>>64997190
Losses are part of war, the longer it goes the more will be lost to friendly fire, mechanical failure and enemy action.
Losing 1 of 600 doesn't matter, losing 60 of 600 hurts, losing 300 of 600 is devastating.
By best guess is another 10 airframes lost on top of the current 6 tankers and 3 F-15s over the next 3 months.

>>64997198
I thought the mantra was "air frames are replaceable, pilots aren't?"

>>64997201
What did I say that makes you think I believe a pilot can be trained faster than a plane can roll off the line?

>>64997198
>Losses are part of war, the longer it goes the more will be lost to friendly fire, mechanical failure and enemy action
jews don't seem to be losing any manned aircraft despite years of continous operation? could it be the higher ashkenazi IQ?

>>64997208
Who has Israel been bombing for years? Palestine, Lebanon and Syria are not Iran.
It's like saying the Mexican cartels can go toe to toe with the Mexican military so they can take on the US military.

>>64997212
>Israel didn't strike Iran high-ranking officials in 2025
>Didn't assassinate 14 nuclear scientists
>didn't launch regular large scale cyberattacks at critical infrastructure for the past 10 years

Shill harder Schlomo.

>>64997212
hezbollah has more or less the same SAMs as the houthis and the us lost an f18 dodging a houthi sam and another to an error or something while bombing the houthis. israel fought hezbollah for far longer the the us fought the houthis. not to mention israel also flew nonstop missions to iran in the 12 day war

>>64997221
>>64997223
You don't understand, how many sorties did Israel run into Iran, how many have the US run into Iran.

Did you know the Australians lost way less aircraft than the US in Vietnam? Why might that be?

>>64997190
>missile goes straight through the jets path
I thought AA missiles were proximity based and not impact?

>>64997226
so the US still lost 2 planes fighting the houthis

>>64997232
If your point is the US should sit this out and let Israel deal with it solo I agree.

>>64997237
my point is that the us sloppier than israel and makes more mistakes.

>>64997246
>Seeing Israel has made it illegal to film attacks on Israel
>I think they are just better at hiding loses.
let me guess... you got this info from thirdworlders on xitter? because there are like 9 different angles of attacks from last night. and there is drone footage of the damage

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This is what is likely getting the footage of the attempted shootdowns. Seems to be flying low enough to spot for ambushes, might not be long before something is actual shot down over Iran (unless jets start to fly higher). Might not have happened earlier due to risk of friendly hits (as seen before attempting to hit a Mig-29)

>>64997246
We see plenty on satellite footage and by Israelis videoing in person. Their accuracy really sucks

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>>64997246
>>64997255
>Hiding damages
>linking CNN
You know we've got drone footage of yesterdays damage on fucking Al-Jazeera, right ?

>>64997255
how are they better at hiding losses if there are multiple videos showing damage? you just linked an article that has nothing to do with what you said

>>64997269
Please, show me where yesterdays strike hit anything military related, Il wait.

>>64997269
>Outlets need to give photos and videos to the IDF
outlets, retard. they are talking about outlets. do you really think this stops a random person from uploading a video online after taking it?

>>64997284
>You still haven't read the first paragraph.
answer the question, retard. do you think this stops a random person from uploading a video after recording it?

>>64997270
Do you mean the last 2 seconds of the video as seen here >>64997231 where the jet is very obviously dropping flares?

>>64997284
He's got a point. You can't refute him without sounding angry.

>>64997281
There he is
>>64997284
>Deflecting
So 0 evidence than

>>64997284
>It is fun arguing with IDF trying to make Israel sound like a free democracy while having China level censorship.
how the fuck are we getting constant footage from israel of interceptions, impacts and damage? you guys live in a completely different reality. one where iran isn't getting clobbered

>>64997289
In a country with the second tightest internal internet security and billions in Palantir contracts? Yes.

>>64997299
I wish someone paid me for the simple reason that I have 2 working eyes and can think for myself.

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>>64997297
so how tf do we keep getting footage like this? this was from last night

>>64997305
>May we see that footage?
from last night. will you get out of your psychosis state now? nah probabbly not

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>>64997314
we accept your concession and admission

>>64997190
/pol/trannies are saying it got shot down because of the flare deployment LMAO, those jeet copers are getting desperate.

>>64997309
Feel free to show us when the jet gets hit or explain why the jet suddenly combusts in a manner that looks exactly like flares would on thermals. Surely a highly intelligent non-retard like yourself is capable of doing so.

>>64997313

>Isreal hides loses and claiming their self reported loss data is accurate is like trusting Russian numbers.

seems like you're making conclusions based on a whole lot of nothing, but what you want reality to be. there's zero evidence Israel hides its losses. people just say that because they are shocked at how low they are. right now, they are in south lebanon and yet ther'es nothing that would suggest hezbollah is inflicting high losses. zero.

After Iran is dealt with and Cuba kneels we need to deal with India so I don't have to read threads full of people arguing shit with absolutely no justification or evidence because they got paid 30 cents to smear shit on a phone screen for five hours

>>64997231
doesn't seem to be getting raped at all, the only rape i'm seeing is the destruction of the iranian military.

>>64997284
>it's fun arguing with IDF
you're not arguing with the IDF, you're arguing with white people, your betters.

>>64997314
>nu/pol/ user
embarrassing self report that you're part of the reddit containment board, but alright.

>>64997351
>m-my sole argument is that YOU, not me, are coping the about this fanfiction the same reason you totally coped about my OTHER fanfiction
both of them are fanfiction, so we're not coping about them and we don't really take them seriously, abdul.

>>64997364
>if i project being a discord user, they won't notice
kek, sorry your fanfiction doesn't get taken seriously, you'd think living in the real world and not coming up with imaginary victories would be better for winning a war, but brownoids continue to lie to themselves and invent shootdowns that didn't happen so the sting of their favourite dictatorship's leaders getting pancaked is soothed a little.

>>64997351
>Iran has TOTALLY REKT a grand total of two aircraft, only one was damaged and both landed safely
For those keeping score, the mighty fortress Iran is far behind the performance of Iraq in 2003

>>64997351
>when the F35 got rekt.
it got rekt so hard the pilot was able to land it on a friendly base.

