Nihonjin EditionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious thread >>64988884
>Can't shoot one handed. Can't shoot two handed with any consistency. Argues what is the best way to train, how to properly hold a firearm, claims others are making stupid suggestions.Good news dickhead! We have a label for what's going on with you. It's called Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
>tfw no hasguns jap waifuWhy even live
Are the +P+ 127gr Ranger "not Black Talon" rounds hopelessly outdated? The ballistics data on them looks sick af
Awaiting a locking block for a 9mm Sig 22X frame... should be in today.
>>64994847Converting from .40 to 9mm? Nice ported barrel also
>>64994844What do you mean by outdated?
Anyone know what slide this is? Lone Wolf or GGP maybe?
>>64994848>Converting from .40 to 9mm? Actually building one from the ground up lol.>Nice ported barrel alsoThanks. Doesn't do much with 230gr .45s but it's noticeable with 185gr loads.
>>64994851Will they get me kilt innastreetzSerious answer though, is the performance (flash and recoil vs. penetration/expansion/probability to incapacitate) worth it or stick with just plain old 124gr +p HSTI find myself perplexingly aroused by the sheer damage the +p+ can deal to a gel torso
>>64994856Oh sweet. Revenant frame?
>>64994841At least you still have your raifu!
>>64994862Hell yeah!
>>64994859It's 1230 on a chrono. Gets .65 expanded reliably in controlled and actual mammal targets. 18+ in penn tests. I've seen it used on deer. The sharp pedals make a difference in damage. Get some. It's good stuff. Reliable. Proven. The extra velocity is buying you depth you may not get with a slower bullet at a bad angle.
If anyone can find me a good deal on a USP in .45 please let me know, thanks
new pistol owner anoni looked it up and that stuff was just welding, i was worried over nothing
>>64994835>that grip>>64994883gun.deals DYOR
>>64994941Gun deals always make me want to take a long ass drive to Dallas
>>64994876Thanks fren. It's a bit harsh on the frame but I really do get pleasure from seeing the sheer violent explosive trauma it causes in a gel torso.
>>64994962sallaD
Boggle?
>>64995026>>64995035Zoomers will get filtered by these references but I'm old enough to remember Goku appearing at the medieval festival
>>64994835In a streamlining minimalist manner, do I need to trade whole picrel for a G26 threaded/suppressed and call it a day for the rest of my life ?
>64995073>Olight
>>64994876That's borderline .357mag ballisticsMore than enough to convince Crime'quavious Niggins the error of trying to culturally diversify his White oppressors after his latest zero cash bond release
Took the Springfield 1911 I bought back out to shoot yesterday afternoon. I still don't know why I ever sold it in the first place. It was like meeting up with an old friend :) I'm glad my friend was willing to sell it back for the same price.
>>64995160I hear the Imbel frames are nice but almost unobtainium
>>64995123I think neither of them would know.
>>64994853I think it's Zaffiri?
>>64995073No, I would straight up get G26 and keep the rest
went shooting today
>>64994835Notice how her grip, as bad as it is, doesn't shift every shot?
>>64995168IDK, mine is Geneseo marked only and according to the Springfield rep, it was made after they stopped using Brazilian forgings. After owning some shoddy Colts (which had minor issues that COULD be fixed), it makes me appreciate the Springfield for just working and feeling like a quality gun. Even the Gold Cup in the pic has a very non-positive safety but is otherwise reliable.
>>64995298Notice how you never, not even once, post any examples of your own shooting, thread after thread? One wonders why you are even here given that you don't participate in the hobby at all.
>>64995337He's been here for a while now huh?
I want to go shooting today
>>64995073The color fill on those slides looks cheap as hell, like an airsoft toy. Why did you do that?
>>64995337Different guy, I make fun of pastebin's shooting because he deserves it https://streamable.com/06cqfc
>>64995399had my first malfunction with my .45 2011, it's so over, failure to feed https://streamable.com/s5jd2b
>>64993634I tend to do 5 rounds at 7 yards and then 5 at 25 on the same target for slow fire practice. There is a common drill where at 7 or 10 yards you do 5 single round drills from the holster, 5 doubles from the holster or low ready, 5 rounds dominate hand only, 5 rounds non dominate hand only. I think the entire thing is timed adding up to each string of fire. 9/10 (?) in the 10 ring which probably was my best work so far. It didn’t feel like it, I called one more miss than I count.
Should I really be waiting for Glock Gen 6 to be in stock or is there a better polymer framed 4-inch barrel 15 capacity 9mm? I’m a noob and only have two metal framed duty size pistols.
>>64995498Do you need this Glock urgently? What does it do that your two existing guns don’t do? Ammo will probably serve you better
someone sell a gas-seal 22lr revolver ffs
>>64995498>a better polymer framed 4-inch barrel 15 capacity 9mmG48 is now going to be a 15 round capacity glock, if you wanted to go smaller.
>>64995498The initial reviews on the Gen 6 have been pretty positive, but I think you might want to wait a few months to make sure.You could also consider a PDP or M&P. I'd consider them to be sidegrades to the Glock. There isn't really a "best" polymer striker pistol, just like there isn't a "best" model of sneakers. There's just what you like, and what you don't like.
>>64995498CZ P10M&P 2.0Walther P99
>>64995525>Glock? I'm an American!M&P>Sponge Trigger!PDP-F>FEMALE?P99>I SAID I'M AMERICANSW99>An antique?!Ruger RXM>NOW THIS IS A FINE PIECE OF HARDWARE
Posting cold 25yd group: week 3. Same Walther PDP.
>>64995532I honestly bought it as a joke (it was 200 out the door) but I dig my Ruger P95
>>64995553Nothing bad to say at that price. I shit on the P series because they've become a weird zoomer fetish, I've seen faggots compare it to the 4095 and P226 and I want to strangle them for it.
>>64995498Glock 19 Gens 3-5 are perfectly fine pistolsThere's also the PDP compact
my LGS has one of these used Premier IIs for $2000, do you guys think its worth it?He also had a used pre-CZ Dan Wesson for $1000 in a polished stainless that I really liked. Which one should I get? I'm definitely buying one of them, he just got them in from some boomer who won them at a banquet and then never shot them.
