Fat Amy or Slim Amy?
>>64987082Honestly I don't care for the shape of the slim amy, that backside slopes down too far and leaves too narrow of a body giving it a pseudo-sukhoi gooseneck
>>64987082The superior YF-23
>>64987082slim amy looks better without those retarded protrusions>but you see this thing over herefuck off
>>64987093Slim Amy was developed by Shenyang which has a history of reverse engineering Sukhois so that's clearly an influence in the design
I, for one, like both of them. Disregard nationalist dick measuring, enjoy sexy jets.
>>64987082slim amy with fat amy's fat tits
>>64987101The f35 also has an irst in the same spot if you're talking about the thing at the back its probably a radar reflector
>>64987082 There is no slim Amy if you are talking about the fat piece of shit j35.
>>64987517>wenobody cares what you think turdie
>>649874952 engines, less payload, half the range, less stealthy, lights up IR like a christmas tree.
>>64987495Inaccurate graphic as statistics stated as being for J-35A is for FC-31 from over a decade ago.>>64987583>believes it talks about J-35A>ends up describing FC-31 and KF-21
>>64987652 what are the latest stats on the j35 then?
>>64987583You notice how it states the thrust of one but not the other for comparison...hmmm m
>>64987082Which one is invisible ?
>>64987583You do know that this pic was made by some fat seething 300lbs refuse who has since likely died in heart failure, and thus has no bearing on reality?
>>64987082cargo cult vs real
Still get a lol out of this.
>>64987652Ironic that a lying chink shill would post a picture of a concerned cat identified as a dog.
>>64991626Post body. I dare you.
>>64991781Actual irony is you accusing me of lying while you lie about me while demonstrating arrogant ignorant little sniveling shit since stated specifications here >>64987495 are in fact from decade ago taken from Wikipedia.>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shenyang_J-35&oldid=652061869
>>64989951About that...
>>64987082Fat Amy is a slut who lost her V-Card to some random Hashish dealer in a backalley despite being engaged to J-20-kun and promised to have each other's first's. Slim Amy all the way.
>>64987082am i crazy for not seeing that many similarities?
>>64997761
>slim
>>64998107big n slim vs small and fat
>>64998126I love shortstacks
>>64987082only one of these is a 5th gen and it's not the chinkjet, so fat amy.>inb4 t-then it's a 6th genno, it's not.
>>64998231why?
>Fat AmyI've only ever heard envious turdies call it that
>>64987082>Fat Amy or Slim Amy?The Amy does what Amy's are actually supposed to do and not the Becky made to look like an Amy (due to various insecurities)
>>64998245because the F35 has actual advanced stealth coating and sensor fusion.
>>64998282understandablewhy can't the other possibly have it?
>>64998284You can't ask such questions. Just eat up the narrative goy.
>>64998284>>64998320Chang, we're not impressed. Its really that simple.
>>64998324you're doing a ver poor job moshe
>>64995346Except fat Amy has better eyes and can see slim Amy from all the way across the ocean even though she's fatter. Radar wins the fight.
>>64998353>if you make fun of chinks and their shills you are jewishsure bud.
>>64991781It no taste same retahh
>>64999368The F-35 either has an outdated Gallium Arsenide based radar, or no radar. The new Gallium Nitride one isn't being delivered at all due to the shortage and manufacturing problems so the next 100 F-35 have dumbbell weights instead of radar.https://theaviationgeekclub.com/us-military-could-receive-more-than-100-f-35s-without-radar/
>>64987082The J-35 is obviously way more air-to-air focussed. The F-35 makes huge compromises kinematically to fit more internal fuel for range, but that makes it way less capable for air-to-air obviously.Since the F-35 is a strike fighter (with limited self-defense capability in air-to-air), the range is kind of required.
>>65001550>due to the shortage and manufacturing problemsNot due to problems with the radar, but due to locksneed shartin dragging their feet on block 4 integration.
Slim Amy is what the Fat Amy would have looked like without the retarded M*rine and N*vy requirements.
>65001875good. color revolutions must be squashed.no exceptions.
>>65001622Strange, considering that slim Amy is a naval aircraft and inherits design compromises from fat Amy as a result of being copied from stolen plans.
>>64987082 It should be anorexic Amy being the j35 and Amy being the F-35. Since the j35 is a pathetically weak engined jet.
>>65001938Who cares what chinks think is suitable for carriers. They couldn't even make it single engine. The better F-35 would have a better fineness ratio for less drag AKA less fat. The main limitation was the VTOL edition not Navy.
>>65001959Apart from the F-35, how many single engine jet fighters has the Navy adopted?
>>65001959>They couldn't even make it single engineplanes should have backup engines
>>64987495>rhino tier endurance So this thing will never actually fly with a stealthy load out outside of point interceptions
>>65001925color revolutions don't exist and are a thirdie dictatorship's way to cope with the fact that thirdie dictatorships are inherently unstable and prone to collapse.
>>65001975Now that the drones are supposed fill the low end bulk, the low end manned planes make no sense. So yes.