>>64997190
Iran's most advanced SAM is a local equivallent of an S-300, Bavar-373.
The use a lot of US Hawk systems (yes, really), and generally losses would be expected to be mostly because of an ambush IR missile or lucky S-300.
Losses are likely and expected, this is war. Depends in pilots and countermeasures how many they will be.
Here is a video back from the 90s where an F-16 dodges six SAMs, including SA-6, the countermeasures misfired so it was all pilot skill creating problems for the missiles by maneuvering.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUjX1RntqVw

>>64997389
>local equivallent of an S-300
i doubt they're using anything with powerful radars. they are using EO and IR tracking

>>64997377
>N-NOOOO YOU'RE A JEW
>O-OKAY, YOU'RE NOT A JEW, SO NOW I'M GONNA SCREECH THAT YOU'RE SOMETHING ELSE
pick one strawman and stick to it, brownoid-san.
>you're a jew's golem for seeing reality, not masturbating over imaginary plane crashes, and hoping iran and israel nuke eachother.

none of your arguments or accusations make any sense, they all clash with eachother because you're fucking terrible at profiling people. and you obsessively profile because that's easier than actually arguing your point and avoids the scary "real world"

>oh most of iran's ballistic missiles hit nothing because they have bad CEP
>S-STUPID JEW
>oh all of these literal twitter who's claiming a jet was shot down aren't reputable sources
>S-STUPID JEW
>oh you're not actively cheering for the destruction of the US 24/7?
>S-STUPID JEW

has it ever occured to you that i don't really give a shit about this war and just want you brown shitheads to get off my board and go back to your containment board?

>>64997383
>fanfiction
lmao.
If I was ever seething at Iran I would be the happiest man alive.
>muh stealf no werk
Third worlder, it was hit by a MANPADS on a stick. It's not invisible or magically non-thermal and no one ever suggested otherwise.

>>64997394
>And they say /k/ isn't funny.
The systems are the same. Hawks are even older. I fail to see what the "funny" part is. Iran is not using some cutting age stuff, most of their stuff is inherited back from the Shah days, they mostly rely on IR guided stuff. The video is an example of pilots dodging missiles without any countermeasure aid.

>>64997383
>are you allowed to admit to the schizophrenic fantasy i created inside my head
loaded question, goes in the garbage bin.
the F35 is one of the best jets ever made, it's indisputable which is why you can only resort to ad-hominems, spamming rare videos of it crashing in peacetime (which it does less than everyone else's jet aircraft btw), or literally fabricating a fake event where one got shot down.
>seething at iran
not recognizing your fantasies as real is not seething.

>>64997416
>the american jeets
:D

>>64997407
>watching 3rdworlders fantasizing about things that never happened
best timeline indeed

>thirdies still dont seem to realize that posting obvious disinfo and defending it to your last breath makes people LESS likely to believe you in the future.

just because you're anonymous doesn't mean we can figure out you're a shill.

>>64997408
>/k/vetching
i'm not a jew, therefore i cannot kvetch, you continue to seethe that your fantasies are denied, however.
>b-best timeline
now say that without crying, your fake-smug act needs some work.
>>64997407
most of the people who obsessively spam threads claiming
>h-here's how iran can still win if they take out this one piece of material the US has thousands of!
are indeed brown.
personally, i don't think any side is going to actually win this war, because it has no direction or purpose, but i want you fuckers off my board because the perversion of truth you foster in every single discussion is obnoxious
>I DON'T CARE ABOUT REALITY, I JUST WANT WESTERN JETS TO BE SHOT DOWN EVEN IF THEY AREN'T.
fuck off nigger, go masturbate about your twitter threads on nu/pol/

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>>64997435
>YOU ARE BROWNNNNN
BOOP BOOOP BOOOOOP BOOOOOOOOP

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>>64997424
it has he best tech/sensor suite. and apparently, it's also good at eating fragmentation

>>64997450
any moment now iran will post wreckage of the f35 proving this claim wrong. we just have to wait a little while

>>64997424
>i-it's not
i figured, i guess getting an actual real response that's not just crying from you is a fool's errand.
anyway, concession accepted.

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>>64997430

>>64997443
>then why invent fantasies about US jets being shot down?
I didn't, I pointed out the US has lost a few airframes like the F-15s and KC-135s which is accurate. I think the US will keep losing airframes, not at a rate that threatens readiness rates but at a rate high enough to make it a bad idea.

>>64997451
We've reached the "N-NO U" stage of saar chimpout. This thread will be unusable within the hour due to spam.

>>64997451
in english, please, brownoid-san.
did you mean
>this poster
because if so, you're wrong, that's a bunch of different people making fun of your meltdown, not one guy.

>>64997440
>6 seconds long
>doesn't look like an IR track of an F35 at all, exhaust is the same temperature as the entire jet
KEK.

>>64997466
And there we go, a zigger.

>>64997351
I personally have not coped about the F-35 hit, that one is very clear. Also I'm not american, however you are welcome to tell me what "overpriced-overhyped junk" you think it is that Finland sells if you really did not delusionally mistake me for an american.

>>64997466
>shits up
>/pol/
First of all you would like that, second of all the fact that you even thought this was a valid concept and were invested enough to post it verifies everything anyone has said or will say about you.

>>64997466
>who shits up /pol/
>shits up
>/pol/
nu/pol/ niggers truly are an unending source of comedy.

there is nothing to "shit up" in your little containment board, zigger-san, we never bother going there because it is THE reddit gateway board and containment zone for newfags such as you, you should go back there, because you don't belong on any of the other boards, nobody wants you.

>>64997190
I thought F35 web yesterday was AI

>>64997473
>Y-YOU'RE A JEW YOU'RE A JEW YOU'RE A JEW
whatever makes you sleep at night, abdul.
now shoo shoo, back to nu/pol/

Reminder that there's still no proof that Iran actually managed to hit the F-35.

>>64997482
it likely is, considering centcom hasn't confirmed any hit, and we have no footage beyond 6 second clip that doesn't accurately portray an F35 in IR track, which happens to be the exact length that many free AI gens limit you to.

if iran actually hit one, and the F35 didn't just have mechanical issues and RTB, they would have posted extensive footage of it to boast, because this is something they do every time without fail when they have a propaganda victory, they haven't so it didn't happen.

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>>64997483
Thank you for making me pull this reaction image out of cold storage, I've missed it for so long.
You come to the white people board celebrating a plane getting damaged while another of your allies is burning, its leaderships scattered by the wind, its bases turned into smoking craters. And yet you keep reading Hindustan Times, and coping that damaging a plane means Iran could still win.
Words cannot describe how pathetic you BRICShitters are. Go back to radarposting, at least those were destroyed, which means Iran could still win by bombing its neighbors.

>>64997499
>thinks the WEAPONS board is a brown board
Where do you think you are, /leftypol/?