>>64995595the Baer has quite a bit of finish wear on it fyi, but in in good working order. The bore looks good, everything is still tight. the dan wesson has way less finish wear for a similarly aged gun
>>649955952k is usually where Baers go for used from a gunstore, sometimes less towards 1.5k in a private sale The Baer obviously has way more workmanship into it than the DW. Polished blue > stainless
>>64995399Different guy, I make fun of your malfunctions because you deserve it >>64995296>>64995548Impressive, very nice
>>64995595Baer all day, if you are patient you can pick one up in better shape on GB for a bit less. I'm probably a bit biased because I've had 2 DW's that were trash while my Baers are accurate as fuck and run like sewing machines.
>>64995636Notice how my grip doesn’t shift when the second round fails to fire?
>>64995654>fails to fireIt was a failure to feed because of your hack job on the frame
So CZ nu-DW is not g2g? Does one even bother with an optic ready 1911 or just go ds 1911 9mm?
>>64995666The part where I hacksawed the frame has nothing to do with feeding
>>64995669My nuDW specialist 10mm did not function 100% out of the box, premature slide stop engagement.
>>64995669>>64995683what is "nu-"DW?
>>64995680Bet
>>64995695bet what, stupid? this isn't a casino
>>64995695
>>64995704
>>64995697>>64995704The real surprise is that it didn't malfunction sooner
>>64995704the magazine is getting caught on this brrr>t. Smifgun
>>64995683Damn that sucks
A single malfunction in 1000 rounds, I might as well kill myself now
>>64995731Should've got a revolver
>>64995595Would he do a transfer on the Wesson?
Finally nice enough to shoot again. :) I know it won't stay this way but looking forward to summer. Now if we could just avoid the weekly devastating rain and wind/tornados for one year.
I have a 92FS Inox. Is it possible through a lot of elbow grease to make it shiny or is there a special finish I can put on it?
>>64995810Meguiar's or Mother's polish, wouldn't recommend it though
Missed out on the Sarco Staccato for 1300, might as well kms gg no re
>>64995822?
>>64995558My buddy has a p series and I have a 3rd gen smith .40 and they are weirdly similar.
What's the most you ever paid for a handgun?
>>64995839kekI wanna say I spent the most on either my Sig P226 MK 25 or my USP 45Both were over $1,000
>>64995839For a single handgun? $1600.For a handgun + modifications? Closer to $2000.
>>64995822If it's the 40 one I was looking at it too in order to ream the chamber for 10mm. But then realized I'd want to replace the grip, optics cut, and would end up spending way too much on a gun that still doesn't have all the features I want.
>>64995810I didn't know it said stainless on the end. That completely ruins it for me.
>>64995977Checked, still a STI frame doe
>>64995986S E X OEXO
Anyone know who makes this particular brand of goon tape? Or would just regular ass hockey tape work idk
>>64996025It's all just hockey tape. Goon is a position in hockey, the Goon Tape logo is the NHL logo.
>>64994962Oddly, some of the craziest handgun deals I've seen were in Illinois.Example- S&W Bodyguard 2.0 for $275.00 with three mags.Trouble is you need an Illinois FOID card to buy a handgun in Illinois, and out of state cannot get one.(Kentucky resident)Place called "Dunns" in Marion, they had a few of them.
>>64995839As far as time?First actual 1911 (as in Military, Colt) I ever bought was only $425.00, but that was working at $5.00/hr.Cost wise?I'd have to say the pre B CZ75 I have, as I traded a first gen Glock 17 with the weird tupperware box for it. And that cost me $600.00 1991 dollars.I did get the goofy styrofoam box and other nonsense for the '75, but I kind of miss that Glock.(Image Related, I basically collect junk)
>>64995399At least you never hit the same general area twice
>>64995636I noticed how much recoil anticipation you have. Go push a cart twink the 45 isn't for you.
>>64995721What in the actual fuck is this?
>>64996090>>64995721>>64995680>The part where I hacksawed the frameWile E Coyote school of gunsmithing releases another graduate into the wild
>>64996090>>64996093Post a gunsmithing project you've done, which isn't just changing springs or wrapping tape.
>>64996025Just buy howies
>>64996107Post a picture of your slide. Both sides. Clear and complete pictures.
>>64996117I'm not him. Isn't that obvious? I want to see how you stack up to what he's shared, because I suspect you haven't done anything more difficult than installing grips while you shitpost as if you're Ted Yost.
>>64996090Frame too long. Grug make shorter
>>64996133
>>64994847>should be in todayFugggggg... it's not in today gotta wait until Monday
>>64996133After it was modified. After it was shot. Off the frame.
>>64996133you were supposed to make the slide longer
>>64996117>>64996128Waiting for some example of your skill, anon.
>>64995073I have no idea how I would even pull off a minimalist collection
Is the Ruger Max 9 a good first handgun? It's in my price range and I would really love to start shooting again. I had a Ruger 10/22 when I was a kid and loved it, never jammed, so I have a little brand loyalty.
>>64996155Just get a Glock 19
>>64996155If you're gonna get a Ruger handgun, look into the RXMhttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676194001
>>64996128>I'm not him. Isn't that obvious?Anonymous...I don't care what you suspect. You can't shoot pistols accurately. That makes you uninteresting and irrelevant.
>>64996155No. Highly recommend avoiding the Max-9, Sec-9, and Sec-380. If you have brand loyalty get the Ruger Glock RXM. >>64996159
>>64996160Shifting goalposts? Okay. Post an example of a target you've shot. Ever. At any distance.
I don’t shoot targets. There’s no substitute for the real thing.
>>64996178You have to be 18 to post here
>>64996135I suspect you realize already that you fucked up. There are a lot of variables in slide stroke to ensure cycling. Post pics of the disassembled pistol both sides of the slide. From after the modification and the malfunction.
>>64996189No
This general is just thridie trolls hassling away the regulars who actually shoot.
>>64996191I wouldn't either if I was you. Just know I know how bad you fucked up.
>>64996189>There are a lot of variables in slide stroke to ensure cycling.List three variables, with quantifiable measurements, be they weight or dimension. Three points of measure, and ideal ranges to be expected for proper function.Just three. Not "a lot." Just three variables you, as an expert, know about, measure and quantify in the process of fitting a 19/2011 slide to a frame.
