to the USWho said they need to go back to the US? There are plenty of places in the Indian Ocean that could use it and there are plenty of ways to test weapons.
>>64951482>Look, the article was posted today.jesus fucking christ on his throne with his head in his hands in disappointmenti hope there is hd footage
US/Israel holy alliance is simply unstoppable.
>>64951482>Look, the article was posted todayjesus cnn is fucking retarded
>>64951489US missiles are so good they atomize everyone inside a building. No dead bodies and definitely no injured survivors who were on the other side of the building.
I'm shocked this hasn't shown up as a moto patch or nose art
>>64950311Mesquite smoker for the big stuff, electric grill with pellet smoke for quick meals.>>64950348...and propane accessories?
>>64949785>name ship after loser terroristforeshadowing
>>64950703>>64950717Somebody posted last night that a trader had taken a massive short position on oil in a single trade. Either they knew something, or they were rolling brass dice.
What the fuck happened to this boarddon't get me wrong I have no issue seeing the Ayatollah get got or IRGC cunts getting blown up but this war is objectively retarded and does nothing but destabilise the world, fuck over western allies in the region, potentially europe and SEA if the straight stays closed much longer, all for the wishes of Israel. I'm literally doing a masters in security studies with professors who are the furthest thing from the usual academia fifth columnists and yet even they were all discussing how retarded trump is being, one even described the US as having stuck its neck (not its foot, its neck) in a bear trap. Why is every thread on this board so aggressively in favour of the war suddenly? Again, I can understand being happy that the regime is getting fucked over in a vacuum, but this war is retarded.
>>64951661>Hello I am from the Ohio Oblast and...
>>64951657He probably made his money back.
>>64950916>>64950938>>64951021>>64951097>>64951096do you faggots have any idea how obvious you are?
>>64951666look man I'll post my fucking british and french passports if you want me to prove I'm a westerner. I genuinely just don't think this war, or at least, the WAY this war is being fought, is a bad idea. If there was a clear set of aims and a clear path to achieve them, then depending on those aims I'd happily support fucking over Iran, but this reeks of strategic incompetence. Not operational/tactical incompetence mind you - the US is obviously buttfucking the Iranians militariliy speaking - but strategic incompetence, i.e. not having a good plan.
>>64951661Tbh i don’t even think all that many people disagree with you other than unironic israeli shills + people who reactionarily respond to everything the same way as a reflex after daily torrents of muslim shilling.Personally i enjoy watching shit blown up, but i think the value of further reducing iran’s relevance by taking out their long range strike capacity when they were already suffering from economic meltdown and unrest doesn’t outweigh the shitstorm it’s causing to the global economy.
>>64951661>but this war is objectively retarded and does nothing but destabilise the worldStrengthens and secures Israel 's position in the region. They're the only ones who benefit while Trump spends the arsenal of democracy earmarked for CHAI-NAH. That's the one and only thing that's happening.
>>64951673Okay do it. Also show they are current
>>64951673*militarily
>>64951676I'm not doxxing my fucking passport details you fuckhead lmaoyou can even see my hand before you call me nonwhite too
>>64950879>existing national distribution and storage network>can be transported in cylinders almost any adult can handle>does not need to be stored (in fuel cell form) in a cryogenic (lng) or extremely high pressure (cng) state>runs vehicles just fine as proven in Australia>isn't widely used as a gasoline alternative, especially in cities, for...reasonsPropane fueled plugable hybrids make perfect sense for commuters/city dwellers and I don't understand why nobody has done this.
>>64951470true, he could have definitely won the environmentalist voting block with that one.
