The modern cartridge-fed firearm had profound effect on gender. A woman equipped with a firearm significantly erodes combat superiority intrinsic to males. Like with all things, the collective awareness of this is more impactful than individual events. It is possible that Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson did more for feminism than Elizabeth Stanton or Susan B. Anthony. Points for discussion:*To what extent did modern firearms materially impact gender relations?*What firearms are most optimized for femme-frame gunslingers?*Is this the most compelling reason to ban firearms?*Do males statistically maintain combat advantage in a firearm-equipped environment?
This is the type of gun I associate with women. I believe most users are of course men.
Is this all it takes for a gun to be for a girl? The AR-15 is very femme-friendly as it is.
I thought I would include a post with her. I am embarrassed how much she has my attention.
None of it matters because women hate guns and self defense on average despite the fact that them having a gun on them would reduce their chances of being a fucking victim.
>>64959279Women are really averse to the idea of self defense. The idea of >just fuckin kill him, thendoesn't register as a valid solution for most of them for some reason. I don't really get it. If some dude tried to rape me, killing the shit out of him would be the first thing on my to-do list.
>>64959314And they vote anon
prostitutes and strippers shoot more rapists than cops do.
>>64959314>>just fuckin kill him, thenI remember getting into it with a friend of mine who always posted 'men are terrible and all they do is rape' shit on social media. I ran the idea by her to buy a gun and just the rapists through the pelvis and she acted like I was suggesting I burn down an orphanage.
Women don't really need guns, they can just manipulate men into doing violence on their behalf
>>64959314Because if they get raped it's going to be by someone they trust like their dad or their nonthreatening BFF and most women do not want to shoot someone they knowIt's the same reason why redditbrained solutions to sex crimes don't work, "bro just kill them, simple!", all that will do is make people stop reporting the sex crimes
>>64959346Can we see these prostitutes and strippers? Asking for a friend.
>>64959423It's not really a crime if you are both screaming.
>>64959416Personally I wouldn't mind being married to a woman who at least knows how to use them
>>64959437>if you can't find a good wife, raise one.T. Kanab, UT.
>>64956433>Points for discussion:What are you, a high-school civics teacher? Nerd! Unironically, I think women should use metal frame guns. Heavy but generally low recoiling. My sister likes shooting my 92. She has tiny fucking hands though, even a Glock 21 is a bit too large. I wish there were more sub compact metal framed guns. Maybe I'll buy her a P938
>>64959452>glock 21I mean 19
>>64959452I personally believe every woman should be able to shoot a Beretta 92FSAnd a P226, and a Glock 17/19
>>64959456I've got a P229 if that counts
>>64956433Sure, I'm bored, OP.You're probably on to something in that firearms leveling the field - not just between women and men, but between the strongest men and the weakest - likely contributed to women's rights. The industrial revolution producing a lot of machines that both freed up women's time and reduced the need for strength for a lot of work contributed as a whole, but guns were an important part.Women still make inferior firearm users. A gun that is lighter and smaller to suit their weaker hands will also have too much recoil for their weaker hands, unless it's a much weaker gun. It reduces the gap, it doesn't get rid of it. That said, wonder 9s and the rest of the usual suspects are fine for any woman with enough discipline to practice, and the others don't deserve guns.If you're so desperate for an advantage that you would ban guns just to weaken women, you're a weak man who will be getting your bussy blown out on the way to slavery to stronger men.>>64959279>>64959314Every single woman close to me due to my own direct ties is armed and is willing to kill to protect her own, except for one, who is a bit of a jesus nut with a hesitance towards violence, but even she has said that if she got worried she'd borrow one of her dad's guns.My friends' wives, coworkers, etc., that I deal with because other people picked them, yeah, y'all are basically right.