>>64996157But anon, that's a negro weapon!>>64996159>>64996164Alright, looks cool. Im guessing there are a lot of accessories for this thing since it's based on the Glock gen 3? Should I look at the threaded barrel or non-threaded?
>>64996203This thread is a gatekeeping faggot who can't shoot for shit and a twink stumbling through gunsmithing for newbs while acting like he's ready to take center stage in an AMA. Fuck you.>Regulars This isn't reddit faggot. A couple of us have been here since long before you unlatched from your tranny daddymoms teat
>>64996210>accessoriesLike, bullets or what?>threaded barrel or non-threaded?Either, you can change your mind any time for $30-$60 and 30 seconds of your time.
>>64996208Post a challenge you have passed. As I said. You are an uninteresting and irrelevant migrant from titsred. Go back.
>>64996221Magazines and trigger kits mainly.
I haven't seen any real gunsmithing in hg since the Cock 23.
>>64996217
>>64996135Strip it and show /hg/ those wear marks on the slide
>>64996155>>64996210get an RXM. I like mine alot but havent put an exhaustive amount of time ammo through it yet, so be advised. I dont think a threaded barrel is necessary imo>accessoriesliterally just real glock brand glock mags, thats all. The magpul ones it ships with are a little poopy and id only trust for range use. These work with Tenicor glock holster as thats what I use for mine fyi
>>64996107The closest thing I can think of where I just committed to destroying a part to get something practical out of it was filling a slot for a sling in a 10/22. It's ugly but it still holds the sling and I only destroyed a cheap stock.Now the 1911 frame, taking a hacksaw to something like that. I wouldn't do it at all. Isn't that a serialized part? What are you planning to do to it?
>>64996210The accessories you should prioritize are a holster, snap caps and extra mags.
>>64996261I hacksawed it so the dust cover would meet the slide stirrup cut. I had a full length dust cover
>>64996133>>>64995839>>64996135>>64996146Posting gore outside /b/ is bannable
>>64996261This poster just tags multiple people in conversations he's not part of and then poorly attempts to bait. His next move is to claim the multiple people he has tagged are the same person. It's lame.
>>64996277i hate your grip so much but never had anything bad to say about your frame cut, looks good to me
>>64996277>>64996281honestly I didn't see >>64996135 before, yeah now it looks decent
>>64996293It looks like literal dickhole. >>64996277
All the USP45s I see on gunbroker are Elites or Compacts. Gonna have to try local I guess.
>>64996255>>64996272Got it. How many magazines is "enough"?
>>64996305Do they not do police trade ins anymore?
>>64996309>How many magazines is "enough"?infinity+1. But uh, I always say like 10 or 12 as a baseline but im currently violating that rule for all my handguns. Glock mags arent to pricey so id say just keep picking them up when you can and amass a collection as you go. For practical use only like 2 or 3 is fine, but for ease of range use having a ton is great
>>64996309At least 4, 8 would be good, 16 would be optimal, 32 would be satisfactory, 64 would be
>>649963094 is the absolute minimum.
>>64996309I like to keep two loaded mags in addition to the one in the gun. I like to take at least two mags to the range without having to download the two loaded mags. So that makes five. Once I hit that number I don't really care anymore and I'll only buy more when they are on sale and if I don't have a lot going on with other guns at the moment. That is only for pistols though.
>>64996309Never enoughBut my rule of thumb is generally "two to carry, two to fuck around with"Also depends on what guns you value the mostFor instance, my Glocks and 92s take the most priority, followed by my HKs and SIGs, then the 1911, and so on and so forth
>>64996309Yes
>>64996332>YesFinally, the correct answer.
>>64993755There are spray paints that ape chrome pretty well.
>>64996332Are those handloads?
>>64996364Nigga...
HTX1kin...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DBktOGnpdo
>>64996380NO NO NO This can’t be happening
>>64996380I just like the way it looks.
>>64996380I called this. American manufacturing is the absolute last resort for me.
>>64996377I just wanted to confirmI've been seriously considering getting die for .45 and 9mm Along with getting more handloading supplies
>>64996312Dried up long ago>>649963094-6 minimum not including (actual) extended mags not what the gay (((media))) calls "high capacity." OEM with added extensions if anything or reputable aftermarket like Magpul and Mec-gar. Avoid Promag like the plague
>>64996063>And that cost me $600.00 1991 dollars.Anon, I was born in 1996, you were already buying and selling years before I was born...how old are you? 50? 60? Why lurk on /k/ and not forums? Do you lurk other boards?
>>64996411>it's made in China numbnuts
>>64996380so this is the power of ozempic
>>64996380and Aaron's conclusion is that the Dot is still good
>>64995839I'm conflicted...Did they murder him because they wanted his Louis Vuitton Sig...or as punishment for owning that Louis Vuitton Sig? There's an acceptable answer here.
>>64996501I thought all the comps/standoff devices for the PX4 sucked
>>64996309Two good ones for carry, two cheap for range use and abuse. I only have this many because of the recent upgrade from factory magazines to Mec-Gar>>64996082I'm not PX4 paypig
>>64996380The EPS already beat it on account of being half the price.>>64996511They suck because of baffle strikes and flexing the frame.
PSA: PPQ mag loaders fit p365 mags
does everyone get bit by their slide at least once? I was charging it and a little bit of skin on my left hand got bit by the ejection port when I first got it home. please anons I can’t be the only one. It’s gotta be part of the bonding between owner and firearm or I’m just retarded (i am)
>>64996534EPS is a weird duck because of micro footprint
>>64996550this is great news for the several people that own both
>>64996425What other forums? /k/ is /k/
>>64996556kek
>>64996550>mag loadersAnon, those are for women>>64996554Once cut my thumb loading a magazine. Still not sure how it even happened
>>64996562>Once cut my thumb loading a magazineIf you used a mag loader like women, this wouldn't have happened.
I'm gonna do an IDPA match next weekend. What should I expect? I'm gonna bring my J frames and do BUG.
>>64996554i did something super retarded last range trip and bit my thumb
>>64996562just the pistol reminding you it loves ya
>>64996557hunting fudd and boomer forums, the ones with....signatures.
