if you don't have hardened hangars, you WILL die
>>64964595Someday this war's gonna end.
>>64964595what munitions are that? enough to destroy the aircraft obviously but the blast doesn't seem that large
>>64964602Probably SDBs
>>64964606interesting, thanks
>>64964595>>64964599I love the sight of wings collapsing in the morning.
>>64964595>full of gas, allOof
>>64964606We're not using SDBs if we're at the point of using B-52s. In a totally permissive environment, it would be a waste of advanced munitions that we could save for China.>>64964602It's just JDAMs. Not even glide kit JDAMs. Just simple laser/GPS guidance kits. We have 6 figure stockpiles of these and they would have limited usefulness in a near peer conflict. May as well dump them in Iran.
>>64964595If you're brown you die in any case.
If you have things in hardened hangars they will still die, but the enemy will have to use slightly heavier bombs and they might waste some ammo on unoccupied shelters.
>>64964748Not strictly related, but the way that the American JDAM and the Australian JDAM-ER looking halfway respectable despite being bolted onto a bomb not meant for them while the current Russian glide kits look like they were made by a guy in a bike shop who had a glide bomb described to them is funny to me in a way I can't really place.
>>64964748>SDB>advanced munition>useful against chinaWtf are you talking about. It's a tiny glide bomb, clearly a stand in weapon by any reasonable standard.
>>64964766They include thermal sensors and smart guidance packages that increase the cost more than you think. Unit cost of an sdb-39 is 40k, while the JDAM is 21k. We have such complete air dominance that we don't need to expend SDBs. It's a waste for such a large bombing campaign against such a toothless enemy.
>>64964748>Just simple laser/GPS guidance kits. We have 6 figure stockpiles of theseNone of the freaking out about stockpiles is relevant to anything. Such people freak out about by default and find a justification later. The truth is we need to actually push units to find out where the vulnerabilities lie or our stockpiles will mean nothing. EG Western artillery production gaining urgency after the Ukraine war showed how unprepared it was.
>Maneuvers micro sub compact carrier drone deployed spark ignition drone into fuel and flammable fluids inside hanger....
>>64964748The whole damn point of the sbd is to be a cheap, available pgm on the same level of the JDAM, but not tied to a finite stockpile if cold war iron bombsThey're perfect for any target where a JDAM sized bomb is overkill
SHE WAS ONE OF A KIND
>>64964816Every since their airforce got clapped it was only a matter of time desu
>>64964595Hey thats a russian flag on the il76
>>64964811Your coping is utterly pathetic.
>>64964748>China China China!its all so tiring
>>64964784Basic GBU-39 is INS/GPS only. Laser and thermal are addon kits.
>>64964595>if you don't have hardened hangars, you WILL dieWell this is why Iran put ballistic missiles and drones Into underground tunnels and it's working.
>>64965016They must be launching hundreds a day!
>>64965024Not hundreds but without them they would be launching zero.
>>64965009>Basic GBU-39 is INS/GPS onlyThat's actually the one I pulled the 40k number from. The gbu-53 is 195-220k per unit. I'll quote the 2021 prices from this link for the thread. Would appreciate it if someone could find more recent prices.https://www.twz.com/32277/here-is-what-each-of-the-pentagons-air-launched-missiles-and-bombs-actually-cost>GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) (Air Force) – $39,000. This unit price is an average for the entire projected 2021 Fiscal Year order, which may include the GBU-39A/B Focused Lethality Munition (FLM) variants, which has a special carbon fiber body intended to reduce the chance of collateral damage, and GBU-39B/B Laser SDBs.>GBU-53/B StormBreaker/Small Diameter Bomb II (SDB II) (Air Force) – $195,000>GBU-53/B StormBreaker/Small Diameter Bomb II (SDB II) (Navy) – $220,916>Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) (Air Force) – $21,000>Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) (Navy) – $22,208>These are the unit prices for orders in the base budget. These unit prices are also averages for the entire projected 2021 Fiscal Year orders for both services and apply to the JDAM guidance kits only for 500, 1,000, and 2,000-pound class bombs.