>>65001556>with limited self-defense capabilitywhy do retards always say this about multiroles?no anon, it's a fucking multirole, and because it's a really damn good multirole it can squash most other designs on the planet in head-to-head engagements, the biggest design compromise it suffers from is being bad at actually intercepting something at long range and doing do quickly because of it's low top speed.
Here is a single engine jet that the navy used.
>>65001550>le no radar lie againgood way to instantly out yourself as someone not interested in good-faith discussion>le outdated radarjust reading off the bad-faith talking points in your metoditchka script one by one, i see.stop humiliating yourself with this godawful script, chinkshill.
Another.
>>65002000ahh yes, china, the most unstable and prone to collapse country in the world
>>65001973Something like 8. And that's just fighters.
>>65002034>he said, unironically, not a hint of irony in his fucking voicehahaha, holy shit, what do they teach you gen-zedong kids in school?yes, anon, dictatorial shitholes are unstable and they are bad at reading or responding to the discontentment of their people, the CIA isn't the omnipotent mastermind of everything that you schizophrenic fags accuse them of being, color revolution theory is complete and utter horseshit, dictatorships collapse because they are dictatorships and they fucking suck at reading their own pulse.
>>65001957>F-35>Powerplant: 1 × Pratt & Whitney F135-PW-100 afterburning turbofan, 28,000 lbf (120 kN) thrust dry, 43,000 lbf (190 kN) with afterburner>J-35>Powerplant: 2 × Guizhou WS-19 afterburning turbofans >Maximum thrust: 22,000–26,000 lbf (98–116 kN; 9,979–11,793 kgf) with afterburnerdoesn't seem that underpowered if you ask me
>>65002063So you're saying that China, a country that has had a 1.2 trillion dollar surplus last year is collapsing
>>65002075don't make questions goyeat slop and stay quiet goy
>>65002075>s-so you're saying china is collapsing RIGHT NOW?!nice strawman and loaded question, faggot.>so you're saying that china, the country that has collapsed an uncountable amount of times throughout history, is prone to collapsingyes, my retarded friend.>b-but what about the chinese bubble, c-china stronk!you really need to pick a stupider audience to peddle your metoditchka to, nu/pol/ would happily eat up your china implessive threads like a pig rolling in oats, this place is way slower so trying to crack consensus by spamming doesn't work very well here.
>make fat aircraft>still doesn't' have enough rangeMAKE IT FATTER THEN
>>65002085How is it collapsing? Please share your wisdom.
>>65002081stop talking to yourself, it's embarrassing behaviour.>don't make questionsESL moment.and yeah, do ask questions, just not disingenuous loaded ones based on a false premise, like you've been doing.
>>65002091>doubles down on strawmanlol, instant chinkshill mindbreaksee >>65002085
>>65002096Thank you for confirming you're full of crap
>>65002103>f-fuck, he didn't walk into my loaded questionbecause it's a loaded question, you sub-50 IQ /pol/yp.i never said>china is collapsing right now guiseyou created this strawman and inside your head and then attacked it, instead of my argument.what i said was>the state that has collapsed over and over and over again will likely collapse again in the futurewhich you sounded baffled by, because you're a fucking retard and you don't know anything about history.i accept your concession.
I rest my case
>>65002116i wonder how effective the unpaid useful idiots of the global south would be if they were not 24/7 trying to engage in gotcha games, lying, doublespeak, and other silly bad-faith games like that. if they instead just fucking argued their points, sure they would lose most of the time, but at least they would be presenting themselves as a respectable party to conversation and not a deceitful entity that should just be laughed out of the room because engaging with it just amounts to playing chess with a shitting pigeon.
>>65002127>gets angry when color revolution theory bullshit is called out>displays comedic level of delusion about chinese history>ignores argument, attacks nonexistent spectre instead>shits himself>loses argument>declares victory anyway>"i-i rest my case">leaves defeatedkek
>65002135>spill a bunch of bullshit>desperately try to save face when confronted with a simple question (You)
>>65002140>spill a bunch of bullshityeah, like arguing against an argument that wasn't made in the first place, that's quite a bit of bullshit.>d-desperately try to save face when confronted with my strawman loaded questionlet's backtrack a bit heremy first post was>>65002000>color revolutions are a bullshit cope theorythis is true, you had no argument to respond with, but you had to throw out a millennial zinger response.>>65002034>a-ah yes china, the most unstable and prone to collapse country in the worldif you actually knew your shit, you knew this was grounds for immediate bullying and humiliation, because china as a country has completely shattered to pieces more than 5 times during it's lifetime.then, knowing you had fucked up, you backtracked, moved goalposts, and invented a strawman argument inside your head that i never made, that being>china's government is collapsing right now, as of this moment.>>65002075i pointed this out >>65002085and then you proceeded to black out and double down in a sheer panic >>65002091then, after i did not engage with your intentional lie, screech that i am full of shit >>65002103boy, you better hope china doesn't have a budget for culling overzealous useful idiots, because you just made china lose face harder than any trueborn wumao ever could.total contrarian chinkshill living in the west humiliation, what the fuck were you even hoping to accomplish? you never even tackled the original point, which is that claiming every moment of instability in inherently unstable dictatorial structures is a glowie op, is fucking retarded.
>>65002241she's so pretty.
