You do have a .22, right? editionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik>>64973945
reposting my hockey-taped G19.6. Gonna test out the grippy tape tomorrow
>.22 999 top-break revolver at my lgs for $600>pretty good condition, tight lockup on all 9 chambers>have always wanted one>hold it in my hands>...IT'S SO FUCKING UNERGONOMICAHHHHHHHHit might be the LEAST comfortable gun to hold I've ever held.the grip is awful
>>64981992picking up vp9a1 on friday and every hour has felt like ten. thinking about getting a shoulder holster for it, any anons shoulder carry?
>>64981992>You do have a .22, right?Genuinely the first gun I bought. Beautiful range toy, cute because it's a 1911 moni-me, and if I ever wanted to larp I could stick a light or laser on it. If I were to buy it again today I'd get the M1911A1 lookalike since the rail and ambi safety don't matter to me now. Wish the .380 version came with 10 round mags since the form factor could be cool for CCW.Eventually need to pick up a TX22 for FRT fun times, and one day I'll hunt down a Match Target 2nd Series Woodsman. SG makes a 2nd series clone but it's not a Match Target. But for now I'll just burn through cheap Armscor and White Box .22 LR and wait for some custom gun grips for the Browning.
Sure, I'll post. I only have two pistols but I like them. I should have a Wolf recoil spring for the Kahr within two weeks. What sights should I get for my M&P? Fiber? Tritium? Fiber and tritium?
>>64981992I have a Ruger Mk III 22/45, a Henry AR-7, and a Ruger Single Six, but... I've got to be honest, I kind of don't like any of them. I kind of want to sell the Single Six.
>>64981883>well known consWhat cons?
>>64982433It makes you a homoqueer
>>64982066If you like that just spend 10 dollars on a hogue grip for it because that tape is going to get disgusting quickly.
4.25 python or TRR8?
>>64982467Hockey tape is kino tho
>>64982491Is it an old or new Python? If it's an old model with great blueing and beautiful grips, that's the only way I'd take it over an R8
>>64982605Looks nig-tier
>>64982467>buy this other thing'no'grip tape is cool, removable, and I can put colors on it>>64982713>anything I don't like is niggersI play 'you are a JEWISH NIGGA' in attack position and end my (You)
>>64982720Cope harder, afro engineer
>>64982723You didn't play a slur though, that's not a valid move.
Calm down Tyrone your ghetto tape job looks ghetto
You forgot to (You) me too
Is it blasphemous to get a pre WWII gun Cerakoted? I wanna grab a Colt Official Police and get it done in black, with a red front sight. Blued finishes just dont hold up well where I live.
>>64982105bumping this question, is shoulder carry ass or okay for open and or concealed carry
Buy a Wrangler
>>64982744yes. Cerakoting any gun is blasphemy. Cerakote is ugly and stupid.
>>64982760>Jack Danielssmdh head
>>64982744What other guns do you have? Have you ever Cerakoted a gun before? Why not just grab a modern gun with a stainless or matte black finish?
>>64982797A Ruger 10/22. Ive never Cerakoted a gun before so I would be getting it done by a professional applicator, not a DIY job.
Anyone know if there is anyone making a Kydex pocket holster for the Beretta 20X? I've seen one or two pocket holsters, but they have all been leather or nylon. Vedder and Alabama Holster don't make one for the 20X and I don't know the holster market very well. I have a remora holster for my 3032 that fits, and it does cover the mag release, but because it is a flexible material and doesn't have a space for the release, the magazine gets released when it's in the holster and I bump into something. I want a kydex one to prevent that, but can't find one.
>>64982821>done by a professional applicatorWhy not do black nitride or black dlc/pvd if you are sending it in?
>>64982724>not a valid move
>>64982839I was mainly worried about the effect the higher process temperature might have on the old steel; Cerakote is also more corrosion resistant and that's my main concern living in the south where humidity is bad and field conditions are wet.
>>64982821I'm just a little puzzled why you'd pick an old Colt Official Police and then coat it as your first handgun
Cerakote is a very fancy paint.
>Mfw my online order for a Tisas B45R was cancelled because they actually didn't have it in stockSo it goes. What's the best 1911 I can buy for under $700?