>>64996550i may need these because i was loading a 17rnd doublestack last night and i physically could not get passed 16, it took over 3 minutes a round on average
>>64996572I suppose>>64996578>love bitesKek>>64996584You might want to let your primary care physician know about that
>>64996593i’ll call him tommorow
How much is this a problem? It only happens if I ride the slide slowly. At normal speeds it feeds fine behind the extractor.
>>64996364Yep! Come join us in /rg/ >>64980130
>>64996595Make sure to ask him what the erythrocyte sedimentation rate was in your last blood test>>64996596Does it happen with live ammunition too?
>>64996614Yes but only in the same scenario of going really slow.Dropping the slide normally is no issue. I thought it was an extractor issue but the round pops out of the magazine even before it reaches anywhere near the extractor.
>>64996614i get bloodwork pretty often and never had any flags for that. I just don’t have a lot of grip strength unfortunately.
>>64996577I sucked my thumb, the lead was tasty
>>64994859>I find myself perplexingly aroused by the sheer damage the +p+ can deal to a gel torsoDo keep in mind that those gel torso "tests" are complete bollocks that use uncalibrated and likely improperly stored ballistics gel, combined with bags of fluid and "bone" made from fuck knows what, to show things that even properly calibrated ballistics gel was never intended to be able to show.
>>64996637>bollocksno guns
>>64996624>only in the same scenario of going really slowWay she goes, anon>>64996629Don't use a grip strengthener, it'll make the issue worse>>64996637Meat tests > gel tests
I was surprised to see the USP Compact 45 is fatter than the USP 45
>>64996644what issue? I’m not dropping things because I can’t hold them, it’s just those pistol mags are very hard to load for me. rifle mags are where I have all of my practice.
>>64996653Yeah. Didnt like how snappy that thing is too.
>>64996596It's not, don't do that. A 1911 isn't designed to work that way. It takes about 8lbs of force to reliably chamber a round in a 1911, effectively absorbing half of the weight of a factory 16lb recoil spring slamming home. You can't be dainty with it. At the same time, that's why so many people frown on dropping a 1911 slide on an empty chamber, it's battering itself twice as hard without a round in the way.
>>64995337Why would anyone post that here?
>>64994941What's wrong with her grip?
>>64996664Got it, was just doing function checks and noticed it.
>>64995839>"young people"I'd say add it to the list, but there's no fucking way its not already there.
>>64996682For what reason would you not?
>>64995160Only gun I ever had issues with right out of the box was a Springfield Ronin. Had to send it back, have them replace and adjust several things
>>64996157>Likes Ruger>Loyal to Ruger>dumb af anon says, "Just get a glock"Some of you stupid motherfuckers will never realize how retarded you are.
>>64996082It's an odd thing to be condescending to someone when you can't even write properly. He's shooting fine
>>64996157>Just get a Glock>>64996210>But anon, that's a negro weapon!And?This world has too many people who L.I.T.E.R.A.L.L.Y. think any auto-loading pistol is a glock.
>>64995839$1,700. O.R. CZ Shadow 2 orange edition
>>64996388>IMG_0996.jpgNFW this guy is heterosexual
>>64996550>PSA: PPQ mag loaders fit p365 mags"x" adaptor fits "other-x"A tale as old as time.
>>64996550I feel like it's easier to just get an Uplula or something that fits just about every doublestack on the market and isn't hot garbo.
>>64996155>price rangeLike recoil, it doesn't exist. Stay the fuck away from ruger, your one anecdotal data point aside. Police glock trade ins are your friend.
>>64996530You two might as well be boyfriends the way you always chase after each other and throw shade. The sexual tension is thicc. You'd definitely be the bottom btw.
Get it together S&W.
>>64996742It's a survey. Eventually they'll tally the results and see what people hated the least.
>>64996577I bit my thumb just last week. It had it coming.
I wanted to get into revolvers lately and haven't really been able to make a decision. Part of me wants to go for a Model 19 to have something that can pull double duty a carry gun but still be overall comfy to shoot. The other side says to get a snubby rhino for the memes. What do you think /hg/?
>>64996742>Get it together S&W.Get exactly WHAT together?Your 9000 hours in Paint pic shows a variety of triggers.S&W is America's largest gun manufacturer.What is your dumb ass's particular bitch about this time?
>>64996796Why not one trigger shape, just pick something
>>64995498the previous gens of glawk are still good, m&ps and pdps are your other options though the people that really sing the praises of the former tend to get aftermarket triggers which you may want to avoid depending on what youre using it for
>>64996742Man, that's like the complete opposite of Glock's autism. For what reason are they changing out trigger shapes so much?
>>64996807>OH NO, NOT ENOUGH VARIETY>OH NO, TOO MUCH VARIETY.Go find a rope and a tree.
>>64996813no matter what they do people keep bitching about their triggers
>see a guy selling a staccato with a cheely grip>look it up>$600 for the grip and another $65 for the pinned grip safetyFucking why? Is this just how it is for 2011s?
>>64996155I've got a Max-9. It's a good enough pistol for a good price. Mediocre Trigger and its definitely not my most accurate pistol, but otherwise perfectly serviceable. It is small enough to pocket carry (though not small enough to do it with every pocket like the LCP series) and big enough to not be painful to shoot (though it is less comfy than an RXM and especially a Mark IV)Are you planning on carrying it or is it just a range toy? If it's a range toy, get something else. (A Mark IV, RXM, or even a Wrangler comes to mind.) If you are going to carry it, go right ahead if you want. There are better options, but the Max-9 has a lot of bang for your buck.
>>64996501Is that a heckin Samurai Edge comp??
>>64996530hell yeah brother
I am completely aware of the fact that the BG 2.0 is coming out of nu-Smith TN with misaligned sights, feed ramp burrs and POI issues. I even started a transfer on one a year ago and backed out when I realized the trigger dingus spring was completely detensioned.However, I'm also a gullible retard and woke up wanting to impulse buy one. There's truly nothing on the market like it. Palm sized gun, full sized grip, 13 rounds and very shootable. Thinking of chasing the dragon today. Do I deserve to get burned?