>>65002012Cause it has high wing loading, shit turn rates, low service ceiling, low top speed, and is universally mocked as "fat amy" by actual fighter pilots for being a penguin.The idea it could go up against a real air-to-air superiority fighter is ludicrous.
>>65002271>cuz it has high wing loadingit doesn't, it's also a lifting body and a lot of the loading isn't on the wings, it's about on par for high alpha turns with an F18 but can also conserve and generate energy like an F16>shit turn ratesincorrect, as stated above, also, AIM9X, dipshit.>low service ceilingnot really>low top speedirrelevant, as pointed out earlier>is universally mocked as fat amyno, this is a retarded reformer meme that luddites, ziggers, and other assorted retards spam as loudly as possible every chance they get, doesn't actually make it so.do pilots call it fat amy? sure, but for them it's a term of endearment.>t-the ideathen why are all the thirdie planes so scared to engage it? why didn't that yak-130 that it fucking splattered over tehran use it's superior wingloading to style on the F35, you retard?it's a multirole, a stealthy one at that, and an F16, a rafale, a J10, a J-16, a J35, a J20, a KF-21 or any number of russian air superiority platforms would all get dogwalked by an F35 in air-to-air combat.this makes you mad because you got psyopped by propaganda and admitting that is so embarrassing that you'd rather double down on the lie.
>>65002296Well you are simply wrong, no other way to put it.You seem very emotionally involved, ignoring basic facts.
>>65002012Because people still don't realise that 99% of modern 'multirole-ness' is just sensor suites and software packages. The same kinds of people that probably aren't aware that the F-15A was certified for all sorts of A2G ordinance, because the mythical 'not a pound for air to ground' mantra was already kind of at odds with how fourth generation airframes would play out.
>>65002296Not saying it's never happened but I don't think I've seen an F-35 driver or someone who actually works with the plane call it fat amy, in my experience it's entirely been a forced meme.
>>65002321You might be more familiar with her other nickname, "Battle Penguin".
>>65002313I still haven't seen a convincing argument for why the concept of roles should even exist beyond the fourth gen. When everything is BVR and the only things these matter are sensors, stealth, range, and payload, why shouldn't we just load out a B-21 with enough AIM-260s to shoot down the entire PLAAF and send it hunting?
>>65002344Of course you end up being confused when you believe the dumb idea that stealth is a be-all-end-all solution magically solving all problems and making kinematics irrelevant.The reality is stealth is one advantage, and like many other advantages, it eventually is negated.The eternal arms race never stops.
>>65002200>because china as a country has completely shattered to pieces more than 5 times during it's lifetime.If God was real, he must be a clown for making a creature like you.
>>65002321I've heard pilots of other airframes call it Fat-Amy though. F35 pilots are trying to force the nickname "Leopard"
>>65002370And when was the last time kinematics made a difference for a stealth aircraft?
>>65002344We've never seen a modern peer conflict, and we've never even seen significant combat between two competent militaries operating 4th gens. Right now I think there's an unwillingness to over-commit to a direction.I think we might be more likely to see the VLO missile truck job taken up by drones. If the human operator needs to be in the airspace instead of just near it in a Wedgetail, then you put them in the more flexible and survivable fighter just in case.There's also something to be said for the fact that even if in the next five years sensors advance to wildly outpace VLO design or China manages to sink your RAM coating top-up barge or whatever, the F-35 remains a supremely capable aircraft for BVR, dogfighting and A2G roles. I don't think it'll happen, but I'd rather have the plane for it and not need it than be stuck with missile trucks that glow in the dark.
>>65002600Probably in a majority of A2A shots they've made this war. Launch parameters affect weapon performance. Having high speed means your missile has a larger NEZ, having a better roll rate, turn rate, energy retention and acceleration means you can more quickly transition from defensive to offensive and vice versa. Stealth isn't a cloaking device, shooting from further away, having more margin to evade and more authority to decide when each plane will be offrnsive or defensive all matter.
>>64987082The one that tanked a SAM hit and limped back to base. I think that is slim amy, because it only needs 1 engine.
>>64989951Neither.One is harder to detect than the other, though.
>>65002801don't be obtuse; obviously going even just 1kph lends a teensy bit better performance to a missile, but it's not a statistically significant advantage as >>65002600 was askinghaving a difference =/= making a difference
>>65002000They're too stupid to understand that defacto 1-party systems are inherently unstable because there is no peaceful way to transfer power.
>>65002814The kinematic difference between a missile launched by a mach 2.2 F22 and a mach 0.8 B21 are enormous, without even considering the better launch conditions achievable from better roll and turn rate.That is the scenario originally mooted, and that is a fucking enormous amount of "making a difference"
>>65002068It does if you realize comblocs always oversell their stats while democracies always undersell their stats.
>>65002801>a majority of A2A shots they've made this war>A2ASo... none?
>>65002068>F-35 engine makes more power dry than a J-35 engine with afterburnerHoly shit lmao
>>65002910The forthcoming ECU for block 4 planes is also expected to add up to 10% more thrust while cutting fuel use by about 6%. The F135 is an absolute monster of an engine, it's basically a beefed up next gen version of the F-22's F119. They even had plans to do a hybrid of the F135 and features intended for P&W's F-47 proposal but it was knocked back for being a bit too ambitious.