>>64951686https://www.ebay.com/itm/388337879716?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item&srsltid=AfmBOorGd4dtc_nayUySxdimfFCgDNCduGmpAryPktrrnHwGfmgMhoN1H0chttps://www.ebay.com/itm/388320618572?_skw=French+passport+pretend&itmmeta=01KKAH0RVA14VJTEDNSR529VPW&hash=item5a69b6684c:g:L5UAAOSwx-FmTj7G&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA8GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xCGycgzbR8Pt1b13aBr1G2xI5alZi36%2BZllSw9RBNcShDSalt3XHyBz1rnKlThKGw27sWsz%2BMtND%2FD0ZtPqkbanADf2UB98JaVCt%2BEMwGQ2eXsD%2FJ1lt4GIg5gKwnLQvaS1qn8ueFR%2FrG0q3B19F3TC2%2BPwFqo2qn2ZcujASV1iWbbv0%2BDRatwjVsfdC2q7nyCRVJEs3hX6RkHC2GePIGkGRpbgOOpw2BVoZN3zbSABDlf%2BXpJe1ZygUi8%2F%2BseYUYSgpiGYI2hn3L9RUexn7oKcphOHmnIjDvCd8jZN%2Fs6GHw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-CNg9GaZwNice try Ahmed
>>64951674>Personally i enjoy watching shit blown up, but i think the value of further reducing iran’s relevance by taking out their long range strike capacity when they were already suffering from economic meltdown and unrest doesn’t outweigh the shitstorm it’s causing to the global economy.pretty much my thinkingmy fundamental concern is that 1. you can't bomb your way to regime change and 2. you can't bomb your way into opening the strait. The strait will remain closed until either1. Trump and Israel abandon the war with concessions to Iran (Iran has no reason to stop firing missiles at the US otherwise)2. A ground invasion is undertaken to secure the strait (politically catastrophic for trump)3. A ground invasion is undertaken to remove the regime entirely (even worse for trump)4. Trump or israel try some other form of escalation against Iran (can't really think of much other than nukes if it isn't gonna be a ground invasion) to force the strait open 5. The war continues as is with the US bombing loads of Iranian military installations but the strait remaining open, which will cause catastrophic effects by the end of the 4th week since the war started on an already fragile global economy (effects which will disproportionately affect Europe and the US' allies in southeast Asianone of these are desirable outcomes, the first option is nominally the 'easiest' but trump cucking to Iran seems almost unthinkable to me, it's one thing for him to leave, but for him to make concessions would be unimaginable (keeping in mind the Israelis wouldn't let him do that either anyway...)
>>64951661idk, taking down Iran seems like a pretty important purely strategic and real politick move if nothing else. having a literal theocratic apocolypse cult with secret police and paramilitaries everywhere with a 100 million population that is actively antagonist towards you and militant in the prime location to fuck with a major path of global trade SEEMS like a pretty big deal to get rid of.I could care less about nukes, but Iran's size, political nature, and location seems like a powderkeg that NEEDS to be addressed sooner or later.
>>64951712It may seem that way at times but it's literally not our problem if we ignore it
>>64951696look man if me being a shill is that unfalsifiable to you that you believe I've gone and purchased fake expired passports just so I can say that the US is making a strategic mistake with regards to Iran then you've got bigger issues to deal with. deal with my points on their own terms if you won't believe they're genuine, but I assure you they are.
>>64951709*but the strait remaining closedmy bad
>>64951661I'm not in favor of starting it but it's too late to navel gaze now. The die is cast. Bomb all production facilities, all chemical industry and get them to give up the refined uranium then fuck off. If they won't do the latter it's irrecoverable because that's the minimum to "recover" from having this war without decreasing security.
If you want to convince anyone you're actually defeating Iran, post videos of destroyed subs and speedboats. No one cares about this sideshow.
>>64951718>hello I am real I can post my totally real things but not actually prove it. Also look at the back of my hand which is the whitest part of my brown skin
>>64951661Gee, I sure haven't heard these talking points before.
>>64951724yes friend, the entirety of the us navy bows to us
>>64951727Almost makes you nostalgic, don't it?
