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Missile of Theseus

Becuase the missile knows where it is at all times, because it knows where it isn't.

For the same reason the AIM-9 has been around for over half the history of flight, or why monoplane fighters became dominant, or why the F15/16 are still competitive: aerodynamics doesnt change, and once you figure out a near optimum solution to your problem theres only marginal improvements that can be made without some truly revolutionary technological breakthrough

>>64956504
What data do you have indicating it is good?
Really nobody can tell.
The US says "oh we launched XX tomahawks and hit all targets" but there is no proof.
No evidence.
Do you have evidence?

>>64956556
Everything that kills brown children is based

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>>64956564
Being an ignorant retard is not a reason to spoon feed you. It has an accuracy with a margin of error of 16 to 32 feet. That's extremely accurate for a missile. This is the only you you'll get from me brownoid

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>>64956504
>>64956512
yes

>>64956504
Look at this early block tomahawk and then look at your picture. A lot has changed externally and even more has changed internally.

Look at the nose. That duckbill chine on the new missile doesn't look like much, but combined with the RAM you don't see it massively reduces the frontal RCS.

Look at the air scoop on the old missile, now it's recessed. Again, RCS significantly decreases.

Look at the wings and the tail, The configuration is slightly different and the materials are VERY different. Now they're composites designed to avoid sending radar returns back in inconvenient directions.

Block IV and especially block V tomahawks are a lot more survivable than people give them credit for because they're a lot harder to track and engage than you might think. They're not quite "stealth first" missiles like JASSMs but they don't exactly make themselves easy to find on radar, especially if they happen to be heading directly towards you.

Tomahawks are good because they're proven, long range, accurate, reliable, and still survivable enough that the vast majority of them get through.

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>>64956509
>>64956556
>build school right next to IRGC base
>why do the shaitan nazi jew amerikkkaner bomb our schools?!
Really, Iran loked at what their throwaway proxies were doing and thought 'that is one hells of a good plan'

Not even the actual, real-life Nazis were this stupid.

>>64956570
NTA, but by Russian standards the kalibr is extremely accurate.

>>64956509
>>64956556
So it's going to be this and damaging that one radar for the next 30 years.

>>64956509
Don't look at me it could have been anyone's tomahawk

>>64956509
>>64956556
Still no proofs except ai footage.

>>64956556
>>64956509
Maybe the USA has built a pit bull AI, just for the missile?

>>64956596
There's still a week or so for the US to do something funny again. Iran is will probably bag a tanker or two before it wraps up.

>>64956504
>How the fuck is this old as missile still so fucking good?
>M109, B-52 and M2 Browining entered the chat.

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>>64956596
The radars are gonna be the US's Leopard 2's for decades.

>>64956504
Good how? It's the most basic missile imaginable. It's incredibly expensive too.

>>64956734
>国//translate.weibo?error003g&server-congguo1/?

>>64956734
>angry retard gets upset that he was discovered with this once, tries to "own" it like a lolcow with stockholm syndrome
lel

>>64956583
>even more has changed internally
Think of how far technology has marched since the Tomahawk first entered service in the 80s.
>giga faster CPUs
>absurd storage density for higher res maps (this payload goes to that building, 3rd floor, 2nd window from the left)
>maybe look up tables to classify potential threats (ooh, that's an air search radar I want to avoid, I'll detour 5 degrees to the east, boost speed by some_number, and still make my assigned time on target)
>all sorts of sensors for avoiding terrain, hostile emitters, etc.
Take crude but effective guidance capabilities from the 90s and fast forward that to today.

>>64956593
>"doesn't sweat much for a fat girl"

>>64956512
>The missile knows WHAT it is because it knows what it isn't

>>64956504
Its like windows or one of your linux shits. It just works.

>>64956504
Because it isn't am old missile, none of them that are the old versions you are referring to still exist.

>>64956593
Didn't they only find success in Ukraine after they started using the cluster variants ?

>>64956586
Everyone has families and therefore schools on their military bases. Nothing stupid about it.

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>>64956504
I'm surprised that it can get away with having itty bitty wings like that.
The Taurus in comparison has huge wings on top of a lifting body design.

Yes I know they are not good comparisons but still.

>Tomahawk is just a kamikaze drone from the 60s
Whoa.

>>64957376
That's the perspective fucking with you, Taurus has a wingspan of ~2m, Tomahawk ~2.7m.

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>>64956734
>translate.weibo

>>64956512
US greatest strength
Iterative improvements


AKa just testing and not stealing

>>64956512
I'm convinced when we're fighting our first space or alien wars space marines will stilm be using an AR variant while starships just VLS Tomahawks at targets just with an ion booster and fusion payload.

>>64957852
Sounds about right. Simple, reliable infantry weapons and guided missiles will always be useful.

>>64956734
Lol lmao

>>64957852
Tomahawk and hellfires will be used on Mars

>>64956586
it's worse than that. ~10 years ago the school building was ACTUALLY a part of the base's military efforts, however, at some point they decided they didn't need the building for the base, built a new wall between it and the base, and turned it into a school. it seems like the long-running status of it being once a part of the base overrode the more recent information of it no longer being a part of the base during automatic target selection(maybe AI even), and nobody checked the work well enough to note that the school hadn't been a part of the base for some time and should not be targeted.

>>64956583
Tomahawk is relatively cheap and so you can throw a lot of them. They can be launched from many platforms and you need to have spherical defensive coverage, which most militaries do not have.

>>64957938
That's a MASSIVE assumption you're making. Do not accuse people of such horrible crimes so lightly anon. Your soul is at stake.

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>>64956586
What monsters would do such a thing?

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>>64958354
Only soulless psychopaths, surely.
And it's not like American munitions are precise enough to target specific buildings while leaving others completely untouched.

>>64958691
>the school is where the families live and not where the planes work

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>>64958834
Regardless, the US has total discretion on whether to hit or not hit specific buildings. Israel has proven you can put an SDB in one specific room of an apartment building. If OSINT fags could figure out it was a school within a day then the DoD has no excuse for dropping a Tomahawk on it.
I know our only real point of comparison is the Russians, but that doesn't mean we should let our standards slip. We're better than this.

>>64958882
>y then the DoD has no excuse for dropping a Tomahawk on it.
this is true. whatever went wrong should be investigated. old data? some retard didn't do his job and even check? it's a waste of two good missiles

>>64958890
>old data? some retard didn't do his job and even check?
This is my assumption. I'm guessing they hired a bunch of jingoistic retards with total faith in the supremacy of the US armed forces without actually understanding the accountability culture and institutions that have been cultivated to facilitate it.

Who cares? It's not like any humans were harmed.

>>64958910
Irrelevant, it appears missiles were wasted on target with no military value and negative "PR" value.

>>64958910
Doesn't really inspire faith in the claims that we're doing it to save them from their oppressive government when you blow up their schoolchildren.

>>64956905
Underrated

>>64958902
>without actually understanding the accountability culture and institutions that have been cultivated to facilitate it.

We warrior culture now bro

>>64956583
It's long range is also a huge advantage because it can fly around most air defense. Combined with America's massive intelligence gathering, it's very hard to build a layered defense against tomahawks.

