Post gear, discuss gear.Chinese-American Edition.Old: >>64917311
/gq/ Infographic Emporium:https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF>Last time on /gq/, Frenchanon went on a quest to find plates. A2Grip forgot the soft armor, and I bought some cheapass 2L canteens off aliexpress and shrunk my balls UNEQUALLY.>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.161CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = NEEDS SOFT ARMOR, DND = do not drop, ** = military.>Special Rifle Threat (M855A1, no M80 <44mm BFD):Budget: Hesco T212 or L211Mid-Range: Hesco M210High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI**, or Tencate CR-6450SA.>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):Budget: Expired Hesco 3611C, surp SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DNDElite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):Budget: Used Protech 2120-5Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513High-End: LTC 28780**Elite: VelSys PBZSA** or LTC 28791** or Hesco SC3812Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995) or used Cercom CER-SOPS**^>CONUS Optimal (M855A1 + M80A1):Budget: Highcom 3S9 (SAPI-cut)Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI-cut!)High-End: Used LTC 28595**Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G or Gilliam 1023Budget: Hesco 4403* (bare minimum)Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* (+ Level III) or surp ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J preferable, adds M995 / 3x M2AP vs 1x)High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DND>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)Budget: Protech 2230 (fast M2AP, $300/set used)Budget-Tungsten: Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)Elite: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P) or ECSAPI (M993)
Is SORD (Australia/usa) any good?I’m the guy looking for my first chest rig.
>>64953986SORD is okayVery old gear but not awfulId really look at buying something with pre stitched pouches for your first rig vs buying pouches you have zero preference towards
>>64953986I agree with A2. First setup should be turnkey as possible. Run it, then when you run into limitations you'll know what to look for.
>>64954027>>64954062I think I will take that advice.Any other pre stitched rigs to look out for? The Northern Ireland one is top of the list now. I’ve heard of the South African p83, but I think the mag pouches are geared towards 7.62 unless I’m mistaken.
>>64954070>Pic relP83 is for R4(Galil) mags and M4 mags will sit way too deep in them to be usefulIdk you can jam a bunch of mini payday bars under your mags but people want too much for the P83. Also honestly the side pockets on the P83 suck butt compared to the NI rig. NI rig was very much the bongs drawing from the P83 which drew from the rhodesians which drew from the chicoms which drew from the etc etcThere are a shitload of commercial old prestiched rigs, its just much harder to suggest them due to smaller availability. Anything eagle, lbt, bae, crye or paraclete will do you good but availability and asian airsofter taxes make them less reliability.
>>64954088Trash snipers are old news, the new danger is trash machinegunners with 240 Bravos and hotloaded M2AP. Go birds.
There is no shield discussion around here and it's peculiar.
>>64954087I’m looking at the eagle industries mpcr.It’s a little more expensive, but I’ll gladly pay more for a decent rig.Thoughts?
>>64954197MPCR is pretty good, wouldnt be a bad purchase.
What are some quality, long lasting comfortable boots that don't scream 'i am a sheepdog larper' that I can wear for everyday use/hiking/work and are waterproof, and no hard toe please. No budget, willing to pay so long as it's for quality and not cool logo or hype.
>>64954615Lowa
>>64954615Full grain leather boots in a neutral color with minimal polish and minimal if any cordura elements.>Scarpa Terra GTX>Macv2 in briar/chestnut>Really any boot that heavily incorporates leather rather than nylon and features a single color soulNo Lowa, No Salomons, No Altamas
>>64954615these just workbeen using them for years from snow to hard rain, never get wet or anything
>>64954718retard alert!
This is your daily reminder that RMA sucks. Also finally got a response back from Safariland about the 2240.>"Unfortunately, the 2240 is discontinued and no longer available."Not a typo confirmed, there is a 2240 and they cannot volunteer ANY info about it.
>>64954615Oboz Bridgers are nice, I like mine a lot
>>64954212If one had its pouches modified to be Velcro, would that be more or less desirable than the stock plastic buckles?