>>64997483
>/pol/ g-got /k/ to [brownoid fantasy]
lol
>w-we
you're all alone brownoid-san
>y-you don't belong on nu/pol/
thank god, it's a slightly edgier reddit, what kind of fucking loser would want to belong to that shithole?
>w-we also told you to fuck off
i haven't been to your containment zone in 5 years silly little zigger, nobody wants you, you are unwelcome in real 4chan AKA everything not nu/pol/ or /int/ or /bant/.
>n-now i find you [brownoid fantasy]
the only one kvetching here is you, you are an outsider, and you escaped your containment board solely to seethe and have a meltdown on /k/.

you have to go back.
>>64997487
>1 minute apart from his last post
KEK seething

>>64997499
yes, which is why you don't belong, you're not white, now go back to the brown board nu/pol/
>>64997506
>w-why are you laughing at me for my schizophrenic fantasies
>b-but meme logic told me le F35 was an expensive boondoggle, why are all the people who actually know stuff about weapons laughing at me?
it's a mystery, brownoid-san.

>>64997506
Turns out this isn't /pol/ or brown people twitter where you can substitute the mass opinion of seething third worlders for reality. Notice how none of the brown people in this thread bitching about American jets have a single fact to back up any of their claims.

>>64997511
>imagine a bunch of losers so dumb
i don't have to imagine, you're right here, because you keep escaping your containment board.
>b-but my fantasy
i'm sorry none of your shitholes can shoot down an F35, it's just a jet, not a demigod, and they still fail to do so.

>>64997511
May we see the wreck? And I don't mean the Iranian bases and leadership.

>>64997516
>b-but us mudslimes hate israel too
and at this point i hate you more than israel, retarded mudslime.
you're not in good company just because most people don't like jews, you're still a contrarian brownoid who's shilling for iran.

you literally don't even belong on 4chan, you're not a 4channer, nu/pol/ is a reddit colony and none of you are actually part of the soul of this website.

>>64997516
>But I support Israel's destruction. Can't get any whiter than that.
Just because you are from the pedo desert religion rather than the shekel desert religion does not make you white. You are indistinguishable from Jews besides being poorer and having towels instead of retarded little hats.

>>64997521
>now I'm leaving
Unfortunately I don't believe you, but stay strong soldier, I'm sure you can make it five minutes

>>64997531
>Unfortunately I don't believe you, but stay strong soldier, I'm sure you can make it five minutes
Given that he is such an absurd faggot, I am shocked his family hasn't thrown him from a roof yet.

>>64997521
>i-i barged in your circle jerk
no, you escaped your containment zone and started screeching at your betters, nu/pol/ is the circlejerk, the rest of the site is where all the real people are and they don't want you here.
>s-shat on kikes
no, more like you publicly humiliated yourself and then tried to act smug about it.
>r-refused to elaborate
nice reddit meme friend! i give you two updoots.
>b-bye
>leaves, defeated
KEK.

>>64997537
>but the jet is lost
then why did land at a friendly airbase with minor damage that hasn't even been confirmed to be from a missile?

seriously. just give this narrative a rest, it didn't work.

>>64997537
>I think...
>Iran claims...
hoo boy

>>64997537
You can see a six second video, coinkydinky the average length of AI generated videos.

>>64997537
> I think he made it back and ejected over friendly territory but the jet is lost.
can you retards go for one second without making shit up and projecting your fantasies into the rest of us? unless, you have evidence for that claim that'd be nice

>>64997574
You can see a six second video, coinkydinky the average length of AI generated videos.

>>64997574
well CENTCOM said they did a hard landing. so unless you have evidence to the contrary and not some superfluous assumptions, i am gonna assume you're making shit up

>>64997574
>F35 is the same temperature as it's afterburner exhaust
>video is 6 second long, the exact length limit of most free AI generators
>the pilot made the most of it
nigga it literally RTB'd, and there is still zero confirmation that it was actually enemy action that made it do so.

>>64997574
>In Vietnam it was found...
What does an arbitrary factoid have to do with diagnosing a specific incident which you don't know any of the facts about?

"hmm in this video we see a soccer player twist his ankle, now I looked at my civil war text book and it says you gotta amputate... safe to say the guy's fucked"

>>64997293
>we forced a jet to drop flares
>lololol get rekt americans
lmao even

>>64997574
>which is likely what this guy did
it categorically, emperically ISN'T what this guy did because his jet landed intact at an airbase, you fucking idiot.

>>64997537
>You can see that the F-35 was burning after the hit as it trails twin hot gas tails, one from the afterburner, the other from the fire.
It looked more like a fuel leak to me, but ok

>>64997604
it looks like AIslop.

>>64997611
Anon, I'm on your side. You don't have to cope at me, the plane made it back and the pilot is fine

>>64997190
>IR SAM
lol. lmao even.
just fly a bit high and it won't even be able to reach you, let alone hit you. amerifat pilots just need to stop ego-flying and do their fucking jobs

>>64997432
>less maneuverable
Didn't it beat the Chinese flanker in maneuvarability?

>>64997613
anon, we are on the same side. i'm just saying that shit is AI slop.
how else would you explain the aircraft glowing as bright as its exhaust on IR?

>>64997628
>how else would you explain the aircraft glowing as bright as its exhaust on IR?
IR grading maxes out. if it was weighted to max out at exhaust temp, everything else would be uniform grey

>>64997208
Israel has fewer planes and fewer pilots than the US while being constantly at war.
Their pilots are genuinly better trained and more experienced.

>>64997613
i know the pilot is fine and the plane landed due to "issues" but that is literally the only actual information we have.

if iran genuinely had actual footage of an F35 being hit they would spam that everywhere, on every site, at full length, and they're not.

>>64997190
Iranians use IR guided long range SAMs.
It's a relatively new concept and a new threat.
The huge advantage is that it does not require any active scans, no emissions, from a radar.

Thus passive radar warning receivers do not pick it up.

What you need is a missile approach warner, which either works by detecting the IR signature of the missile (only in active boost phase, mostly, not in glide) or millimeter wave radar with 360° coverage.

The F-35 has IR based MAWS, the F-15EX has radar based MAWS. Radar is superior, but more expensive.
I wonder if this was an EX or if the pilot saw it coming since it seemed to come from the front.
Another advantage of the EX is 2 crew, the pilot can spend a lot more time looking around and leave radio, radar and coms to the 2nd guy.