>>64964984Show radars, shows open straight, show non crashed fuel plane kek
>>64965029>hehe our stuff is inside a hangar and we can use it without being bombed larping is all browns can do. Fighting is another problem, that's why there will be no revolt in Iran, they are all just larping on Instagram but I'm pretty sure nobody will take guns against the police and the current government will just suck the US dick and everything will go back to normal
>>64965032Averaging the FLM and laser variants skews things because neither have reached economy of scale yet. In any case, though, the bomb in that video wasn't a JDAM. A Mk 82 hit looks like this:https://youtu.be/anC1uWPW9Xo?t=392
>>64964595for me, it's floppy hangers
>>64965055Some of the explosions did look like that to me, actually. I thought a few of the explosions looked to be too large for an SDB.
So the "painted decoys" cope is dead, yes?
>>64965087Unless they're making 1:1 scale decoys with actual metal construction, fuel, and hydraulic systems I think it's safe to say it's as dead as three ayatollahs.
>>64965038>straight
>>64964824Good spot. Howling.
>>64965087I'm sure there have been some painted decoys out there, the USAF strikes me as the kind of organisation that bombs everything just to be sure
>park your plains in the openMissiles get them>park your planes inside hangarsMissiles will just blow up the hangars>park your planes undergroundMissiles will just fuck up the runways so they can't take offYou're fucked anyways.
>>64965112No, it's just it's a word that has been written hundreds if not thousands of times over the last two weeks and you still cannot spell STRAIT.
>>64964995This whole war in Iran is happening to get Iran out of the way before the war for Taiwan starts in 2027.
>>64964824are you sure? VKS planes have also have the red star emblem which that plane is lacking
>>64965212Ministry of Emergency Situations craft.
>>64965134>agent orange giving a shit about TaiwanThis is your brain on copium
>>64964595Iran doesnt need no planes.Mines, missiles and drones are more than enough to humiliate US and Israel.
>>6496527620% of China's oil came from Venezuela and Iran in 2025, and it was paid for at 50% below market rates. The pieces are being assembled.
>>64965279
>>64965306Its the truth, though. Calling me brown wont solve anything.
>>64964784There are Laser only, GPS / INS only, Laser & GPS / INS, Laser & Optical and also Laser, GPS / INS & Optical versions.Laser, GPS / INS & Optical was the first version with the hope that economies of scale would make them cheap but when it was clear that wasn't going to happen the other versions were made.
>>64965315
>>64965087Some painted decoys were hit, do you understand multiple things can be true?
>>64965326I wish browns were permanently banned from posting in 4chan. >Muh mines, muh drones, muh strait
>>64965322>Some painted decoys were hitWere they? Like do we have any proof of that? Because the arguments were "why nothing blew apart like in movies", yet basic googling showed that uber small missiles were used and somehow the fireball from explosion managed to get _beneath_ the "painted decoys" kek.
>>64965328No arguments.
>>64965336There were a couple of photos of F-4s pained on the ramp with one having been hit.It's hard to tell these days but it didn't look AI with little details like the concrete cracking.
For me it's the GBU-12.
>>64965369500 pound Paveways have peak aesthetics without the excessive bloat of larger bombs.
>>64965276cope chang
>>64964635Are planes usually drained of fuel when parked?
>>64965777Planes use a lot of fuel and often land close to empty, they aren't drained but ground fuel state needs to be decided.>fill them up when they land>can be scrambled faster>more likely to be completely destroyed by small arms or drones>fill them up just before takeoff>takes longer to get them into the air>more likely for parts to be salvageable as spares even if damage destroys the airframe
>>64964624>I savour the sight of wings afire in the dawn's breaking light.Use some poetry anon, the occasion calls for the $5 words.
>>64964816>>64964821Was that the QF-33 or something?
>>64965045>everything will go back to normalIn the meantime your government is stealing from you to pay for hideously expensive military operations that have nothing to do with your or your countrymens interests
>>64965276Blumpf will do what his handlers tell him to do
>>64965777Yes and no.Practice is to drain them because reasons. But planes fuel tanks have complex configuration and 5-10% fuel cant be drained and is left as remains.
>>64965087Should be still going on /pol/ and russian bot overrun twitter info bubbles. Last i have seen was some ai bullshit video of iran making sand castles in the form of planes and then spray painting them.
>>64964748>SDB>advanced munitionshow to say you have no clue what you're talking about without saying you have no clue what you're talking about
>>64965880>russia road tax but no roads
>>64965920Kek I've seen that one. Who do thirdies think they're fooling with this shit? Is it really enough to fool them, or is it some "you know we're lying, and we know you know, and you know that we know that you know" things?
