Why does India lead the world in manufacturing replica swords and other historical weapons? (By volume not by quality.) (Unrelated issue: Redleg here. I totally want that artilleryman’s sword and I consider it beautiful. Need one of you crotchety old grouches to tell me why that would make me a faggot.)
>>64984555cheap and plentiful labor, thats literally it. they're the new china for outsourcing
>>64984555Cheap labor and lax environmental regulations.
>>64984563This but also India has a sword culture. There is a constant demand for swords to be made both because people actually use swords as weapons there, and they are part of wedding ceremonies.
>>64984613> their sea salt "famers" go blind because they aren't worth enough to pay for sun glassesIf I’m not mistaken, this is the origin of The Faceless Men in Game of Thrones.
>>64984613>lol no. china makes better shit. indians are just cheaper so of you want make something in a factory you use china.where in my post did i say jeets make better stuff? you think bean counters care about that? lower cost is all they want
>>64984555Because they lead the world in melting scrap metal with zero environmental or safety regulations.
>>64984555>crotchety old grouches to tell me why that would make me a faggotI will just give you one for a blowjob. Did you consider it? You're a faggot. But yeah, it's nice and I want one too, no homo.
>>64984827this, you can buy indian musket repros from millitary heritage shipped to your door because they are literally old car axles with a hole bored down the middle and a stock attached.
>>64984555>Need one of you crotchety old grouches to tell me why that would make me a faggotAight. You're never gonna use the thing, the novelty of owning it is gonna wear off quick, you'll never bother displaying it properly, and you could buy at least 5 new 30 round PMAGs or roughly 200 rounds of .556 NATO instead.
>>64984855god this is such a gay and retarded post. Why is every other post here some gunless zoomer trying to live vicariously by budgeting for other people.Some of us have these things called jobs, and don't have to choose between buying a single item and being homeless.>b-but you could buy magazinesI have more than I can count.>a-ammoI have so much it is damaging the structural integrity of my floor.Quit posting and start sucking dick or something, don't you know that electricity cost like a cent?
>>64984555>Why does India lead the world in manufacturing replica swords and other historical weapons?Labor is cheap there.
>>64984555>buying anything made by jeets
>>64984555Because the chinks wised up and want money for their craft. Meanwhile in india you can mass order cheap garbage for like 30 bucks a sword to fill out your fleamarket stalls. Most indian made swords are not functional(albiet Del Tin makes some nice looking ones if you purely want a wall decoration, like a 200 dollar poster)Even the few companies like Windlass that pump out afordable replicas, the blades have middling heat treat and poor edge geometry. They legally can not sell sharp swords because poos will actually use them for honor killings. China is unironically the way to go if you can find the right connection.>pic related is so close to the originals when it released boomers were pissing their pants that that the antiques theyre hoarding would drop in valuehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zczCwNkJY
>>64984836you can have ANY musket repro shipped to your door because muzzleloaders/blackpowder guns are legally not considered firearms in most states you retard. You can buy an italian made 1860 revolver on amazon right now
>>64984555According to a seller it's cause they have a bunch of families that have been doing blacksmithing for generations and the only thing that pays enough these days to continue it is higher quality historical replicas.
>>64985295If (when) LK Chen makes an infantry sabre, I'll buy it. Hell, I was considering buying one of their chinese dao.
>>64985755this is the correct answerone of the nicest professional katana makers that you get without spending a fortune on a japanese one due to their heritage laws is chinesedont remember their name but they're a company from a mountainous region that has a long lineage of swordsmiths, and it was only recently that they had to start making katanas to get by, its a bit sad really because theres a lot of cool chinese swords out there
>>64986169personally ive wanting theme to do a kilij/polish saber for awhile.I did buy their twin peaks dao a few years ago, its really fun
>>64984555Cheap labor that had no cultural issue with producing absolutely garbage. Audience that just needs it to sort of look ok... to the eyes of someone who knows nothing. Far enough away that if they sell a total piece of shit "you pay the shipping" means nobody will bother returning it. It's the same with armor. The stuff they make is hilariously bad- "I saw a picture of armor once and am making it from memory" bad, but again - nobody who orders from them knows any better.I ordered Indian made mail mittens once. 30 for the product, same for shipping. I got something that was 12"x12". They literally did not measure it. Returning it would've cost another 30. Worked out, I cut them up, sewed the mail.tto a glove, and had enough material to make 3 pairs.