>>64997651
direct countermeasure that blind the sensors of eo/ir missiles are already a thing. i am just suprised the f35 doesn't have them

>>64997651
>it's a relatively new concept
nigger, are you for real? no it's not.
>it does not require any active scans, no emissions, from a radar
gee, you think? kind of stating the obvious there
>thus passive warning recievers do not pick it up
wow really, revolutionary knowledge.

it's an IR missile, you fucking moron, it's an ancient concept.
sorry for perhaps sounding a bit passive-aggressive, but come the fuck on anon, really? it's an IR missile, it's not new.

>>64997655
To blind it you need to know it is there and looking.
As I outlined the F-35 IR based MAWS can't reliably detect missiles which are coasting after boost due to the lack of IR rocket motor flash.

>>64997659
>>64997651
>>it's a relatively new concept
>nigger, are you for real? no it's not.
I am not suffering from high pigmentation. Traditionally long-range SAMs were radar based due to the ability of radar to penetrate weather, while IR is weather dependent.
But due to the US focus on detecting and jamming radar emissions, the few systems Iran can hide and pull out occasionally from a bunker, without friendly air force coverage, would be ineffective against the US.
So they use IR based long range systems to harass the US forces.
This has never been done before in combat. Usually IR systems are short range for weather reasons.

>>it does not require any active scans, no emissions, from a radar
>gee, you think? kind of stating the obvious there
I have learned over the years that the average /k/ poster has the intellect of a dim-witted child and requires such preambles.
As we can see from your misguided post, my previous explanation, while elaborate, still was insufficient for you to grasp the concept, leading you to lash out with primitive insults.

>it's an IR missile, you fucking moron, it's an ancient concept.
The nuance of the novelty being the range and total absence of radar seems entirely lost to your mind.
Did you lock on to the first offensive contradiction your mind couldn't immediately square since it requires the consideration of a second factor, which is outside of your mind's memory capacity and chimped out like a negroid?

>sorry for perhaps sounding a bit passive-aggressive, but come the fuck on anon, really? it's an IR missile, it's not new.
Yeah you did.
Could you please work on your impulse control, or maybe get shot by a cop? Either works for me, frankly.

>>64997679
>To blind it you need to know it is there and looking.

hence why i said i am surprised. i wonder if israeli modifications are different. they love their active counter measures

>>64997679
>b-but it's long range
long range IR missiles are also not new, your retarded, overly verbose spiel was completely pointless and made you sound even more like a retard.

>>64997692
>I doubt they're dumb enough to fly it over Iranian SAMs they leave that to burger mutt goycattle
considering they shotdown a Yak over Tehran with an F35, you'd be dead wrong.

>>64997692
>b-burger mutt goycattle
kek seething
>i-i doubt they're dumb enough to fly it over iranian sams
the US and israel have been flying dozens of sorties over iranian sams in iran for a few weeks now, nigger-anon.

>>64997705
but anon, the truth hurts his fragile little brownoid feelings, you can't do that!

>>64997701
They are, especially when specifically avoiding a radar for air search to avoid being HARM'ed.
Stop being a negroid.

>>64997692
>I doubt they're dumb enough to fly it over Iranian SAMs
They've been doing it for years, you stupid brown faggot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2024_Israeli_strikes_on_Iran
Now we're both doing and all of the sudden it's UNGA BUNGA HURRR SACRIFICIAL GOYYY, meanwhile the greatest setback you can point to is a safe landing.

>>64997713
>they are
they aren't, longer range IR sams have been a thing for a while now, stop being a niggerfaggot.

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>>64997679
nta, but, The Majid and its AD-08 are by no means long range, 8-15km if we take the numbers thrown out to the press at face value.
Radar is the standard for guiding long range anti-air munitions for a reason, and its not because the Iranians figured out something others havent.
It being a passive system dosent mean there are no solutions to figuring out its there, those have been around for a while now, if you know you know.
As vid related shows, it still gets dabbed on by Reaper fired hellfire missiles.

>>64997198
The five tankers in saudi arabia weren't total losses just some shrapnel damage. as for the f15s, that was a very isolated event and is unlikely to happen again

>>64997651
>Iranians use IR guided long range SAMs.
proof?

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>>64997734
>as for the f15s, that was a very isolated event and is unlikely to happen again
I recon you never interacted much with military personel?

>>64997260
>direct hit on mobile THAAD batteries
>their accuracy sucks

>>64997754
>recon
reckon
>personel
personnel
>vague statements about stupid normies
Ironic.
No, we won't surrender to Iran tomorrow because 1,500 jets are shot down by friendly fire. And before you trot out your favorite Voltaire quote or something, I would advise you that pithy statements should not be your personality.

>>64997722
they really showed those trucks and a jet from the 50's. such fire power. such weaponry.

>>64997486
any sources my fellow racist ? I'm playing competitively so I need the best racism out there

>>64997754
the shootdown was a sandnigger fuck up. they might fuck up again but not in the same way

>>64997773
>your paki bitch boys
Indians thinking anyone distinguishes between them and Pakis is one of the funniest ongoing gags in this timeline

>>64997746
There can be no proof until somebody gets a SAM stuck in their wing and flies home with it.

That being said, it's the onlly logical conclusion. Long-range IR missiles are not exactly new, the Soviets built entire generations of them in the 70s and 80s.
There is no technologicxal barrier stopping anyone from ground-launching the old IR guided R-27.

It won't be good, it won't hit most of the time, but with some sort of IRST from Temu to aim it you got yourself a passive AD setup that is at the very least not getting flattened by 69 different anti radiation missiles.

>>64997759
NTA but the THAAAD hardware they hit had been sitting in that place for weeks.

>>64997722
>nta, but, The Majid and its AD-08 are by no means long range, 8-15km

They are compared to what came before in that realm, which is manpads with 2-3km range.

>Radar is the standard for guiding long range anti-air munitions for a reason
What reason, being detected by an EW pod and eating a HARM?
Radar based SAMs clearly are Lockmart propaganda. Iranians too smart to fall for it.

>its not because the Iranians figured out something others havent
You can get all cute with semantics, they're the first ones to employ IR only SAMs avoiding using radars they clearly have to avoid detection.
And they successfully engaged dozens of drones and even F-35 with it.
It is clearly working.
Previously F-35 worked around S-300 with ease, now we see it shot down by a much simpler system.

>It being a passive system dosent mean there are no solutions to figuring out its there, those have been around for a while now, if you know you know.
As vid related shows, it still gets dabbed on by Reaper fired hellfire missiles.

