>developed combined-arms armored warfare >First operational jet-powered fighter aircraft>First operational ballistic missile>First operational cruise missile>First mass-produced assault rifle>First widespread operational use of paratroopers>First portable night-vision devices deployed in combat>First loitering munitions what is next ?
>>64991810Probably first deployed caseless ammunition, if the cold war hadn't ended (and it wasn't a swiss watch) the G-11 probably would have made it to field trials.
>First to lose a world war>First to lose a world war twice
>>64991810True pure fusion weapon, krauts are limited by 2+4 treaty, so probably they’ll be looking in that direction
>>64991844>First to lose a world war>FirstNot true, they were the last of the central powers to seek armistice and outlasted also some entente powers
>>64991844>least retarted 50 IQ online dimwit
>>64991844third time's the charm
>>64991810>>First operational cruise missileTechnically USA in WW1 even if propeller powered.
>>64991810actually winning a war for only the second time in their nation's history
>>64991844not just that but>germany is founded in 1870>wins a war vs the frogs in 1871>never wins a single war ever again
They've also invented Ukraine
>>64991810Europeans can't make anything anymore. They're done
>>64992733The best part is that wasn't even technically Germany, that was the North German Confederation of which Prussia was the de facto leader. They have never won a war since Germany unified.
Isnt their scientific community in tatters now?
First doesnt always mean best
They're too analytical and snobby and ironically lack the faustian spirit.
>>64993307The last germans with favstian spirit died during WW2. All the surviving germans are cowards or the descendants of cowards.
>>64991844Russia lost WWI first.
>>64993048>Europeans can't make anything anymorecope the most complex machine ever build is Europeanhttps://youtu.be/h_zgURwr6nAhttps://youtu.be/9RZreu5z_Gc
>>64994075https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2026/03/04/french-german-fighter-program-on-life-support-as-dassault-blames-airbus/>The French-German project to develop a future combat air system appeared closer to failure on Wednesday, after aircraft maker Dassault Aviation blamed partner Airbus for no longer wanting to work together on the next-generation fighter at the heart of the plans.>“If Airbus maintains its position of not wanting to work with Dassault, the matter is dead,” Dassault Aviation Chief Executive Officer Eric Trappier said at a press conference outside Paris on Wednesday, where he showed a slide on FCAS with only a question mark, saying, “I don’t know.’’
>>64991810>>developed combined-arms armored warfare>>First operational jet-powered fighter aircraft>>First operational ballistic missile>>First operational cruise missile>>First mass-produced assault rifle>>First widespread operational use of paratroopers>>First portable night-vision devices deployed in combat>>First loitering munitions>still loseMaybe a win some day? That would be new.
>>64994566>can't make >see no economic incentive to make can't you really not decern the difference between the two ?
>>64991844>Us "good guys" start world wars twice to destroy our european brothers And now look at today where we pretend we were always allies
>>64991810Read "The Arms of Krupp" by William Manchester. He was obviously a biased and salty Anglophile but it was still a great, if fairly lengthy read.
>>64991844>Now the economic, technical, industrial power house of the Continent, thanks to postwar infrastructure paid for by America and autistic Teutonic maintenance and upgrades.Sounds like winning.
>>64993048Europeans are literally the ones making the foundations of industrialized civilization to this day.
>>64991810>developed combined-arms armored warfare Brits in WW1.
>>64994671not true
>>64994671lol
>>64991844>>64992733pretending that ww2 was just one war is retarded. germany beat poland and france, and several smaller states. if beating germany with the combined might of the rest of the world counts as a victory, then germany beating fucking denmark counts as well.
>>64994075>the high NA EUV light source, the most expensive and unique part of the machine, is made exclusively in San Diego
>>64994603>w-we could do it if we really wanted tonice, warm, cuddly cope.
>>64994884>We could, but France keeps barging in and shitting up everything.A more accurate statement for anything regarding joint development.
>>64993048le deindustrialisation is meme logic, most of the people going on about it have no interest in the reality of the situation, the reality is europe and the US both still control an extremely large portion of global manufacturing, and the majority of it is very high end very high value add things that take decades to develop, which nobody else on earth can do. ASML is a good example of this.it's most of the easier, rougher heavy industry that was moved to third world countries.>s-so there isn't a problemdidn't say that, re-industrialisation because of the changing geopolitical situation is important, but the people screeching that the west has zero industry are fucking retarded.
>>64992898sneaky fuckers
>you're a peasants are still ignoring the fact that photolithography is an American technology.
>>64994947well no, the technology at it's peak is currently being developed in the netherlands and has been for a long time.>if i keep screeching it, it will become trueyeah, but it's not, sorry, americans have a part to play, but it is ultimately a multinational company based in europe that has parts being manufactured in germany, the netherlands, japan, and many others.also final assembly is done in the netherlands, lockheed uses plenty of foreign parts in it's supply chain too, but we don't pretend it's a european country, because the final assembly that actually produces their products is in the US.
