What weapon is this? Never expected Hezbollah to have advanced missiles like these. Captured Spike NLOS? Chinese HJ-12?https://x.com/Lif3Sci/status/2033965398157046140
>>64980114No aftermath and in the end you can see the trophy launcher turn to face the missile so I assume the tank wasn't taken out.
>>64980144We can see the video feed untill very up close to the tank. I'd think that even if the trophy did something the shaped charge would finish the business from that close
>>64980114chinese HJ-16
>>64980151I don't know enough about trophy to know how it works but what few clips I've seen it seems to really annihilate whatever missile it hits, that said I have no idea what that missile being fired is so who knows. I'd still bank on there being no aftermath shown to be indicative of the tank surviving though.
>>64980151>the shaped charge would finish the business from that closeNot really.
>>64980173Provide the aftermath to prove me wrong or fuck off back to /pol/ if you only want to cry about jews.
>>64980114Almas, Iranian reverse engineered copy of the Spike NLOS that the IDF lost during the 2006 lebanon war.Here; Almas right to the jew dick of this amateur bodybuilder jew who came to bring food to his fellow IDF soldiers after one almas blasted the building on the left. note the damage on the left.
>>64980173>extremely jewish postextremely brown post
>>64980151You know slat armor is designed to mitigate or even defeat shaped charges despite only being a literal foot or two away from the vehicle right? EFPs are actually pretty sensitive to detonating closer or further away than intended.
>>64980114Iranian copies and arms bought by Iran from China that get written off as lost/used and smuggled in.
>>64980367Iran and the Norks having Spike NLOS copies is well established, Bulsae-4 is such a close copy that UA briefly thought they were getting hit with stolen Spikes before they salvaged fragments of them.
>>64980151What ATGM actually has a video feed, though?
>>64980471Spike NLOS was the first, but Chinese, Iranian and NK ATGMs gradually all got man-in-the-loop fiberoptic guidance
>>64980151>>64980471What this guy said. >>64980494Pretty much every long range variant is just making the missile bigger and giving it pop out x wings so it can go really far, they all need man in the loop for last moment corrections because of how long the flight time is.
>>64980114No aftermath = didn’t do anything. I’ve learned this from years of Gaza Muslim propaganda
>>64980226I said it then and I'll say it again today. Only retards would use an atgm for killing 2 dudes in their workout gear. Even playing magical hats with the conex boxes would be a better use.
>>64980471>>64980494FOG-M was the first conceptually.
>>64980471>>64980494Spike and Akeron MP effectively descend from FOG-M.
>>64980471>>64980494Turdies cannot create new concepts therefore t hey must steal from the descendant of FOG-M. FOG-M was based on a TOW for the original airframe.
>>64980471>>6498049480s Western concepts were killed by the peace dividend, leaving their remains behind to be scavenged by nations like Israel, South Africa and China.
>>64980471>>64980494And what emerged from those nations were then stolen to make ultra-enshittified form primitive propaganda and terror weapons that we see turdie nations using today.
>>64981400>>64981395The original Spike NLOS was in service before the FOG-M program started.
>>64980144Yeah and I'm pretty sure they actively zoom in the image near the end to make it look like they got closer than they actually did.
>>64980144Kek and cope, this is the last from of that video.
>>64981428Give me some reference material on the early Spike NLOS so I can read through it, I'm curious about it given how secretive the history of the early versions of it are.
>>64981429The resolution would noticeably drop if it was just zoomed, the sighting mark starts growing after they lock.
>>64980144>>64980644Repeating what I've seen in the last two threads about this. Supposedly a Merkava was immobilized by an ATGM with 0 casualties. Then the engineering vehicle sent to recover it was taken out by an ATGM with 2 casualties. OPs video may or may not be from that event.
>>64981440Here's a Jane's article on it: https://web.archive.org/web/20160418002714/http:/www.janes.com/article/53506/analysis-idf-breaks-33-year-silence-on-m48-tamuz-missile-launcher
>>64981494Ah that was like 2 weeks ago. Crazy this is all hezzies have accomplished so far
>>64980144>so I assume the tank wasn't taken outGood to know you would try to record aftermath and as consequence get taken out in the process because you are too dumb to know when to move on.>>64981429There is no indication of such and you are mistaking narrow field of view of the "zoom" effect.>>64980494There is no evidence of fiber optic cable being feature of North Korean NLOS ATGM.