>>64996497They murdered him because they're Nigs
>>64996742>>64996813tbf trigger profile is a big part of marketing and s&w is more marketing than quality at this point so I don't blame them. It doesn't matter. Look at Glock G6 changing the shoe but not changing the trigger, pure marketing.what are the bottom two? are they putting out a survey for what to make the 4th gen look like?
>>64996025I bought Goon Tape and like 5 different hockey tape brands to try to find which one it is. Its literally Renfrew. Which is the best one because it's very good at wicking moisture. A must-have for any of my slick side guns like the PX4.
>>64996735Sgt bottombin
what should I know about going to a membership type range. do i need to load my mags there or can i preload. also do I have to buy their targets?
>>64996742>>64996813S&W makes guns for lardass consoomers who put 200rds downrange twice a year. Glock makes guns for people who might have to shoot other people. >>64997339>s&w is more marketing than quality at this pointexactly
>>64997329Best purchase I've made in years, doubt you'll regret it.
>>64997339>what are the bottom twoLooks like a pair of Victory 22s.
what does /hg/ think of the Hellcat Pro?
>>64997329The only gun I've held in awhile that I'd impulse buy is a CSX-E
>>64997479not as cool as the RDP
>>64996705One should not be shoving the gun forward in anticipation of recoil.
>>64997263Now that's a sample size! Good shit>>64997405>might not be allowed to fill magazines in advance>might not be allowed to bring own target>even with a range membership Grim>>64996654>I’m not dropping things because I can’t hold themPray it stays that way, Parkinson's disease is a bitch>>64996735>>64997379Fuck all the way off with your projecting
>>64997644it’s hard for me to load those mags because hrt muscle loss, lack of grip training, etc. ar mags are fine though because there’s a lot of surface area.also yeah the public range didn’t have it on their faq but a friend of mine has a range at his house but he hasn’t scheduled a date to go shooting. I figured myself and brother could go shooting at the public range but I haven’t been to a public range before. you can buy day passes or an annual membership.
>>64997644Shut your bitch ass up.
>>64996920It’s machined from a big block of stainless steel.
>>64997694>hrt muscle loss
>>64997694
>>64997405Membership ranges exist to filter out the riffraft, my indoor range literally has no rules other than basic safety ones and not to shoot the hangers
>>64997906do they have the rapid fire rule?
>>64997644Sassy Panty Bottom
>>64997930No, as long as you aren’t shooting the ceiling or other people’s targets but my range might be an exception
>>64996550I just use an UpLula, the range goblins are nicer to me when they see my Made in Israel(tm) mag loader and my Sigs never malfunction.
>>64997950I’ll talk with my rso when i get down there and ask about it. I mainly want to work on the basics of handgun shooting. I have snap caps on the way too for dry fire training at home!
Almost no one ever shot the ceiling at my range but people keep shooting the floor. They will hang a giant ass target at 10 yards on a 25 yard range and shoot directly at the floor through the bottom of the target.
Man I bought those aggressive G-10 grips in my local gun show but it wont sit flush on my Tisas 1911. Tried to make the hole wider but i still have maybe an .008 inch of day light in between them.
>>64997973My dad was in the army in the 80's, One day I took him to the range after almost 20 years of him not shooting a rifle, at 10 yards, he shoot at the floor four times, he gave up and stop shooting, thank god, it's a miracle a piece of cooper didn't ricochet back unto us.
>>64997989is your dad retarded or was he being silly to make a point
>>64997644based and XDpilled
>>64997379you know that shit grippy
>>64997644Have you explained why you got this gun?
>>64997973how do people shoot the floor?
>>64998035They don't think about what's behind the target.
>>64998035Through paper
>>64998088As he shooting at the very bottom of a target 10 feet away?
>>64998098>10 feetCould be farther than that, but yes, I think someone actually posted a video of them doing it in this general before.
>>64998103i guess i could imagine target at 10yds, you aim at something near the corner and take a flier, or maybe someone practicing hip shooting. most people where i shoot aren't like that though. outdoor range is 90% hunters, indoor is people using trad bullseyes.
>>64997694Loading handgun magazines is a repetitive motion that strains hand and wrist muscles in uncommon ways. Get a Maglula UpLULA and it'll make it way easier and faster. It'll still cause some soreness if you load a lot at once, but nowhere near as much as doing so entirely by hand.As for range rules, check the rules online before you go. Pretty much every range posts their rules online so you can be aware of what to expect before you go. Some are chill, some are fuddy. Hopefully you have a good range experience.Also, if you're new here, don't ever listen to anything that "pastebin" (>64997644) has to say. Just ignore him, don't give him a (you). He's a retarded troll who knows nothing, shoots like shit, and espouses the dumbest fucking "advice".
@64998115you’re responding to a tranny who shouldn’t be anywhere near guns
>>64998115oh okay, i don’t really know who that is. I’ll grab one of those loaders because I tried all sorts of loading methods from youtube and getting 16 in was a task. does the one you mentioned work on hk mags? I was reading that you need specific ones or ones that are close enough.
>>64998143I think that’s unfair characterization. I’ve been around firearms my whole life, I’ve just never owned a handgun. I think it’s more telling of you that you refuse to directly reply to a guy you have problems with in an anonymous message board, the @‘ing of his post number is highschool drama bullshit. I haven’t said or done anything rude to you, I’m just trying to learn more so I can be safe with myself, friends, and family when we all go shooting.
>>64998144It should work for any double stack magazine. Just make sure you get one for that size. Ignore trolls. Shoot, have fun, and report back with targets to get advice on how to improve.
>>64996768You'll actually shoot the 19. They're cheap used too
>>64998204Of course you can’t get a magpul product without spending another 30$. It looks good though, and I do love all my magpul stuff so far. I’ll definitely get back with some target data after we go shooting. My snap caps get in on monday so that will give me time for practicing my grip and trigger pull by this weekend.I really appreciate the info and advice.
>>64997479There is one reason to buy a hellcat, and only one. You want the minmaxed micro 9 that has the best capacity for its size. A hellcat pro is pointless, because once you want something bigger, there are better guns available. Hellcats have a glock-but-worse trigger and are legitimately hard to shoot well when compared to something like a G26, Shield Plus, or Equalizer. t. hellcat owner.