>>64958691
>if they nuke the Panda Express we riot

>>64958921
>Doesn't really inspire faith in the claims that we're doing it to save them from their oppressive government when you blow up their schoolchildren.
This is the first time I see a Muslim give a shit about children's lives.

>>64959213
He lost his wife in that bombing.

>>64959294
surely you mean future wife

>>64956583
>air scoop on the old missile, now it's recessed.
Weren't NACA ducts ancient tech before the tomahawk even existed?

>>64959296
He was simply following in the footsteps of his prophet

>brown turds talking to themselves

LOL.

>>64956586
Actually what happened is that they used out of date intel on targets and outsourced target selection to an AI company. There was no base there anymore. They hit the school twice, because after the first time they saw a bunch of people running in and out of the building so they thought it was a base. So it's not the missile that is inaccurate, it's actually just incompetence. Apparently the Tomahawk also can use unburned fuel as a secondary thermobaric effect, which they used as well. Something I doubt you would do in the vicinity of a school.

>>64958902
>I'm guessing they hired a bunch of jingoistic retards with total faith in the supremacy of the US armed forces without actually understanding the accountability culture and institutions that have been cultivated to facilitate it.
More likely they gave too few people too many targets to verify too quickly and someone missed it.

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>>64959916
Either way, it signals overconfidence to me. Every target should be getting double, triple, and quadruple checked. No relying on assumptions.

>>64959311
AoA performance, the benefit of ram air for a turbine, etc.

>>64959335
Has there been any independent confirmation of the LLM target selection stuff? It sounds very plausible with current DoD priority shifts but I don't think I've seen a primary source for the claim yet.

>>64960075
>>64959335
>>64958902
This is the kind of narrative games that turdies like to play, especially mudslimes: they impose ultra-strict rules on you bombing them, and scream WARCRIME WARCRIME WARCRIME over every bomb that went off course or outside CEP
This is their trap

If you try to comply, you will bog down with regulations and quadruple checking until you are unable to carry out your military objectives. Then they defeat you militarily
Or if you say you don't care, then they seize upon that as a pretext to throw away all the rules, because that's the real target: to get rid of the Western rules order, and impose their own (eg sharia). They never actually cared about warcrimes, they in fact are just itching to commit warcrimes themselves.
"Warcrimes" was simply an excuse to bog down your OODA loop, or for them to warcrime as well.
It is a practical application of true whataboutism fallacy: the one who cries "what about" actually commits more warcrimes and is crying in order to deflect criticism.

The solution is actually given in the Geneva Conventions: that school was not deliberately targeted. We already spend more time and effort than the rest of the world ensuring that we don't hit civilians. We commit fewer warcrimes than any other belligerent on any battlefield in the world. Yes, mistakes happen; but we make sure they happen less than anyone else.

So fuck you all. Until you can prove that you obey the Conventions to a higher degree than we do, you don't get to yell "warcrimes". Suck the Tomahawk.

>>64960260
Of course not
It's just part of the anti-AI narrative going around, because it fits into the wider narrative of alleged US incompetence, the turd world is scared of AI, or simply because "throw more shit and hope it sticks"

All it needed was to start a small spark of a rumour amongst retards and bad faith actors and let them propagate it themselves

>>64960265
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
>that school was not deliberately targeted
case in point
there is no way you can convince me they didn't mean to drop a tomahawk on that building
>we make sure they happen less than anyone else
In part because we're self critical. We need to know how this happened and take steps to ensure it doesn't again. This is our burden and our greatest strength.

>>64960273
I think anon means 'wasn't deliberately targetted' as in 'did not intend to destroy a school', as opposed to 'did not mean to hit that building'.
Either way I think everyone in the thread at least agrees that the intent was not to murder children regardless of semantics of how you phrase it.

>>64960278
You can say
>oh we wouldn't have hit it if we knew it was a school
but the fact of the matter is that retards on twitter figured out it was a school within a day, and that it had been separated from the base years ago, and yet the DoD couldn't?
If you want everyone to know you're the best in the world you need to actually live up to those standards.

>>64960273
>You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
Oh I recognise that canned line
You're brown

>>64960278
You're still assuming that 100% of American PGMs will hit 100% of their aimed targets 100% of the time, which is a ridiculous expectation
Even a Tomahawk missile can go off course entirely on its own, or clip something, or be hit by flak, or whatever
Don't apologise for something that doesn't need apologising for

>>64960282
>you need to actually live up to those standards
We already are, shitskin
>bbbut you're not living up to the ludicrous standards which I set!!!
You don't set the standard
Seethe and cope, shitskin

Was it hit? US DoD says so, so probably it's true.
Is it really a school? Idk are there any proofs not coming from Iranian government?
If it really is/was a school, why would you repurpose a fucking terrorist base for a school? No way they're SO wicked, right?
Was anyone hurt? If there were dead schoolgirls, Iranians definitely would parade their bodies like muddies always do, though I've only seen an AI generated image of their "funeral".
Remeber, they're the people who screamed "evil jooz bombed a hospital full of pregnant child journalists with hundreds dead" just a few years ago and it turned out to be their own rocket hitting a parking lot. They always lie.

>>64960282
>but the fact of the matter is that retards on twitter figured out it was a school within a day
Hindsight is 20/20 and no one had to "figure it out" when Iran was screaming about it nonstop. If the buildings had been turned into warehouses instead of a school retards on Twitter wouldn't even know the US hit a non-military target.

>>64960265
>If you criticize Israel murdering kids you are a thirdie
Moron. They used 2 Tomahawks and thermobaric blast mode on a childrens school.

Do you have an explanation for this?

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>>64960449
>Do you have an explanation for this?
even Tomahawks miss, and even US or Israeli military intelligence

do YOU have an explanation for Iran chimping out and hitting civilian buildings in every country within reach?

do YOU have an explanation for Palestinians deliberately targeting civilians for murder, rape, abduction and mutilation since 1946?

>>64960449
Do you turd worlders have an explanation for Iran attacking unarmed merchant ships? Remember when attacking an unarmed war ship was a warcrime?

>>64960455
>Hit same target twice
>Missed
??? It didn't miss.

>MUH PALESTINIANS
Also when did this board become straight Israeli propaganda? Not to be political but this IS a war of aggression against Iran, just like the 12 day which followed the same pattern, commit perfidy by using negotiations to assassinate another country's leaders. But these negotiations were also over a sovereign state's rights to develop it's own conventional weapons and possess a civil nuclear program.

>>64960466
Isn't this what Ukraine did though?

>>64960476
>Hit same target twice
because everyone knows missiles travel instantaneously amirite
>It didn't miss
because it's not like there were any military or nuclear facilities anywhere nearby amirite
>commit perfidy by using negotiations
show me the signed ceasefire agreement under which those negotiations were being conducted, or fuck off
>civil nuclear program
>60%-enriched uranium
>refusal to commit to <5% enrichment limit
lol
lmao

in fact just fuck off

>>64960478
only if this Thai wheat carrier was somehow part of a known ghost fleet supplying the US with weapons or oil, otherwise you are a disingenuous cunt and your mother is a slampig whom your father fucked with his dick fresh out of a goat's ass

>>64960449
>T-H-E-R-M-O-B-A-R-I-C
Убeйcя, пидop.