>>64980401Designation of NLOS type ATGM from North Korea is not known, what is known Bulsae-4 designation is for extensively improved 9M111/9M113 that replaced wire guided SACLOS with rear aspect laser beam riding akin to 9M133 which North Korea also produces under designation Bulsae-5.
>>64980280>You know slat armor is designed to mitigate or even defeat shaped charges despite only being a literal foot or two away from the vehicle right? EFPs are actually pretty sensitive to detonating closer or further away than intended.Slat armor works by catching the nose of the RPG grenade and breaking it so it bends. The RPG nose fuze works by firing a tiny EFP backwards and if the geometry of the nose is bent it will simply miss. EFPs are not very sensitive to long distance. All shaped charges have a minimum distance before they are fully formed but EFPs degreade very slowly compared to regular shaped charges which is why they are used as roadside mines where they literally fly 80-100 feet before hitting the target.
>>64982751>>64982734Their top attack Kornet copies that Israel captured used fiber optic. Bulsae-4 can use fiber optic as stated by the UA, at least the one that uses a top attack EFP does. >rear aspect laser beam ridingAt 35km?
>>64982901Your reading comprehension and understanding of English language is atrocious as nowhere has been stated by me for North Korean NLOS ATGM as being designated as Bulsae-4 as I have literally stated opposite.I was not discussing one ATGM as I have been discussing three in order to provide context and clear up misinformation.Bulsae-5 is 9M133 Kornet clone/analogue and predecessor Bulsae-4 is 9M111/9M113 with same control principle as 9M133 with Bulsae-4M being modernization that made launching post compact and lighter than Bulsae-4.We do not know if NLOS ATGM also has Bulsae designation and if so whenever it is 6 or 7 because of fact North Korea also has clone/analogue to AGM-114 Hellfire.As for range of NLOS ATGM that North Korea has, well I do not know actual range and there are various speculations about such from to 10 to 15 kilometers all the way to 35km.
>>64982752>The RPG nose fuze works by firing a tiny EFP backwards and if the geometry of the nose is bent it will simply miss.Wrong. RPG warhead has piezo-electric detonation mechanism. Slat armor crushes the warhead and short circuits the current path of the fuse, preventing detonation. It's not 100% effective so it's also called statistical armor.
>>64980151I don't think so. Everything looks perspective correct as the missile approaches, but near the end it switches to a zoom, indicating editing to make it seem like they got footage to the very endIt also very looks wobbly at the start and at the end it looks like it flies laser straight just as the zoom begins.Obvious manipulation is obvious.
>>64982992My specificity of language was lacking, i apologize for making a sub par post. It's confusing since the name is used for several seperate systems and the footage shown was more than one type. It doesn't help that the Norks don't actually use these names the way we do and no doubt have their own. The nomenclature we are using is terrible since we are talking about not only seperate weapons but in some cases seperate classes of weapons.About the vehicle launched missile:>As for range of NLOS ATGM that North Korea has, well I do not know actual range and there are various speculations about such from to 10 to 15 kilometers all the way to 35km.The fiber optic aspect of that and the 35km range came from Budanov himself so i see no reason to doubt it. If i recall properly it was from the interview where he talks about Nork weapons in general, he also confirms that Koksan ranges are as advertised and that their ballistic missile accuracy was rapidly improving.The man portable ones having fiber optics was from Israel capturing Iranian/Nork Kornet knock offs with it. Once again sorry for a sub par quickie post, i was in a hurry.
>>64980114The camera literally zooms into the fucking tank instead of flying into it.
>>64980114>no aftermath pictures or footageSAAAAAAARS!
>/pol/ still can’t post aftermathWhy do they never post aftermath footage? Even Syrian rebels managed to do it. Really gets the noggin joggin
>>64980151>the shaped charge would finish the business from that closeWhy do people with no knowledge or interest in weapons come and post here?
>>64980665>nooooo, you can't fire a missile at two dudesReally? So what's your opinion about pic relevant?
>>64984089Nta, but ninja hellfire is based
>>64980256>brownjews are literally brown lmfao>>64981411So true. Which is why America stole the very concept of the ATGM from Germany, an actual White country that as far as we know isn’t paying tribute to 85IQ zoomali Fraudsters.Tell me Saar, why are my White German American hands so clean?