>>64998250but does it have the scat pack?
>>64998224It's actually not a Magpull product, just has a similar name. Understanding grip and trigger pull are the most important fundamentals to grasp. Make sure your support hand has a lot of contact with the frame and firm grip. The fingers on your dominant hand shouldn't flinch at all, and the trigger pull should go straight back. That's the gist of it. Practicing dryfire at home should make up most of your training time. Range time with live ammo puts that to the test.
>>64994859Someone in a previous thread said +p out of a pistol is a meme. Doesn't really do anything. Do others on here agree?
>>64997694whats your handgun of choice i want to make fun of the guys who also have it for>hrt muscle loss
>>64998267I am completely dyslexic I guess, I checked the store page and I now see it’s maglula. I guess the search was close enough to pull it up. with my support hand I wrap the index across the front of the trigger guard and rest its thumb on the textured spot for it on the frame, it feels pretty natural. I think it will work pretty well.
>>64998098
>>64998156>guyDon't misgender her you piece of shit.
>>64998156Oldfags will assume you're trolling and therefore should be ignored. The few people here that believe that you think you're trans will write you off as either being a psycho due to your mental illness or that you have poor critical thinking due to being easily propagandized/manipulated.No matter the reality, nobody here believes you should be here
>An attempt was made
>>64998289That's not ideal since you'll have to account for that input every trigger pull. It's best to minimize inputs with your grip so it can be as easily repeatable as possible. Given that you're new, try wrapping all your support fingers around your dominant fingers. The most important part is to ensure your support palm gets maximum contact with the grip. Look up videos by Ben Stoeger on youtube. He has a lot of good information and is a good teacher. If you're really serious, check out his books.
>>64998374I don't think you're supposed to use that kind of tape.
>>64998374You are most likely looking for this
Saw a used p226 elite for 799 at an lgs. Is that a good deal?
>>64998275Not all +P is created equal, it really depends on the bullet design and also the barrel length of the gun. Sometimes it only gets you more recoil while other cases it gets better penetration and expansion. A sweeping generalization calling something a meme isn’t going to be accurate
>>64998380alright I’m checking out his youtube.
>>64998275Increasing pressure in a cartridge can push a given weight of projectile faster, which leads to comparatively more penetration and/or damage. There's more factors to consider and not all projectiles and "+p" loadings are created equal but it certainly isn't a meme.
>>64998275No, although it goes against the grain when it comes to terminal ballistics dogma, I think even gaining 50 fps is a good thing when the velocity range is in the lower part of lead bending range. Forget energy, they just expand more reliably.
>>64998403He has a lot of videos on the topic. Here's an overview that I found quickly.https://youtu.be/QHsFa1iDVOw
>>64998425I was watching one from him talking about thumbs and it’s pretty interesting.
>>64998397What do you think from a 4"+ barrel? HST and Ranger PDX? Or Xtreme Penetrators/ G9?
>>64998385Yeah but the 100mph tape was all I had
>>64998380>Ben Stoeger on youtube.>>64998403>>64998425>>64998431This guy is not hetero.
>>64998397Wouldn't more recoil = more muzzle energy by Newton's third law anyways?
For me it’s Ben Stoeger on vimeo
>>64998455This fake wear is hilarious even without the tape.
>>64998455
>>64998431Adopting floating thumbs made real improvements with my shooting. The less inputs you have on the gun, the more simple and repeatable things are. This means it's easier to be consistent. There are a lot of training materials out there. If you're new to handgun shooting and actually want to learn to do it well, keep things simple and just watch/read his content. It's no nonsense and it works. If for some reason you find him unhelpful, then branch out to other stuff. This ought to save you a lot of time.
>>64998463More recoil without any better performance, if the bullet cannot perform better than the extra powder is wasted
>>64998479He reminds me of paul harrel. I like his video style a lot. I’ll definitely try the floating thumbs thing. I liked his explanation on how much grip strength to put into your dominant hand.
Learning to shoot listening to Ben is like learning to drive from an f1 driver in an f1 car. Sounds cool. Works well inside its own rule set. But you will be lost in rally, NASCAR, sprint, decar, and every other form of vehicle driving INCLUDING day to day. Nothing about two handed comp style shooting lends itself to real world situations when people are shooting back. All the way down to body position. When entering a house armed with a pistol the first thing you are taught immediately forces you to throw bens grip and body position out the window. He may argue but he wouldn't make it around the first corner or doorway the way he competes without eating a bullet.
>>64998492Both him and Paul have a lot of experience actually training people, it’s how they break down concepts into easier to understand parts for people. >>64998547Post guns, targets, or anything
>>64998552well he is easy to listen to, he has a very nice way of putting things.
>>64998547https://youtu.be/7GZlRvxd68EBen Stoeger literally has trained tier one units including Delta Force which undertook the most daring raid in world history a few months ago. In this interview he literally explains why you are wrong and he invented logic.
>>64998552>>64998582I just ignore that poster (it's probably pastebin, given the timeline and the behavior). He's been saying argumentative (and wrong) shit to everyone about everything in every thread for a while now. He never posts anything constructive or informative. He only posts argumentative bullshit because he's a troll.
>>64998606I believe it's this guy who does lurk here, I also seen him regurgitate my speel about DA/SA for carry a few times almost word for wordhttps://www.youtube.com/@JaredAF/videosHe's obviously trolling but no one would waste so much time about a topic they don't actually care about, so the suspect must have some interest or knowledge about shooting. As you can tell from his channel he has an aversion to any actual practical shooting so he makes himself an expert in something obscure. Not a bad idea for his channel since other forms of shooting content is so saturated. There's some lore about him going to a USPSA type event and getting outshot so he fox-and-the-grapes his way into hating anything "competition shooting" related. He unironically believes one handed shooting is superior to two handed.
>>64998637I know jaredaf browses reddit pretty often.