>>64960483
Hitting the same target twice is pretty deliberate anon. Then they used the thermobaric blast mode the second time on the same target.

Also the talks involved Iran not having *any* civil nuclear program and giving up it's conventional missiles. Iran did not refuse to commit to the less than 5% limit. They still used talks twice to attack Iran's leadership, the second time involved killing a religious leader. That had no military value at all.

>>64960476
>pwease pwetty pwease don't kill our le heckin churka-durka chief, our the-towellest of heads! Not again!

>>64960516
>talks
show me the signed ceasefire agreement under which those negotiations were being conducted, or fuck off
>Hitting the same target twice
Proof?

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>>64960523
The New York War Crimes

>>64960455
If lack of intelligence or missing the target is the excuse then wtf are we talking about here?

Do shaheds even have obstacle or terrain databases? Isn't a wifi 6 router enough to point iranian IRBMs into the wrong direction? Like what yardstick is supposed to measure iranian engineering combined with bargain bin electronics and congolese militia level C2?

And on the flip side what is supposed to be the response to an accidental school bombing run? Like wtf would the US do if a cruise missile impacted a school next to an AFB? Shrug it off? The big difference is that the US actually could bring the hurt while Iran needs the US to basically park equipment in their backyard just to have something to shoot at and maybe hit.

>>64960669
According to the NYT, Kegseth gutted the unit responsible for double-checking bombing sites. And before you go
>NYT
without offering a superior source, this absolutely seems consistent with Kegseth's other decisions like (not even officially) renaming DoD, focusing on grooming standards, doing worthless photo op shit like summoning all the generals, and basically being retarded short-sighted all the time. All while ignoring China and trying to buttfuck our non-Israeli allies.

Because it's not ever been used in a peer conflict?

>>64960660
>2 hours is enough for post-strike BDA to identify it as a school
yeah right

>>64960669
I'm not sure what you're trying to say

>>64960677
>According to the NYT
the NYT's journalistic integrity is about the same as the NYP at this point
not to mention NYC is a mudslime outpost colony now, so the NYT is practically Aljizzeera-tier

>>64956504
Most aerospace tech was invented in the 50s and 60s. We've made very little progress since then, and most of that progress comes at immense cost with diminishing returns (why hypersonic glide vehicles have not become a mainstay) Literally the only thing that has made missiles and bombs better in recent decades is some of the onboard targeting technology, using GPS among other things.
The JDAM is a pretty cool piece of gear since it turns a dirt cheap bomb into an ultra precise weapon.

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>>64960330
begone tourist

>>64960692
Al Jazeera is one of the more plain analysis/fact oriented publications, not quite Reuters or AP tier, but your problem with it lies mainly with the fact that it's name registers as brown-coded to your nuance lacking pea brain.

>>64960928
it literally repeats Hamas propaganda without a shred of critical analysis
but of course that's right up your alley, eh, mudslime?

imagine this kind of mental gymnastics in favor of the Russians

>>64960936
>Muh HAMAS
Please make it any more obvious you are Israeli.

>>64960265
>We already spend more time and effort than the rest of the world ensuring that we don't hit civilians.
this must be bait

>>64961306
It’s funny when people who don’t understand the Bible try to use it as a source to condemn others.

>>64956504

Nice cave you've got there? Half of the American army's weapons are decades old and a good portion of the other half that has been modernized was done so because some dimwit on the general staff heard "1970"

>>64961335
are you implying that harming children isn't reprehensible? are you implying Jesus is okay with those that do harm to children? if so, you speak blaspheme.

>>64961276
I'm not, got my foreskin and Messiah and everything, but that's hardly the point

>>64961306
sure, I don't mind that at all
but see again
>Until you can prove that you obey the Conventions to a higher degree than we do, you don't get to yell "warcrimes"
Until you yourself begin drowning the kiddie diddlers on your side, you don't get to rub our faces in ours

>>64961325
you mean the likes of Hamas, or the Taliban, or Iran, or Russia, are well-known for going out of their way to avoid civilian casualties?

>>64961306
So true. They double-tapped the girls school first to kill the girls, then to kill the parents trying to rescue them. Trump said if he couldn't have those girls, then no one else can. Many such cases.

>>64961360
don't mind what? you should speak more clearly about such matters.
>>64961361
your parents did a bad job raising you anon. i'm sorry for that. you should direct your anger at them instead of lying about someone on the internet.

>>64961373
>don't mind what?
drowning paedophiles
every single one of the Rotherham gangs, and the people who covered up for them, and the Epstein gang, and the people who covered up the Epstein Files, and the trannies who diddled kids, and the people who covered up the trannies who diddled kids, and the people who introduced drag queens to preteens and prescribed puberty blockers, and the people who supported those initiatives, and the people who permit preteen marriage - they all have harmed children and I'm happy to see them all drowned

>>64961360
>you mean the likes of Hamas, or the Taliban, or Iran, or Russia, are well-known for going out of their way to avoid civilian casualties?
your shithole massacred ~60k civillians during the gaza war. you're worse than Russia and all the terrorists you mentioned combined

>>64961373
>lying about someone on the internet
Its clear that 'no more forever wars' Trump was part of the Epstein gang and is being blackmailed by Bibi to send American boys to do Bibi's dirty work

>>64961414
I'm not Israeli, but
>your shithole massacred ~60k civillians during the gaza war
how would you know they were all civilians? Hamas doesn't wear uniforms in combat
>combined
lol
lmao

>>64961425
It's clear that Iran has nuclear material sufficient to build nuclear weapons, cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons due to its habit of indiscriminately bombing everyone when it's attacked, and must be stopped, regardless of allegations against the US

>>64961414
absolutely SEETHING brownie

>muh millstone
Read the passage again you mongs, and I mean the whole passage, not just skipping through looking for epic implications of violence because Christianity is a crusader larp to you. The passage is about leading young believers astray. It's not about making all children untouchable, its about the responsibility to raise them right and that the absolute worst thing you can do is abuse your authority as an adult to corrupt a child and turn them away from the righteous path. Turdies are literally incapable of framing any sort of authority dynamic as anything orher than one built on physical violence.

>>64961430
Only one country has used nukes in anger anon. We gonna turn over every country that gets near a nuke?

>>64961446
you have no idea how long I have been praying that pakistan, india and china glass each other. I have to wait for the water wars in a decade or 2 but that shit is coming.

>>64961430
>how would you know they were all civilians?
it's an estimate from watching your shithole indiscriminately bomb population centers. the total amount of dead is >70k. the outright evil shit Israel did during the war is mindboggling, like bombing refugee camps and gunning down Palestinians at "aid"-centers. I unironically hope ISrael gets nuked during my lifetime, as thanks for all the suffering it caused during its short existence

>>64961425
>it's clear
no it isn't
spreading this nonsense will not provide you with the affection your parents refused you
they will pay by you doing the same thing to them in their old age

>>64961467
Boooo. You've got to support Israel, or you hate America and are an ethnic minority.