>>64994968a third of their machines are assembled in Wilton and cannot build a single EUV machine without US approvalIt's thoroughly multi-national but Euro nationalists pretend like its an achievement entirely their own and that the US unfairly asked that they not export it to China. There's obvious reasons why ASML complied
>>64994979>b-but we're a part of the supply chain!good for you, still not an american machine, sorry.>and cannot build a single EUV machine without US approvalyeah, they also can't build a single EUV machine without german approval, because they're a part of the supply chain, what's your point?>e-euro nationalists try to pretendi don't think they do, i think you just got upset at a spectre that you invented in your head and needed to tell it whatfor.it's a european company, and it's products are european, because they are made in europe, and they are headquartered in europe, and most of their talent is european.
>>64994991>yeah, they also can't build a single EUV machine without german approval, because they're a part of the supply chain, what's your point?They are beholden to US export controls because they bought Cymer. I'm sorry Eurokeks but that's how it works
>>64991810Probably not much, these things aren't some genetic race trait like in fantasy. German militarism has been atrophying for 3 whole generations now, they're not gonna just wake up tomorrow with the skillset and innovation of their forefathers
>>64994994>b-but w-we're different!no, sorry, you're not, that's just how it works.
>>64994879>is made exclusively in San Diegoowned by ASML and also it is German again >German company TRUMPF supplies the high-power CO2 drive lasers critical to the LPP process (used to vaporize tin droplets). This laser technology is a key European input integrated into the San Diego-built source.nice try thought
>>64995170>TRUMPF (officially TRUMPF SE + Co. KG) is a leading German family-owned high-tech company headquartered in Ditzingen, near Stuttgart in Baden-Württemberg, Germany. It specializes in machine tools, laser technology, electronics, and Industry 4.0 solutions for industrial manufacturing.>1923 by Christian Trumpf, who acquired Julius Geiger's mechanical workshops in Stuttgart. It began with flexible shafts for tools and evolved into a global leader in sheet metal processing and lasers.>Ownership: Remains a family-owned business (Trumpf and Leibinger families), emphasizing long-term innovation and independence.American minds cant copperhead that European companies are family owned for centuries and they have zero need to play clown publicity games for stock circlejerks like they do in the usa most of machines they use there are still all European made
>>64992034how is he wrong, homo?>>64993048hey, they invented trannies. but you are right otherwise
>>64993447true>>64994075parts made in the US, muslim dutch-kun. the only thing yurop produces is globo homo and kurans>>64994879cooked that third world hog
>>64994577lel>>64994635>yurop>powerhouseliterally a US colony>>64994668lol no, the US is
>>64994875you lost, cry about it hans>>64994935the US yes, yurop, not so much. yurop is basically bangladesh
>>64994947>>64994979>>64994994this>>64994968the tech peaked in the US, homosabi>>64994991>talent>yuropeanpic uno
>>64995213>copperheadlike the post civil war republicans? good morning, saar!everything that's good is American and was created by Americans>>64995170this, good post
>Europeans be like>Look, we invented stuff>Americans be like>No you didn't, also you're shit and I hate youWhy are they like this?
>>64991810Weren't they working on an aerospike spaceplane? That's probably next and equally revolutionary.
>>64991844let's face it: it's more that the US won ww2 than that germany lost it, once the impossible to bomb massive factory joined the game it was overwtf are those captchas, apparently I'm a fucking robot
>>64991810>developed combined-arms armored warfareWasn't that the Australians in ww1
>>64995877I just dont like brown thirdies, simple as>>64995897look at this no gunz thirdie retard seething about American genetic and moral superiority on a gun board you're more likely to be killed by a muslim than a black. blacks just kill other blacks and mudsharks
>>64991810I notice a lot of that list is "first to use in combat in large numbers" and not "invented"
>>64995840>>64995847>>64995850>>64995856>>64995860>>64995867>>64995918holy brown D&C zigger seethe lmao.you're not american.
>>64991844>First to lose a world warThat honour goes to mighty Russia.
>>64995915cry about it.>>64995928damn you thirdie no gunz are mad as fuck. all civilization comes from the US>>64995934I'm white. this is more than 5 >(you)s which means you pay to use 4chan, no gunz
>>64991810>>developed combined-arms armored warfareYou're off by about 20 years there.
>>64995941>i'm whiteyou don't sound white, so i don't believe you.you sound like a mentally ill zigger doing a D&C routine, spamming like you just did is unnatural and unhealthy human behaviour.>he thinks (you)'s are like reddit updoots(you)'s are not a currency, zigger
>>64994608At some point, homie, you should probably read a book.