>>64959551Everyone says they'll not hesitate to take down the bad guy because they picture the bad guy will be wearing a "rapist" T-shirt and leap out of the bushes (but not at such close range that you can't draw, aim, and Mozambique Drill him)Then real life happens and it turns out the bad guy was living under the same roof as you and suddenly uh, uh, well he was an upstanding member of the community and I didn't expect anyone to believe me anyway!Always the tough talk until real life no longer looks like a Charles Bronson revenge action fantasy
>>64959667Will issue.My sister busted her husband's face open without hesitation the one time he got violent with her, and he never tried it again.Not gonna get into details, but the rest of the family history shows that if anything, we're more violent than is really socially acceptable these days.Not a fantasy of being badass, if we weren't a bunch of rule-following spergs a lot of us would probably be in prison.Yeah, a lot of people fantasize about being tough guys, but there's also a lot of redditors who fantasize about every violent urban youth being a hot meal and a hug away from pacifism, and they're just as wrong.
>>64959752Nobody thinks that, most of these "naive urbanites" are just well off people who would rather lose $150 and some credit cards they can just cancel, than shoot someone dead, even if they were guaranteed to not be charged with any crimes. Even most career criminals just want a free lunch, regardless of how cucked you think it sounds, the number of actual sociopathic killers out there is vanishingly rare.
>>64959767Sure, most people are deeply uncomfortable with serious violence.On the other hand, I knew a woman (she's dead now) who got tired of her ex trying to get back with her, so one night she invited him over to reconcile, dumped a shotshell into his chest at the door, and told the police he was trying to break in.I'd wager the number of sociopathic killers - while yes, absolutely a minority - is a bit higher than you think it is. Remember that only about half of murders get solved, and that's already the ones the police officially dub a murder.
>>64959821Yes, knows someone, a friend of a friend, or whatever, who died a violent death at the hands of a bad person.A superstitious person says "just goes to show you, you're more likely to get killed than you think"What it really demonstrates is just how fucking unbelievably huge our social networks are. If you live in a small town you won't get it, but people who live in cities of tens of millions of people do get it. You'll run into people you knew from two lives ago, just at random, sitting next to you on the bus, or in line at the store.So yes, we are all closer to violence than we would like, but not so close that half the population or more is simply deluded about it. They see the same information you see, but they react in a different way because we're all wired in our own special way.
>>64959854>*everyone knows someonefixed
>>64959443>Kanabenjoy your methed up bride I guess
>>64959854I can't tell whether you're AI posting or you're just naturally the sort to glide past what I'm saying to hit on your own talking points that are only connected by keyword.Congrats, I guess.
>>64959551This is a pretty thoughtful answer, I appreciate it. I agree that women are inferior firearm users, but I suspect it has less to do with their hands. Your mechanical claim wrt the lighter and smaller firearm frame on recoil control is obviously correct. I threw in the bit about ban-for-advantage to avoid coming off as a civics-teacher-nerd rather than anything close to advocacy. As another commenter shows, this was in vain. If anything, I'd make some radical suggestion like ONLY females can own firearms. Males would need to have a female custodial owner. Imagine it would necessitate males meet certain naturally selected social qualifications to own a gun. A woman has to sign off on it for you, hahahaha. Of course needless to say, any person identifying as a woman can own any gun she wants. That's an interesting political landscape. Legally, all firearms MUST belong to a woman. Government-Issue firearms all belong to Lady Liberty etc & so forth.
>>64959346I ought to run for office on a Guns For Whorescampaign. Run that up the flag pole and see who fails to salute.
>>64959416This is the classical answer and I think the most sensible counterpoint I've read.
>>64959423This is a good reply also. Sex crime is often perpetrated by someone who the woman doesn't necessary want to use violence against. This is why this shit is so messy.However, I meant general security concerns rather than limiting the scope to sexual violence. I understand that this is the most salient context.
>>64959452yeah yeah yeah, also>To what extent... Correct on metal frame. In fact, women and children might be best suited for crew-served weapon platforms. Structural supports for the gun and emphasis on teamwork!