Nobody ever claimed that. You niggers always pretend something needs to be invincible to be useful because you got indoctrinated with discovery channel documentaries and marvel slop.
The Iranian IR SAM shot down F-35 because it poses enough of a challenge to be found that there are windows where it can work effectively.

Obviously it will still face attrition.
But so will Planes hunting it.

You seem not very intelligent.

>>64997759
those were drones. it's much easier to make them precise. ballistic missiles on the other hand are a diffeent story

>>64997826
Source: Anus

>>64997835
>no air force, navy or nukes
Oh, weird. Why's that? Why don't they have those things, sarrr? Can you explain?

>>64997822
>You seem not very intelligent
God give me strength

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>>64997835
>S-400 says hello

>>64997826
>drones cab fly all the way over to Jordan without being detected and intercepted
You sure you wanna go with this cope?

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>>64997822
>The Iranian IR SAM shot down F-35

>>64997822
>It is clearly working.
Even if we assume iran shot down one (1) single f35 so far, that's a really really poor trade for having the US and israel run a train on their entire country from the air. That's not "working", that's "token resistance that got a lucky hit in" at best. It's like people assume that any attrition the US takes is a devastating irrecoverable loss but all of those JDAMs and missiles just bounce straight off of iran to no effect.

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>>64997836
MRBM travel at speeds greater than mach 5, can suffer from plasma shielding and need sophisticated INS systems . drones travel at slow ass speeds. a college kid can make a decently precise one using civilian technology. let's see them make one that can reenter the atmosphere at mach 5 and still hit its target.

>>64997852
>You sure you wanna go with this cope?
we saw drones very early on in the war hit an NSA target in a base bahrain precises. it's not cope. it's a fact. most of the american soldiers killed in the attacks were also killed by drones

the fact remains, iran's ballistic missiles are dogshit. which is why hasn't used them to disable any israeli airbases

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>>64997190
>same one that hit the F35

wasn't that debunked?

>>64997779
It's Iran's most modern equipment at this point.

>>64997847
Being religious, i.e. believing in a mass delusion, is not a sign of intelligence. It is a sign of the absence of intelligence.

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>>64997835
>Jeet calling other shitskins inbred
That's a good one

>>64997895
>Lots of technobabble
>No source

ok

>>64997835
Your skin is brown lol

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>>64997779
Here, Il help you. Now you wanna take a wild guess as to where that cable from the back of the truck leads to ?

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>>64997955
so you have no actual proof

This clip is very sus. Source?

>>64997969
>Source?
brown twitter

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>>64997948
>retards on /k/ now ask for sources on the most obvious shit
we have fallen very far.

radio frequency blackout. have you heard of it nigger?

>>64997986
Obviously a solved problem since ballistics and hypersonics surrounded by plasma have had precision guidance for decades now.

>>64998003
>Obviously a solved problem
not by iran and not by russia, maybe by china. unless you have evidence to the contrary. even in this video >>64997310 the ballistic missile didn't hit anything of importance and landed on soft ground

>>64998014
Yeah nobody except you retarded burger shills believes that, we've seen hundreds of videos showing the opposite by now.

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>>64998016
>we've seen hundreds of videos showing the opposite by now.

please show me one example. but first take a look at this video, in it an air control tower cabin about 8m in diameter gets hit by a supersonic missile that uses nothing but gps and ins. show anything that comes remotely close to this for irans MRBMs

>>64998016
But the serious damage was from drones?

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>Russia openly providing intel and AA equipment to kill American pilots
>Donald lifts sanction on Russian oil and continuously attack Zelensky on social media

biggest traitor president in history?

>>64998041
The next step on your shill manual is to call it AI slop.
>>64998047
>But the serious damage was from drones?
So you are trying to convince us that the Iranians are smart enough to build ballistic missiles, but dumb enough to give them working guidance, but also smart enough to build highly effective drones that effortlessly take out 2 billion $ US radars?
I struggle with that, since I am not schizophrenic.

>>64998041
>1735430845478.mp4
no way that's a supersonic missile. that explosion is way too small.

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>>64997231
So, it was down?

>>64998059
call what AI slop? do you have video evidence or not?

>>64998061
>that explosion is way too small
supersonic has nothing to do with warhead size? is all of /k/ retarded now?

>>64998062
no my swarthy friend, it wasn't

>>64998066
>supersonic has nothing to do with warhead size? is all of /k/ retarded now?
are you retarded now? it makes no sense to invest in a hypersonic missile if it cannot carry a big warhead.
name the weapon anyways. for me this looks like rampage. tiny warhead for tiny explosion.

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>>64997190
>F15 dodging a SAM
This one came too close to aliexpress AA.
https://www.jpg.wtf/izro9f.mp4

>>64998059
It’s much easier to guide a drone than blind fired rockets.

>>64998081
yes, it's a rampage doing what it does best. precision >>> warhead size, retard

>>64998102
you're stupid as fuck

>>64997320
Their lawns look like dogshit.

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>>64998106
why would you need a bigger boom if a smaller one can achieve the same effect if precise? what year do you think it is? also, do you know about diminishing effects from the cube-root-scaling law? increasing explosive yiled by 8x will only double the blast radius

>>64997190
>how likely are they to lose one or more in the future
Low but still possible. As has been said a gorillion times by anyone with a brain. This vid and last week's vid show an IR designator manually painting targets within visual range. It's clear they depend on hiding in strike zones with hopes of hitting singular planes with manual painting. This is both labor and time intensive. Additionally the planes should be flying with packages that help alert for the painting so we should see continued dodges like this. Doesn't mean you won't see more IR painter videos tho. But they certainly aren't stopping the bombs

>>64997722
that faggot's really out here pretending that a ground based IR missile with a range of 15 km is a "revolutionary new form of long-ranged IR missile that's never been seen before.

>>64997805
i wouldn't consider those examples long range. long range is entirely different in the context of sams. i know that ir missiles are a thing. but there's nothing long range about them. unless they're complemented by radar

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>>64997190
>probably the same one that hit the F35
If that actually happened and it was the same system then there would be footage of it, now wouldn't there?

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>>64997822
>they are compared to what came before in that realm
no, for a "long ranged" IR missile 15 kilometers is fucking nothing anon, what are you smoking?
>y-you can get all cute with semantics
that's what you're doing, you're claiming a missile with about the range of a ground-launched AIM9 is revolutionary and super long range.
>avoiding using radars
they're not "avoiding using radars"
it's just all they have left, their radar based AA all got raped, doesn't mean they didn't have it.