>>64954615I have Danner hiking boots (not the combat boots). REI sells them.
>>64954701>>64954718>>64954725>>64955418>>64955620Thanks, will check these out.
What do the capefags think of this?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e9AXzUKu9SY
>>64955962>commando storeNot even once.
>>64953843>A2GRIP SPENDS $1,000 ON PANTSSo queer.
>>64954718Rationale behind no lowa? They’ve survived extensive hiking in the Kazahkstan and are going to Mongolia. They’re a medium support. I’d prefer lighter leather like my old pair, but if you’re carrying any sort of bag, you learn to appreciate.
>>64954182>no shield discussion around here and it's peculiarI tried.
Reebok steel toe, conductive soles make my feet hurt ALL DAY.
Genuine question. Is it cringe to wear a vest to an indoor range ? I feel like I would never get to wear one otherwise. Thoughts?
>>64956216Steel toe boots of any kind are retarded. If anything sufficiently heavy gets dropped on your foot the steel will just warp and crush your toes and then remain crushing your toes once the heavy object is lifted.>run over by forklifttoes splattered and fire department has to cut your boots off you with a power saw>pallet dropped on foottoes splattered and same shitCompare that to simple hardened toes>run over by forklifttoes crushed and toe reshapes back to normal and no one even has to cut your boots off>drop hammer on toetoes protected
>>64956161>commando
>>64953843What does the baby fucker have to do with that?
Rent free
>>64956259steel toe boots are for things heavier than 5lbs but lighter than 2500lbs or equivalent drop forces, which is plenty of shit big enough to break your toe without crushing a steel capbut I also agree that I hate them and only wear them when work requires it
>>64956212shield gets in the way of the riflefind one that will strap to my elbow and protect my forearm and bicep when holding a rifle up
>>64955497Probably moreI dont really care for fastex pouchesIdk if id pay more since its fairly simple>>64956209Fantastic boots but OPs request was to not look like a sheepdog larper. Lowa do dat real quick.>>64956204You must be new here, A2 deadbird posting been a standard for a long time
>>64957349>Aesthetics Ahh missed that part, Caesar. I will bring you back a jar of fermented horse milk.
FrenchAnon here, continuing my quest for good European ballistic plates. I recently came across another French brand : Phygiatech.I reached out to them asking for ballistic test data or any form of certification. They sent me a VPAM 9 certification report, which is actually the first time a European manufacturer has provided me with a full official certification report rather than just internal ballistic test results or marketing claims.That said, I don’t have the detailed ballistic test results that are referenced in the certification’s appendix. Still, the certification itself implies that the plates successfully met the VPAM 9 requirements.They cost €300 (~350$) for 2.7kg (4,4lbs) in SiC.Given the price and weight, do you think this might be the best overall compromise? Or would the LORICA plates I shared in the previous thread be a better option?
>>649587542.7kg is six pounds, anon.Aside from that, those plates seem okay. VPAM-9 is way less than Level IV. It's even less than B-32 API. But the price is very low, all things considered. . .
>>64957349And you have been queer for a long time. It's just gotten worse. I was gaven you credit when everyone else was beating the wave to shit on you. Now, it's just common place.