>>64951724>speedboatslmao we don't need to waste ammo on that shit
>>64951717what even is isreal-Irans beef? Iranians arent even Arab and they arent even close, when did they start missle slinging each other? Seems like it should be a largely "I don't care about you" relationship both ways.
>>64951752You mean besides Iran funding and arming Hamas and Hezbollah and threatening to nuke Israel for the last twenty years? It's not particularly an Iran-Israel beef so much as it's an Iran-middle east beef since they're also funding and arming the Houthis, Shia militias in Iraq, and dissidents in the Gulf states.
>>64951762>You mean besides Iran funding and arming Hamas and Hezbollah and threatening to nuke Israel for the last twenty years?yes, but why? was there a signifigant population of shia in the Israel region?
>>64951752In 1979 Iran cut off diplomatic relations with Israel and began to celebrate Jerusalem day, celebrating the future day they would liberate Jerusalem. Mind you Israel had captured Jerusalem 12 years earlier so they were a bit late to the game. But anyway, before that they got along reasonably well and at first Israel thought it was just posturing, even smuggling Iran weapons during their war with Iraq. But they began to suspect it was more the words with repeated proxy conflicts. So basically, Israel's 1967 capture of Jerusalem pissed off Shia mullahs in Iran. I think that is really the genesis of it but it took until the revolution until they could make that a policy objection instead of a pulpit sermon.
>>64951689The major upswings for passenger cars is that it's higher octane (~110) and doesn't require a fuel pump which reduces weight and complexity. I forget why Australia dumped LNG cars though because according to a very trusted source (Garbage Time) propane cars are a rarity now down under
>>64951770>yes, but why?I think their strategy was to keep everyone in the region busy fighting some insurgency and not focused on Iran itself. Hence all the militias, aimed at Israel and otherwise.
>>64951752Iran is a violently extremist islamic theocracy that is vehemently opposed to Israel because they took over what used to be Palestine. One of their sworn goals is the destruction of Israel as a state. For the past 40 years they've been stirring up shit, funding terrorist groups, and directly attacking Israel. They are open about how if they had nuclear weapons they would use them on Israel, consequences be damned. Iran also happens to be a sect of islam that hates the other big sect and believes that not only are they correct, it's their god given right to rule over the entirety of the islamic world (but especially the ME).Israel, for all it's many, many failings and problems, would probably be happy to let Iran do whatever it wants as long as "Destroy Israel and kill as many Israelis as possible" wasn't on that list.
>>64951778>>64951789so its kind of like a promised regime talking point thing? Like I totally get Arabs hating Isreal on principle of arabs being displaced as well as being from the same religious branch that dominated the eastern mediteranean, but Persia is both ethnically separated and religiously (somewhat) separated.
>>64951745If you want that strait open, yes you do. It's not the US Navy that Iran has to defeat, it's 1 or 2 cargo tankers
>>64951667He’s down $80k (it’s not a real trade or even real money idk why people give a fuck)
>>64951808I can't understand politics. It might be posturing or a talking point. But it seems like a way of keeping up their Islamic revolutionary credentials through proxy attacks on the zionist state. And if the US wasn't involved and if we didn't give Israel weapons for free I'd be totally on board with Israel bombing Iran whenever they wanted. But they're leeching off us and pulling us into wars we needn't really be involved in. They could and should have handled this on their own.
>>64950273>I see we moved from "Lots of Americans will die" to "Americans will grumble avout gas prices"The ground war has not started yet. And the gas prices have only begun to rise. You need to wait 2.5 weeks more for the last tankers that left the Gulf fully loaded before the war to reach Rotterdam. The oil price is still low because of Japan and America releasing from their oil reserves, and people still thinking that this war will be over soon, because the last war only lasted 12 days, and we are only 10 days into this.
>>64951828>The ground war has not started yet.What part of death from above do you brownies not comprehend?