>Iranians reverse engineered the SpikeDidn't know that, seeing the crayon eaters getting blasted by Spikes on Iranian D-Day would be rad.
>>64984177Physically taking design information at the point of an occupation force is quite different to buying shit from a scumbag salesman/thief. But you can keep stretching that suicidal-prone analogy, edgelord.
Its been a while since we've seen these.
>>64986574>2 IDF KIA>400-500 hezzie KIASad you have to post shit from the last war btw. The war that ended with Hezbollah being bombed daily with no response for a year
>>64981434>>64980114the last frames are just crop frames of the previous frame the video is doctored and that's with the very long focal length the almas already has
>>64980114Kino
>>64983890Doctored image Indians have never nor will ever wear Timbs.
>>64980665>Only retards would use an atgm for killing 2 dudes in their workout gear.The sign says wipe down the bench after use!
why’s nothing getting said about the F35 getting hit with a missile?
>>64980169So how are these controlled? Just a simple joystick or what?
>>64987841internet shills
>>64987841Since this board cares about skin color so much, many Lebanese pass the paper bag test
>>64987949>>64987945the part you neglected to mention is that this one drove over a 500-1000kg ied and the driver still survived
>>64980151Shaped charges if not detonated properly at the base will just fizzle out and fail to produce a jet, go back to your containment boars.
>>64987970Oh do they now? Post fingers.
>>64987984>>64987997who thought /pol/ will ever consider arabs as white but then again, that board is now overrun by them.
>>64991351Jews are genetically closer to Arabs than Iranians are.
>>64991406hezbollah are lebanese not iranians but iranians were arabized over 14 centuries also you are the same people that then go on to tell leftists that israel is a european colonial state or whatever
>All the footage and photos in this thread are from 2024>Every single oneHow the fuck have you guys not figured out reliable channels to follow for information and geolocation by now?...Hez has only released one video of them targeting alleged Merkavas for this war thus far and it's entirely in thermal. They released one other video of them targeting an alleged D9 Bulldozer, too. Those are the only videos they've posted from this war of them doing anything but firing missiles and drones.Reverse search pic related for the Merkava video; don't feel like making a webm since it will look like shit anyway.
>>64993010So hezbollah hasn't been destroyed?
>>64995900No, that’s why we’ll be permanently occupying southern lebanon.
>>64995930How could you forget about that sweet, sweet litani
>>64990190Surprising it even saw combat considering the Israelis keep crashing and/or flipping them.
>>64984089That would actually be my point. Wasting a precious ATGM on infantry instead of taking a purpose built system. And if you don't have a purpose built system whoever is in charge should tell his people what they should shoot at and what not.
>>65002980>IDF reports show them failing to take south lebanon and getting constantly BTFO'd by Hezbollahhuh?
>>64980665It was a multi shit strike on a surveillance balloon site.#1 hit the command centre at the left rear of that sceneThus was #2 and from the target marker was originally aiming at the winch unit for the balloon cable - the dark box to the front right - but the firer changed and went for the joke shot instead as the guy walked across the compoundThey had to reload to #3 which hit the winch and cut the cableThe freed balloon ended up crashing in Southern Lebanon and was captured by the Leb Army>the disadvantage of man-in-loop is firers sometimes let their sense of humor overtake the original plan
>>65002980Lmao. Its amazing the copes on here
>>64981496It's curious how with just one little trick Jews were able to hide in the plain sight for so many years. BTW in 2000s on waronline forum I saw Israeli users dropping hints. Like discussion >we have 2 "artillery" brigades, name one and name two, but what the fuck do they really so? >everybody else: shoo, shoo! Silence, youngling!
>>65003593i have no idea how they kept that secret this long when grunts were supposed to keep the secret that artillery unit was reestablished and they have a new classified systemit has the same code name diamond i don't have the clearance for it but it was accidentally revealed to me when i was a conscript and no i won't say what it is
>>65003593OPSEC was a lot easier back in the day before everyone carried a camera everywhere and uploaded everything. You also had to pass selection in order to get in to the unit.
>>65003809Битaхoн Caдэ!
>>64980114the way they edit the video to an outro right before impact makes it seem like a CSGO montage video lol