>>64959396>gaven
>>64959152I checked the pic related and their website to confirm, this plate is actually VPAM-9 AND NIJ Level IV, but only certified to the former.The plates seem to ape the original Hesco 4600 on specs and composition. Silicon Carbide strike face backed with UHMWPE. I am not seeing a drop test and the plate's cheap for Silicon Carbide, leading me to the conclusion this is a Longfri or Longfri-esque Chinese plate with no drop foam, akin to the Shellback 4SiCMH.>VPAM-9 is way less than Level IVThey're sidegrades. VPAM-9 is three hits of 7.62x51mm P80 AP, which is comparable to M61 (basically diet 7.62x51 M2AP, a cut below B-32 API), at 3.4" shot spacing. NIJ Level IV is exactly one .30-06 M2AP and no more. A VPAM-9 plate can fail Level IV, a Level IV can fail VPAM-9 by not having enough multi-hit.>>64958754We're slowly getting enough examples to make a french plate infographic, which I'm liking the idea of since euroanons (as I'm sure you know) are strapped for options.I'm not a huge fan of this plate given it apparently has no drop protection. However, that PM-9 cert is strong and P80 is the strongest threat you can reasonably encounter in Europe. All threats above P80, aside from B-32 API. which you'll only encounter in select areas, are exotic and relatively rare tungsten core business. AP8 (PM-11) / Swiss P AP (PM-12), not even counting the really heavy duty shit like AP 11LR, DM151, .300 DM131, 7N37, or the .338 APs a lot of SOF are picking up. No option presented thus far except the Adept Colossus, which can in fact be sold to Europe, have a good shot at those. Have you looked at the Colossus? It's 0.7lb or so heavier than this plate and is about VPAM PM-12, so it'll cover you against M993 AKA AP8 and 7.62x51 Swiss P AP. $1,280 a set here in the States so it's majorly upmarket.
>64959496Self correction, 3.4 is the annex number and not shot spacing for VPAM. The actual VPAM spacing is 100mm in a triangle like pic related. Other important notes are that the shots must be 75mm from a corner and 30mm from the edge.NIJ for reference is 51mm (2") between shots, 2" from the edge. If it is a pistol rating like IIIA, then spacing between hits is 2" for the smaller round and 3" for the larger round (.44 mag). If NIJ Level IV is specified by the manufacturer as multi-hit (which barely anyone does) then each .30-06 M2AP must be stopped with 51mm spacing between each hit. This is extremely difficult absent a heavy ceramic tile or pellet array so nobody does this. You don't get an award or a special mark on the NIJ CPL, it just cuts down the required number of samples for NIJ cert (36 for 1 hit per plate, up to 6 for 6 hits per plate). I see VPAM has the same provision where you can spec more than three hits to cut down on sample numbers.
>>64959488Givern? Givenst. Happy now?
>>64959535No.
>>64959542You shouldn't be. I like you better seething over minutiæs.
>>64959563A man with alibaba platinum status never seethes. He copes.
>>64957187I think we'll be seeing the return of the gunshield sooner or later. Think about it. A 6x8 Hesco 3801 to the shooter's left of the gun would weigh less than a pound and cover a relative lot of body against RF1 threats if it's "presented" while you're aiming.
>>64959610What about just putting a 6x8 on your arm like a buckler?I could actually see that being a thing if you could secure it well enough
>>64953843These last couple have been the worst /gq/ threads I've seen in 14 years.
>>64918051Thanks for the reply anon. Did end up snagging a meme cloak, apparently it's been just over two years since my last Ali order so Ali slashed the price even more than the 30% off it's currently at. Still fucking $70 with shipping and taxes, but I'll also use it to study how to stitch up my own cloaks out of whatever I want.
>>64954615Hoffman Explorer. I wear the comp toe version daily.
>>64960473Yeah that's based.>>64960211I rigged up some cheap IIIA panels that way. It's a fine idea but might get annoying with a plate. All depends on the weight.
>>64960370>worse than threads where nobody posts and it diesGuess anon can't handle the cloak.
Hot take: All-polyethylene plates are based if you understand their limitations and know M855 is either not an issue or it'll be coming out of an ARP. They literally weigh a quarter of what equivalent steel plates do.Cold take: Steel is still cringe.Spicy takes:1. Trauma pads are actually useful.2. Ceramics do have durability concerns if handled roughly. Fudds were kinda right.3. Shot spacing is as important as raw multi hit.
>>64959542>>64959575>>64960473>>64960817>>64960829I've got one coming through the mail. Never wore a cloak before, so I'm not sure when the right time to wear it would be. I guess it'll be trial and error then.