>>64951368>On one hand the US lies a lot and this admin might just be that sloppy; on the other hand Iran lies A LOT and it sure is convenient for Iranian PR sympathy that this missile of all things hit a girls school.The first missile was caught on a security cam, it was very obviously a Tomahawk. That school had a lot of IRGC officer's children, the idea was to catch the parents in a double tap strike when they rushed over to the school to check on their kids.
>>64951832We are still in the second week, and the kurds and Azerbaijanis are already gearing for invasion. Iran is going to turn into like 10 different states
>>64951855Not going to happenTrumps bombing their shit then fucking off because he thinks the war is over so it's overYou'll have to do the rest Israel
>>64951857>h-he said war is over!He litterally said war will continue but Iran is operationally BTFO. If anything that shows that something else is coming, and his conversations with kurds with no definitive answer shows that.
>>64951855No one will invade Iran except the amerigolems, every other country has no interest in this
>>64951855I think this will only happen if the current regime doesn’t play ball. No need to carve up the country an implode it in a civil war if they want to behave. But that being said, it’s going to happen if the IRGC decides to be stupid
>>64951696Falseflagging contrarian post.
>>64950348>has never eaten fresh nutria grilled over old tires soaked in dieselSad!
>>64951857Nah, Trump wants someone in power who will suck him off (which is a good thing). I have no doubt he’ll let the Israelis free with whatever insurgency plan they have if the current regime doesn’t back down.
>>64951872You mean like when they randomly attacked their neighbors turning them all against Iran, including Azerbaijan who has already said that there are Azerbaijanis who are needing liberation? Yes Iran would and has done something stupid. You seem to have forgotten exactly what has happened in this conflict>>64951870Look just because you're too brown to understand doesn't mean your fantasy exists
>>64951726Pretending to be retarded for negative attention is bad for your soul anon, stop doing it.
>>64951885>>64951878Samefagging this hard because he was called out
>>64951870>No one will invade Iran except the amerigolems, every other country has no interest in thisOnce the oil shock hits the euros will be whipped into going in with America while also having to supply Ukraine. America can withhold oil and lng exports to Europe if the euros do not accept American directives.
>>64951896>basedteen doesn’t understand what samefagging isLelPretending to be a retard for attention is bad for your soul, anon. The crater of missing parental attention is only temporarily filled in your soul when you do so.
>>64951883Azeris have no chance against Iran without US/Israel airpower actively taking out Iranian troop concentrations even after all the bombing, so no you stupid faggot, the Azeris aren’t going to do shit until the Israelis give them the green light, which won’t happen until the Americans give the Israelis the green light. Stupid fag.
>>64951897Cant Drumpf restrict 12 years old from posting online?
>>64951808I know the overthrow of the Iranian government in the 50s really soured the perception of the west to a large chunk of the population. I think it gave the mullahs something to harp on (the big bad west), and Israel rapidly became a symbol to point that hate at.
>>64951253i can't believe they actually think this.
>>64951661>Why is every thread on this board so aggressively in favour of the war suddenly?Its called narrative control. Mostly done by LLM chatbots, but their operators also post. You are not compliant with the official narrative, so you will get shitted on, you ivory tower marxist.
>>64951986>Claims Iran will use thousands of commercially available speed boats>Iran has yet to use these boats because they are unwilling, incapable, and out of range of the US Navy assetsUnironic brownoids shills and contrarianists need to be hanged
>>64951661>>64952015>Its called narrative control>kay HATES war and Drumpf and Kegsbreath, and knows that without tannies and DEI our military is doomed to defeat at the heroic #resistance. Good thing us REAL kay users are here to correct the record!Convincing stuff.
>>64952015It’s funny because I get called a shill/oblastposter for criticising Trump’s invasion of Iran, but then the country which is going to benefit the most from this whole fiasco (after Israel) will actually be Russia. I’d also add I find it highly suspicious that I’ve now seen multiple instances of people pointing out the Epstein connection getting called goatfuckers/seething thirdies, which is 199% not an organic thing
>>64950199Coincidence?