>>64964595>You just die when someone has any form of air superiority over you and good PGMs.
>>64965087Nah turdies will just keep spewing bullshit out. /pol/ is practically a /leftypol/ colony at this point.
>>64965839Last of some special 747s from what I've heard
>>64967083this.US didn't invest in any hardened hangars near Iran. instead the US dispersed their aircrafts far away from Iran.
>>64964595wronghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_air_campaign#Iraq's_air_force_units_flight_to_Iran>The first week of the air war saw a few Iraqi sorties, but these did little damage, and 36 Iraqi fighter aircraft were shot down by Coalition planes. Soon after, the Iraqi Air Force began fleeing to Iran, with 115 to 140 aircraft flown there.[45] This mass exodus of Iraqi aircraft took coalition forces by surprise, as the Coalition had been expecting them to flee to Jordan, a nation friendly to Iraq, rather than Iran, a long-time enemy. As the purpose of the war was to destroy Iraq militarily, the coalition placed aircraft over western Iraq to try to stop any retreat into Jordan. This meant they were unable to react before most of the Iraqi aircraft made it safely to Iranian airbases.[46]so a competent Iranian Air Force could have just fled to Russia.
>>64964758>>64967083The Norks tiny Mig-29 force for defending Pyongyang is inside a mountain with a full sized runway that runs through it and has several openings and exits, that is probably the best you could do. Even then they basically built a miniture version of NORAD just to delay US strategic bombing missions over their capital for a week or so while they throw everything they have south. Unless there is a secret airstrip going through Mount Yamantau that no one has ever seen from orbit that is about the best you can do with ground protection for aircraft unless there is a squadron of Po-2's hidden under the lobby of the Ryugyong Hotel.**4-5 squadrons would fit, pic related is one of the three domed sub lobbies before you get to the main lobby which may or may not exist. The building is probably 90% concrete, crooked elevators and VERY long staircases.
>>64967432>crooked elevatorsYou mean funiculars?Or do they dog leg with swapping elevators because they can't make one shaft go the full height?
How does this open the strait?
>>64967687How is attacking civilian freighers going to defeat the USAF?
>>64967700It's the same grand strategy they used when they attacked their neighbors.>defeatDefeat? Not part of the plan!
>>64966971You're daft if you think SDBs aren't advanced munitions.
>>64967700Higher gas prices mean less support for the war, less support for the war means that the US will give up, just like in Vietnam or Afghanistan.
>>64967700Did you learn nothing from Iraq Afghanistan and Vietnam? Why would defeating America's military be a goal when history has shown you don't need to do that in order to make America withdraw, you just need to convince the people at home the wars not worth the cost
>coming in at an angel to avoid the hardened roof DISHONORABLE
>>64967729there's one problem with that strategy
>>64967724You must be brown, America won in Vietnam and Afghanistan
>>64967741 (me)
>>64967729>AfghanistanYeah sure.>VietnamNo? Our win in Vietnam may have been ruined temporarily by political failures, but Vietnam now makes our clothes and hosts our McDonalds and is altogether more aligned with the US than China or Russia.The victory was delayed, not stolen.
>>64967741Why would I care about dead browns?
>>64967750Would of saved a lot of suffering if you just cooperated with ho chi minh in the first place if you are now going to cope about the communist government being on your side anyway
>>64967757Sure it would have. But history didn't work out that way, did it?Also I accept your concession as to my point since you're agreeing with me on who actually came out ahead (not Russia or China).
>>64967754I'm not saying you should, retard. I'm saying that the "America will leave eventually" strategy is stupid because significantly more of them will die than us. it's not worth it.
>>64967767Unfortunately, turdies don't care. Their unironic victory condition is>if I'm still alive, I win!even if it means they're living in caves for the next decade or 2.
>>64967757The French threatened to leave if we did and at the time we hadn't realized yet that that would just be a bonus.
>>64967773>living in cavesLiving in Europe/Anglo sphere country like the subhuman parasites they are*
>>6496503240k isn’t that expensive. Sdb also gets a value advantage When you start including flight hour costs comparing 1x kill with a single mk83/84 on a pylon vs potentially 4 with sdbs
>>64967724This isn't going to work.