>>64995810yes & noyou can make it shinier but it won't be 'shiny'i have an american inox and i just polished it with flintz, if i do a few more rounds of it im sure itll be shinier but i like it how it isit reflects light somewhat now, unlike the stock inox finishthe frame you cant really polish, youd have to strip it and polish it, personally id prefer to just go for the traditional 'ghost' look and just cerakote it in a lighter color that has a bit of a shine to it to better match the slideif you want a really polished one, your best bet is a derya melik that they offer in a nickel and gold plated finish and ive been swapping parts out with nickel plated parts to match & lose the cartel look it hadthese are my berettas im turning into sword cutlasses, i plan on laser engraving the derya to have the same engravings Revy's pistol has and ill probably leave the actual beretta more stock & just go for a 'ghost' look to itim waiting on some more inox parts to show up to install on the beretta to get rid of the black parts & i have sword cutlass replica grips & an extended, raw stainless steel barrel showing up for the derya soon
>>64998394Not great, not terriblehttps://www.gunbroker.com/guns-firearms/search/completed?keywords=p226%20elite&pagesize=48&sort=4&view=2&timeframe=1
>>64998464I prefer his X feed
>>64998582Ben did a photo op with SF and a seminar type class. SF does not use his methods of grip, stance or anything else. If you had served you would know why and what this mutual PR event was. On the flip side of this when SF and the military switched it's combative training they used a system based and designed off the Gracie BJJ system. This was both mutual PR and an adoption of the system.I don't know who pastebin is. I don't care about your sa/da opinion. I am a veteran and have been employed in private sector security. Personally I think half the posters here now are a bunch of morons who migrated during the red purge and are fanboy level. Believe me. Don't believe me. Try entering a doorway, window, or hallway the way Ben teaches it. It takes bit a grain of common sense to understand why it's not for real world use. Has nobody here served? How were you trained to go around a corner? Yeah.
>>649963094 magazines, 3 is all you need but regardless of anything, id always go +1, just so you have a spare magazine in case one breaks, you can either part out a magazine to fix it or just use the spare onereally dont need to part out a magazine unless you have things like magazine extenders or have a fancy engraved/painted one or something
>>64998455dude at a minimum yoiu need to at least cut the tape around the magazine releaseeven if its right by it in the game, that will impede actual usage you will either not be able to drop a mag or the button is going to get jammed in and the mags wont click in
>>64998720How much have you studied Ninjitsu? Enough to protect the virginity of the mayor's nephew if he gets kidnapped by predatory homosexuals?
>>64998720>Has nobody here served?why would it? within a couple years of getting out of high school i was making way more than i would have in the military, plus no back injuries and freedom to do what i wantnot knocking people who do but the only war going on when i couldve enlisted was the endless war in afghanistan where we were just giving money to afghanistan and training them, it was pointless & the only reason to join was for free college>How were you trained to go around a corner?i wasn't, i just think guns are coolyou dont need super fancy training to do good either, just look at the guy who stopped the mass shooter in the indiana mall, dude just went to the range and drilled in the basics and he did goodim sure ill never be as good as him or military/special forces but i dont need to be, i just like being comfe and shooting targets
>>64998453Doubtful standard or +P would make much difference, go with 124 gr HSTs or Gold Dots
>>64998547>>64998720>tactitard rambling>no groups, no gunsmany such cases. Shooting is shooting, retard.
should have an extended, ported barrel & the replica sword cutlass grips for the derya within a monthworking on getting 5 magazines with these engraved baseplates too to match the sword cutlass themealso just waiting for the last of the inox parts to arrive for my actual beretta to finish 'ghosting' iti wanted to get different grips for it to match but the black rubber grips are surprisingly comfy
>>64998637Oh, I've seen one of his videos before and also thought he might be one of the retards that posts on /k/.>anti red dot>autism boner for old guns>revolverfag>one handed shooting>is brownHe definitely checks a lot of boxes for a local tardy.>>64998803You need to understand that anon is an elite covert operator with triple digit confirmed kills in tactical situations, but posting any proof of his shooting ability would compromise his opsec. Just look at the fallout from that infamous PR event between Ben Stoeger and the special forces that totally happened and needs no further explanation.
>>64998757>>64998771>>64998803People who give the most volume of opinions and advice here. Also the least qualified to have an opinion on the subject. Enough said.
>>64998823here your (you)
Someone just shot themselves with a Shadow 2 while in the holster
I have a question but I'm saving it for right nowWhat is the best German non-polymer autoloader in 9mm/.45 ACP?
>>64998879pdp steel frame
>>64998879Sig 227/228
>>64998804Shiny. Better than a PT92 for the mockup?
>>64998879
>>64998804Where'd you get the inox parts from? And I agree with the stock grips being comfy, I wanted to get some fancy ones for mine but I put it off because I like the feel of these.
>>64998898i havent fired or held a pt92 but my guess is the pt92 would be a better quality than the deryathe derya is a turkshit clone of the beretta 92FSits still fine but the overall quality of everytthing is noticeable worse on the derya but it was also just under $600 for the nickel and gold plated derya melik and it has the slide mounted safety, which matches Revy's pistol more than a stainless/nickel pt92didnt realize it wasnt a perfect clone either, i've had to hand fit a lot of parts and it was a lot of hand polishing to make it all match, not sure if it was worth saving the ~$400 compared to just getting an italian ghost inox but i also do want to get the sword cutlass engravings and i dont think i could bring myself to engrave a real beretta with that, i dont mind doing it to a turkshit range toyi also do like these projects just because i wind up learning a lot of history of the gun & understanding how the gun works, its kinda fun
>>64998906midwest gun works & the trigger pin is just a nickel plated one from ebaytechnically not stainless & doesnt match perfectly but its also so small you can't notice it unless you look closely at itim debating buying a nickel plated extractor because i cannot find an inox extractor to save my life, everywhere says its discontinuedive read a lot of forums about people 'ghosting' the american inox and what ive read is beretta only sells the parts in small batches a few times a year(historically spring) so you have to get email notifications or setup something to monitor a web page to notify when it says its in stockcurrently it looks like its out of stock again, i was using notifications from midwest gunworks and got the inox safety, hammer, trigger, recoil rod, lanyard loop, & firing pin block all from midwest gun works across the past month or so, im hoping that the parts arent like a year wait for youLTT might also have the trigger job in a bag with all nickel plated parts that look very inox like come in stock again but that kit is also $600 but it is also a complete upgrade to all the springs and trigger action
>>64998906to add onto >>64998937, id highly recommend skipping the inox trigger bar & getting the LTT NP3 trigger barhuge upgrade to the trigger reset, doesnt perfectly match the inox look but its very similar and its a night & day different for the trigger, after installing it i'd never use a stock beretta again
>>64998906sorry for autismo multiple replies, figured describing the color difference is retarded when i could've just taken a picture
bought a bodyguard 2.0 todaynov 2025 production. doesn't seem to have any glaring QC issues after 50+ dry fireshow do I avoid feed issues?