>>64961583The Aliexpress rizz cloak or another one?A couple pointers with the rizz cloak so far if anyone wants one:1. All straps (slings, backpacks) need to be lengthened to compensate for the cloak.2. It's meant to tie into certain platecarriers with laser cut holes in the shoulders. You can jury rig it to any PC however if you're mildly creative.3. The buttons on the collar will NOT hold the fur if you're diving around. Use the straps on the cloak to tie the collar down.
>>64961640Yeah the rizz cloak. I would assume you would only wear it when you're going innawoods, and not so much for casual wear. I would give off mall-ninja vibes if you wear it casually IMO, but it might work if you wear it with a dark suit like >>64959575 desu.
>>64962037Put on your cloak, tactical pimp cane, and multicam black wizard hat and nobody will bat an eye. Goondalf the Black gonna roll up in a Cadillac DTS. All rizz, no razz.If they do have a problem, keep a big guy next to you who will simply announce your presence as>DEMETRIAN ANONUS>MASTER OF THE TRASH>CAPTAIN OF THE SECOND COMPANY>WARDEN OF ULTRAMALL
I have a dream. That one day all our threads won't be poorcoded sloppa. That we will have an income. That we won't be buying chinese shit.I have a dream that one day every man woman and child will have a jpc 2.0 and they will be happy.That there will be peace.That there will be quiet.And that the internet in India gets shut off.
>>64954182Because they're pointless outside of police officers being scared to approach Ty'rone they just shot 37 times. >>64955002You should fight people on plebbit with the RMA and come back and post results. >>64962686I'll accept the last thing. I want gear general to be more gear and less armor general. But everyone just belittles that you if your not running guchi. Speaking of belittling, roast me anons. I got the ribbed for your pleasure version. Figure I'll abuse it on an upcoming hog hunt. Every year I give myself a goal, this year it's cap a hog at night with a pistol.
>>64962766>You should fight people on plebbit with the RMA and come back and post results.>with the RMA comradeReddit ruined the internet, I'm not entertaining that.>Shields>UselessThey cover more than a plate, are faster to put on than a PC, and negate behind armor blunt trauma entirely against rated threats. Considering you can't buy worn armor in NY they're certainly worth consideration, especially if you have family and are worried about overpen.>I want gear general to be more gear and less armor general.NTA, and this is gonna be a spicy ass take, but armor general is what's keeping gear general afloat.
>>64962865> NTA, and this is gonna be a spicy ass take, but armor general is what's keeping gear general afloat.Seriously, yeah. I've been begging people to discuss carriers for multiple threads now. I want a new generalist/jack-of-all-trades carrier and don't know what to buy. Are tubes good?
>>64963815Defense Mechanisms MEPC
>>64963815>>64963891MEPC is good, look also to the APOC or other BALCS-type carriers if you're interested in simultaneously running soft and hard armor. You get a coverage advantage versus pistol threats (do keep in mind IIIA does fuck all against rifle threats) and it also permits you to more readily run ICW plates. If you want jack-of-all-trades, it is very hard to argue against a set of REV.G onward ESAPIs unless you've already got solid plates. Those need soft armor but they'll cover you against ~95% of reasonable CONUS threats. Anything above that and you're basically in a catch-22, because if M993 and superfast M2AP are coming out to play then the situation is extraordinary and ALL the exotic rounds will be in play.>tubesSome people love em, some people hate em. I don't use em.
FYI, for reasons unknown to autism Gilliam Technical Services is now selling the new 3.7lb Model 6001 on ebay.This is an edge-to-edge RF2 plate, so good for 3x 7.62x51mm M80, or 3x 5.56 M193, or 3x 7.62x39 MSC, or 3x 5.56 M855. Note the test report is pretty hinky. There's an N/A on the BFD for M80 shot #3 (IMO, probably went over 44mm) and shot #4 is missing. No M855.I strongly suspect this plate is not good for M855 post 0101.07 conditioning. However, at $269 a plate this makes for a potential poorfag alternative to a $600 Hesco 3810. Do not try it against M855A1, it's gonna bomb. Also the 3810 has double the multi hit at 6x 7.62x51mm M80, but that's a fair concession. Who's getting shot six times with real fuckin' NATO to the torso and nowhere else?