>>64959821soft agree
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>>64956433>Points for discussion:I'll bite, I guess.>*To what extent did modern firearms materially impact gender relations?Being able to both hunt and defend as capably as any man is definitely historically unprecedented, but for as much as I love the archetype of a gun-slinging trailblazing frontier girl most ladies just don't get into firearms. It didn't get them the same sort of financial or social independence that social changes in the 20s or the factory work in WWII gave them.>*What firearms are most optimized for femme-frame gunslingers?Wonder 9s or .380s. Big problem is just getting them to shoot. Any sort of martial art/sport and anything with arms is overwhelming a male dominated scene, and I'm sure the vast majority of men interested in those things would like it if the ladies in their life could get into it to the same level as them.>*Is this the most compelling reason to ban firearms?Nah. Statistically women don't due the mass shootings that all politicians like to point to as the big reason to ban guns.>*Do males statistically maintain combat advantage in a firearm-equipped environment?What environment are you envisioning? In most scenarios I'd say yes, because males are predominantly going to be more likely to own a firearm, and I'd bet among firearm owners that the men are more likely to go to the range. If you mean a scenario where men and women are equal in ownership and equal in practice then I suppose there wouldn't be a "combat advantage" in a self-defense scenario the average citizen could expect to face. In actual combat I'd say that with all above being equal men would have the advantage still because with equal training, equipment, and mindset then the biggest difference is in physical capability.I mean in theory firearms are good for feminism, but realistically girls just don't care about guns like boys do.
>>64960193Is this your coomer fantasy or are you a retard-level feminist?The level of discrimination against men we have now is already seeing a lot of the youth demanding stripping women of the vote and much of their rights. And we're just at "teachers grade boys worse when they know they're boys" levels. Current boys see less discrimination than girls did in the 70s and they're getting psyched up to go taliban.It wouldn't matter if only women were "allowed" to have guns, the guns would be taken from them. Men are still, broadly, more comfortable with and capable at violence, and they're much better equipped on a genetic level to fight an insurgency.If what you're describing was tried, it wouldn't turn into a femdom fantasy, it would turn into a rape & ryona fantasy as large portions of the male population decided that playing along with "society" was definitely not worth it and decided to really show the world how badly gun control laws in the united states really work on criminals.It'd be very bad for women's rights because even the relatively sane women with healthy relationships would their men, not to mention the men who were comfortable treating them as equals, would pay the price for that overreach.
Women are still retarded and limp wristed even if you give them a gun anon. A revolver is the best weapon for women and old men because you can't limp wrist them and they are easier to operate and aim.
>>64960193that's cool and all, but niggers own full auto glocks in New York
>>64959314Many women subconsciously yearn for rape, its hard coded. Basically, throughout history any woman who had serious objections to some gross Mongol killing every man in their tribe and forcing them into their harem as breeding stock would kill themselves before passing on their genes. This means that there is a selection bias in favor of those who could get over it quickly or, dare I say, actually like it. Hence why its a relatively common fetish in literary erotica, which is the only porn medium that is consistently female.
>>64959886>everything longer than 3 words must be chatGPTGod damm, we're really going to be fucked when the last of the millennials dies off or reaches retirement age
>>64961149that's right, delulu is the solulu so you can avoid realizing what a moron you are.
>>64961148this, social darwinism explains most human behavior. This is why most women freeze during robberies and other violent situations, they are programmed to let the violent man have their way with them to survive. Because af you said, the women who fought back were more likely to be killed. If a woman wants to be a fighter she needs to override the inherent passiveness. Things like martial arts could work for conditioning towards violence.
>thinly veiled woman hate threaddon't you have like four different discord servers full of people you could be stewing in anger with instead of shitting up the catalogue?
>>64962577Hey, I engaged with the question in a reasonable manner. It's not my fault everyone on the internet is a stupid asshole.
>>64962607>the internet is a stupid assholeThat's not fair at all. There are two distinct parts of the internet. One part is reasonable, methodical and useful. The other part is niggerfaggots. This place is populated by the latter. Now go out and enjoy your niggerfaggotry by masturbating to your mom's high school pictures again. I intend to rob the nearest homeless person tonight in order to enjoy the endless bounty of random shit in a shopping-cart of mystery.
>>64956433Women tend to be scared of guns/see as moral failing, and many of the women who like guns use them as accessories (my sister) and handle in a dangerously unsafe way that empty a gun range post haste.The biggest equalizer of guns is that a skinny twink can now put a 44 though someone twice the size. Which is why that’s been a thing since the Wild West. Perhaps that’s weeded out the most violent low intelligence psychopaths.> *What firearms are most optimized for femme-frame gunslingers?Unironically 44/45 caliber guns with slim frames. Low pressure big bullet means low jolt and snap so recoil is a shove not a strike to your hand.