>>64967432Going with a mountain is better for being PGM resistance but that means the strikes are concentrate to the exits/entrances. It'll buy more time at least to anything less than an IAF or USAF class opponent but against those the amount of time bought is little.
Did Iran even bother to use decoys
>>64965024The strait must be open by now.
>>64968063that really is the only cope you have, isn't it?
>>64967432I have this intense urge to fly an F-16 through here
>>64967745Holy cope.
>>64968066Control of the strait is the entire point of the war at this point
>>64968097I thought the point was to build nukes, destroy Israel, and start Armageddon. Did Iran not accomplish that?
>>64968119No they were quite clear about their goals when they announced just yesterday that they would block the strait until all American bases in the region are closed.
>>64968132>they were quite clear about their goals>announced just yesterday
>>64965055Well we see in the videos that lasers are being used. So it's probably an LJDAM. The SDB typically comes in a bit slower than the projectiles we can see in the videos, too.
>>64968133Yes. The regime is fighting for its survival. They have a clear strategy for how exactly they're going to accomplish that, by closing the strait and making the war too costly to the American public. I don't get whats so difficult to grasp about this.
>>64964595USAF in the pacific theater disagrees.
>>64968142In what way is what you just said a reply to what he wrote? I get you disagree with him, but do you actually think you are engaging in good faith?
>>64964603>forcedforced, he says.
>>64968077Coward, fly a real airplane:
Did we ever get pictures of their silly little carrier getting sunk?
>>64968164>>64938724
>>64968151I don't really care for his constant need to shift the goalposts and pretend irans strategy isn't clear, they made it clear through their actions and words. All I want to know is how bombing parked planes will open the strait
>>64968179>constant need to shift the goalposts>>64968132>their goals when they announced just yesterday
>>64968029It seemed to be working for awhile. Sending marines to take kharg island might stop that.
>>64964595>pinpoint strikes on the central loadbearing portions of the wing roots, causing immediate and catastrophic failure of the entire structure and total loss of the aircraft>now in 4K UHDJust think what could have been if the DoD got the funding it's wanted the last ten years.
>>64968193Are you just pretending closing the strait has nothing to do with irans strategy?
>>64968202are you retarded or just a hypocrite? you're the one shifting the goal posts.
>>64968201How would more money make this better? Most of the DoD can't finish an audit, giving someone that's so irresponsible with money more of it isn't going to make them better. If there isn't a clear causal relationship established, you might as well just burn it.
>>64968229Bro, America doesn't know how to win a war and refuse to learn any strategy other than: "more firepower" which is why they seem to get bogged down in forever wars.
>>64968248Wrong. Nation building was the problem. We're not interested in nation building anymore.
>>64968283How else does one country impose it's will on another then? Why was Iraq a success?If we're no longer interested in nation building,then why bother with the military except as a deterrent and as a social program?
>>64967735>When you find out the chastity belt only covers half.
>>64968308>Iraq>Success
>>64968321Great, why was Iraq not a success then?
>>64968198That is the right move for the USA. Take it, fortify then dictate their exports.
>>64968325That will be the great internal uprising that America promoted then didn't support that got a lot of people un-alived and led to having to do it all again.
>>64968353Presuming that the Iranians don't blow it up before as a way to counter the invasion of kharg. It sounds illogical now but we've seen similar tactics in Gulf war 1.
>>64968321I'm sorry, I forgot that the Iraq government is still there when they were freed by the US and we still have bases there. Maybe the shill is confusing it with Afghanistan
>>64967724Higher prices over a long enough period will bring alot more US production plays online, especially anything that needs fracking. Canadian shale toot. Permian Basin geo
>>64968372As I understand it, exploration and opening new production has been limited while the price is under 80$. However doing so usually takes awhile and they won't start until they're sure that the price will stay that high for the foreseeable future. Which means that while we will hear rumors of opening new fields in the near term, nothing significant will happen until after a few months (due to risk aversion, bureaucratic inertia etc).am I wrong? My info is somewhat out of date but in principle I don't think I'm too far off.t. retired captain of an offshore survey ship.