>>65002910>196kN dry The J-35 has more thrust dry than the F-35 on full afterburner. It's two engines
>>65003469He's comparing the individual engines, not each plane's overall thrust.
>>65002910>big engine makes more thrust than a small one wowgroundbreaking insights.
>>65003530Oh well. It's two small engines vs a single big engine
>>65002423>n-noI accept your concession, china has collapsed more than 5 times throughout it’s history and you have no response other than crying like a little bitch, you lost.
>>65002063>they are bad at reading or responding to the discontentment of their peopleChina literally has a government hotline where citizens can call up and complain about issues in their towns, dirty litter, corrupt government officials, and they get financially rewarded if the problem gets fixed.
>>65002302>y-you’re wrongSo no argument, i accept your concession
>>65003579Yes, and russia pretends that you can make pleas directly to the czar and he will actually give a shit.
>>65003609there are far more Chinese people happy with their government than Americans happy with their government.
>>65003618And other funny stories you can tell yourself.
>>65003631I read what Chinese people write on youtube, you listen to garbage CIA propaganda.
>>65003634Why always the CIA? Do you know how many different flavours of glowies the US has, not even getting into five eyes? Be at least a little more creative man, come on.
>>65003639CIA, NSA, whoever spouts out bullshit propaganda about China, it's obvious that it's bullshit, you get everything you think you know about China from them.
>>65003634>i listen to what china allows onto youtubeKek>CIA p-propaganda!Exactly this again, what is it with you retards and claiming the CIA is this all powerful entity that causes all of your favourite shitholes to destabilize?Color revolution theory is thirdie cope, dictatorships are inherently unstable, they don’t need an all-powerful CIA magically causing every bit of civil unrest. china not collapsing right now right this instant is not an argument against this concept.
>>65003645>whoever spouts your bullshit propagandaWe don’t do that, you’re projecting.>i-it’s obvious that it’s bullshitWhich is why you’ve been completely unable to reply with anything other than>ur a meani ur wrong!!111!!!Like a child having a tantrum.
>>65003669>We don’t do that, you’re projecting.That's most of the reporting your country does about China. America's intelligence agencies feed its media narratives laced with lies to spout out propaganda about China.
>>65003681Do not attribute to glowies what is more easily explained by politics and shitty journalism.
>>65003681Cry about it, Chang.
>>64987082Slim Amy looks better and since looks are only thing that matters, Slim Amy is a better plane
>>65003681>nooo, china isn’t one of the most polluted countries on earth, that’s CIA propaganda!lol>shitty journalism and clickbait is CIA propaganda direct from the source!I don’t think you understand how free press works.
>>65003877Slim amy looks like shit compared to the toned abs of the F35.Slim amy is an extremely forced meme in and of itself, 95% of the instances of it’s use on this board are chinkspam threads.
>>65003925>I don’t think you understand how free press works.The CIA and other government agencies bribe the media to push narratives not favourable to China. Bribery is rampant in America, all the way to the highest levels of the American government.
>>65003942Repeating>i-it’s the CIA, everything is CIA!20x in a row is not a conversation, it’s you spazzing out and talking to yourself when your schizophrenic narrative is questioned.
>>65003974Could be the CIA, could be any other American government agency, bottomline is its American propaganda.
>>65003985>bottomline is it’s my fantasyYeah, in the real world, thousands of different outlets are all doing their own thing, most of them driven by clicks, some going for >it’s so over for le USAnd some going>it’s so over for le china.The only difference is that the latter is slightly closer to reality.There is plenty of real embarrassing stuff going on in china to report on, your obsessive idea that media need funding from feds to do this is retarded.
>>65003994>are all doing their own thing,lmaoAmerica sees China as a rival, expecting accurate reporting of China from America is like expecting your ex-gf to accurately describe what kind of person you are without making you seem as if you were a villain.
>>65002855>That is the scenario originally mootedyes, but the post I replied to said:>>65002801>Probably in a majority of A2A shots they've made this waremphasis:>THIS WAR
>>65004001>nooooo american media is a monolith with a centralized decisionmaking process like chinaNo, it isn’t, thank you for playing.
>>65003930>toned absmore like cellulitis she's a fat girl
Forgive my lack of knowledge but isn't it better to have two engines in a maritime aircraft so in case of malfunction the aircraft can crawl back to base/carrier/whatever? Helicopters usually have two engines for that reason no?
>>64987082I want B-2 flat
>>65004383in the old days, yes, it was considered *nice* to have two engines on carrier jets because a flameout, especially on takeoff right after being catapulted, was quite deadly for pilotsbut these days, engines are more reliable and we have good ejection systems so it's less of a prioritythe F-35 for example has an amazing flight safety record compared to certain other aircraft (cough F-14 cough)
>Fat Amyfriendly reminder that this term is used exclusively by chinkshills and other thirdies
>>65004383Yes, you are FUCKED if your only engine dies in the middle of the ocean though that's usually prevented with OCD maintenance schedules.However, this is /k/. If (You) have two engines is good but if (They) have two engines is bad, same applies to a single engine.