>and they succesfully engaged F35
we still have no actual confirmation of this, so no.
>now we see it shot down by a much simpler system except we don't, because it wasn't shot down.
>the iranian IR SAM shot down F-35
but it didn't, though, i don't know why that's such a difficult reality for you to accept
>could it conceivably shoot down an F35
maybe
>did it
not yet.

>>64997955
>common knowledge
no, it's a narrative that's being spammed and you guys get very upset when people remind you that it's not true.

>>64997907
yes, but brownoids ITT have trouble accepting that fact.
>>64997980
>behave like a shill
>intentionally lie about a subject (in this case that an F35 was shot down when it's literally confirmed it wasn't.
>get called a shill
>*shocked.jpg*
fuck off, faggot, your crocodile tears mean nothing to me.

>(you)'s a-are updoots right?
no, they're not, it just means a lot of people are replying to you, because you're a retard.

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>>64998172
better vid

>>64998059
>i don't understand how ballistics, re-entry plasma, and drone guidance work
we know
>iranians are smart enough to build ballistic missiles
propulsion is probably the easiest part of rocketry, especially nowadays, so yes
>but dumb enough to not give them working guidance
good INS guidance is extremely difficult and their shitty knockoff chinese GPS is being heavily jammed, so yes.

their missiles have bad CEP, you'll just have to learn to accept that some day instead of seething about it.

>>64998086
>literally incapable of not lying about the contents of a video you posted
embarrassing.

>>64998195
Filthy american dog! Clearly propulsion is the hard part of glorious iranian hypertech missiles, which we- I mean, they- have completely mastered and can use to destroy the entire US fleet! Just look at this webm of iranian missiles hitting 14 US aircraft carriers at once!

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>>64998195
>their missiles have bad CEP, you'll just have to learn to accept that some day instead of seething about it.

Iran shills want to pretend this never happened. it looks spectacular when the missiles hit the ground, but it turns out most of them hit open areas and barely do anything to hardened shelters

>>64997537
>You can see that the F-35 was burning after the hit as it trails twin hot gas tails, one from the afterburner, the other from the fire. I think he made it back and ejected over friendly territory but the jet is lost.
There is a reason the Iranians cut the video very quickly after the missile detonation, because the airplane kept flying normally.
I doubt it crashed later.

>>64998202
>iranian missiles hitting 14 US aircraft carriers at once
link?

>>64998237
i always find it hilarious the cycle they go through
>1: oooh implessive video of missile hitting the ground, surely they must have all struck their designated strategic targets (even if we have zero evidence of this)
>2: videos and photo's emerge of what the missiles actually hit, most of them hit empty patches of desert, some hit civilian buildings, many of them strike some sidewalk or road and explodes some unfortunate merchant walking there
>3: o-oh, n-none of them actually hit their target, w-well ACTUALLY ACTUALLY we MEANT to strike all of those completely random spots on the map, you see, terrorbombing those jews will make them kick bibi out!

they do this same thing over and over again and then wonder why white people stop taking their claims seriouisly.

like guys, very implessive that another 10 jewish civilians died to multimillion dollar missile systems, but we were expecting a little bit more.

>>64998249
it's a 6 second video because it's very likely AI generated. they'd show the whole thing to brag about it as much as possible if they actually hit one.
>i doubt it crashed later
it has been confirmed for days now that it didn't.
as of yet, the only actual information is
>F35 encountered mechanical problem (non-specific, could be anything from birdstrike to some system failing and needing maintainance)
>F35 lands back at airbase
>pilot is fine
that's the info we have, yet people keep trying to create make-believe stories around this incident.

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>>64998269
meanwhile some airstrikes in iran look like volcanic eruptions

>>64998299
US/Jew strikes on Iran have been extremely well targeted. ~8,000 strikes and one mistake (the school) thus far.

Although, if you ask nicely we certainly could start a terror-bombing campaign.

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>>64998286
assasinate that nigger by turning his house into a crater

>>64998301
i like weapons

>>64998301
(NTA) Do you realize that your incessant spamming of fake bullshit on this board is driving a lot of us who would have said "fuck no" two weeks ago to start to say maybe? Like holy shit

>>64998299
>t-that's a lot of projection
nice zinger buzzword comeback but not a legitimate response, sorry.

>it's also got bad reading comprehension
oh no, it's retarded.

little brown man, i didn't say I said that, i am verbatim quoting YOUR cope when you say that hitting 10-15 civilians with an expensive missile was totally intentional and worth it and they deserve it after it misses it's intended target.

>>64998301
nta but
>everyone who even remotely questions my pro-iranian narrative about the war is le jew
has it ever occurred to you that people on this board are fucking tired of mentally deficient, non-gun/weapon interested faggots like you flooding the board and pretending to know what you're talking about? i don't give a shit who wins this war, i explained multiple times i don't care that iranian missiles hit and kill jews, just stop trying to act like it's impressive, and stop trying to pretend that the bad CEP is an intentional feature.

>>64998308
you forgot all those assassinsted leaders and their families, just as one example

>>64998301
i might start becoming one out of spite if you keep fucking having meltdowns every other hour, brownanon, holy shit. do you not understand you're pushing everyone away from supporting iran with your constant incessant fucking whining and lies? i'm almost at the point where i want to call you a jewish psyop because your ilk are THAT effective at making me hate iran and somewhat tolerate israel.

>>64998334
kys retard

>>64998341
That's not terror bombing, m8 and it goes directly to my point
>kill all those leaders with minimal collateral damage

Again, ask nicely and we can terror bomb to such a degree that future generations have to redefine the term.

>>64998355
>no response
>just crying
i accept your concession.

>>64998269
>3:
The cope now is that Tel Aviv has been reduced to a smoking crater, but all the evidence is being censored, except for the implessive videos of missiles hitting the ground, which prove that Tel Aviv has been reduced to a smoking crater.

>>64998341
>assassinated dictatorship leaders
not terrorbombing
>nooooo you can't hit us that's against the rules
the difference is we have accurate enough weapons that we go out of our way to avoid hitting the fucking salon shop next door. iran literally doesn't have this option, whether they'd like to or not, because their weapons are extremely inaccurate.

>>64998367
Don't forget that they definitely killed Netanyahu with one of those missiles that hit the ground, and that every public appearance since then is actually an AI generated hologram or whatever

>>64998269
> explodes some unfortunate Palestinian walking there
FTFY

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>>64997190
>Fuselage is hotter than exhaust plume
AI slop

>>64998439
>acknowledging that the US + israel are hitting iran harder than iran is hitting them back is bias
well fuck me then, i guess reality is just biased against iran.

stop with these gay ass crocodile tear posts, everyone here already dislikes jews to some degree, the only thing your constant whining is going to do is get people to support the jews out of sheer spite for you.