>>64960265
The question I don't see anyone asking is what were kids doing at school on the weekend? A fuckup like this should have killed an unlucky janitor. They were shields and the IRGC were hoping something like this would happen. I wonder how many other places were setup the same way and we didn't hear about it because their plan failed.

>>64961446
>Only one country has used nukes in anger anon
and it was justified
moreso given that the side-effects of radiation etc were not well-understood at the time
>We gonna turn over every country that gets near a nuke?
Yes.

>>64961467
Then you should also hope that the Turks and Arabs get nuked due to all the suffering that they have caused.
or did you conveniently forget the Armenian genocide? or the huge numbers of Christians murdered and enslaved since 600 AD from the Middle East to Spain and France?

no doubt the Israelis were initially just as savage, especially in the late 40s. but they have changed their ways. the Arabs haven't, they're still defending Hamas for October 7 and insist that it is the right way to conduct war.
and you yourself are complicit in that.

>>64961498
might've been a hostel. mudslimes like hostels, it helps them brainwash more efficiently when they have total control of a student.

>>64961498
Iranian school week is Saturday to Thursday. Weekend is Thursday and Friday. Holy day is Friday.

>>64961529
*Saturday to Wednesday

>>64961522
>but they have changed their ways
lmao what? they are savages today, at this very moment
>mentions random genocide
the difference is I didn't see it happening. at least you don't try to pretend that Israels actions in Gaza are comparable to a genocide and it's exactly what it was

>>64961535
>are comparable to a genocide
*aren't comparable

>>64961522
Youre going to be busy then. After Trumps latest blunder, a lot more countries want nukes for their security - Saudis, Brazil, Poland, Canada, Italy, Spain, Malaysia, Qatar, Myanmar, Indonesia all want nukes now.

>>64961535
>at least you don't try to pretend
indeed I don't, because it's not a genocide
a real genocide would have been actually carpet-bombing refugee camps to kill far more than the alleged ~60,000 over two years, which Israel could have done at any time
>they are savages today, at this very moment
just because you keep screeching it, doesn't mean it's true
>the difference is I didn't see it happening
no, the difference is that you are a mudslime and you support those genocides just like you support the October 7 warcrimes

>>64961549
they can try, but for the past 10 years post-JCPOA, Iran is still the only non-nuclear-weapon country producing weapons-grade uranium
besides, it would have been the same end result of effective non-enforcement of nuclear proliferation

>>64961557
>just because you keep screeching it
I see it fucking happening
>you support those genocides
I don't support any genocides, neither am I a muslim. least dishonest Jew holy fuck

>>64961549
>Indonesia
Again?

>>64961522
>Israel have changed their ways
Israel are run by Likudites now, who evolved from the Stern Gang, would make Dirlewanger blush. Shooting civilians like fish in a barrel in Gaza with modern combined arms shows who the really are.

>>64961557
You zios are in for a nasty shock these coming weeks.

>>64961574
>would make Dirlewanger blush
Dirlewanger did far worse
>Shooting civilians like fish in a barrel in Gaza with modern combined arms shows who the really are
like I said, if they were actually doing it systematically, they would have managed to kill more than what, ninety a day? even the Hutus managed more than that in Rwanda. more civilians died per day during Operation Overlord.

>>64961590
>these coming weeks.
Is it two? I bet it's two

>>64961599
Nice meme but Israel is getting rekt, Iran aren't stopping any time soon. Like what do you think is gonna happen?

>>64956570
> It has an accuracy with a margin of error of 16 to 32 feet
This needs context. The Block V Tomahawk has a published effective range of about 1000 miles. That's Danger Close tier accuracy from A Different Timezone. That's hitting a particular platoon in a completely different battle. That's hitting a particular plane on the tarmac from Outside that plane's effective combat radius.

That's fucking insane.

>>64956570
>>64961623
So they were definitely aiming for that school.

>>64961633
they were probably aiming for a building that they did not know was a school, yes.

No one really gives a shit about the school Toma-Chan visited unexpectedly.

>>64961633
>iran suddenly crying about civilians after massacring 30k
I hate thirdies like you wouldn’t believe. I’m always impressed at how evil you all are.

>>64961633
So? Fuck em. Thirdies have no horse on this race since they've been massacring civilians for decades and put down all opposition to the regime with bullets

>>64961665
Only WE'RE allowed to massacre our people!

>>64961633
I think the most likely thing is they let an LLM handle target selection and just didn't bother to double check.
>you're absolutely right! That building WAS a school, and it was my fault for including it as a primary target. Let's break down how this could have happened...
>emoji-pointed list

>>64961529
If that's true then they deserved to be bombed for such a retarded schedule.

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>>64961654
This. The building was located inside the wire and was part of the base until 2016 or so. Somehow that change in status never became systemic knowledge and consequently the building was never pulled from The List. So at this point the investigation will be focusing on how the fuck that happened, probably followed by a comprehensive global review of The List to see if there's any others.

>>64961654
>>64961665
>>64961682
>>64961786
It's strange that you can believe yourselves to be good people, fortunately you are in the minority. You'd be crying if this happened to a school in Israel. Funny that.

>>64961815
I find it hard to believe they care about collateral damage.

Why the fuck would you build a school so close to a fucking military base? Do we do this in America? Does Japan or China?

I find it amusing that shitskins will bitch about kiddies dying in a school or hospital like its a moral issue. When we(whites) mock the Russians for blowing up a clinic or a dog kennel its not because we give a shit about the cripplies or puppies that got asploded. We are mocking their aim. That missile which blew up those shitlets was a missile wasted unless you are a genocidal racist like myself and thus we must assess where the error occurred.

So the betting begins gentlemen
Old intelligence got scanned from a paper copy +6
Jew intel asset gave bad intel either deliberately or because of ethnic nepotism +5
Communication error +3
Didn't bother checking +0
Blew it up because the they though some valuable asset had gone inside -1
Target misidentification when mission was planned -2
Mechanical error -8
Actual shitty aim -10

>>64961839
Oh we know it wasn't bad aim anon

>>64961828
The missile costs money anon, and it cost man hours to maintain it and get it to the location from which it was fired. That's millions of bucks over the decade or more of the missile's life. That missile might have blow up something of actual value.

>>64961828
It's not collateral if the target is the government. That's a new world of warfare brought on by the precision age, and this is the first time we're seeing it deployed on this scale. Not having to grind through a million conscripts to get at the jackasses shooting their families is a great feeling, and we will continue to see more of it as the century goes on.

>>64961843
That's why -10 on the spread. You make your money on the suckers.

>>64961849
>>64961852
They blew it up for the same reason German cities got firebombed back in WW2

>>64961818
>You'd be crying if this happened to a school in Israel.
Nigger do you know where you are? I'd be laughing my ass off, a dead jew kid is like ten times as valuable to me as a dead mudslime kid.

This is the mistake you faggots always make, for most people here the assessment of and speculation upon military capabilities is the end in and of itself. Politics doesn't come into it. Me hating the jews won't make Iran suck less at defending itself.

I wasn't aware that the Iranians had a fairly competent air defense system and robust industrial production thereby necessitating area bombing night raids due to a combination of the efficacy of flak and the ineffectiveness of the oversold Norton bombsight in daylight bombing.