>>64949785I actually thought those ships were pretty cool.
>>64951118Probably the only more disruptive Islamic country is fucking Saudi Arabia. You have to literally be willingly retarded to think Iran hasn't been one of the biggest sources of instability in the region for decades. The open, self-admitted cornerstone of their continued survival was the threat that all of their terrorist proxy groups would unleash death and chaos if they were to get directly attacked.
>>64951118iran's strategy for the last 30+ years has been>lol we will just fund whatever crazy nutjob group, paramilitary or terror cell we can. even if its in a country where we pretend to care about the government>lol lets send a bunch of armed dudes to fuck up the haij and just shoot as many pilgrims as we can>we hate the great satan! btw america/israel wanna do some trades? we need TOWs and F4 parts! lol>hey hamas just cut the fence and start taking captives bro, its gonna work out in the end. just trust us bro
>>64951482The fact that the U.S. is STILL sinking Iran's surface fleet ten days into the war does not reflect well on their ability to hunt down anything.
>>64952286the clip was dated 7 (seven) days ago
>>64950323The third world has been thoroughly buckchecked and confirmed 100% sugarplum this week.
This is clearly a presidential revenge tour and I am thoroughly enjoying it.
>>64950199Does this thing actually exist or is it just a James Bond toy?
>>64952314zanj mfs in tears absolutely lightened
>>64952398It was based on the Lockheed Martin/DARPA technology demonstrator ship Sea Shadow, but Sea Shadow was much smaller than the James Bond ship.
>>64949785There were 40 captured Delta Force members on that ship btw
>>64952428oh no... not the D-forcewe needed them to rescue our hostages
>>64952414>shill so obvious he fucking glows blatantly trying to sell a narrative>WOWEE, can you believe those shills coming here and trying to sell a narrative?Fuuuuuuuck offfff.
>>64952286The fact that the US is currently using JDAMs does not reflect well on Iran's ability to stop the US from abusing it like a rubber fuck doll. That's for blowing up mud huts and dirt farmers, not actual combat against a competent adversary.
>>64952428And 100 Ukrainian POWs
>>64952428blumpf blew up 40 delta force members misgendering innocent iranian naval officersand THAT'S terrible(?)
>>64952478oh they can't even play the tranny card here because iran loves them as a loophole for faggots i forgot about that kek
>>64951661You lost
Its like watching the British Empire wipe out Zulus but instead of spears they're chucking BRICSkin trash missiles.Uh oh the tribals are doing their little war dance beeee careful.LMAO>oh noes the bad goys on the /weapons/ board appreciate raw displays of power theses Drumphies
>>64951368>it sure is convenient for Iranian PR sympathy that this missile of all things hit a girls school.There's nothing convenient about it. That school was either on or right next to a major IGRC base. I don't like to give Americans the benefit of the doubt, but on this occasion I wonder how many other schools there are that are either sited on or right next to bases? I bet there's loads. Maybe Americans were sloppy, but I wonder if there was also a hand on the scales, so to speak.
>>64952622>theses DrumphiesYou ruined it and tipped your hand there, /pol/nigger. It's clear that you don't actually give a shit about the competence of the strikes or the technology involved, you're here to protect Trump.
>>64952872WhatIsreal killed the AyatollahWith US helpTheir airforce and navy were destroyed in a week.Objectively, and no amount of footnstamping and bitching will change this, Isreal won.The jew won.
>>64952866Yeah yeah, the perfidious Ruskie must be behind the pro-war group on /k/ enjoying war with Iran... truly. It's all a bunch of MAGA Russian bots around here, lemme tell you.
>>64952879Holy shit you must be retarded or ESL. The point is that Americans and MAGA have become just like vatniks, they sound like them and act like them, not that Russians are controlling every poster on /k/. This is like that meme about leftists making discourse impossible by intentionally misunderstanding everything. You did the meme.