>>64982875I dont know man, I'm a dumbass at heart. I want a revolver for my first handgun because when I went out to the range and tested a bunch, I shot faster and better groups with them over autoloaders. Since I'm getting a revolver anyways, I might as well get a classic because they haven't really evolved much since the early 20th century. However I also want the gun to be practical for use when I go innawoods and carrying rather than just a range toy or collector's item, hence the Cerakote. Pic is the only semi auto I tried out that I actually shot well with and enjoyed.
>>64982754If I had a jacket I would like shoulder carry, but people say it's bad. I'd like to hear /k/ opinions on this, too.
Why shouldn't I get a platypus?
>>64982906Well, first off, I'd get a .357 Magnum if it's for innawoods. Secondly, just get a stainless revolver if you're worried about rusting. A Ruger GP100 or SP101, a Colt Trooper or a Smith 686 or 27 would be better for what you're looking for If you're looking for a .38 snubby to throw in your pocket, look at the Ruger LCR or one of the Smith air weights
>>64982959Gp100. Get that 6th round. You're innawoods.
>>64982905Springfield. It has the bonus upside of not being made of butter-soft steel that won't last 2k rounds.
>>64982959Are .357 magnum standard loading that big of an upgrade to .38 special +P stuff from manufacturers like Buffalo Bore or Underwood?
>>64982975I'd go with that, too. Skip beer for a weekend to spring for that extra $26.
>>64982986A better question is whether an 80+ year old police revolver can even handle those 38 loads safely? I would be surprised if it can.
>>64982961Well yes, if I was him, I'd get an 8 capacity .357 Magnum but he also says he intended to conceal carry it so SP101 it probably about the thickest I'd go for a beginner>>64982986There are many schools of thought on this but I'll give you mine; as a new shooter, why lock yourself out of an entire cartridge when you can get both at the same time?
>>64982991I was reading up on it, and the Official Police was originally designed around a .41 caliber round. It could safely handle the (in)famous .38/44 loading which are +p+ and the precursor to the .357 mag.
>>64982066Is it better than 100 mph tape? >>64980005
>>64982997That's a good point, more options is always better. I still want an older revolver though, so maybe I'll look at getting a pre-Mark III Trooper.
>>64982905Ruger SR1911 used off GBRun at least 100 rounds through it at the range and if you encounter any malfs at all send it in for warranty
>>64982744>>64982906What's the meta here? Buying the cheapest "classic" revolver then giving it a "modern" update so you have a bulky, possibly broken, overweight 6-round full size in a mediocre chambering? Why not just go with a blued Model 10 and put some dayglo paint on the front sight?
>>64983014The mk III Trooper came out in the 60s bro
>>64983028Fags just wanna have fun, anon. Here, have a Hi Point>>64983072The Mark III has completely different lockwork and is made using sintered steel parts which can't be altered in a possible action job or they will fail.
>funFor me, top is shooting. Cleaning is a very close second.
>>64982907it seems nice to me it’s my first option once I get my pistol in
Does anyone here own a Walther P99? I'm buying my first gun tomorrow and my local shop is selling a new P99 AS final edition for $600 I really liked the thing, but wanted to do some research before buying it.
What is the most popular revolver that everyone owns one, and everyone suggests you start with if you don’t have one, like a Glock 19 of revolvers? S&W Model 19? Ruger GP100?
>>64982905If you’re not allergic to MIM parts, Springfield Mil-Spec Defend Your Legacy, Garrison, or Ronin.
>>64983128Burt is our resident Walther expert, I'm sure he'll be buy shortly. I don't want to put words in his mouth so I'll just say from my own experience I think you're picking a terrific first handgun>>64983136The Glock 19 of revolvers is either a GP100 or Model 10, depending on who you ask
>>64983136>>64983145And SP101 if you smaller.