Only a few of the cities which got glassed where glassed systematically from the start and that was only late in the war after precision bombing which had been the pre-war doctrine was shown to be a failure.

>>64961862
ACKmed, please
1: the incendiary work in Germany was mostly the Brits
2: it was mostly a result of shitty weapon guidance back in the day
3: if the US was giving that little of a fuck, you would not be crying about ONE school

>>64961869
There are so many zioshills on here. These fags love Israel, BiBi and Trump. Fair enough you aren't one of them but I'm watching these niggers.

>>64961875
And is this why the US and Israel now have complete air dominance over Iran? Ineffective Norton bomb sight? You reek of brown

>>64961883
>Reading Comprehension: critical failure

>>64961877
You are ignorant of history. Dresden wasn't a valid military target, the zios are just getting started. Many more schools will get hit.

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>>64961891
If they wanted to maximize pain per dollar input they'd target infrastructure like power plants, sewage treatment, water purification, dams, high tension wires, ect. I haven't even heard of them saturating Iran with airborne fibers to blow out utility poles yet. They are a long way down the escalation chain from using JDAM kitted dummy bombs from the 70s to blow up every hospital or something.

Reminder that Alex Jones' red meat on his 90s radio shows was the Clinton admin blowing up that baby formula factory in Iraq and sactioning them. "Muh gorrilion starving shit-colored chillins!" The issue is that nobody who is right wing actually cares when darkies die, they are just disappointed that jews may be hypothetically benefitting. I say hypothetically because by my prior estimation and what we've seen so far Iran wasn't even a threat and thus the kikes are wasting political capital due to their paranoia.

>>64961911
I think the zios want an off ramp because they've started something they can't finish, not easily anyway. Once this war becomes a total war we'll see more if the likes of what you described.

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>>64961891
>muh Dresden
>muh total war
>implying Iran is holding back
You have no fucking idea how ugly the Second World War was. You do not want to see that return. You should be grateful that Iran does not and will now never have the ability to push things to that level. There are B-52s running free-roam over Iran right now. Do you have even the slightest idea how much damage a B-52 flight can do to an urban area if cut loose?

>>64961916
More likely it will just petter out like an old man taking a piss. Iran might never declare an armistice but rather an indefinite ceasefire like beastkorea in order to save face both internally or externally.

I'm frankly confused why they even bothered with this clownshoes bombing campaign, Iran was looking to be in dee political shit. It's easier to undermine a regime without even trying when what a appears to be an better quality of life is right next door but the government intervenes against it and instead uses up all the potable ground water. Once shit is bombed out the simple rat race of existence largely eliminates that source of civil unrest.

>>64961948
Countries on that level of desperation do stupid things. Did you ever actually think that the IRGC would willingly surrender power? Might as well get the first hit in and start clearing out the ordinance while it's still on the ground.

>>64961936
>>64961948
You people are silly. The new ayatollah has had his dad, his wife and his kid killed by the zios and you think they're just going to give up?

>>64961936
Also no evidence of b52s directly over Iran.

>>64961960
I’m just not that scared of cardboard.

>>64961924
>7 service members is a equal exchange of the Iranian regime being annihilated from the air in a few days
The brown IQ is something else

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>>64961960
Of course not, why do you think this is happening in the first place? Many countries have disliked the US. None but Iran have been THIS committed to being THIS belligerent for THIS long.

>>64961966
Oh you'll be fine over in Eglin. It's your buddies in the Gulf and Israel that'll be gett blow to fuck.
>>64961971
This is only the beginning... Silly boy.

>>64961981
>blow to fuck
You mother's nickname isnt relevent right now

>>64961960
And now he lost his leg and it's now in intensive care. Kek. Every new leader, every new position it's within bombing range because there's nothing then they can do

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>>64961981
>This is only the beginning, our allies will save us!

>>64957852
You forgot the part where some Tomahawks are space launched from B-52Ws.

>>64961988
Obviously I ment blown to fuck you hysterical faggot
>>64961994
You'll see. Shit if you're young enough you might get drafted. You will die for Israel.

>>64956504
The child seeking warheads make it very effective. Must’ve bought them from Russia.

>>64962000
I mean this facebook boomer meme calling me brown is just too obvious. You shills are so dumb. I never said anything about allies. Get rekt loser.

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>>64962007
It never ceases to amuse me how the scariest scenario to the brown mind is the one where the US just doesn't invade. Pick it up yourself this time, we're not going.

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>>64962000
>its a "Wanda turns Timmy into a nigger so he'll be able to exploit college admissions" episodes
jesus christ Nickelodeon
They must have really wanted that merger approved...

>>64956504
Good at killing schoolgirls

>>64962018
Your hardly making any sense. Scary scenario? Brown? Like nigger could you glow harder. You're incoherent and imagine how stupid you will feel when Trump gives the order.

>>64961981
>Eglin
Now I know you’re a thirdie.

>>64962030
ACKmed, you've been crying here all week jacking off about how horrible everything's going to get once the REAL Iranian army gets to fight and insisting that there HAS to be an invasion so that it can happen. Yes, you are brown.

>>64962032
I see you glowie

>>64962049
If you were right you wouldn't be acting this pissy

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>>64962060
Post hand and outlet

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>>64962063
that's a big watch

>>64961960
No I think the US will fuck off as the Chabbad polticial parties in Israel burn their political capital. Then the more libtarded kikes will begin to become the predominant influence for moment. Israel will sit around bitching that the Job isn't done. The US will sit around finger wagging like it did to Iraq in the 90s. The fact is that everybody in America really fucking hates jews. The left hates them because they think they are white and thus perceive Israeli actions as ebil whitey killing the brown chillins. Rightwingers in America are either complete cuckservatives or gase'emall14886969, there is essentially no middle ground at this point. Any significant deployment could result in some serious shit in one form or another, thus they are very hesitant about it. If Iran was white rather than merely inbred caucasian I'd say they might be perceptive enough to capitalize on that, but then again Russia is nominally white and look at the state of them. I blame universal alcoholism.

>>64962070
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>>64962063
yt clowns be ugly af all over.
even yo palms is ugly. Ya own shadow tryin to get away from you.

>>64962082
Kek

>>64962050
Don’t look now, I’ve got Mossad coming over to personally rape you.

>>64962082
I still don't see an outlet or a white hand.

>>64956586
So are we finally willing to admit that Timothy McVeigh did nothing wrong and it was the government's fault for putting a daycare in the building?

>>64962130
>intentional terrorism and horrible accidents are of the same moral equivalence to a brownoid
Yes, we know you’re evil. Stop reminding us.

>>64962107
I'm a dog I don't need outlets.

>>64962135
You really expect anyone to believe that Waco was an accident?

>>64962155
>WACO out of nowhere
Get a new script, brown child.

>>64962171
>Brown is when you care about dead children

>>64962176
Lol, brownoids suddenly care about civilian casualties, especially when the Iran regime has been targeting civilians for decades and shooting protestors. Show hand and outlet

>>64961971
To be fair, 7 US servicemen is a lot more useful than the entire Iranian government.