>>64989173Keep in mind. All the swords and armour for Game of thrones was made in India. A lot of shows with medivial settings shource their swords and armour from India.Feeling Proud Indian Army
>>64984555That is the current technological era, pls understand.
>>64984855I keep a sword for the woods, it's a machete with weight. Field sharpening is easy, I suppose I could really mess up a coyote with it while his ambush buddy bites my ass.I've always had a useful beater sword. Hell if you get your samurai game on and do that sweeping, lunging draw right, you can shave the bushes to fucking controlled 90 degree corners.I use em as pry bars too. If they snap, flea market time.
>>64989774Yeah they can make ok things IF a foreigner regularly goes to the factory and actively watches them. Otherwise they produce sword shaped garbage. Or make fake websites pretending to be one of the few reputable indian craftsmen and scam people.
>>64984563>lax environmental regulationsthere's a whole youtube genre of small-scale Indian industry, and it usually involves three guys in sandals running a lathe from the 1950s in an open-air workshop and dumping used industrial chemicals down a hole in their front lawn
>>64984855has anyone ever told you that you're prickly, uptight, or anal-retentive? it's a personality flaw you should work on.
>>64987661Do you know how good they are?https://www.szablapolska.com/produkty/szableThey have an infantry sabre. Though from what I can tell with my limited knowledge, it's not as good as the late 19th century british infantry sabre models matt easton likes to show around.>Hello there, I'm a german and I want to buy a sabre with "god save poland" inscription to defend myself against muslims, are you cool with that?
>>64986556Cheness or hanwei?
>>64984659They're blind assassins? How do they even find their target?
>>64992285Penis sonar
>>64992308I thought we weren't supposed to talk about that so the women don't find out?
>>64992323it's fine, there are no women on this board.
>>64992328Don't tell /arg/ that.
>>64989173It's a massive pain, you've got all of this cheap shit that don't make even the slightest attempt at being historically accurate, and there's all these vendors with mid-range swords who buy from Windlass and insist that they apply quality control or asked them to try a bit harder and it's basically bullshit. If I want a reproduction gladius that I can have test cutting fun with, I either have the choice of dodgy $100-400 Indian garbage that looks wrong from a casual glance at the preview image, $2000 stuff from someone reputable, or a $300 naked blade from China that I can add the fittings to myself (they don't do historical accuracy either, but at least I can somewhat trust the quality).
>>64985103I dunno, their food is pretty good
>>64987661https://www.kultofathena.com/product/balaur-arms-hungarian-saber/this is made by LK chen. Baluar is KoA's house brand, but LK chen is making their stuff now. Some of their older designs are still Indian imports (just check country of origin if not sure).Or just get a shamshirhttps://www.kultofathena.com/product/lk-chen-persian-shamshir/
>>64992516If you like food poisoning or "food" that looks like someone sharted on a plate it's good I guess
>>64990281India is an inferior China in these matters. You can get really high quality replicas to the point it's 1:1 copy of original European designs and you can get blunt crap that would be only useful as a butter knife. It's specifically find the right supplier. The swords and armoury for Game of Thrones and House of Dragons was made by a specific supplier Lord of Battles and R.S Windlass. I believe some of the equipment of the LoTR movies was also sourced from India but I maybe wrong here
>>64995699https://lordofbattles.com/They have huge inventory of Euro copies
>>64992516Indian food is delicious. Just buy it from restaurants in western countries where they have to meet health regulations. >>64995699I'm more into armor. There are a handful of western resellers who get their shit produced in India, and it genuinely requires regular visits or they'll start making stuff that will kill the wearer. I don't even mean>Weak steel, ok for larpingBut>Hey if you kneel in that it's going to ram a piece of steel into your throatBad. That's not even close to the worst I seen. So yeah, inferior China is fairly accurate. The Chinese require you to assume anyone you haven't vetted is competent but dishonest. Indians are a grab bag of scammers and genuine well meaning incompetence.