>>65004249They are toned abs
>>65004401(They) cant build an engine powerful and reliable enough to use only one
>>65004416Thank you for confirming what I just said
>>65004422well im glad the we agree on the inferiority of chinese jet engines
>>65002091All autocracies are inherently unstable. Leader is gone, the entire society goes down with him. Democracies, on the other hand, are extremely robust. You can remove entire cabinets of people and the societal structure stays put. Hell, democracies essentially do this every election season
>>64987082Slim Amy of course
>>65004406Nah man, it only looks like abs when you look at it directly from below. Look from an angle or a side and you realize its actually a lordosis gut
>>64987082I like them T H I C C.
>>64987495>gee Billy, two engines??
>>64987082Big Khazar Milkers Amy.
>>65004873>Rockledge DriveThat's not his home address btw, that's the headquarters.>t. went to high school across the street 20 years ago
>>65004397Wonder how many engines navy 6th gen will have
>>65004228All the more wild considering that the sinobu is posting Chinese propaganda on an American website.
>>65002984Adabptive cycle engines with CMC are so fucking cool.
>>64987082Why does slim Amy have a nutsack though, is it a trans fighter?From what we know the J-35 seems somewhat like a twin engine J-17, shaped to look like an F-35, very much built for export to the global south. Palmer Lucky utterly trashed it but then again he was intentionally trolling the wumao and succeeded. Also F-35 has performed fine, more than fine actually considering it is intended to be mostly front aspect stealthy and isn't as good from the sides but she did fine enough against what we're supposed to be highly credible defense radars (and proceeded to queef on them). If one was engaged (and not even shot down) successfully it was clearly via IR SHORAD, of which Iran has some little dinky ones on trucks so tiny it probably wasn't noticed, and the F-35 was flying probably really really fucking low to be within its dinky range. Of which, the fucking point of IR is that stealth doesn't work on it. And the USN needs to not be so cocky if there are various smaller IR based systems still circulating around Iran.
>>65002000They forget the youth bulge from Western medicine too. Only so many pay off jobs to go around.
>>65002000turd worlders like to cope about the CIA/Mossad/MI6/Jews/Wall Street being the secret masters behind everything.its easier for them cope that way.>is our unstable economically decrepit state going to collapse because of our own decisions? no surely it is a mustache twirling super villain hiding out in Washington/NY/Tel Aviv/LondonChile and Allende is a good example. Allende was already destroying the Chilean economy before Nixon and Kissinger ever even started talking about it. There were multiple coup plans that had arisen domestically before the CIA started to pay attention to it. King Idris of Libya is another example. He was overthrown in 1969 and there is nothing to suggest the US had any role in it but many Arab leaders thought it was the result of a secret CIA plot. Nixon didn't mind them thinking that because it helped with his "mad man" image lol.
>>65002068>f35 singleengine makes double the thrust of a dual engine fighter Lmao. Chinese engines are awful. >>65002091Oil import status?
>>65006395antisemitism has always been a cope
>>65006395>The the secret history twilight of America's thirty-year war conflict with Iran
>>65006417NTA but when orange man died there were discussions of a twin engine Amy I just about came my pants from the thought of twin f-135s. It already has thrust better than a mig-29 and is about the same as a super hornet. From ONE ENGINE. Fucking thing with duals would tear the face off the pilot and be like mach 3 capable probably, as long as they were fine burning the RAM off to outmaneuver something. Or just give it ceramic ram that doesn't melt off but I don't know if those are out of testing yet.
>>65006434Also lmao phone correct, meant to say "when orange man said"
>>65006434Imagine if the Navy's "we're going to use a mature engine for FA-XX" statement actually meant twin F-135s.
>>65006434>when orange man diedI knew it
>>65006421>antisemitism has always been a-ACKThey're the progintors of slave morality, they deserve the hate, from browns or otherwise.
>>65006417Russia is just a stone throw away from them you know?
>>65004897They are abs from every angle, sorry bud.
>>65004873>random seething irrelevant to the threadThe J35 is a piece of shit so it’s not surprising contrarians flock to it.
>>64987082>Fat Amy or Slim Amy?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub747pprmJ8
>>65006421Antisemitism is most definitely not a cope
>>65007440How do you know? No data has been made public about it
>>65002321I play Dcs with a few navy pilots, and they claim for them it’s just “f35”, no nickname
>>65007892>How do you know?Because its a literal cargo-cult project.
>>65007964Any specific data?
>>65002321I've only ever heard envious turdies use it
>>65007968>>65007892>No data has been made public about it>therefore it must be awesomestest because>because>because it JUST LOOKS AWESOMEESTEST OKAY!!1!
>>65007968Canopy opens forward because the F-35's does. The F-35's canopy only does that because of the VTOL variant. If thats the degree of engineering that went into it, its trash.
>>65007973Relax bro>>65007975Interesting. Anything else?
>>65007990Nothing else is required.
>>65007991Why? Sea Rafale's canopy also opens forward
South Korea makes a better looking jet than china.
>>65002068>needing two engines to still lose to a single enginewhy do chinks insist on embarrassing themselves?
>>65009986The two chink engines are more powerful together than the one American engine, though. 44-52 vs 43.