>>64983128It's okay. That's a bit much to pay unless you're a hardcore Bond fan and absolutely must have it. Idk what your budget is though
>>64982905I like used guns. I don’t know if any of these would be good shooters though. Interesting gun, post WW2 Colt slide and barrel on a RIA frame https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1148307310WW2 Colt slide on a fusion firearms frame, the slide has British proof marks https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1163512274I got this Colt 1911 for 770 or so at auction and I’m very happy with it, it was worked over by a unknown gunsmith and has a great trigger job and tight fit match barsto barrel If buying new, Springfield Garrison or Ronin. I saw Tisas Raiders (same thing as the B45R but FDE and Marsoc styled grips) on gunbroker. Tisas is no longer importing through SDS and probably will see a massive price hike when they’re available again since they were unhappy with SDS’s low pricing Rock Island Armory exists, I saw they had some optic cut models using Springfield’s AOS system
>>64983145Glad to hear it, I always heard Walther was a good brand but am aware companies can come out with lemons every now and then.>>64983171My overall budget per say is $1200, however I am not wanting to blow it all on a single gun as I would like to get a light as well as a holster, and anything left over for ammo. I liked the feel in the hand, as well as the deckcoer it has but am still open to other suggestions.
>>64983190It's very good that you're budgeting for holster/ammo. The P99 is great but you might as well at least give the modern version, the PDP, a look.https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/walther%20pdp
>>64983144Operator too, Ive been mulling over an Operator in 9mm for a range toy
>>64982905>>64983185https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1161845407MEUSOC is a clone of the first gen M45 that actually has some clone correct parts, like the Kings style safety, Ramped front sight, and the grip safety. As you can see the pricing difference, the old price is 560 and the new one is 700
>>64982975>>64982989>>64983021>>64983144Thanks bros, I'll take a look at the Springfield and the SR1911 on GB. Would the basic Tisas 1911A1 model also be worth looking at, or is it worth it for the price, or is it really that overhyped?
>>64983185Hmm, very tempting to buy an old school Colt and have it fitted with custom parts over time. >>64983234The Tisas MEUSOC. Now that's a 1911 I was seriously considering purchasing a while back, but I felt that owning a handgun like that would give off vibes of being a LARPer8or. Maybe I'm overthinking it and should just get it anyway because I think it's cool as fuck.
Love me muh 22s
Could you potentially damage a light if it sticks out further than the barrel? Like using a TLR1 on a 229?
>>64983277I could go for another .22 handgun
>>64983128It's kind of an unforgiving firstgun because of the inferior grip texture, brisk recoil impulse and lack of optic capability, but maybe that's my bias talking. P99 was my first, but I was a knownothing dingaling and got the .40 version without knowing better. It kind of made me hate handguns for a long while (I had nightmares about it, over 9000 pound trigger, bullets are sponges, etc), until I overcame the flinch it gave me. But it's a great gun in 9mm, if the PDP with its superior grip texture and optic mount doesn't appeal to you because it's ugly, get a P99>>64983339From the blast you mean? Not really, if you're worried about the lens you can put tape over it or vaseline/lip balm to make cleaning easier
>>64983339The tip of the light body will get chared and the lens will get dirty, but it should continue working if it's a well made light. You can kind of see that in this pic.
>>64983388>top* of the light bodyOopsies.
>>64982989If he looks on gun.deals there's some barely over 600, although if he wants a rail it will be a good bit over 700>>64983257In my opinion it's way over hyped. It might be awesome to have if one rarely shoots and just wants a cool 1911 for cheap, but I don't think it's a good option if someone expects to put a lot of rounds through it.
>>64982444HK is the straight white man’s gun
is $295 + free shipping + no sales tax for a new EPS carry green dot a good deal?
>>64983439Yes, not super good, but it's been at that price for a while>greenmaybe even better than typical
Guess the snap cap
>>64983501That left 9mm looks real weird
>>6498350138 on the right
>>64983360Beretta 20X still has that 100 dollar rebate going on.
>>64983501Just try all three and the one that doesn't make your ears hurt is the one.
>>64983524>>64983530>>64983560The answer is, from left to right:>9mm Winchester Service Grade >.357 jhp Blazer/CCI>Snap capI was looking for .38/.357 snap caps and found this on eBay. The guy selling it mentioned that it was the same weight as a live round. I didn't know itd look so similar to the point I'm almost terrified to pull the trigger on it
>>64983501>Snap cap that looks exactly like real ammoBad idea.
>>64983644Clearly the solution is to load a revolver with the snap caps and open carry it and when a pavement ape snatched it from me I draw my concealed Glock and blow him away
When does S&W have good sales? 4th of July and Black Friday?