>>64998301
Me? No. But I sure as hell support them genociding Palestinians and Iranians.

>>64998467
It's almost identical to their fake F-35 video.

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>>64998286
>dat shockwave

Iranians are giving Indians and Pakistanis a run for their money with all of their falsities.

>>64997201
Pilots are replaceable in the short term. If you are stuck fighting an attrition air war then you are already fucked.

>>64998369
>it's not our fault if our weapons are inaccurate
is not a rule that the Geneva Conventions really allow, anon
The military threat is supposed to be commensurate to the risk of collateral damage
Given how inaccurate Iranian weapons are, the risk is quite high

>>64998341
Killing those families is regrettable but acceptable since the strike also managed to kill the high-value target
The rules of armed conflict are that the military objective must be important enough to justify the risk

>>64997399
based

>>64998680
killing the leaders of a nation is unacceptable and Israel (and by extention US) are shitting all over any rules

>>64997198
I rember

>>64998587
I think that one looked "less fake" in that the exhaust plume and fuselage were the same sensor dynamic range limit with it being max hot but this one?
>Exhaust cooler than fuselage
>Proving American UFO and fusion power technology all in one go

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good lord

>>64997190
damn better luck next time

>>64998811
welcome to /K/

>>64998734
They're just mad because they can't pull it off.

>>64998811
yeah, the thirdies have kept the janny quite busy

>>64998188
please point to my post claiming an F-35 was shot down

>>64998911
>i-it wasn't me who said that!
then you also weren't the one people were calling a shill ITT and thus didn't need to make that whiny post.

>>64998811
this is what happens when an online space resists agitprop, it gets bombarded by shills in an attempt to tire the populace out.

>>64998978
I just want to be able to talk about this stuff without having to dodge the retarded shit flinging. It's just relentless coping from both sides. Literally no one is trying to have an honest conversation.

>>64998986
i think the people first and foremost trying not to have an honest conversation are the ones that openly state multiple times in a row that they are tourists from nu/pol/, who keep trying to masturbate a scenario that didn't happen into existence
>guise an F35 was shot down
>cool, do you have a source
>yes look at this schizophrenic twitter user
>that's not a real source
>J-JEW
this has been happening for multiple days now.

and then you come in, as the adult that you are, and say
>now now children, you must all get along
>anon you have to prove to the guy who claimed an f35 was shot down that it wasn't, or you're a meanie and not arguing in good faith.

maybe if the people who were lying stopped lying, there wouldn't be a bad faith conversation.

>>64997198
The benefits we gain by securing Israel far exceed all losses we incur. It is a small price to pay because once Iran is conquered in two more weeks it will bring prosperity by uhhhhh

>>64997208
Ashkenazi IQ isn't particularly high. The myth comes from a study done on schoolchildren.

>>64999003
I'm lumping those guys in with the guys coping that it's an AI video and the F-35 didn't even take a hit despite the fact that it's consistent with all the other SAM footage they've put out. You acting like it's just coming from one side is equally disingenuous.

>>64997252
>>64997264
It's still illegal to film interceptions and incoming missiles in Israel. Don't try to play this retarded game when you and I both know the truth.

>>64998135
>why would you need a bigger boom if a smaller one can achieve the same effect if precise?
because special purpose penetration warheads are more expensive and limited but you have basically unlimited cheap mark 84 bombs

>>64998734
>killing the leaders of a nation is unacceptable
Cite the convention and article

>>64999057
>israel tells citizens to stop recording strikes that were achieved or failed because the enemy can use that as target data
>zomg!11 iran is victorious! israel is lying about losing nao!

>>64999077
>a US president's executive order is an international law of armed conflict
Lol
Lmao

>>64999074
That's one reason, another one is that if there's no footage they can claim whatever they want
If needed they can play the sympathy card
>Zomg they killed 40 babies we need to bomb Iranian schools even harder!
Or the card they usually play
>Haha stupid goyim we intercepted everything at 109% rate, and the only casualty was a muslim haha!

>>64999077
>political
Key word there dumbass. Tactical assassinations are OK

>>64999093
Define "assassination"
>inb4 war is now illegal

>>64999099
kys retard

>>64999093
>guidelines.gif
As long as it isn't explicit assasination it's legal. Killing Solemani was justified as a preemptive strike.

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>>64999084
>israel is doing so to make claims we've holocausted them 6 million times more
>but they're also doing it to hide that we've won the war and have achieved holocausting them 6 million times more

>>64999082
>loac already applied to iran before hostilities commenced
lol
lmao

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>>64999116
No we don't. President gets 48hrs before informing congress, 60 days to wrap up whatever he's doing and 30 days to withdraw the forces. The US has no legal obligation to declare war.

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>>64999120
I'm not but you certainly are brown

>>64999126
>killing political leaders is unheard of throughout history
what

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>>64999126
Cry about it thirdie. It's the an American world and you just live in it.

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>>64999126
>killing political leaders is unheard of throughout history
...lol

>>64999126
>killing political leaders is unheard of throughout history
You should apologize to your history teachers for sleeping through their classes.

>>64999121
war powers resolution is toothless. no president cares. congress can only try to impeach the president which will never work since impeachment needs 2/3 of the votes of the senates to convict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution#Libya,_2011
>May 20, 2011, marked the 60th day of U.S. combat in Libya (as part of the UN resolution) but the deadline arrived without President Obama seeking specific authorization from the U.S. Congress.[29] President Obama notified Congress that no authorization was needed,[30] since the U.S. leadership had been transferred to NATO,[31] and since U.S. involvement was somewhat "limited".

>>64997679
Huh. You're right. I had thought for years that F-35s had the same UV-based MAWS that helos were using. It doesn't. F-35 uses DAS as its sole missile detection and tracking system. Which, of course, is IIR (some may recall the infamous test flight where DAS locked onto a Falcon 9 launch many years ago).

Helos, meanwhile, use UV-based MAWS and the Mudhen's EPAWSS appears to be passive RF only.

IF this footage is legitimate, it does raise the question of why the F-35 did not appear to react to the missile. Personally, I'm still a bit skeptical; there are a few things that seem rather odd, such as the AB plume being the same brightness as the rest of the plane, and yet the explosion clearly washes out the fighter's leading edges. I would also wonder why the F-35 was flying low enough for a low-level SAM (in the same vein as Rapier or Crotale) to engage it. I would also note that the CENTCOM report (which came out well before the IRGC claim) was a little odd, and almost sounded like the pilot had a medical emergency rather than combat damage.

