In the center of a large, flat and empty arena. Both are unarmored. Both are average size. Two questions:1. What type of sword do you think would be best?2. Where would you set the odds for this fight to the death.
>>64983284Halberd solos.
>>64983284Any human being can kill a lion with a sword if they have the will to do so.1. sacrifice your non-dominant arm to the beast's jaws, shove your hand deep into its throat if you can (this works)2. stab the beast to death, aim for its jugular veins and carotid arteriesThe only question is over the will to fight. Some grown men will let themselves be killed by pitbulls not even half their own weight.
>>64983289Swords only. >>64983325Arm status: sacrificed Stab status: ongoingLioness swipes my face … decent chance of death from what the lioness considers flicking the jab, you recon?
>>64983398>Lioness swipes my face … decent chance of death from what the lioness considers flicking the jab, you recon?You've also got to worry about being eviscerated by the claws on its back feet. It's cute when you're messing with a housecat and it 'bunny kicks' you. It's not so cute when it's a big cat and not playtime.
>>64983284The "standard" tactic, which is so many tens of thousands of years old it should damn near come as a natural defense to anyone who doesn't have turbofucked instincts, is:>wait for animal to charge>lower self as much as possible>brace against ground>raise and hold weapon out and up>lower head (not look down) so as to cover face/neck with arms>the animal has now penetrated itself upon your weapon.I would not use a sword for this. Your luck, strength, and final placement of the killing blow may vary. Traditionally one would employ a spear long enough that it would be planted on the ground, and given animal would be mortally wounded with enough time for the holder to break and retreat.But i mean if you're asking me to swordfight anything larger than a coyote I'm not going to accept any weapon with less than 4.5ft of reach.There's a chinese shop that makes custom katanas and IIRC you can select up to a 50 inch blade and 20 inch handle. I'd pick that as a straight blade, not curved.
>>64983469Spearniggers can't help themselves
>>64983284You're going to want to keep those paws as far from you as possible. Ol' reliable, the zweihander (or equiv.) seems like the best option here. There are other very long swords, but swords of this type are still fairly wieldy and aren't too specialized.However, if you are worried about the lioness getting past the point of your blade, then something like a longsword may be more advisable. But you shouldn't let that happen in the first place.Anyways, unless you are a total retard you should win at least 90% of the time. Keep the sharp bit pointed at the animal and there's nothing it can do.
>>64983398>Swords only.>>64983469>custom katanas and IIRC you can select up to a 50 inch blade and 20 inch handleThis. Not a spear, just a long handle.
>>64983289>Spearfag tries not to shit up comfy swordthread out of bitterness that spearthreads always suck and die, failed attempt number one billion
>>64983284Is the swordsman an athlete? Have they been in enough high stress situations that adrenaline won't override their brain?Pretty good odds. It's a giant cat. It doesn't really DO standup fights, it's hunting methods center around ambush or killing something that's too slow to outrun them. It's capable of killing you, but if you behave aggressively it's likely going to shy, not leap.
>>64983284>1. What type of sword do you think would be best?Literally a slew of other weapons that would be better than a sword. >2. Where would you set the odds for this fight to the death.That depends entirely on the training of the guy and temperament of the animal. You gave us nothing so you get nothing.
>>64985196Shit! DAMMIT! I was so close to getting Dwight Schrute’s opinion! FUCK!
>>64983325A lion is stronger than you. A lion is 300 pounds and a cat. While it's biting you it's claws are also doing things. Any one of it's claws will disembowel you.
Boar hunting spearBecause a sword isn't going to protect you from what comes after you stab the lion. It's not dead and you will bleed out together.
>>64983284Some kind of a zweihander. You definately want to keep distance.
>>64983678This. There were also short lived dedicated hunting swords - mainly for boars. But those were also used like polearms. Like many hunting spears some examples of those "boar swords" had additional crossguards near the point to prevent the game running up the entire blade. But those swords never really caught on and soon disappeared.
How tough is a lion's skin? I can't imagine they're sword proof. If you get your timing right you should be able to slash right through it and disable/kill it.
>>64985473>game running up the entire blade.Now I wonder if flammberg style blades would be beneficial for decreasing the odds of that happening.
>>64985483You can of course cut a lion. But it is far larger than a human and a cut won't necessarily end the fight. Of course the other Anon >>64985145 is right that lions are not looking for human style fights usually so perhaps a cut can scare it off.>>64985492Maybe on examples with extreme waves. But I could find no boar swords with Flammberg style blades.
>>64984377Reach ain't free, librul
>>64983398wtf did she use telekinesis on that baseball?
>>64985534>a cut won't necessarily end the fight.I think this is the crux of the issue. I can imagine a situation where you get a clean cut and straight up cleave its skull in half and stop it dead in its tracks, but I can also imagine a situation where you just chip its shoulder and it keeps on trucking and proceeds to maul you. Maybe if you had a long enough sword you could swipe at its legs. Bit boring but probably more sound.
>>64983678thisfor enough cash I would fight a lioness with a zweihander, claymore or montante
>>64983325Lions aren't dogs, they instinctively go for the neck not for limbs.
>>64983284Probably a greatsword or longsword depending on the swordsman's endurance. In theory, the swordsman just needs to keep their blade forwards and let the lioness impale herself. In practice, the swordsman could panic and charge in swinging and the lioness could just hang back and prowl for an opening. I'd call it 2:1 in the swordsman's favor with most battles being a stalemate. The lioness takes a swipe at the sword, gets her paws cut, and then just avoids the swordsman.
>>64985812Honestly, that makes them easier to fight. They've got to get past your blade to get your throat so just keep your guard up and don't let the lioness get behind you.