>Russians international asset destruction #2 in a monthThose stairs broIt just keeps happening, effortlessly
>>64952905Trump just unsanctioned American oil and sent the price to the moon. I think Russia would trade that over a useless ally they've sucked dry any day of the week.Which is probably what actually happened.
>>64952908>American oilI obviously meant Russian oil
>>64952910I'm not sure you did, traitor
>>64952908Oil has always been expensive, my entire adult life.Don't even care
>>64952913you dont understand it's back up the price it was in 2023 that was an awful time and deflation has made it worse
>>64952918>oh noes Iran is going to hold up all of that Chinese and Indian oilKekekMarching morons
>>64952898So you weren't talking about this board when you were responding directly to someone asking about this board? Maybe people misunderstand you so much because you're a schizo.
>>64952898>The point is that Americans and MAGA have become just like vatniksIran has spent nearly 50 years doing everything in its power to earn this long-overdue ass beating, wheras Ukraine merely had the misfortune of existing next to Russia. Your point is retarded, and you yourself are also retarded, as well as gay and foreign.
>>64952924>>64952937>No don't call us vatniks>Acts just like vatniksThis is like Russians getting annoyed at being called orcs, so they start torturing and murdering Ukrainian POWs
>>64951118Yeah, because Iran is THE disruptive regiona power
>>64952981I think that's going too far. Saudi Arabia randomly killed a journalist (to negative benefit) and Israel assassinated people in other countries outside of the conflict zone.They gotta get some disruption points for that.
>>64951423>I don't buy into the idea that even the Iranians are so cartoonishly evil as to bomb their own school. (on purpose, anyway)Did you forget who are they friends with?
>>64951673>my fucking british and french passports if you want me to prove I'm a westernerYou're not helping yourself.
>>64952988>Saudi Arabia randomly killed a journalistRandomly? He'd shitpost how their chief durka-durka le bad.
>>64951118>hezbollah>houthis>hamas>the entire shitshow in syriaThey might be the problem
So their current talking points, apart from "me John al-Johnson of Michigan wilayat gas prices are high I can't cook my meat Hank-style" are: This war only benefits Israel This war actually benefits russia (lolwhat)Iran can fire missiles left and right as long as they want toThe US doesn't have any bombs leftEveryone who supports bombing turdskins is on the same level as a vatnik ziggerThe irgc speedboat flotilia will surely close the strait for good once al-staineri gets back from a hiking trip in Iranian mountainsThe Orange Man will chicken out in two weeksFeel free to add more talking points.
>>64953042You forgot oilThough that is usually an augmentation of any of the previous talking points>"We're" destroying global trade for a doomed war that only benefits Israel!!
>>64953023You're right, I should say a different word. Without worrying that it would cause an incident to do so in another country.
>>64953042>The US doesn't have any bombs leftno one serious says this>The irgc speedboat flotilia will surely close the strait for goodlast official statement i heard from Iran is that they're not closing the strait. According to their foreign minister. The point of this war was to create regime change. And for that to happen you need boots on the ground. The boots were supposed to be protesters, but Iran suppressed those real fast. No boots, no regime change.
>>64953143Technically they've killed him on Saudi soil since they had lured him into their embassy/consulate and then dismembered him and iirc shipped him to SA via diplomatic plane.
>>64952988>>64953023>>64953143>>64953163"murdered"the word you are searching for is "murdered". Or alternatively: "butchered" like an animal
>>64953159It's not happening. I know you really want it but he will walk away. He's phenomenal at walking away. One of the best. People love to see him go.
>>64953171>It's not happening.that's my point>I know you really want iti don't want itI want Israel destroyed and the middle east to fight their own wars until it stabilizes and becomes wealthy. That way the browns in the west will finally have a reason to return to their ancestral lands. And then everyone lives happy ever after.
>>64953180Two more weeks and russian eggs will again be measured in dirty green papers, and then, everyone will understand everything.