Why are single stack 22lr Mags so inefficient? Why do they need such huge followers? Just look at this 380 mag vs a 22lr mag, only half of it is usable compared to the 380 where 80% is usable. My 21A mags are even worse.
Here's my haul today. LCP MaxS&W 360PDFive boxes of Fiocchi 115g 9mm range ammunition (limited to five boxes of 9mm at the store)Four boxes of Federal 180g .40One Box of Federal 129g 38splTwo boxes of PMC 90g .380One box of G9 90g .380One box ofG9 95g .40Two boxes of Fiocchi .38 spl WadcuttersThe majority of this is for range day tomorrow with a couple buddies.
>>64983706Well please take a look at the picture you have yourself uploaded and try to find the culprit. Actually, you may be , so here's a hint to help you: pay attention to the angle at which every round sits in the magazine. Do you notice any issues, or at least differences between 22 and 380 magazine?
>>64983714>S&W 360PDVery nice pick
>>64983128a pdp is $100 more at most shops and significantly better as a first gun, also i would only recommend it if you wear size large gloves or bigger
>>64983439yes but only if its the 2 moa version or the mrs version
>>64983714Damn, Anon. That's awesome. Hope you guys have a fantastic time!
Would you choose a Bodyguard 2.0 or Kahr PM9 for pocket carry? If you choose a BG, does the Carry Comp actually make a decent difference for $100?I was settled on just sticking with the Kahr and getting a M&P 2.0 9 compact, but now the BG is hitting our state roster.
>>64983748BG 2.0 no comp, if you're carrying in a holster and not just a sticky holster innapocket an optic is fine I guess. Comps make little sense to me in .380 as they're borderline useful for 9mm carry guns
>>64983748I can answer this. Had a BG 2.0 comp, and now just a regular BG. I went to the range today and put 100 through it.The regular BG 2.0 is unbelievably good for its size. Also, what >>64983756 said. The comp makes little difference desu. I love my BG 2.0 a ton. Conceals well too
>>64983748>single port 'comp' on a .380 pocket gunbasically worthless
>>64983748BG2.0 - Carry comp is fun, yes it makes it difference, no it isn't necessary and if small is what you're after why take the bigger version? I wouldn't bother with the carry comp. Kahr is perfectly fine but the PM9 doesn't remotely compare, it's barely a 2-finger grip, 6+1 with the flush mag, 37% heavier which actually matters when you shove it in a pocket. The two really can't be compared, the BG2.0 stands alone in its class.
>>64983765If anything a comp on a .380 is just going to weigh the gun down more and that's what you're feeling.
What should I read or watch to not be a shitter with handguns? I need to up my game for real.
Let me guess, you NEED a reciprocating slide, baka.
>>64983765>>64983769Thanks for the input. I'm kind of stuck with Kahr or selling for a loss. Fuck shiiiiiit.
>>64983771>readThe fucking manual>watch Paul Harrell Honestly you should find someone that can give you one on one training in person
>>64983769Cutting a few holes in the slide won't make it heavier, but the extra 1/4" of slide and barrel they added for it might. The Carry Comp is only 5 grams heavier than the regular one, the weight of a quarter, it's nothing. If you can't feel the difference between them it's because you haven't shot them. I don't want to sound like I'm defending the Carry Comp, I think it's retarded, but saying it "doesn't work" or "doesn't make a difference" is just lying. The difference it makes it small, pointless, and doesn't justify the added cost and length of the gun, but it is real.
>>64983556>jams
>>64983800When we're saying it doesn't matter we're speaking practically not literally since this gun is likely getting dumped point blank
>>64983817Totally true, but I was replying to a retarded noguns tourist claiming that I can't actually feel the difference with the comp.>>64983769>If anything a comp on a .380 is just going to weigh the gun down more and that's what you're feeling.
>>64983725>>64983745Thanks! I knew the 360 was going to be pretty light, but I was not expecting it to feel so comfortable to grip. I have some more ammo ordered from Federal's website but patience is not one of my virtues.
>>64982906P01 chads rise
>>64982754I want a shoulder holster solely so I can carry without putting on pants while I smoke on my balcony.