>>65009986It's 196-232kn vs 120-190kn
>>64998107I know that aircraft converge on similar layouts from time to time because everyone's working towards the same goals with the same laws of physics, but I'll never be able to get over the J-35.The name too, though I could see that being a clumsy attempt to make clear it's intended as an export rival to the F-35.It probably wouldn't stand out so much if not for the J-20 being such a significant departure from everyone else's planes and concepts.>>64995664Side-on is where they have probably the least resemblance, probably because it has to accomodate two smaller engines instead of a single massive one.
>>65010200>clumsy attempt to make clear it's intended as an export rival to the F-35undoubtedly
>>65002015The A-4 is one of the most perfect aircraft ever designed
>>65010200>the J-20 being such a significant departure from everyone else's planes and concepts.It's just a bullpupped F-22.
>>65007892>cargo cult project>no data has been made public>yet all the chinese shills keep shilling for it and making spam threads like the OP telling everyone it’s greatIf it was actually a good jet it wouldn’t need a brigade of people defending it.
>>65007990>r-relax broYou’re getting angry that a chinese fighter jet is getting bullied right now, lil’ bro.
>>65010758are you okay?
Yuri. F-35 tops.
>>65010818you aren't, so you need to stop feigning concern when i'm pointing that out.
>>64987082Slim Amy. The Sukhoi-esque fuselage looks very nice.
Go slim or go home
>>65021261>angry and obsessed chinkshill returns and posts it again>still too retarded to understand that this makes the (forced meme) "slim amy" J35 look bad.i mean, feel free to humiliate yourself all over again, why not, angry and obsessed chinkshill.
>65021290lol
>>65021322>I-IF I PRETEND TO BE SMUG AND UNBOTHERED HARDER IT THEY WILL FINALLY BELIEVE ME!you're the one who forces himself to keep coming to /k/ and get humiliated, chinkshill, nobody is forcing you to do this.note how chinkshill only returned after a percieved embarrassment to the US popped up, he's too ashamed of himself to post here otherwise, he's so predictable people were saying this 3 days ago >>65010522he was especially quiet recently because of the J-20 being revealed as a complete failure, and that retarded fuckup with the smoke grenade. being a chinkshill bootlicker truly is an existence of just losing over and over again.
>65021345>something something shit no one cares about meanwhile
>>65021352>i-i am smug and unbothered and make small posts and don't care and i'm not seething pinky promise guys please stop bullying me>btw i think (you)'s are a currency like on my favourite subredditsthat's great, angry and obsessed chinkshill, but that whole act falls flat the moment you keep coming over to a board you don't belong on just to keep spamming these posts, you're angry as fuck and you just can't stop yourself from seething at /k/, especially if you think there's something that in your mind, we would need to save face about.your obsession with our board is a strange one, you can't stop thinking about us and get angry at our superiority, yet you have to keep pretending like this is a fun thing you enjoy doing and you totally don't care, even when you're tormenting yourself and when the shame and embarrassment gets to be too much for you, during moments of extra hard chinese humiliation, you suddenly stop posting here.
>>65021362he's gonna double down and seethe at you over the course of multiple days now to prove how not bothered he is btw, he acts like he doesn't care and yet he just can't stop seething on /k/
>65021362>a million words of seethevery fitting
>>65021367>y-you used big words>i-i j-just pretend to be unbothered while i keep spamming, and seethe in silencethat's great, angry and obsessed chinkshill, but as discussed in a previous post, pretending to be unbothered and then spamming the board like a rabid mofo as you are, doesn't mesh together, it contradicts itself immediately.you are angry, obsessed with /k/, and you are really REALLY bad at hiding it.
>65021372>you are angry>*has a melty live after a singular post*lol
>>65021374>s-stop calling me out>S-STOP IT>I SAID I'M SMUG>I'M UNBOTHEREDS-STOP FORCING ME TO REPLYkek you're seething and you can't help yourself.>n-no YOU'RE having a meltyi'm calmly dissecting your psychology while you jump through hoops trying to act unbothered, when the simple fact that you just can't stop yourself from posting shatters that whole act immediately.
>65021376>caps lock melty
>>65021376The saddest fact about this chinkshill is that he always seethes at this hour to like 3 euro and 1 asian. I really have to wonder what would happen to him when 4chan eventually goes under. Where is he going to seethe at
>replying to yourself to backpedal out of the embarrassmentgrim
>>65021376>caps lock meltythat is what's going on in your head, yes, which is what the greentext was pointing out, i get that you're new to this whole 4chan thing, given the obsession with (you)'s as reddit updoots, but that's what greentexts are for.>i-i don't care and i-i'm going to keep replying with single small sentences until you believe how smug and unbothered i amas pointed out here. >>65021372 these two concepts cannot co-exist.you obsessively spam 4chan, therefore, you are bothered and angry, the fakesmug act accomplishes absolutely nothing but to reinforce that you feel ashamed of this and want to hide it, but it just doesn't work.
>>65021387for >>65021378 and >>65021385
>>65021380>>65021376considering you're way too much of a pussy to stand behind your words, chinkshill, i'll just show you this aint a samefag, and that yes, there really are multiple people happy to watch your next melty go down.