>>64968389I dont know about off shore. I work SE New Mexico and parts of West Texas. We had a meeting yesterday and the general consenus was "elevated prices over 10 weeks" is what would bring alot of wells into production. Another 3 or 4 weeks and alot more would be pumping. Everyone has the lease sites and equipment, its all about the price and how long it *might* stay elevated.Kind of why this kind of work sucks, feast or famine. I want to go work water and brackish lolPays abit less but way more steady
>>64968355>that got a lot of people un-alivedwhat are you, five? just say killed you rotted nigger
>>6496840410 weeks makes sense, I think it's reasonable to assume that this will be the play if the Iranians continue their blockade and the war continues.
>>64968151>In what way is what you just said a reply to what he wrote?
>>64968414Saying "un-alive" is more fun Like "ahh"
>>64968443But we like when they mass murder brownoids, that’s why we keep voting for them.
>>64968443you can't even even say kill, you little faggotnobody cares if browns die either way
>>64968443>fuckhead
*ahem**Clears his throat without using an Andy Stixx meme*Read this.:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2096519223014982https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264817220305146
>>64968142> They have a clear strategy> a clear strategy> strategySpamming drones at oil tankers is literally the ONLY OPTION Iran has.
>>64965835>he doesn't get it
>>64965351Where are the pictures?
>>64968359Blow up an island?
>>64968501I got the apocnow reference, it's just boring.
>>64968553The whole thing, yeah. It's one big red barrel.
>>64967083you don't need air superiority.you just need missiles or drones.
>>64968443So which bombed-out shithole are you from?
>>64969151This old retard is worse than a teenager when it comes to social media
>>64964748Those clearly aren't 500lb bombs, though; 50-100lbs of HE at best, maybe even less than that. A 500lb bomb wouldn't leave a largely intact fuselage.
>>64968077>I have this intense urge to fly an F-16 through hereTrigger is built different.
>>64965865>feyadeen
>>64964995Shut the fuck up, chink scum.
>>64965276We don't give a shot about a tiny island of chinks. We do care very much about the advanced chip factories. We will bomb them ourselves before we let the commies have them.
>>64970484Yeap, I'd agree with that, definitely not 500lb'ers and much, much smaller than that, even smaller than SDB etc, so some very lightweight "drone capable" bomb.
>>64970523>My ex-wife was like that, she'd seethe about stuff and shout until she ran out of stuff to be mad about, storm out, return again and shout more and do this repeatedly for an hour or so.you really didn't figure out she's mental BEFORE you put a ring on her?
>>64970503The Darth Vader helmets are immortal.
>>64970523That is such a weirdly specific fantasy about murdering the President. I think you and your ex might be equally fucked in the head.
>>64970737>you really didn't figure out she's mental BEFORE you put a ring on her?When you're looking through rose-coloured glasses, the red flags are just flags.She was very manipulative, at that time I still thought she told the truth about things.>>64970786>That is such a weirdly specific fantasy about murdering the PresidentI just think the man cannot not try to have the last word about anything. I imagine him slamming his smartphone down on the desk after pressing submit.
US should start making daily lists of destroyed iranian assets and share footage of killed brownoids, /pig/ needs to be like /uhg/ where mulipolars seethe and cope without end their "strongest" nation was worth jack and shit. Also jannies taking comfy-pig was amusing.
>>64968321Yes you faggot. They're not invading Saudi Arabia and Kuwait again any time soon.
>>64971125>They still kicked the US out of their country by forceThis is the part that's a lie though. You sneak this lie in and mask it with the truth that the war was a net failure that didn't result in the desired outcomes. Stop being a snake.
>>64964595HAS don't help against PGMsagile combat employment is the future, a combination of multiple methods
>>64970537I wonder... Griffin, maybe? SGM (I didn't see wings, though)? Surely APKWS would be too small to tear apart the wing boxes like that?I do remember some folks here talking several years ago about a limited-run tiny LGB used in the sandbox for danger-close CAS. The posters loved it, but seemed fairly certain that no more were going to be made. I think it was something like a 100lb bomb with a tiny HE charge, but I cannot for the life of me remember what the designation was.I'd almost say this was something Israeli, but they tend to blur their footage when they release it.
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>>64971949Ironic
>>64971169the US is still in Iraq, they stopped occupying the country because the Iraqi government is both friendly and capable of standing on its own
>>64967716SDBs are considered advanced munitions if you come from the thirdworld perhaps. it's literally just a fuse, gps + ins.
>>64972115actually it was several quadrillions
>>64968440Eat shit and die, normalfag.