>>64983799Id rather read or watch a video then practice. I have a buddy who's a good shooter but not a good teacher. I was never big into Paul but I'll look for a video about pistols from him.
>>64982105It's hard to do in the summer depending on where you live. Shoulder carry is basically open carry
>>64981992What camera should I use to do this kind of photos? a regular phone would do?
>>64983878https://www.ebay.com/p/16038690868If you really want a book, I highly recommend* Shooting Handguns by Steve Weir. I have a copy myself and it covers pretty much everything you could need to know as a beginner.*Full disclosure, I am friends with the guy who wrote it and he's currently working on a rifle book
>>64983886Sharp J-SH04
>>64983844Did your cortisol just spike because it was pointed out correctly that mass in the slide/barrel impacts felt recoil out of all the places to put it? Adding weight to the end of your gun then claiming your part is reducing recoil is only true on a technicality, generally compensators need a good amount of gas to actually push enough gases down to make a mechanical difference, otherwise you could have just gotten a longer slide/barrel and have similar results if the compensator isn't getting the gas it needs.
>>6498377190% of the time is how you pull the trigger and how you hold the gun with your non-dominant hand.
>>64983892Tape a quarter to the end of your Bodyguard 2.0 and tell me it makes as big of a difference as the Carry Comp.
>>64983891my brain hurts Burt, don't post that ever again
>>64983896Tell me if it really makes a difference at pocket pistol distance, why not just carry a 9mm if you need accurate sustained longer range fire and have even better results with a compensator?
>>64983888Ill see if I can pirate the book>>64983894This sounds about right to me. I have a 9mm bore laser and will dry fire to see what im doing when I pull
>>64983903You're moving the goal posts because you said something patently false. Just say "yes of course it makes a difference, of course it works, it's just such a tiny difference you'd have to be a retard to think it matters." Is that really so hard?
>>64983921You can't see the forest for the trees and are hung up on minutia.
>>64983919Push the gun with your non dominant hand towards you while at the same time pushing your thumb on the frame. Dry fire doing this and you will notice how your sights barely move.Also get snapcaps, and make use you don't ND on the wall.
>>64983717Well yeah, the 22 is at a greater angle due to the rim setting atop of the following cartridge, but the cartridges are still half the size. I just don't get why the follower has to be almost 2 inches long in a 4 inch magazine its not like a MK4 mag where it has a crazy grip angle. The cartridges in the 22lr mag aren't THAT angled.
>>64983799>>64983878>Paul HarrellAll respect to the man, but his handgun advice is dogshit.
>>64983950its more just very dated
>>64983950It works fine
>>64983950Outdated not obsolete. Even by the end of his life he admitted that with all the BLM riots and shit a revolver probably isn't going to cut it anymore
>>64983962If you don't think you can walk out your front door armed with a revolver in a decent chambering and make it through about anything there isn't a pistol or rifle that will get you there either.
>>64983606I'd paint the base or something. I got these snappies from Brownells ages ago, they look like real bullets but they came painted black. Maybe you can use cold blue or something to taint the brass uniquely without adding dimension>>64983943>The cartridges in the 22lr mag aren't THAT angled.They are after 7 or 8 rounds. And the follower cannot tilt dynamically to compensate. So when you get past a certain point either they're not being supported by the follower, or the follower will just jam in the mag body. They've come up with various solutions to this but nothing is as effective at increasing rimfire mag capacity as a well engineered double stack that splays the cartridge butts out enough to keep all cartridges parallel to indefinite length. But that ALSO is problematic, else we'd see more 25+ round double stack .22 magstl;dr It's an unconquerable problem that intelligent men have been attempting to conquer for one and a half centuries>>64983886Any old DSLR with a bounce flash will do. You can do pretty good with a >2020 phone camera and a light box but the bounce flash makes it a zero-setup getup
>>64981992>>64983277Nice 22sGetting a little red dot for this tomorrow
>>64983897it was never supposed to exist but i saw it and knew it was destined for grapeness
NRA stopped printing their member magazines (American Rifleman for me). They tried to make e-publishing seem like some kind of marvelous upgrade members would benefit from. The rags were already 45% ads, 30% laughably false masturbatory editorial pieces laden with pleads for more money, and 20% invariably positive shill fluff piece articles full of phrases like "didn't have the best luck with" and "despite a few hiccups." Yet still they had to stop printing 8 cents worth of ink on 22 cents worth of paper and mailing them out with 14 cents of postage to every member who pays hundreds of dollars for a membership, so Wayne Lapierre and Marion Hammer can build their 11th and 9th lodge retreats to give them the comfort and peace of mind they require to compose more donation begging articles. God what a pathetic racket.inb4 some knobgobbler who enjoys getting muzzled and ricocheted in an appliance strewn quarry doesn't know that many ranges require 100% NRA membership of members in order to qualify for insurance they otherwise couldn't afford
>>64984122Holy fuck I was wondering why I randomly stopped getting the magazines. Honestly I barely read the fucking thing unless there's a historical piece or something on a new gun that interest me. I can't handle the bullshit that gets spewed in it most of the time. My dad will be pissed.