>words words wordsall seethe over slim amy, no substance
sorry chinkshill but just because you samefag obsessively doesn't mean everyone else does.
>emergency inspect element!
>>65021397>w-wordsyes, people that are not buttmad like you are right now, can use words and formulate real sentences.you're stuck between a rock and a hard place because you want to keep seething on this board, yet this automatically brands you as someone obsessed with our superiority, meaning that making minimal posts and pretending to not be angry is your only recourse, the problem is it simply doesn't work anymore, not after years of you having the exact same meltdown pattern.
>>65021401>i-it's inspect element!nuclear level chinkshill cope KEK.this is the guy who's totally smug and unbothered and totally doesn't care btw.
>65021404>our superiority >day 29 of the 12 hour special military operation
i wonder how long this angry and obsessed chinkshill melty will last.three days, five, maybe he will reach 2 weeks before he stops shilling.probably dependent on when the next chinese humiliation comes about, which has been pretty frequent recently.
>angry and obsessedhow rich coming from (You)
>>65021409doesn't work the other way around, angry and obsessed chinkshill.i know that mixed race people such as yourself try to "reverse" memes like that all the time, slim amy being another extremely forced example, but it just doesn't work, because the context is different.really just goes to show how unoriginal the people that shill for third world shitholes for contrarian reasons are, probably the reason why they can't get jobs and have to spend all their time seething about western superiority on /k/.>>65021414>n-no ui'll let you in on a little secret, angry and obsessed chinkshill, (you)'s are not the equivalent of reddit updoots, you're not denying me points by making posts as small as possible and not directly replying, you're just putting on a really weak smug and unbothered act, which falls apart immediately because if you were smug and unbothered, you wouldn't be spamming the board, as you have been for years.
>wall of seethe words>not mad btw
>>65021420>doesn't work the other way aroundit is working quite literally the other way around, what was initially a decapitation strike is becoming a land invasion attempt
this thread is going to further humiliate china and he just can't stop himself, he can't stop having his melty, he NEEDS to seethe at us because something bad happened to US hardware recently and he NEEDS to capitalize on it before the next chinese humiliation comes in, that's how his little chinkshill mind works.>>65021425>NOOOOO YOU MADE A POST YOU'RE SEETHINGi am calmly laying bare your entire existence and all you can do is double down on an act that never worked in the first place, you can't help but reply to everything i say because you want to "win" and the fact that it's not working frustrates you.>n-not mad btwyou are trying very hard to sound not mad and unbothered, it just doesn't work.
craziest of headcanons
>>65021437>i-it's not true>m-my posts just confirm everything you're saying about me!kek, keep posting, angry and obsessed chinkshill, you can't stop, you HAVE to keep up the act.
>>65021443d'awww, you discouraged him, now he can only keep spamming this thread at a slower posting rate, he thinks that will help keep his act together.
>samefagging again
>>65021474>i-it was real in my mindhe just cannot stop himself, he MUST prove how smug and unbothered he is lel.
>>65021509>s-samefaggingKEK>p-posting walls of seethe>B-BIG WORD SCARYyeah as pointed out multiple times in the thread, making small posts does not work as an act, angry and obsessed chinkshill.>n-no uis what you're doing, correct>m-muttsoh chinkmutt, you really should stop humiliating yourself further.
peak mutt rage hours
>>65021528peak chinkmutt rage hours, indeed. he just can't help himself, no amount of small fakesmug zingers are going to mask his rage.
>i will post gore>that will surely show him how i'm not in a seething frenzy!crazy stuff if you think about it
>>65021542>s-stop posting videos of my favourite bugmen dying!>i-it's not funny!it's pretty funny how hard it makes you seethe lol.>t-that will surely show himi'm not here to show you anything, i have nothing to prove, this is my board.you are a visitor here, and you are a visitor here solely because our superiority makes you angry.youcome hereto seetheif you weren't seethingyou wouldn't be coming to us.pretty simple concept.i don't go to r/genzedong or whatever your favourite subreddit is and make a longwinded attempt at pretending to be smug, because unlike you i'm actually happy with my life.
>>65021550>you>come here>to seethe>if you weren't seething>you wouldn't be coming to us.NAYRT but yeah, makes sense to me
>our superiorityyeah... at being mad over China anyways isn't like 03:00 in the night there? you should get some sleep instead of seething
>>65021558and what time is it in your country my swarthy nogunz friend?
>>6502156318:37
>>65021558>at being mad over chinawe're not the ones making threads, anon, you're the one who seems upset about china's inferiority, and you've been helping to prove it for the last few years by continually being one of the most fragile, obsessed and angry posters this board has ever seen.>noooo only americans can laugh at my meltdownsi'm a european and even i think that your shilling and attempts at sounding not mad are absolutely hysterical chinkshill, please, keep seething and putting on a good show for us.
>we're not the ones making threads...and other delusions you can tell yourself
>>65021584NTA but you clearly don't look at the catalog enough
>>65021584don't feed armatard, just ignore him
>>65021567lmao what's it like being a thirdie?
>>65021599>n-nokek
>>65021261 LOL china's j35 is as good as their temu carrier.