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>>64962180
I'm a cat so no outlet

>>64962176
Actually, it's more feminine than brown. Being led around by the nose and funneled into political retardation because DEAD CHILDREN is peak woman behavior.

>>64962192
Oh yeah cause this whole war isn't peak political retardation?. Kek

>>64962130
Mean it was likely the government's fault for using him as an asset for almost a decade to stir shit then sent a handler(the unknown second man who no less than two people reporting on got greased over) to direct him to blow up the federal building to invalidate the militia movements they were finding increasingly troublesome.

McVeigh was also a big sympathizer with the plight of Iraq after the Gulf war and wrote down the usual bitching about, "muh baby food factory, muh DU, muh shitskins". He was in direct contact with the mudslimes who did the World Trade Center basement bombing, likely also at least aggitated if not orchestrated by Mossad for the same reason they were involved in the lead up to 9/11 and the reason they pushed for the current war in Iran. They jews are paranoid about another 6 Days war thus any state or ideology which professes ambitions for a pan-arab or pan-mudslime political movement is seen by them as an existential threat o matter how far fetched.

They also see white nationalism as a bigger existential threat hence why they've spent the last century doing everything in their power to oppose it, and unlike the Zionist stuff all the jews are in on that one. Which makes sense form their position, I mean I have openly said I want them all killed in this very thread. I just don't like the faggy sneaking around.


I may be a genocidal racist an anti-semite, I may think that both terrorist acts involving the WTC and the bombing of OKC were likely orchestrated by US and Israeli intelligence at least in part. However whether my assessments are correct or incorrect they are cold, heartless assessments based on perceived self-interest. The reason everybody is mocking you is because nobody here whether racist, zionist, or merely autist interested in war give a fuck about the lives of darkies and care very little about the lives of others in general. This board is for weapons and war enthusiasm not moralism.

>>64962197
>cause this whole war isn't peak political retardation?
On, no, I agree. Iran had 50 fucking years to not be retarded, or at least keep the retardation inside their own borders like a sensible hermit kingdom a la North Korea or Franco's Spain. But they didn't, and now they get to play musical chairs with their leadership until they find someone who will.

>>64962222
Checked
>>64962229
>Arguing with based quads
>Sounding like a faggot
pottery

>>64962233
You cannot prove me wrong because I'm not. Sad.

>>64962237
You’re stumping for brown people. You’re wrong by default.
Trump is a huge pedo retard, but even he isn’t Iran and their casual murderfiesta of protestors.

>>64962237
I don't give a fuck who started the war. Killing shitskins is always a net good.

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>>64962229
Iran started this war 40 years ago. It's not Uncle Sam's fault that nobody thought he'd ever return fire.
>muh that was a long time ago
>muh Shah
Unified Vietnam came into being under similar circumstances to the Iranian revolution. Actually, it was a worse starting point, because they'd just fought a war with the US and broke the peace treaty to do it. And here they are, the same 50 years later, NOT getting bombed to shit, because they knew how to bury the hatchet.

>>64962248
I mean it's a basic fact that America started the current conflict. The fact that you have to argue over basic facts says everything, now doesn't it?

>>64962251
>>64962254
This conflict is sure to be another Vietnam. I wonder of you'll still be shilling this shit then...?

>>64956552
>>64956633
>>AIM-9
>>F-15/F-16
>>M109, B-52 and M2 Browining
Motherfuckers better not forget the C-130. Take a long, hollow tube. Put simple wings and tail on it. Add 4 super-reliable turboprop engines. You really can't fuck with that plan. When the US military wanted to replace the C-130, they replaced it... with a C-130.

>>64962255
Iran didn’t start it by being the largest state funder of terrorism in the world? News to me.

>>64962263
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

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>>64962263
And right back to the
>muh ground invasion occupation shitshow cope
And I restate how fucking funny it is that the idea that Uncle Sam is just going to leave them with a pile of rubble to sort out on their own is the scariest thing in the world to browns.

>>64962273
Being confident doesn't make you right. It makes you retarded.
>>64962271
Terrorism in Israel, not America.

>>64962275
>The same shill lines.
This op is so obvious. You people suck at 5th generation warfare. You will never gain public support.

>>64962277
No, I meant how stupid you are to assume that I don't want to have another decade of bombing the shit out of muzzies.

>>64962288
No respect for the tax payers money. Typical government worker.

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>>64962277
The fuck? Iran’s terrorism has affected America plenty! Are you actually just some retarded evil demon spreading lies?

>>64962254
I think Iran's proximity to Israel and their mutual antagonism is a bigger factor.

This thread is a prime example of why /k/ needs flags.

(anyone that responds to this angrily or denying my statement is brown)

>>64962315
Name 1 attack that happened in America

>>64962332
Brownies just use VPNs, anon. It would accomplish nothing.

>>64962338
>nothing happened the past week and the Iranians weren’t arming the Houthis!
:/

>>64961838
I know that the US Navy has a school, for the kids of sailors and others, next to the Navy base in Bahrain.
>t. went there

>>64961948
>why would they be concerned with a potential nuclear power suffering food shortages, water shortages and revolution attempts
Truly boggles the mind

>>64962342
Yeah, that's what I thought. Dickwad

>>64962339
>VPNs
That cost money, which would put off at least the most low-effort trolls (probably also the loudest ones)

>>64962229
The mind of the brown is really astonishing. There's no past or future, just the present

>>64962374
Clearly you’ve never been on /pol/.

>>64962350
>potential nuclear power
Please.

>>64962356
Go support brown, Bronze Age terrorism elsewhere you vile sack of shit. My god. That people like you think you’re decent is an example of humanity’s greatest evils.

>>64962311
Anglos started bombing civilians first and France invaded Germany first.
Hitler did nothing wrong, except to lose the war.

>>64962377
/pol/ has the JIDF, as well as state-backed trolls, and they're mostly there or /int/ because its just those two boards (that matter, I know /sp/ has flags too but they can't affect culture as much on there. If we had all the boards with flags, Mossad's budget for shitposting in "right wing spaces" would have to be increased 10x.

>>64962301
I'm a White, Male, in the trades. I get raped on taxes. Using it to kill nonWhites is one of the very few things it will ever actually get spent on that I can support.

>>64962383
>I'm going to invade everyone else and no one's going to invade me
Okay, retard.

>>64962378
You mean the thing Iran has been steadily working towards and playing fuck fuck games during negotiations over? Yeah, potential. Luckily America has made it abundantly clear that mudshit word games don't work and Iran will never get the bomb :^)

>>64962403
The mind of the brown will deny it. Apparently Iran got bombed due nothing and its entirely innocent.

>>64956504
Pretty sure he is infamous for his collateral damage and unreliability.

>>64962387
>4chinz
>effecting culture
Flags are a meme and nothing posted on the literal lowest IQ board will ever be worth actual glowie investment

>>64962392
Don't care. Germans were based and frogs should have minded their own business. Post hand and the state you live in.

>>64962411
Look, Chaim, I get it, you'll have to ask for a bigger budget for your department, but it will help you also, as you will be able to immediately identify brown posters. You know you have a whole stack of US IPs that you can use, too.

