Why do people zero in their lasers?Make it make senseI picked two completely random hypothetical villains as hypothetical targets to accurately represent modern society in this hypothetical scientific thought experimentAny resemblence to existing persons is purely coincidental
>>64986050>Why do people zero in their lasers?They're useless if they aren't zeroed.I think what you're trying to ask, but failing at, is why people use the upper method rather than the lower one. The reason, which ought to be obvious, is that laser sights are meant for short range use where the kind of parallax error you're asking about would be negligible. Nobody uses a laser at distances long enough for that to be a problem.
>>64986112If you keep your laser parallel the difference is always negligible while also effective at any range
>>64986050zero it at the rabbi, or the furthest distance you are likely to aim with the laser
With a sight below a barrel, a parallel sight IS sighted in. The bullet will fall into the laser's line. For example, a parallel laser mounted 2 inches below a 9mm bore will be sighted in to about 37 yards, since a 9mm will travel about 37 yards in the time it takes for it to drop 2 inches.Lasers mounted on the sides, though, yeah, adjusting windage to be simply parallel instead of zeroed makes some sense.But in practice, lasers are meant for such quick and close shooting that they often aren't adjusted to match any ideals at all, or they might completely lack the ability to be adjusted.
>>64986050Your image is kind of wrong since bullets fly in an arc, real life is not hitscan. That said, when I zero lasers I do take into account any horizontal offset and make sure it remains as close to parallel as possible.
>>64986112Fpbp, pack it up boys
>>64986050You forgot about bullet drop.
>>64987116so you point the laser more downward?
>>64986050Why not zero to have point of impact zero on the further target? You still hit the closer target, can accurately hit further targets with the laser, and if you dont see laser then its far enough to take time with irons.
>>64987121Nope, the laser might already be parallel with the bore and the shots will still land below the laser after maybe 50 feet. Because Gravity doesn't like fun.
>>64987130damn that's crazy
>>64986118You've never actually shot a pistol have you?
>>64988446pistols are the most meme weapon ever they are literally designed for criminalsno military usageuseless in close quarters combat and self defense unless by the elderly or children
>>64987116Just make the laser curved parallel to the bullet, dumbass.
>>64988450so like that anon said you're a turdie /pol/troon nogunsgreat thread
>>64986050When parallel to barrel in your picture, the laser is several inches below the POI, meaning that if you are also using your gun sights, the profile of the handgun completely obscures the laser at ranges under 20 yards. What good is a laser dot if you cannot even see it while properly holding a handgun? You would only see the dot if you plan to hip-fire or some shit like that. A properly zeroed laser will have the dot visible slightly above your sights at 10 yards and still visible out to 20 yards. The laser should supplement proper aiming, not replace it. Its similar to co-witnessing a red dot sight, in that you benefit from it if you are firing from a proper shooting posture and using muscle memory to aim correctly.
>>64988494Here is the co-witnessed pistol red dot sight mentioned above. Your laser should be zeroed in a similar manner. This way all your years of training at the range with only irons pays off. Repetition and muscle memory are going to matter even more when in a high stress self defence situation.
>>64986050That picture is so retarded
>>64988472Why not bend the bullet upwards?
>>64986112>parallaxOFFSET
>>64986050Just zero it in at a further distance retard
>>64986050obviously I don't want to hit the rabbi
This thread is a churn troll.
>>64986050Why is it a straight line in the bottom pic, bullets dont go in straight lines
>>64990277Damn, that's genius. Why don't we just fire bullets on an upward curved trajectory in order to counter drop?
>>64986050How do you get it parallel?I did the above method in OP pic because it was easy, I figured i wouldn't get into a gunfight at more than 15 feet so aimed it at a wall 15 feet away and brought the laser dot to the sight zero. I'm too retarded to figure out how to parallel it though please help.
>>64987116The laser drops too dumbass, it's subject to gravity just like anything else.
>>64988494If you're taking the time to aim down your sights to take an accurate shot, you don't want the laser obscuring your vision. Laser is for oh shit moments to get quick shots off without having to even get the gun up to your face to aim it. If you're taking the time to aim it just use your damn sights.