>>65021918What's exactly wrong here other than the alarmingly low amount of pixels?
>>65022053the extremely retarded jet blast deflector layout is a good place to start.
>>65022053 There are only 3 emal catapults and only 2 are actually usable.
>>65006440That’d probably never happen since cat and trap weight limits really haven’t changed much since the F-14, and that nearly maxed them out running on F110s. Accommodating those engines on an airframe with any kind of useful range and internal payload would make something so large that it’s unlikely to be carrier compatible unfortunately
>>65021261>need to full burn both engines while fat Amy doesn't have toI don't think this is the own you think it is
>>65022536Anon, there were designs for a navalized F-111.
>>65022541he spent over an hour long coping with this very reality, as you can see ITT.
>>65022559Because McNamara was forcing it on them as a perceived cost saving measure. In the six decades since then the Navy has not asked for nor operated anything approaching that weight class. Arresting gear on US carriers is rated up to about 55klbs, and the F-14s ran into significant operational challenges to land at that weight. A twin F135 design would have to jettison all carried weapons and come in with effectively no excess fuel to even dream of making weight for landing.
>>65002017>Lockheed is lying when they outright state they're delivering the planes without radar. This makes perfect sense because... just shut up, okay?
>>65021345>has no valid rebuttal>starts projectingHow'd they hire a blatant jeet like you? What a waste of taxpayer dollars.
>>65021432>gets his enormous wall of text seethe pointed out>immediately wstarts projecting againYou really are a one-trick pony, aren't you?
>>65022597>i am lying about planes being delivered without radarcorrect, you are, planes are being delivered without the NEW radar, and you tried repeatedly to sell images of a training exercise with an F35 that has a removed radar as evidence of your lie.>j-just shut up okaysounds like you.you're just angry that your metoditchka dies in the womb.>>65022606>have no valid rebuttalwhat valid rebuttal is there to a mentally ill chinkshill having a meltdown and angrily rifling through the same cope folder he's been spamming whenever he gets upset for multiple years now?>j-jeet!kek>>65022611>NOOOO, TALKING IS SEETHE, TALKING IS SEETHE, IF I PRETEND TO BE SMUG AND UNBOTHERED WHILE SPAMMING THE BOARD THEN YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME!sorry these big posts take you a long time to read, they cost me barely any time at all to punch out though, i'm probably just a little faster than you is all.>wstarts projecting againkekanyway>>65022597>>65022606>>65022611holy seethe nigger, just put it all in one post.
>>65001550>the next 1 year of American F-35s will have their new radars delayedboo fucking hooAN/APG-81 already mogs the fuck out of everything else the turd world is flying>>65022801>planes are being delivered without the NEW radarNAYRT but the airframes which will have AN/APG-85 installed won't have the -85 for about a year or two until the radar can be put into productionit's a nothingburger anyway, plenty of APG-81-equipped F-35s around
>>65022591Okay, but the fact that GD drew up plans for it instead of telling him it was impossible suggests that it would have been possible. A Tomcat with a pair of F135s would be 4.5 tons lighter than an F-111.
>>65022867It was a barely workable bad idea that the Navy fought tooth and nail against 60 years ago. It is not feasible today, internal volume demands won’t let it make that all important 55klbs weight limit when the F-35 is already ~30klbs empty. That leaves it 25klbs margin to play with, allowing it to bring back the weapons it went up with and not run to a tanker if it misses a landing attempt like the F-14 had to. One extra F135 deletes ~6500lbs of that margin, not to mention that you also double the internal volume devoted to ducting and the engine itself, which the square cube law hates. On top of that you massively increase fuel consumption, meaning you have to budget more internal volume to fuel to maintain the same range as an F-35. This leaves you running on fumes when you get back to the carrier, and leaves precious little weight and volume for perhaps the most important part of any strike fighter, the weapons. An F-35 can carry 2x2000lb munitions and 2xAMRAAMs at the same time internally. We would be lucky to match that on this bloated monstrosity and still get off the carrier, and would in all likelihood have to dump them into the ocean to land the thing. To put this in perspective, there is one airframe in the entire US inventory that is speculated to use two F135s, or a derivative sharing significant parts, and that is the B-21. That sort of power plant is completely excessive on anything smaller, and would completely compromise the balance of the design just you you could say you have big engines. If you do that there is no room for anything else.
slim >>> fat
F-35 way better looking than the temu fighter j35
J-35 is better
Does the J-35 have a welded metal nose like the J-20 or was chang able to steal data on how to make composite nosecones with the rest of the F-35 plans?
>no static disperserso this is the power of fat amy...
>>65030403Add more of them.
>chinkshill samefagging is in overdriveis this just desperation from the pathetic repetitive spam thread dying or did something blow up in bugland?
Well well wellLooks like we're in for another mutt seethe frenzy
>>65031945>implying chinkmutt seethe ever stopped
>>65002034>looks at Chinese history >stable HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>65004873>James Taiclet>jewish The fuck? Can /pol/ put an Israeli flag next to anybody and call them jewish now?
>>65021261>has to go full afterburner to take off Oooooooooof
>>65030172>>65030251>>65030403Chinkshill is back to seething lmao