>>64985103USB-A was designed by a jeet
>>64995801no wonder it sucks so much.
>>64984555Absolutely zero health concerns in metal industry.
>>64989774is that why all the props in game of thrones always look like ass?
>>64992516>>64995737the only jeet food I even semi regularly eat is chicken tiki marsala which I'm pretty sure was made in bongland. I'm fine with never eating indian food, it's meh as fuck
>>64984555It's just cheap and disposable labor. I find it funnier that china owns the katana export market. Nips literally cucked themselves out of the sword market by kneecapping their blacksmiths.
>>64995959china would rape them anyway due to manpower and more access to steel and not giving a shit about selling shitty steel
>>64996002Not so sure of that. Japan has a VERY respectable share of the knife making market. If they were allowed to freely make and sell swords, they would certainly be successful. Sure, China would still win in volume, but Japan would mog in quality and attention to detail and attract more serious buyers.
>>64995959Countries with sword control laws are the funniest shit. Like some real medieval dumbasses. Any criminal can just make a BP gun anywhere on the planet, but nah man it's the swords you gotta look out for.
>>64996013I have no doubt japan would win on quality. china just has the steel, the price point and the lack of ethics >>64996016japan's gun control law is literally>the gun and sword control law
>>64992516I disagree. It's all slop and I have never felt anything while eating it. It's like food without passion. If we are using the le food excuse anyways I'd rather have infinity spics here than any jeets
>>64996002You can't call them self-respecting, but what true and honest Nipponophile would ever buy a katana from China? Much disonnarabu
>>64996056China makes really good katanas these days. They ironically make more durable katanas than Japan, since the only thing you're getting out of Japan are rare traditionally made swords.China will get you a sword with a modern spring steel for a couple hundred bucks that will BTFO any Japanese sword. If you want to actually use it, especially as a learner, China is easily the way to go. If you want a really cool (expensive) wallhanger, Japan is great.
As far as swords go one of the dumbest bottlenecks is industrial logistics. From what I can tell, 1/4" or 6mm is an insanely common thickness for bar stock. That makes swords feel dead in the hand and like an incel subreddit, a few extra mm of steel genuinely makes the difference between a good feeling and a shitty handling sword. And since most original 18/19th century sword started at 7-9 or even 11-12+mm thick at the ricasso, that lets them grind down the blade to really shape the feeling in hand. Also why Patent Solid Hilts where the grip has a sandwich construction and a full sized tang feel a lot better in the hand or more lively because there is more steel to start with. All this to say many non-custom sword makers suck because if they dont source their own spec steel, they are using standard stuff which fucks them from the gate. LK Chen in China like others have mentioned seems to actually be bucking the trend and sourcing proper thick steel. It is less economical and has a lot more waste but whatever. TodCutler/Tod/you know who I am talking about has some pretty robust knives (even if my rondel had an off-center tip grind) so it can be done. So when we get to India which HAD but no longer HAS an artisanal skilled trade class with literally millennia of cumulative experience, they're gonna be looking to profit maximize and use 6mm barstock, shitty heat treat (which can be fixed yourself if you are determined), and have what are effectively long rulers with bevels on the side instead of feeling like actual swords.
>>64992516>>64995737>>64995927Where did all these Britfags come from? I was looking foreword to them being completely banned off 4chan by their Rothschild emperor.
>>64984855>.556
>>65001751I'm American, not a bong and I agree