>>64971169Attrition is not the proper term.
>>64972114Its always amusing how browns and third worlders project their primitive understanding of the world and their own feudal societal structure on everyone else.>big skygod is powerful, tiny hat man use trick, make skygod attack poor village
>>64968443>called out for being a toddler >instant meltie
>>64967432serbia had something like this underground airbase, its farely cursed now, full of booby traps and toxic waste.
>>64972162You should try saying once more for good measure, maybe you could convince yourself.
>>64968443>"mass murdering fuckhead"based
>>64972903>late reply patting some loser who got dunked on the backthis is 99% of the time the same loser who got dunked on in the first place samefagging in order to pretend he has a friend.
>>64972917no, I'm saying our leader being a "mass murdering fuckhead" is based. bombing browns is based.
>>64971467Something like a mam-l?
>>64964824Da fuq is lil vladdy gonna do?
>seething zigger shills ITTJust remind them that the West will be destroyed in two more cardboard Ayatollah’s
>>64964595RIP to that Herc and Orion. Their only mistake was being bought by an unstable government 40+ years ago.
>>64972162I think you are talking to multiple people.
>>64968077>>64968162I think I played that game on the Wii
>>64973497da fuck going on here?
>>64972162>hates jews>says they are superior to everyoneWhy are they like this?
>>64973827ac-130 shooting
>>64973906I thought it was just diving into the ground due to the angle kek
>>64968162Your obsession with this shitheap is pathetic
>>64971467It's hellfire or GBU-12
>>64968369The Iraqi government are Shia aligned with Iran that want Americans out of their country.
>>64972117>mfw seeing someone getting this worked up over a wordUh, is (You) good, unc?
>>64974320>uncstop appropriating my peoples culture
>>64973497Why does it have a thermal stripe on the side of the fuselage?
>>64965328Fag
>>64974351I think its exhaust from the APU.
>>64974351
>>64973586I miss pilot wings, this is shit in comparison.
>>64974320That part.
>>64974320I fear unc is crashing out
>>64965109>park your planes underground>Missiles will just fuck up the runways so they can't take offExcept you can temp repair runways in as little as 2hours with the right type of material
>>64974351Heat exchanger for the AC.
>>64970484Some of the explosions look pretty 500lb to me.
>>64964748>In a totally permissive environmentF18s are using guns against ground targets.The US/Israeli pilots clearly don't even fear MANPADS any more.
>>64978615Oh my God, you actually fell for that AI clip, didn't you?
>>64964595Show some F-14s going boom.
>>64982330>Show some F-14s going boom.That happened during the 12 day war, I'm not sure any survived to this one.
>>64978109that's just flir exaggerating explosions.look at the damage after. none look like 500lb.
>>64968460they could try to wreck the Israeli nuclear stockpile, launchers and production capacity if things get worse for them
>>64982400I dunno, still looks like 500lbs for some of them. Are you sure you know what such bombs can do? We can also see a plunging, JDAM sized projectile as well in those clips. SDBs would be coming in with wings extended.
>>64982418No they couldn't Iran is barely able to sink slow moving vessels in a narrow passage they don't have the accuracy for small targets that far away.
>>64982418nigga u serious?
>>64982418best they can do is launch cluster missiles on population centers
>>64965087It's not a cope liars mot.west you idiots had hit is decoys
>>64983759Could you rewrite that in English please?
>>64983759Stay mad Mr esl, just like you did in that other thread
>>64968162You're not a real man sir deballed the testiclees. THIS, IS A REAL PLANE
>>64964595
I see you are still coping about your war being an even bigger embarrassment than Russia's failure in Ukraine, lol. China is laughing their asses off. They won't even have to fight the US, they can just wait for it to implode. Now I don't like China but they appear the only ones who aren't stupid. Russia is Russia, the US is retarded, Europe are pussies.
>>64964599RIP Killy (Bob Duvall) :(
>>64982443footage is from a reaper. look at the hud and compare to picrel.a reaper carries hellfires, not jdams nor sdbs.
>>64985504I really wish we'd just nuke the Iranians and start bombing there water ways just to watch you faggots seeth.
>>64985504>Now I don't like China butMan, so many shill posts start that way.