I've got a MEPC in wolf grey (I bought for the memes)since then I've given up on being "the grey-man" and have been switching all my larp gear to tiger stripedefense mechanisms will stitch all their stuff in VTS, but I don't really want to buy another PC and cumberbund when the one I've got is fineI'm going to try dyeing itbeen reading a lot about different formulas and techniques so I'm pretty sure I've got that stuff figured outwhat I can't find is any examples of people dyeing grey stuff to greenalmost all the dye guides are for UCPgrey should be easy to dye right? I mean, it's a primer color for painting after allI just want the mepc and placards to be green, shouldn't look too out of place next to tiger stripe. worried it will come out purple or something and then I'll have to pay for a VTS plate carrier anyway
>>64959496> french platesFantastic coincidence as I was gonna ask you about thoses plates : https://delta-origin.com/collections/protections-balistiques/products/plaque-balistique-nij-4-stand-aloneThe store owner shared with me the results of the tests by email. If you have some questions to ask, I can send him another email.
>>64963815>begging people to discuss carriers>>64963891>Defense Mechanisms MEPCNot even close to discussion, my stoic friend. More of a suggestion than a recommendation, and not a very compelling one. You have convinced no one. But I will dangle this for your consideration, do you have a reason behind this suggestion?
>>64964363>I'm going to try dyeing itGo over to /clg/, they dye and paint fabrics all the time. Your really just in for the cosplay anyway.
>>64964953thanksi do go shooting in the jungle, but unless the chinese invade i'll never be using this gear for it's intended purpose so I 'spose you're right
>>64964707These delta origin plates should really be called Alibaba Origin. They're straight off the boat from China's third division factories. You can tell from the peel-off "six box" back label listing material, size, and level and the cover. This is C-grade business and should bd dodged.I do not see a drop test in the report and it's 7lb too, so not even like the lighter IVs from before.
>>64962766its always sold out at the harbor freight near me..
>>64959496Here’s my compilation.Based on the results and /qg/ feedback, would the final ranking be:LORICA > PHYGIATECH > PGD > PANGOLIN ?Summary:- LORICA: SiC (2.85 kg) — tested to NIJ Level IV (ballistic testing only, 3 shots) / tested to VPAM 10 (ballistic testing only, 1 shot) - 460€ per plate- PHYGIATECH: SiC (2.7 kg) — VPAM 9 (certified) - 295€ per plate- PGD: SiC (3 kg) — tested to NIJ Level IV (ballistic testing only, 1 shot) / tested to VPAM 10 (ballistic testing only, 1 shot) - 460€ per plate- PANGOLIN: Ceramic (2.5 kg) — tested to NIJ Level IV (ballistic testing only, 1 shot) - 350€ per plate
>>64965375I agree with that assessment. The Lorica handles three B-32 API or just one M2AP, so it's got a major overall advantage versus the phygiatech which is only good for 3x 7.62x51mm P80 or 1x .30-06 M2AP.VPAM cert is not as arduous as NIJ, so I wouldn't sweat that as much.I'm actually rather impressed by the Lorica B4C version at only 2.6kg, which is 5.7lb. For what it's worth, the best overall Level IV in Europe is the Tencate (now Integris) CXP-800 SA, which is 5.4lb and simultaneously meets NIJ Level IV, III, and PM-9 requirements. It is only rated for one B-32 API across the plate. This Lorica B4C is good for three at PM-10. For only a 0.3lb increase that's pretty nice actually.Of course, I'd exercise some caution as to whether the Lorica has sufficient drop protection, usually that's how industry newcomers try and steal some performance on paper versus the more established guys like Integris.