>>64994875>other than the outcome, how did you enjoy the war Mrs. Hitler?
lotta third worlders larping as americans itt
>>64995953Russians are all third world faggots, like you. you are obviously a brown third world homosexual based on the fact you pay for 4chan gold you get around your third world country's ip ban, faggot
>>64995983nah, we firsties just dont like yuropoorstwo world wars and first to the moon, America is the only good nation
>>64995984>n-no i'm not a russian>i just shill for them and pretend to be a retarded strawman of an american 24/7i accept your concession.>randomly accuses me of paying for 4chan gold??????what brought this schizo delusion on, pray tell?>>64995992>weyou're the only one in this thread having a meltdown lol, all the other americans ITT at least kept their patriotism below delusional levels, which leads me to believe you're not an american as you just suddenly jumped into the thread here >>64995840and started acting like a caricature.
>>64996004how am I shilling for russian, retard? they all have aids because they are gay yurothirdies. The US is the only good country, you no gunz thirdie ass tranny bitch. and you cant link to more than 5 posts without a 4chan pass, you gay thirdie troon. you are a faggot and a tranny and a no gunz. keep crying. Americans are generically, morally and mentally superior to all nonAmericans, faggot
is this a bot? i think this might be a bot.
>>64996051we both know I'm not a bot, doc.I still dont get why you fags get shocked by this, /sp/ was making yurop hate memes over 15 years ago
>>64992034>retarted
yep, it's a bot.
>you're brown>you're Russian>you're a botthere were literally US/yuro hate post bans from /sp/ back when they first rolled out the bans page that showed who was getting banned
>I have passionate, deeply-held opinions that I got from memeskys immediately
>>64996279G'day mate!
>>64991844You pissed off so many people with this and I love it
>>64996279that's okay, you can keep seething, we don't mind.
>>64996317nope, I hate yuros because they are annoying smug homos online.>>64996325I hate ausfalians too>>64996434I'm not the one seething, no gunz
>>64991844good work anon, I knew there was a reason I still come here
>>64991844hehehehehe germs BTFO
>>64992034seethe, hans
>>64996612>isn't seething>continues to seetheweird.
what an odd thread
>>64997328falseflag threads tend to be like that.
>>64997301I'm not the one seething here, thirdie >>64997328>>64997338germans deserve to be dunked on. dont start world wars if you cant finish them
>>64992898those were the austro-hungarians
>>64991844The world war never ended. We're still in world war 1.
>>64998658Israel started ww1 and 2 thoughbeit.
>>64994810>>64994870>itt, retards who don't understand how the 100 Days broke the hunCombined-arms warfare involving infantry, armor and artillery is what broke the Hindenburg Line.
>>64995860>the tech peaked in the US, homosabiRight. Which is of course why the dutch have developed and are producing the best photolitography machines in the world.Why are you brown?
>>64991844>all the dweebs and wehraboos assblasted by thislmao
>>64994875>germany beats france>fails to hold it for even one decade>this is a german “victory”I guess the US won in vietnam and afghanistan is russian clay
>>64991844Pea/k/ post.
>>65003249the US single handedly defeated the Nazis in both world wars. the Nazis would have beaten and enslaved the bongs both times without US intervention >>65003276the dutch have not. they are just cheap brown labor like bangladesh. the dutch have never been at the forefront of anything but sodomy. the dutch make the samalis look white and smart and the smalis pray to mecca fewer times per day.if I was brown I'd live in the islamic caliphate of holland. all science and tech comes from the US, not third world brown nations like holland, india, somalia, germany, the balkins, bangladesh or haiti
>>65003722the US did win vietnam. there was a cease fire where the US held like 80% of vietnamese land and 90% of the pop the invasion that lead to the fall of saigon didn't happen until like 18 months after US troops withdrew
>>64991865Iirc 2+4 is more a statement of an intent and not a binding agreement.
>>64994635>power houseless productive per person than belgium.
>>64994968>well no, the technology at it's peak is currently being developed in the netherlands and has been for a long time.it was literally given to them by the department of energy in the late 90s. they continue to exist because of combined, deliberate investments from the us chip majors about a decade later. there was a reason why the federal government decided to implant this technology in europe in a middling company at a point in time when us companies could have acheived the exact same result. i have as yet not quite been able to work it out.
>>64995877because quite often the europeans didn't actually invent stuff.
>>64991844wehraboos screaming and seething
>>65005965non-sequitur
>>65006025they're bug people anon, get over it.
>>64994875Using that logic you count Soviet Union as defeated by Germany during WW2
>>64991810>>developed combined-arms armored warfarethat was the bongs on the western front towards the end of ww1 actually>>64991810>>First portable night-vision devices deployed in combatnah see the tabby