>>64950073>names himself after a stupid fairy known for stupidity>is retardedMakes sense.>>64950330Chinese electronics, please understand.
>>64950273Gas prices are THE biggest weakness of the American people. Governments routinely rise and fall based on whether Joe Hick can fill up his truck for twenty dollars or twenty-one. Honestly I don't think they know just how good they have it, being the largest fuel producer in the world and all.
>>64953403>Governments routinely rise and fall based on whether Joe Hick can fill up his truck for twenty dollars or twenty-one.It's hard to believe but apparently it's true.
>>64953042>This war only benefits IsraelThis is true>This war actually benefits russia (lolwhat)This is true in the short term until the strait is opened again.>The Orange Man will chicken out in two weeksThe orange man will claim mission accomplished without finished the job, but only if Israel lets him.
>>64953625> This is true in the short term until the strait is opened again.If the oil sanctions are removed, they won’t be re-applied, Trump hates them, he just didn’t have an excuse to tell Mike Johnson to do anything.
>>64953403>>64953408Its not. >>64953625Yeah bud, this is all about Israel and has nothing to do with ~40 years of proxy-war
>>64953773I don't know how true that is but a lot of Americans seem to talk about their politics like they're sport teams.t yuropoor
>>64953820We dont. Its a very small (but vocal) group of people on the internet. Most people dont really care until its election time, then they will watch the news and debates and make up their mind, vote, and then go back to worrying about their daily lives.
>>64952908>we never needed IranYou are here
>>64950763>idk the footage is pretty cool i thought that flaming river of sewage in tehran was awesome lookingThe what?
>>64949785According to CENTCOM commanders recent brief, they have now all been martyred and are having a reunion at the bottom of the Gulf. Aso, strategic bombers hit a ballistic missile assembly facility, which might explain this huge explosion in the city of Qom.
>>64952898>The point is that Americans and MAGA have become just like vatniksI don't see any MAGA would have any balls while their dick is still being locked in a chastity cage, having any courage to stand up and kill Soros yet. The Iran talks has been existed since 1979 and every single up-running president threaten to hurt Iran one way or another but always ended at American boots on the ground. So far, only 7 Americans died while stationing at other nations and that's already impressive
>>64951828America doesn't import oil from Iran tho so it shouldn't matter
>>64957220ESL-kun...
>>64952898>Reverse cargo cult thirdie mindset again
>>64951661I just hate the middle east and all that it spawns so seeing it get asploded brings me joy wether it be the small hat tribes or the towel hat tribe
>>64949785How do they have any boats still floating? But also what was the idea behind building a fleet of random assorted crap? Its very expensive and proved absolutely useless as expected.
>>64957224Don’t worry. Agent Kraznov has loosened sanctions on Russia, so there’ll be plenty of oil flowing to our enemies from there before long.
>Iranian's popular government still in power. The son of the leader you assassinated has been elected leader. The straits are still closed, ships are being sunk off the coasts of Oman and Yemen somehow. The Arab puppet states are bucking and refusing to help, even European allies are refusing to help. The price of oil still climbing while the minefields grow denser.>Have fun spending another 20+ years in the Millenial GI's natural habitat, I guess.
>>64957500What the fuck did Iran mean by this. This is almost as bizarre as that sulimani bomb memorial
>>64949837polluters btfo
>>64957500Man I can't think of a single more pathetic thing a person can be at this point then being a Iranian supporting watching them get ass raped day in and day out.
>>64951673>I'll post my fucking british and french passports if you want me to prove I'm a westerner.Those don't prove anything anymore
>>64951661>Why is every thread on this board so aggressively in favour of the war suddenly?I don't even give that much of a shit, I just hate /pol/ for turning most of 4chan into reddit and twitter screenshots and third worlders who can barely string a sentence together in their native language, much less English, and I want to see them eat shit.