>>64962766>I want gear general to be moreMake it so Number 1. Seriously, make the things in your life what you want and need them to be. I will start for you and you follow me....
>>64965608you have been stopped by pimp cloak gang. All will submit before pimp cloak gang.
>>64965608>I will startI bought an LED lantern on Amazon. It extends, has pull out legs and the lamp peteas fold up and down and twist for directability. It also serves to chage battery devices through USB connection. It came with stakes to nail down the legs in dirt. I ordered a nonrelated soft side tool bags that it just barely fits in. But the bag has molle straps, so I will live. The LEDs are adjustable for color temp, from bug light orange to nova white. All 8n all, I like it for basecamp/car camping. It is too heavy for backpacking. Picrel.
>>64965622Make me, hoser.
>>64965630nice. death stranding looking aaaaah
>>64965632>sirrr>me name is ping ping. new job after horosun.>if you buy pimp croak i give u speciar rate>thats right you get speciar rate>i work 996 rong hours>factory moving us to 007 shift so we make pimp croak faster. high demand. number sold on ariexpress is 3.>me sad>you want brow?>i give u factory second pimp croak for $45.99
>>64965630>I bought an LED lantern on Amazonhttps://a.co/d/02hCtQ4DWe effort postin' now, brah!
>>64965643Ping ping never looked so good.
Hi my name is lleondra Is this good carrier my son wants to do airsoft but the refs are using real guns with blanks and im worried if maybe trhey make mistake and load full charge
>>64965665
>>64965630>soft side tool bags that it just barely fits inhttps://a.co/d/00r1i74tI will live.
>>64965665>my son wants to do airsoft but the refs are using real guns with blanksThis looks superior to many products of similar natures!
Add to cloak by mounting neodymium magnets for tactical break-away: https://www.darkknightarmoury.com/product/richard-riveted-steel-chainmail-coif/?
I’ve got a good one. Soft armor vs poly pl8 in carrier. Pros? Cons? Coverage being one, maybe. With how light some of these plates can get, may have some advantages with lighter carriers.
>>64965630>he posted it again
>>64965962The lightest commercially available Level III plate is the Hesco 3801 at 1.9lb for a 10x12. It offers full six hit Level III protection, which is far and away beyond any soft armor.It is also rated for M193 and 7.62x39mm M43, which are two rounds that will easily defeat IIIA like it's not even there. However, this plate stands no chance against M855 unless velocity is very low.If you're up against rifle rounds, get rifle plates. If you're up against non-mild steel core, get ceramic.On the other side, soft armor is thinner, lighter (lightest commercially available IIIA is Hardwire-57 at 0.57lb/ft^2 areal density, so a fraction of the 3801's weight) and can cover more, plus it's flexible. Downside is that, ironically, soft armor is often more expensive. A set of 3801s is about a grand. A set of Hardwire-57 panels is two.I think the goldilocks solution is to run BALCS style setups so you have the strength of plates and the coverage of soft armor, plus the two will work together to enhance protection and reduce behind armor blunt trauma.
>>64966022I'm just so happy, bear with my joy.
>>64965375How the fuck is PGD better than Pangolin? The PGD report was dogshit, and their plate is the heaviest. I'd rank them at the bottom desu
>>64964951kill yourself redditor
>>64966866The Pangolin is 5.5-5.7lb (0.2lb variance between website and report) which is super light for a 10x12 SiC-PE plate, and right in-line with cheapass Battle Steel from Longfri. This means drop protection and sizing are both highly suspect. I'll take a heavier but reliable plate over one that's undersized, underbuilt, and will get fucked up if it's mailed improperly. You can't control the mailman and tap / torque don't check for microfractures which could compromise an underbuilt plate. Let's not repeat the 4SAS4 fiasco.
>>64966900>more of a suggestion than a recommendationTypical.
>>64966958Redditors use a lot of words to say nothing.