>>64985664Further to that, the US is bullying mine laying boats for some reason.This clearly shows OP's HUD with what is definitely not a winged bomb and is definitely some kind of PGM.I'm going with Hellfire in the absence of better guesses.
>>64985504>Pretending like China isnt purging people left and right after realizing they cant stop Americans from bombing themChina will do nothing and hope for the best, thats all they can do.
>>64985750>China will do nothing and hope for the best, thats all they can do.NTA but a country ruled by a communist party can *always* find the time for a good purge.You think Xi looks at the clock and says:>nah, this isn't purge-o'clock, Mao wouldn't approve
>>64967676Both! The elavators curve a bit since it is 'slightly' crooked, the edges of the pyramid have funiculars as well which are not crooked. The handful of floors that are open to the public have little steps and have slightly lower than expected ceilings where they had to level out the floor. There was a minor issue when it was made; they made it as a monolitic structure so it is so heavy it crushed the bedrock a bit making it a noticably tilted. There may have also been a minor issue where it crushed the first sunbway station they tried to build under it.It is really intresting since they built it like a flak tower, if you look at the pictures of it under construction you can see there are no rooms inside the wings their cores are solid. They wanted it to last forever so they used really good concrete, it is good enough that it is an embargoed item since it gets used for bunkers. It is entirely possible that 1000 years from now it will still be there mostly intact. Almost every rational plan for a ground invasion of the city includes a line that amounts to 'oh fucking hell no' when the idea of trying to take it comes up. In a urban fight it would massively complicate operations. Ukraine would love having it Kiev, it would make for the greatest flak tower in human history and just having it there tanking half a dozen ballistic missiles every day for months on end would be helpful.
>>64964595Fun fact: You'll still die even with hardened hangars.
>>64968029We’ll make it work.
>>64965880Stop trying to bring the war in under budget. The US has literally infinite money and complete control of world trade and finance, it doesn't matter how much we spend if it just strengthens that control.
>>64968308>How else does one country impose its will on another then?By killing everybody, destroying everything and laughing while the remaining citizens starve to death and beg for food on live television.
>>64965835>The Dodo at dawn>His envy of the sparrow>Lifts my heart aloft
>>64964599Which war?
>>64989586How much they print to pay for their pet wars literally steals our purchasing power from us retard. Unless you are a zoomer retard that doesn't remember how much cheaper everything besides TVs was 20 years ago you have no excuse for not knowing this.
>>64992201>Brownoid ESL
>>64992210Yeah you're just a fucking retard shilling against your own interests then. Dumbass.
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>>64992229I think you're running into a pro-war shill like IDF.You're not wrong but the cost-benefit of eliminating a dictatorship and freeing the way for a potential democracy cannot be overstated.I don't know if world-peace is ever possible but if it is, it will be after the last dictatorship has fallen.
>>64992269That's a phallacy. You don't need a dictator to subject a population to an authoritarian government. Look at England or Scotland as an example
>>64992277>You don't need a dictator to subject a population to an authoritarian government. I suppose technically that's true but in practice it's dictators who are always...>Look at England or Scotland as an exampleOh.Actually I hate to agree with the IDF in >>64992210 and >>64992234 but they might be on to something with you.
>>64992269That other poster is not me but I'll call you a retard too for thinking democracy building in some sandy shithole is worth further impoverishing my people
>>64992296nta but he's right. In excess of 12,000 people were arrested last year for things they posted online. That's ~30 or more arrests per day. Even if you factor in the number of people arrested for things we both agree are crimes (terroristic threats or whatever) to retrograde that number, that's certainly authoritarian.
>>64992310>democracy building in some sandy shithole is worth further impoverishing my peopleIt's ok, it's only impoverishing americans and they not only afford it, will ultimately profit by it, they're not your people either.>>64992311>In excess of 12,000 people were arrested last year for things they posted onlineAssuming I buy your numbers, which I don't because you sound like a /pol/tard (please don't start posting /pol/ infographics to /k/ which is a weapons board), how many were tortured and/or executed?Because that's what we're fighting against.
>>64992403They are my people and they deserve basic things like healthcare, functional infrastructure, and politicians loyal to the country they live in before Iranians deserve democracy delivered via million dollar munitions you faggot chickenhawk shill, the scale of poverty and economic precarity in this country makes yet another $200 billion SMO just totally unconscionable. If you think Iranians need "democracy" so badly why don't you move to Tehran and shill for it there, you'll be used to the weather as it's mostly the same as Tel Aviv.