>>64993458Said no /k/ommando, ever.
>>64993695>Something that has no mass being by gravity >Even if true it having a dramatic effect on the light at pistol ranges
this goes to my k/humor folder
Light IS indirectly effected by gravity though through gravitational lensing caused by the warping of spacetime. That anon was right but for all the wrong reasons
>>64993718>>Something that has no mass being by gravityGeneral relativity is over 100 years old at this point, anon. So yes, massless particles are indeed subject to gravity.But yeah, it's not going to have a measurable, let alone noticeable effect.
>>64993718Just let the laser out of your hand and see what happens. If it stays in the air, I'll agree with you.
>>64994055Yeah I read up on it after I posted. Felt like a dummy. But yeah at pistol ranges it is not going to be a factor.
>>64986123>With a sight below a barrel, a parallel sight IS sighted in. The bullet will fall into the laser's line.This. Just know where the trajectory intersects the beam, and everything inside that p-o-i is basically a non-issue. (unless you do crazy shit like having huge assed standoffs for your LAM or some bullshit)
>>64986050Isn't the same true for zeroing the sights?
>>64986050Zeroing a laser means making sure it's not completely off. If you install it and don't zero it there is no way to tell if your shots will land where you point it.And yes, parallel zeroing is a preferred method because if gives consistent offset over handgun distances which are up to 25, maybe 50m maximum. Bullet drop is negligeable.
>>64994040Unironically it does drop due to gravity, the difference is that light is the fastest thing in this universe so it's not noticeable at Earth/Sol scale.
>>64995196I know anon, I know. The amount of stuff we dont know about the universe is stunning.
>>64994783At that point you could even set your sights to 100+ meters and only use them when you're out of laser range.
>>64986118Did you forget that bullets drop?
>>64995196Light in a vacuum doesn't have mass, so it's not affected by gravity. The reason black holes are black is not because they affect light but because they affect spacetime, along which light travels travels linearly.
>>64988450You didn't answer his question.
>>64986050uh, your gravity, sis?
i hope you nerds don't actually use lasers sights on your pistols.
>>64988450>First they came for the pistol owners>I didn't speak up because I was not a pistol owner.
>>64986050please kill yourself you goddamned retard.
>>65000803Nah, too expensive. Might be fun to play around with, tho. >>65001217>Doesn't actually understand what's going on>Just likes to swear at people.
>>65000803The only pistol I have with a laser is my Shield Plus but that's only because the laser came included with the flashlight.
>>64990278>>parallax>OFFSETDIVERGENCE
>>64993474>Why don't we just fire bullets on an upward curved trajectory in order to counter drop?This makes sense, as the earth surface is curved. If you believe in that sort of thing.
>>65003319You should have bought a Glock brande Glock.
>>65003956>about two decades now.Please be more precise with your estimates.
>>65001238die, and take your retarded reddit thread with you pajeet poster.
>>64986050>why do people zero their laser?You…. Know what zeroing is, right? You know optics and lasers aren’t just perfectly aligned when you bolt them on, right?
>>64997996>light isn’t affected by gravity >proceeds to describe exactly how light is affected by gravity
>>65004299Hit a nerve, have I? Maybe do something more entertaining than showing up and spouting shit next time.
>>65004309>You know optics and lasers aren’t just perfectly aligned when you bolt them on, right?...Y'know, if someone has only used iron sights there's a distinct possibility that they've never had to zero their sights.
>>65003956This
>>64997964If you're using a pistol at a range where bullet drop is a consideration you should probably just be running away
>>65005083Generally speaking, it's usually safer to run than to shoot back.
>>65004017>warned for thislmao jannie needs to lay off the estrogen as wellban me homo
>>65004029Nah, I don't like them.
>>65009144>ban me so i get a break from work
>>65004311What the fuck does it even mean for something to travel in a straight line if it's not in reference to spacetime? Light in a vacuum doesn't curve, it travels linearly along spacetime.