>>64965630>>64965644I need this for grilling and smoking meats at night. >>64965227They just dumped a shit load of the gen 3 ribbed for your pleasure versions. Check stock all mine at fully stocked. The ribbed version is ugly as shit but I'm shocked at the quality of this and it fits in my sarafariland 6x series. I wish they didn't texturize the bezzle, I noticed it's rubbing the felt in the holster.
>>64967006Yeah I'm thinking based. Purchase alibaba sentry gun to defend your grill from the ruffians.
>>64966913There's no guarantee PGD isn't even worse, though. Their plate looks like a real stinker, RMA/Highcoom tier.
>>64967147That's where the extra weight comes in. Sure, the BFD is high, but that's a function of the PE backer and not the strike face, crack arrestor, or drop protection. The Adept Colossus pulls like 43.6mm versus Swiss P AP. Reducing BFD is easy (trauma pad, soft armor, or preferably a CAP or best a TAP) but adds weight / thickness. Those Russian BR5+ plates pull under 17mm versus 7N37 with soft armor and CAP.
>>64953843Pagers have a bad reputation after Israel blew up all the Hezbollah pagers but what advantages do pagers have over phones? What do they even do for a military?
>>64967197Majority of pagers are "one way" meaning they receive only. The technology/infrastructure to run a pager network is also a lot more straightforward than the technology to run a cell network and way less individual user burden to use than something like a radio.So if you only need to transmit something like>Durka durka report for assembly for durka durka activitiesThey work really well
>>64967197Integrate them with proper one time pad usage and they're basically uncrackable. Just traceable.Nothing beats a good numbers station though. Disguise it as two old men talking about their colon surgeries on 80 meter.
>>64966987I had time to kill.
>so close to cape greatness
>>64967353Goodwill has been taking the piss lately. No I'm not paying fifty dollars for a sony amp with a blown left channel who the fuck you kidding? I enjoy watching the big booty senoritas rubbing the stickers off with rubbing alcohol and pretending nothing has a price.
>>64967362>I enjoy watching the big booty senoritasBased chubby chaser.
>>64967684When I saw my big booty queen in front of the poor store with the last pair of pepsi crystal 2-liters in the world... my love for her was like getting a pair of LTC 28595s off a crack addict for two hundred dollars...
>>64967769>boom shacklaka>pussy lips that peel open like the tortilla on a chessy gordita from Taco SmellGo big dog!
>>64967776Yeah we were getting there but then she tried to shove me into the back of her 06 suburban with ten kids in the back seat and I was like hell no
>the year is 2030>you are an ice agent in Minneapolis, having just joined in 2028>an ice agent who played too much RDR just boom headshotted a crack addict with a .500S&W from 140 yards. very impressive actually.>uber mega giga riots>you browsed /k/>bought pimp cloak from the chinese like a retard four years ago>now it's your moment>rizz all the latinas >they all stay because you married all of them>you're mormon i forgot to mention that>mormon pimp cloak>establish baja outer heaven using your endless progeny>become the local warlord you were meant to beTake the pill /k/
>>64967830>>you're mormon i forgot to mention that>>mormon pimp cloakIn. But I still have to pimp out my Italian Sept2, first.
>>64967839Another one joins Pimp Cloak Gang.https://youtu.be/gt52SaUnmNo?t=30
>>64967849>tfw ENJOINED
>>64967859>tfw you are UNEQUAL and have jade emperor status on aliexpress so you can buy the secret deluxe rizz cloak
>>64967341You seem like a decent fellow, I hate to kill time.
>>64963815Things are gonna blow up real good when the 0101.07 CPL finally... finally... finally... eventually... possibly... releases.It exists and companies are getting armor listed on it, but it's not a public document until enough products are listed for the NIJ to feel like cops are getting a non-premature list.There's still a bet riding from 2024 on whether Adept will actually get their stuff certified or not. I'm thinking they won't but I do hope I'm wrong. Anyone want to bet if Gilliam will get his plates certed? Model 1023 would be looking mighty fine right now if it wasn't a wildcard.