>>64994140maybe you should ask "your" government why the DOD is the only federal branch that delivers results with its 2.9% GDP
>>64994205What fucking results? Every conflict the US has gotten mired in for the last 80 years has had poor outcomes and done precisely nothing to improve the lives of average Americans. The entire MIC is just a grifting platform for the political class, the postal service does more for taxpayers than every branch of the military combined.
>>64994231>done precisely nothing to improve the lives of average AmericansDestroying the IRGC is a net positive for humanity, which US tax payers are members of.It's even a direct benefit to them as well and you're going to find that other than some noise intended to move the needle for the midterms, that this is a bipartisan goal.The average US citizen, in so much as such a thing exists, benefits from the world being a better, more peaceful place.To get there, some arseholes in Iran have to explode and that's in progress.That will cost some money, some political capital and potentially some lives. This is understood, that's why sacrifices are honoured by the US, they practically have a cult about it.And this is nothing compared to the cost of Gulf War 1&2 and Afghanistan, they can easily afford it.And the money wouldn't have gone to social services anyway but you know that.You're a dishonest shill arguing for a Russian ally to be allowed to continue fighting the west and nobody is falling for it.
>>64974409That's for a P3 Orion, C-130 APU is located on it's bulge.
>>64994249You are foreigner shilling for a war you have no stake in and you speak like a wannabe politician. >dishonestPure projection when you are the one cribbing phony decades old talking points about world peace like you actually believe that horseshit. I am merely expressing the common and intuitive position that the US government should prioritize the real interests of its own people. I hope Russia swallows your shithole country alive purely out of spite for your dogshit posts.
>>64994231Done nothing? Are you seriously suggesting that executing a couple million aggressive ragheads wasn't a planetary net-positive?
>>64994286And as a result of that millions more became radicalized and/or moved to Europe. Just like the people in charge then, you didn't think this through.
>>64994298Ahhh. You're one of those "blowback theory" faggots. When any of you midwits show up with legit data on that claim, the world will be amazed.
>>64994249>sacrifices are honoured by the USThat what you call it when the sec def makes shit up about the families of fallen soldiers mouthing zigger level propaganda about how we have to continue fighting or their kid died for nothing? Are the fallen honored when a draft dodger poses next to their caskets for a fund raising photo op he mails to his fans to beg for money?This is a tarpit of shit we are stuck in now and degrading an enemy is not why we're there. We are at war for a sick old man's vanity and arrogance, and the fact you can't stop sounding just like ziggers glorifying their monke tsar just confirms you're no different than the servile fucks in dumfuck oblast.
>>64994298Then maybe the Euro instead of sucking mudshits off and letting them in. They should deport them and tell them to fuck off but that would need the Euros to not be faggots so won't happen. I don't feel anything but contempt for the faggots who think mudshits are there friends.
>>64994298Gee, what made them radical for the thousand years before there was an America?Sheesh.
>>64994329Try thinking with your brain instead of using shitty heuristics to categorize people. There is no European refugee crisis without the antecedent cascade of regime change wars, literally directly observable cause and effect you guileless worm.
>>64994278>a war you have no stake inEveryone has a stake in wars that remove dictatorships and theocracies.The world will be a better place when everyone is free to make their countries western.
>>64994343>European refugee crisisThat's is literally a Kremlin strategy and why they're in the process of collapsing.
>>64994346Overthrowing Libya, Iraq and Syria was the work of the Kremlin? Could you be any more dishonest?
>>64994353>Overthrowing Libya, Iraq and Syria was the work of the Kremlin?Indirectly, yes.Of course I'm referring to the refugee crisis manipulated, sometimes created and certainly exploited and directed by the Kremlin.Those were all terrible regimes that deserved to be overthrown and they were propped up long past their natural lifespans by the Kremlin and Putin-allies, so yes. Their overthrow and resulting refugee waves were the work of and one of the outcomes intended by the Kremlin.
>>64989586>The US has literally infinite money and complete control of world trade and financeMay I see it?
>>64992201You're speaking to the dregs of neo-conservatism/MAGA, he's in way too deep to realise that it's been definitely over for almost 20 years now
>>64964595If you do not have a hardened hangar, believe it or not, straight to jail.