This gun has the Langdon NP3 kit
>>64998740I think it might've been a mistake anyway, the tape seems more slippy than grippy with a sweaty handKind of want to put the Rami slide on the compact frame which works according to CZ forums but nowhere to find one sadly
>>64998970Never seen a bobbed hammer on a 92 before. DAO?
>>64998970that pistol is pure sexo
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/pistols/heckler-koch-pistols-usp/heckler-koch-used-45c-45-acp.cfm?gun_id=103510920Is this a good price a d decision conceal carry gun?
>>64998963Yeah, I see the difference, but I think I could live with it. Thanks for the info, I've seen the parts you talked about, but noticed they were all out of stock. Suppose I'll just be checking my email waiting for restock notifications, while accepting that mine's going to look how it is for a while longer.
>>64998889Been looking into these a lot lately but if I were to pay that much for a range toy/occasional competition gun I don't know if I'd be able to swallow paying that much for a striker, even if it's supposedly the very best one on the market
>>64999010if you have the patience, another option is sanding off the finish & polishing partsthe disassembly button in >>64998963 this picture was a spare black disassembly button i had & i just sanded it down, didn't even polish ityou can still see the scratches in it from it, polishing & buffing would fix that, it just wont be as corrosion resistant, i decided to just get the actual inox parts because half the reason to have the inox is because of its corrosion resistance
>>64998989No and no.
>>64998970That gun has a gay kit
what's the most durable 22lr revolver under $1000?
>>64999154Wrangler or Heritage Rough Rider
>>64999158shut up troll
>>64999174A troll would pick NAA
>>64999185>64999185dude answer the question or log out of 4Chan
>>64998005What sort of defense loads are you running there, fellow CA XD anon>>64998034It has a better grip and trigger, much more comfortable to shoot than a Gen3>>64998115>Loading handgun magazines>cause some sorenessI shouldn't be surprised that the twat who has a problem with me suffers from dainty arms>>64997752I told you to first>>64998275Defense loads from reputable manufacturers like HST 9x19 will expand reliably from barrels short as three inches>>64997933Obsession with me can't be good for you>>64998606Apparently, I'm not allowed to leave for a few hours without you schizo posting about me>>64998415The 50 FPS gain is an average and unlikely to make an appreciable difference provided the bullet design itself is GTG
>>64999199Digits ignored. A .22 revolver is a range toy
>>64999199Single six, I guess, it's thicker than wrangler and bearcat. Plus, you get a 22 wmr cylinder.
>>64999217>provided the bullet design itself is GTG800 fps might be enough to expand a super special buscadero tyconda, not a run of the mill hollow pointagain, this is against the grain of modern terminal ballistics, imo, hollow points that expand at slow speed because they are designed to be weak and bendy, and hollow points that are roughly exposed chonk of soft lead, as well as softpoints, that are forced to expand due to them traveling at breakneck speed, are not the same, and it is the second one that does more damage
>>64999217>>64999224Keep in mind that most of those expansion tests you see run are just ballistics gel, maybe with a layer of fabric. Look at some more realistic tests like the late PH's meat target and you'll see that actually getting expansion is an issue in many self defense loads if there is any significant clothing or bone involved.
>>64999245Bone? You mean a much more debilitating injury of having a bullet punch through a rib shattering it and spitting bone fragments? Expansion doesn’t kill, punching holes in things that are vital are. Expansion prevents the round from exiting and going through 30 layers of the high tech fleece bullet stop
>>64999249You neglect to mention that expansion improves probability of hitting something critical on the way through and causing your target to no longer be an immediate threat, vs just making a nice little hole through a lung while narrowly missing aorta or heart, allowing your target can continue to go nig mode on you while he more slowly bleeds out.
>>64999249>Expansion doesn’t killThere are two ways expansion kills, one is >>64999260Another is commonly seen with rifle projectiles that are intended for hunting. The purpose of expansion is very easily understood by looking at the meat - during the process of expansion, the bullet delivers a lot of damage to the flesh, resulting in wound channel that is sometimes even larger than expanded bullet diameter. A non-expanding bullet pencils through an animal and does not deliver the same damage. It's not the size of the bullet after expansion that kills at high velocity, but the mere fact that meat target experienced the force equal to that which fucked up the shape of the projectile.
>>64998879HK p7
>>64999273False
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>>64998879Get a luger for the drip.
>>64998879Mauser C96 Schnellfeuer>>64999297Based
>>64999154Probably a Ruger GP100 in 22LR.
>>64998879Does the Hi-Power count if it was made in war-time by one of the captured factories?
>>64999402>>64999402>>64999402>>64999402
>>64998720My friend was infantry and he didn't even get a pistol much less train with them. Were you an MP?
>>64999217V crowns>fellow CA XD anonHow'd you know
>>64999217>It has a better grip and trigger, much more comfortable to shoot than a Gen3There was an acceptable answer to this but you failed the speech check. I'm really disappointed in you.
>>64999736>Elite DefenceFancy!>How'd you knowWhen it comes to ban state anons, California is the probability>>64999747:v
>>64999931How'd you know I was in a cucked state?>Fancy!Only ones they had about a year ago. Will probably change to some other after I run these through in a month.
>>64999962>How'd you know I was in a cucked state?NTA, I'm guessing it was the pile of 10rd mags.
>>64999962Because of the capacity restricting dimples on your mags, of course!>Will probably change to some otherSmall world, I used to carry Critical Duty until transitioning to HST
>>64999985>>64999989March 25 calicuckbros
>>65000055
>>64999217>>64999989So there is a Californian here that posts exactly like pastebin?
>>65000131My XD is CA compliant, I never claimed to be Californian myself
>>65000155I knew you wouldn’t do that to me.
>>64996082what, does surprise you everytime
>>64996309all of them
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