>>64953786>this is all about Israel and has nothing to do with ~40 years of proxy-warLiterally the same thing.
>>64958154At this point Im convinced /pol/ was a mossad op to get brown subhumans to shit up White western spaces. It was only ever comfy pre 2016/during Ferguson when it was majority White.
>>64951661Paid agents.The fish kill alone almost justifies the whole endeavor, but if I was the chinks I would try to take Taiwan right now.
>>64958407They can't take Taiwan right now, Xi is busy purging the ranks of the PLA and their primary supply of oil is under attack.
>>64951661Iranians have tried to kill me, personally, at least twice. Once with a suicide aircraft in the Straights, once with a suicide bomber in Bahrain. Possibly three times, but the Singaporeans summarily executed the survivor of that particular terror attack on the pier before he could be captured and interrogated. They've bankrolled and trained people that have killed multiple friends of mine including one of my boot camp buddies. I worked with and trained people they're bombing right now in the wider Middle East. And I'm Navy, not a surface grunt. This board is full of vets who've had to deal with even more of their shit, for years on years. The State department has been telling every branch of the military that we can't retaliate -- even in the face of open acts of war -- because it will fuck up the current round of negotiations. Which the Iranians have literally never taken seriously. For decades. So.Fuck 'em. They deserve this. You can't play "I'm declaring war on you, I'll totally fuck you up" like clockwork every 2-3 years and then cry foul when someone finally answers "yeah, okay, let's go. Bitch." Especially after getting pimp-slapped and told to back the fuck off less than six months ago.
>>64959256>aircraft in the StraightsLearn to spell straits.
>>64951808It's just the Muslim Arab stronk mindset cannot handle being mogged militarily, politically, and economically by Jews. The whole Persian thing is just to elevate themselves above other Arab countries. Everyone is just trying to be the king of the arabs and they don't even realize fuedalism ended over a hundred years ago.
>>64951661>muh straitIs a bluff.
>>64959256>Iranians have tried to kill me, personally, at least twiceBased Iranians.
>>64959256You should explain this to Tucker and Candace
>>64952898Post gun.
>>64957574
>>64949785Man what a glorious fireballWe can all only hope to make such a sexy fireball when our time comes
>A fire in the main laundry area of the US Navy’s newest and largest aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R Ford, has left two sailors injured, the Navy’s 5th Fleet said in a statement Thursday.Uh oh...
>>64963726>b-but the laundry caught fire on the ford!yeah it do be like that, hasn't slowed the bombings lol
>>64959256This. Iranians have been our enemy for so long that even my boomer father was fighting them 50 years ago during the hostage crisis shit. They bombed our soldiers in Lebanon. These faggots have been fighting us for longer than fucking Al Qaeda. The only other enemy more ancient are Ivans. That’s why it infuriates me when I see these TikTok normie faggots and brown /pol/tard commies act like this is some kind of unprovoked war being led by Israel or some shit. Fucking Saddam and the Taliban were more innocent than these killers.For decades pussies have been kicking this shit down the road, attacking useless peripheral places like Iraq or Afghanistan. Now we’re finally attacking this fucking beast at its heart and god willing this goatfucking rapist regime they claim is somehow acting in the name of God is finally brought down and Iran can be free.
>>64950647lmao, i wonder how well this post aged
>>64963737>hasn't slowed the bombings lolfor, uh, either side, it appears
>>64963773isnt fighting iran kind of a 'useless peripheral' for fighting russia and china though? i just feel like by your logic we should just be nuking beijing and moscow and calling it a dayand, iran wouldnt give a fuck about the united states if we hadnt assassinated their leader and if we hadnt built israel
>>64964628Pretty good actually, gas is pretty much where it was last week
>>64964631You could argue that, but it would be objectively wrong since we have data showing iran is slowing both drone and missile launches.
>>64964674pol would tell you that’s because they’re running out of targets to hit…not from getting absolutely wrecked of course