>>64985941You are crippling underestimating how fast they are.
>>64983325>kill a lion with a swordPoint sword tip at lion.It gets impaled if it pounces.
>>64985958They aren't faster than a sword tip.
>>64983469>one would employ a spear long enough that it would be planted on the groundAbsolute retard. There is no reason to plant a spear on the ground. You are only putting yourself at a disadvantage in controlling the tip.
>>64985976You're going to do SO WELL when a 150+lb animal lunges onto it. I have faith in you.
>>64985975Faster than your reaction time dude.
>>64986079NTASometimes lions show off incredible speed and aggression other times they get spooked by something less than half their size and bungle the same hunt they've been doing all their lives. More than half of Lion attacks on prey are unsuccessful.
>>64985440>durr spearChuckers can't read confirmed
>>64986079It still has to lunge AT you, retardI didn't see no anime sidestepping, something long four legged animals absolutely suck at
>>64983325Catniggers will try to deny this, but there's a reason why lions are an endangered species and humans aren't.
You're a bunch of fags. Fucking Baantu naked tribesmen who can't even read walk up to them, fuckin pop them one across the mouth and walk off with their food. Fukin CHAD MOVE mate.Like here bitch, this be poppi's dinnah. Fuck off, go earn.
>>64983284unless im remembering incorrectly in there are accounts from during rome that any semi moderatly skilled man with a gladius can defeat a lion without much issue though someone completely untrained almost always loses also with regard to everyone using the sword like a spear i personally wouldent only way that works is if you get it in the heart though in which case you still got like 30 seconds until it croaks also this is assuming you can hold the fucking sword while it impales the bitch and dosent just slide away or get angled away honestly if we assume a complete rando with a sword im betting 5:1 in favour of the lioness though she would quickly either succumb to her wounds or if left into the wildreness die due to the injuries hobbling her if we assume like an actually trained gladiator then 20:1 in gladiators favour>What type of sword do you think would be best?no idea something huge though
>>64990375More like the guy with a Gladio and spatha or punch dagger usually wins, the infections are a secondary gamble because he won't win clean.Also if they threat swipe and you cut up their paws a bunch they completely bitch out. Same with nose.
Depending on where she is from, a lioness weighs between 350 to 500 pounds lean. You aren't fighting that with a sword. You will realistically get a few probing swipes as she closes and tests your reaction speed and one thrust as she pounces. After that your body positioning will be wherever she decides it will be and your one sword will be up against 4 sets of claws and a mouth full of sharp teeth. House cats clown on snakes, a lioness practiced in taking down wildebeasts isn't getting beat by some HEMA fag. There is a reason they use spears, specifically throwing, to hunt lions today.
What can a lioness actually do though? If you hug its hind legs it can't reach you with its teeth, and its too sluggish to get away while you repeatedly pommel it from behind. If you stand to the side of its hind legs then it won't even be able to hit you with a back kick. If it raises its leg to perform a swipe then all you have to do is back off until it finishes its reach, then move back in to continue slashing.
>>64989610They just can't help themselves.
Urinate and masturbate, sending highly confusing scents in the air that make it wonder what the fuck this hairless monkey is doing.
>>64983284>Use actual hunting sword >70-30 chance without dogs to just kill it in seconds (or die fucking up killing it in seconds) The hole is for a metal cross beam that kept boars and bear from charging up the blade stabbed through them to gore you.
I have had sex with a large cougar/mountain lion several times, so i imagine i would have sex with the lioness. They scratch your back as the grip you. Wear a leather jacket, theyre not trying to hurt you but the ecstasy is too much for them. Do NOT attempt to mount them, enter while soft, harden WITHIN, and hug them with your face buried in their belly fur, pistoning your hips. Approaching them is more spiritual than logical. They can smell the musk of a needy cock. Theyll know your intentions. Approach slowly and apologetically, but dont back off even if you get swiped at. The cougars at least WILL become overwhelmed by reciprocal lust as you fit against them. Theyre slaves to YOUR scent and dont even know it. I would attempt this instead of fighting.
>>64995069Prove it.
>>64990705Reason is they're pussys. No fucking lion keeps pushing after the first good Cut. IT probably use a old Cavalry sabre Just for the extra mass. Even a lion wont fight with half its face missing Just so you know I'm willing to prove my claim If someone wants to provide a lioness and an arena to fight in. You even get to Livestream me fucking up a faggot big cat.
>>64985473Hunting swords weren't made/used because they were effective, they were basically toys that nobles would use for a more entertaining hunt after game was cornered or surrounded by his retainers.
This thread is a comedy gold of dunning-kreuger and "I know I could fist fight a bear">just crouch and stab it>well ackshually why would you brace a spear against the ground>if i hug its legs what can it even do>i'd totally get first strike in a cage match>gladiators did it all the timeAnd my favorite thread-long claim>no you'd be faster/fast enoughLions aren't as reaction-quick as cats, but they still have about a tenth a second faster reaction than a human.Also gladiators had armor, gladiator fights were mostly professional entertainment, and nobody has or could ever have first hand evidence of the conditions for gladiator matches. I'd be remiss to think caught animals weren't starving and dehydrated against a fully prepared man, if not even drunked and/or poisoned.You're all silly, overfed, never grew up retards.
>>64983325The replies aren't wrong about just how easily a lioness or other big cat will fuck you up, but they're also not counting on the fact that unless the lioness is literally insane it's probably going to get as far away from you as possible the moment it gets stabbed or chopped hard.
>>64997019If lions are so great then why aren't they the dominant species on this planet?