>>64962403
Arabs cannot into nuclear weapons. I support bombing them for a plethora of other reasons, but continually claiming they are close to cobbling together a working bomb is Iraq II "weapons of mass destruction" tier bullshit.

>>64962418
>start shit
>lose
>BASED
Yeah, no wonder you're a fan of third-world shitholes.

>>64962429
>start shit
>loses
>claim to have won
Such is the life of the french

>>64962429
I'm not, you stupid fuck. I am a fan of White men trying to save Western civilization.
Tell me with a straight face that the UK is better off now than if Hitler had won.

>>64962440
>Says this
>Cries about Iran
Lol. Lmao even

>>64962449
You have the wrong anon, you ignorant nigger faggot. I say nuke them.
And Tel Aviv too.

>>64962440
>herpadoo imma fite errone and lose imma savin teh whites
You boy was a retard, and you're a retard.

>>64962427
There are very few reasons to continually raise the enrichment levels of their uranium and none of them the US is interested in seeing in the hands of Iran. Nuclear, dirty or otherwise they have no water and just had to put down ~30k "totally 100% Mossad and CIA agents". Their dollar store Samson Option is evidence enough that nobody should even entertain Iranians having access to fire, let alone enriched uranium.

>>64962453
Based. The world would know true peace if the Middle East was a parking lot

>>64962467
>the thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people
t. Stephen Hawking
And you cannot argue that it is not morally correct.

>>64962422
I'm sure Moishe is deeply invested in arguing schizo theories and who is in fact "best girl" with porn addicts and nerds on the internet, I disagree they need a poor man's vpn and dedicated agents though.

>>64962468
Agreed. But they would flub it. Look how long it took Best Korea. They are orders of magnitude smarter than dune coons, even "persian" ones

>>64962467
And you could have at least admitted you were mistaken, much less apologize for it. Instead you lash out like a woman.

>>64962493
>start shit
>lose
>demand an apology
Again, the wehraboo-to-thirdie pipeline remains undefeated.

>>64958910
>Who cares?

the post of a chronic bad-faith arguer.

>>64962427
>continually claiming they are close to cobbling together a working bomb
so Iran is lying that they have 400kg of near-60%-enriched uranium?

>>64960455
the US is and should be held to a higher standard considering how much we act like world police. that's why its a scanal when we do it and minor news story when russia does it.

>>64962513
it's possible
but they probably shouldn't have fibbed if so

>>64962518
>We
LMAO You're brown

>>64962522
and you have not stopped arguing in bad faith for over a decade now. you don't care that we blew up that school because you don't care about anything other than being entertained.

>>64962518
>should be held to a higher standard
and we're already fulfilling higher standards than any other belligerent in the world, so nobody else gets to dictate standards to us

>>64962520
>t. would rather believe that Iran lied about having nuclear material than believe that Netanyahu was right about Iran having nuclear material
lol
lmao

>>64962528
>We again
You're a shitty ass shill. Your handler should be embarrassed

>>64962540
people are more likely to believe its bullshit because the LAST WAR WE WERE IN had the same retarded excuse.

>>64962546
that's on a level with saying that just because I didn't fuck your mum the last time I said it, you will actually tell your mum she's a lying slag when she cries to you that I raped her

>>64962440
Given we don't know how long the German government would remain viable and vehmently anti-heeb and if its victory might in fact push a backlash in anlgo countries which might make them pro-semitic faster, there is no way he or anybody can answer that question. One of the issues I have with the nazis is that they weren't actually genocidal racists, I am. Also the way they structured their economy was shit.

So anyway, back to the subject at hand: Toma-Chan. We are obviously chewing through old stock, so do you think production will ramp up?

>>64962625
We had like 6 thou of them and they've long been superceded by the DJ Jazzy Jeffs so I doubt it.

>>64962508
If you care about muslims dying then you either are one or you're a food.

>>64962625
undoubtedly
the media talks a lot of shit about Patriots just so they can shit on Trump, but none of them are saying that we're already planning to triple Patriot production

>>64956504
My Tomahawk story:
>2006
>Salman Pak, Iraq (20 miles south of Baghdad)
>Running a program that’s buying munitions off of the locals. (Think gun buy back for bombs)
>Farmer shows up saying there’s a bomb in his field.
>I get to the field and see a Tomahawk missile, overgrown in the weeds, with a kid standing on it.
>Called it in and had to spend three days guarding it while we waited for Navy EOD to show up and destroy it.
>Turns out that it had been fired during the invasion in 2003 (shock and awe) and never made it to the target.

Normally I would shoot at the IEDs, hoping they would explode and I wouldn’t have to wait for EOD. I didn’t feel comfortable shooting at that thing.

>>64962929
odds the next administration will cancel that reflexively

Now that I think about it, I was danger close when they detonated that thing. I’m probably one of the few Americans to have been that close to one of those going off.

I’ve been danger close to just about everything exploding.
Microphones never pick up how a high speed military explosive sounds like.
It’s not like booms from fireworks.
The best way I can describe it is that it sounds all digital. Like Dolby. Like the weird robotic sound that a transformer makes.
The tomahawk sounded like that when it went off.

JDAMs, artillery, all that shit sounds digital and weird when you’re close to it.

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Not that you have me thinking about being danger close to missiles, I once called for air danger close, Congressman John James (long knife something) came flying in and put a hellfire maybe 250m from me.
Same digital sound.

True story.

>>64962485
Who cares if they flub it? They're trying their dammdest to do it and even a failed nuke landing somewhere the US cares about is not acceptable. The fact remains we had a deal and a very important part of that deal was they not pursue weapons grade enrichment, yet here we are with Iran claiming enrichment well and above any needed for energy production swearing they're gud bois who dindu nuffin with one side of their mouths while the other threatens eventual nuclear hellfire as soon as they finish. We tried negotiating, they wanted to measure dicks because the global south chose them as this week's strongman after Russia's fuck up and now they're going to get apefucked into the dirt.

>>64956504
It's had a number of upgrades over the years

>>64963674
Looked up his record in congress.
Seems like a decent guy, and he saved an anon's ass too?

Awrite.

>>64962505
I made defense components today, bitch. You did nothing but rage on the internet, whilst being too stupid to realize you were losing the arguments you chose to engage in.
Suck my thick White cock.

>>64962513
*Cough *cough
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_affair

>>64963611
Neato. Best I've got is a basic story. Curse of neverdeployed
>getting geared up for FTX
>get told it's war out there, be ready for anything
>bus out, get initial movements to patrol base locations
>shortly after, 1st Platoon radios in to TOC saying they found and IED and requesting support
>radioman relays it to cadre
>"we didn't set up any IEDs"
>...
>*click*
>8 fucking drill sergeants dogpile through the windows of a pickup truck and go tearing down the road
>82mm mortar shell just lying out in the middle of the woods
credit where it's due, they set up their 300m perimeter and didn't throw fucking rocks at it

>>64964017
Rock, paper, scissors to see who gets to light it off with the .50

>>64956512
You can replace every component, Including the hull on a ship and it stays the same designation in the registry.

>>64961818
I want it to happen to every school in israel. And NYC. And San Fran.
I still don't really care that it happened in Iran.
Fuck them kids.