>>64984122Burt are you a boomer? This is exactly the type of complaint a boomer would have, about printed media no less. Was this magazine really a value add for a membership you self admittedly said you got to get range access?
>>64984129Same. The first 1/3 is their garbage jack off editorials telling you how in danger you are and how much the NRA can save you (if you'll just donate). The second 1/3 is shill articles that sometimes contain some tiny nugget of useful or entertaining information in between glazing foreign garbage products (usually Turkish) with outrageous MSRPs and shooting 3" benched groups at 7 yards with pistols and calling it "superbly accurate." The last 1/3 is boomer ads for meme silver coin mintings, lawn mowers and hearing aids.>>64984130MaybeIt wasn't a value add so much as a minuscule salve against the inescapable grift and literal inches of begging requests for money I get in the mail from them. Like yeah I'm forced to pay, but here's a little escapism to distract you, some microscopic effort on their part to justify the money black hole. But now even that minor pretense at legitimacy is goneI tell you huwhat though, when my membership lapses I'm going to drop down to the shitto poverty associate member thing for $5/year
>>64984172>literal inches of begging requests for money The worst part is, if you give them money, it goes straight into printing more mail to beg for money and hiring callers that ask for more money. Basically, everything except core mission.
>>64984172holy fuck what a line lmfao
>>64984172did i make that ad?
>>64984172>$5 associate membershiplol And it's been raised to $10. The grift never ends!
>>64984002I feed my local squirrels peanuts. You murder them. We are not the same. Don't @ me.>>64984122The only good part about those was the section about armed citizens shooting bad guys. I haven't paid for an NRA membership in years. However, I am a paid member of GOA, NAGR, and another state-level org.>>64984130Just read the Burtwiki.
Guess I'll EAApost a bit
>>64984172Yeah that's fair. The NRA is a money hole anyways, GOA is far superior.>>64984203Read the what now?
>>64984203nta but I like shooting the fat fox squirrels that are coming in and displacing our cute little gray squirrels.
>>64984203>I feed my local squirrels peanuts.>You murder them.Why not both?
Yea or nay on S&W 6906?
>>64983781That slide is still reciprocating, it just isn't automatic. Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word.
>>64984194I miss the days of print magazines
>>64984298MAYBE YOU SHOULD FUCKING KILL YOURSELF, FREAK!!!! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH>>64984303DUDE WEEEEEEED LAMAOOOO
>>64984203@you obviously not the same, I do enjoy them out in the wild… was just defending property unironically>>64984270Exactly, gotta just get them to stop eating the birdfeeders and dropping/throwing things on the metal roofI will reward them if they get the message obviously
>>64984002Silencer when?
>>64984343Not right now, I gotta LET EM KNOW22 go BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM(as soon as they deregulate that shit)
>>64984335Is the 502 any good?
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>>64983748I would get the Kahr. Super light striker fired triggers aren't safe for pocket carry, even with a holster.
>>64984449Beautiful wood on that.
>>64984405Yeah, I think it looks sick and fills the small but not too small low recoil fun niche… get the 17 rnd follower mod (using the 10 rnd mags suckkkkk) and p250 spring and it’s been 100% reliable (outside of occasional cheap 22 rimfire duds)
So....can I 3d print usp9 mags? Not in the mood of paying $70 for a piece of german plastic, no matter how much of pure rhineland plastic is made of
>>64984546