>>64961883
You are talking to a bot, you stupid faggot.

>>64964006
>NUMEC
yeah so who's NUMEC in this case? that was a case of Israel lying that they had uranium when they didn't?
or are you trying to say that Iran is NUMEC and they might be lying that they have uranium to cover up for having passed it to someone else?

>>64960265
Anon, the problem is that it's disadvantageous to bomb schoolchildren. This isn't a matter of being some kind of bleeding heart, there are very real operational benefits to not killing schoolchildren.
If your goal is to neutralize Iran as a threat, you shouldn't antagonize the common people. They're not involved. One of the reasons for American success were their efforts to make people like them. A civilian population that supports what you are doing is infinitely easier to handle than one whose school-aged daughter you turned into paste. And even a single incident like this can have consequences for decades to come.

There is no excuse for this sort of nonsense.
Of course, there is still a chance that Israel did it.

>>64963644
Go to a doctor and figure out a program to delay dementia. You're probably in a highest risk group.

>>64963996
I hope you're not engaged in production of something critical, retard faggot.

>>64964064
Ritter pls

>>64964682
>bla bla bla
big pile of disingenuous claptrap to disguise that you insist that all US/Israeli bombs are 100% accurate 100% of the time and always and only hit the intended target

>>64964759
Yes, so we need to discuss the question of target selection rather than whether it was an accident or not. And killing schoolgirls is generally not gonna help you win a war and will probably make winning harder.

>>64964769
the only thing you need to do is suckstart a shotgun, shitskin

>>64964769
No, that school strike, whether it happened or not, has changed nothing.

>>64964782
But it has.
It makes the situation as perceived in Iran very different. It's a signal to both the government and the people that this war is different.
It's a war of annihilation. There is no real operational objectives beyond killing Iranianis.

And that's as good a war to wage as any, I'm no bleeding heart who cares much about people's lives.
But it means you open yourself up to extremely severe retaliation and this is what we see now. Iran targetting the US and Israel where it hurts, the oil trade. They're primarily going after refining capabilities in the region and oil logistics. Lloyd's has stopped insuring ships going through the straight entirely.
This is very bad for everyone.

>>64964833
You know nothing about what Iranians think, you mindless shill. Cry more crocodile tears pls.

>>64964876
I know what they're doing.
They are reacting to this offensive in a very different way compared to previous attacks, meaning their thoughts on what this air campaign is about are different.

I don't really see how that make me a shill or wrong. But your incessant defense of Israel's nonsense war makes me wonder. Are you a shill?
Denounce the Talmud.

>>64964833
>israel gets most of its actionable intel on targets from iranian citizens
Yeah i dont think they give a shit about the irgc

>>64956504
Missile lifecycles are long.
Engineering is complicated and expensive.
There is only so much you can improve about a missile, at some point, any further optimizations have a significant additional cost but only diminishing returns.

>>64964883
Oh great more /pol/ tards that live in there fantasy land if America was waging a war of genocide there wouldn't be any one left in Iran now go back to crying over every mudshits corpse faggot.

>>64964980
>>64964901
Jews.

>>64965037
no, we're just not retarded contrarians.
i don't have to slobber mudslime crotch like you do just to hate jews, you servile little faggot.

>>64965088
denounce the talmud

>>64964833
This typing style is straight from r*ddit.

>>64964833
>severe retaliation
>Attacking everyone around them and barley touching US assets.
Yeah yeah sure
>Muh oil
America is fine. If we ever truly need oil we will build more refineries and ramp up our own oil production.

>>64965877
>America is fine. If we ever truly need oil we will build more refineries and ramp up our own oil production.
They need Canada and Mexico for energy too. Not those countries will refuse to sell at any price, especially these prices, but damn it's probably tempting after the shit fits America was throwing

>>64965877
>America is fine.
America is not fine
Do you know what a "market" is? If everyone is willing to buy oil and oil products at a 50% markup, why shouldn't you sell it at that 50% markup?

The problem isn't the physical oil, not really. It's the pricing pressure.

>>64964759
The fact that two tomahawks hit it is pretty strong evidence that it was an intended target.

>>64965102
what's in it for me?

>>64964876
I don't know if this is just being edgy on the internet, true soulless golem incel type thoughts or infowar damage control.

It does not compute that the (accidental) killing of 160 schoolgirls isn't at absolute minimum a welcome recruitment tool for the IRGC.

There's no way, especially in a religious society like Iran that this hasn't generated immense hatred toward the US. The semantics of how much of it is natural and what is amplified locally in Iranian media as propaganda doesn't really matter.
I just now I'd fucking flip shit if out of nowhere some random school blew up. Like I would not be receptive to this line of "oh but remember how America executed a coup 80 years ago so you can understand where they are coming from". And I don't know any father who'd react differently if that was their kid.

People will talk about
>muh schoolgirls
for decades because Iran is getting it's shit rocked. Meanwhile all the footage of anti-government protested getting mowed down by the hundreds is long forgotten because America bad. It's war, people die, unintended or not.

>>64966697
oy gewalt

>>64966676
that's not the same as insisting that a bunch of schoolgirls was the intended target, retard
did they intend to strike the building? obviously
did they know it was a school? obviously not

>>64967708
maybe they should check first

>>64967021
>we're saving you from your mass murdering regime
>by bombing your schools
that'll get them on your side for sure

>>64967829
and how would you know they didn't?
you've never made a mistake ever in your life ever, eh? all your fuckups were intentional?

>>64967833
>assumption of intentionality
fuck off, shitskin

>>64967835
they should do a better job of checking these things

>>64967842
no doubt we all want 100% perfection
but it's not possible
it's enough to be ahead of the turdies
100% perfection is only a benchmark demanded by turdies to force us not to bomb them; it is inherently hypocritical as they themselves happily warcrime all day e'er day

fucking hell, the concept of a "warcrime" and a "just war" is white Christian to begin with

>>64967874
sorry I'm not just going to shrug my shoulders and say shit happens
I hope the people that okayed this have trouble sleeping at night
This was avoidable and we can do better

>>64967882
unless you live a perfect life yourself, you're just being a hypocrite

>>64967897
I don't make decisions about firing cruise missiles at schools. I hold those that do to a higher standard.

>>64967835
>what is wag the dog
>what is diversionary war theory
>what is scapegoating

You people can't be this dumb.
Fathers of dead kids are not receptive to an historical analysis of decades of US-Iran relations. They're gonna shelf their disagreement over the inflation for the forseeable future and instead volunteer to fight americans.

>>64967902
>>64967963
>never lift a finger to defend yourself unless you can hold yourself to an impossibly higher standard that nobody else can achieve
exactly how shitskins want to disarm us

>>64968051
>defend yourself
lmao no

>>64968051
>defend yourself
Kind of hard to argue self defense against school children 10000 miles away but ok.

My point was that in order to stoke a popular uprising against an oppressive regime killing the children of the people you want to convince is not a good strategy. But who knows, maybe step 2 is dropping leaflets with a risk assessment scoring spreadsheet.

Surely the iranians will turn on their regime once they know their kids died after the US military did their due diligence and not through negligence.