>>64999139
Ayatollah status?
Venezuela status?

Also thank you brownoid for being morons and firing at Diego Garcia. Now we have all the euros willing to help.

>>64999151
Their missile range will quadruple in two weeks

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>>64999153
Change the propaganda moshe

>>64999165
No one is claiming jews aren't brown
>Tldr you're a brown jew
Still not and you're still brown btw

>>64999167
>Destroy multiple american planes, even the stealth wunderwaffe, and arent relenting.
may we see it?

>>64999196
post hand and gun

Anti western propagandists must not be familiar with the story of the boy who cried wolf

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>>64999151
>she thinks missiles have an intrinsic range

>the same video posted
>again

>>64999208
So no we can’t see it? Tard

>>64999202
you have to post your hand and gun first, or else you'll get ignored

>>64999257
not how it works my swarthy friend.

>another ai and cope thread
I wonder what they'll generate tomorrow, maybe air force one being shot down

>>64999011
obvious bs considering the overrepresentation of jews in academic fields since they were allowed to partake

>>64999057
and yet it doesn't stop people from filming them. which is why there's always footage when there's an attack

>>64999208
>bragging about friendly fire
>putting a webm of a failure
>dozens of male uavs only shotdown in a week
>fire in a localized compartment
embarrassing

>>64999317
oops meant in 3 weeks

>>64999119
...yes?
Turdies really don't understand LOAC huh

>>64999107
>no argument
Lmao

>>64999093
Define "assassination"?
You can't.
But the original EO referred to killing someone by deception in peacetime, which is prohibited for the military by Hague Convention IV anyway.
To interpret "assassination" as not being able to bomb leadership targets in wartime is patently ridiculous.
>we're not at war
We are
>no declaration of war
War doesn't actually need a formal declaration of war, and you can count on two hands the total number of times a formal declaration of war was made, out of all the wars in human history since 1945

>>64997340
Go watch David Zhangs recent video on that Professor chink guy.
A lot of it isnt even shills, the reality is these people just want to see the west get destroyed so much they legitimately interpet anything that happens as a sign of the end.
>planes get shot by ally
The west is dead!
>one f-35 gets hit
Lmao not so invincible, the west is dead!
>israel gets hit with missiles that are mostly doing jack shit of actual effect
The west, dead!
>sparse militias are still firing rockets after a nation has 90% of its prime leadership and military obliterated
See I told you, the west is dead!

They're dumb. At this point we insult ourselves when calling them shills.
They're just dumb, hateful people.

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>>65000134
>A lot of it isnt even shills, the reality is these people just want to see the west get destroyed so much they legitimately interpet anything that happens as a sign of the end
this

modern Americans and Europeans are coddled and pampered and have no idea how viciously the world envies and hates them for no other reason other than that they want to invade you, subjugate you, and take all that you have for themselves, and they will not hesitate to lie and lie and lie on every point imaginable (and many beyond Western imagining) to bring that about
deliberately misinterpreting everything in order to continue gibbering YOU ARE LOSING YOU ARE LOSING YOU LOSING LOSERS millions of posts a day into the void is just a small part of this.

from my (third-world) perspective it's would be almost comical if it weren't so sad to see leftist Western foreign policy of blundering about trying to please thirdies, offering goodies to try and get them to cooperate, and then thinking "we must not have enticed them enough" when the dogs grab the food and continue biting the hand that feeds, not realising: that's the nature of this particular ornery fucking dog.

so my advice is: get used to being hated. have the backbone to stand your ground nonetheless and the moral fibre to keep your own principles. don't pander to populism, it's a lost game.
blow up the fucking Iranians and anyone else who gets in the way and when the turdies scream "warcrime" tell them it's far more humane than they would have done themselves, so quit being hypocrites.

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>>65000134
I come it from a different, very simple angle: US resources are not infinite.

As such they must be expended to extract the best strategic outcome possible. Continued failure to achieve or even assess such outcomes by US leadership gives me low confidence of current or future use of military force. Contrasting that is a news-cycle induced sugar rush of the opposite to what you're describing:
>we hit 5000 targets in 3 days
>be had B2s and MOPs destroy their nuclear facilities
>we killed the Ayatollah. Not once but twice lmao

Okay, and? Do i get a free lifetime supply of iranian oil now? A free handjob from the japanese thanking me for the higher oil prices they wanted to pay?

If I'm this imperialistic white devil that thrives on the blood of thirdies, then why am I so shit at exploiting them? If the power of slavery and colonialism runs through my veins, how is it that since 1979 it's a non-stop cycle of fighting iran, then having to fight iran's enemies and then fighting iran again?

>>65005063
>why no thread about thing that didn't happen

>>65005098
>I saw a claim on another website and now I came here and made the same claim so now both claims have corroboration

>>64999011
>>64999309
Jews are just slightly higher IQ jeets. Which is to say that they are good at lying and scamming at a better rate than jeets. This is why you see studies talking about how great they are vs everyone else, it's literally self fellating Jewish studies lol
>>64997190
Pretty sure Israel has already lost a couple jets and the ones struck from the US we are being super dicey on their condition to the extent that id say they were as good as shot down regardless of the pilot making it back or not. US#1 shills will hate to hear this since they don't like to hear that any western equipment isn't perfect but that's the way it seems. There are coverup campaigns on both the US and Israeli side of things regarding the conflict. We will just have to wait and see

>>65005063
There was one, it hit 500 something replies

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>>65005167
>Which is to say that they are good at lying and scamming at a better rate than jeets
this is cope. a jew's name is synonymous with genius and for a good reason

>>64999143
Millimeter wave radar is the best missile approach warner, it's basically impossible to jam, it gives you basically perfect precision of the missiles position and velocity, hell you can even SAR pretty easy and get a shape/size for classification.
Some thing that it gives away your position, that's not really true.
On this frequency band, moisture in the air is a massive dampener, and it eats up the energy rapidly.
That's why it's only used for close in applications like this and it's the gold standard for missile approach warners and active protection systems and such.
It could be a home-on source for the missile, but by the time it's close enough basically any sensor will do to do terminal guidance so w/e.

>>65005266
>posts a known intellectual thief
lmao

>>65005098
so no proof whatsoever of an F-35 ever being hit by the Iranians?

>>65005121
>cope, how'd that pilot get shrapnel injuries?
And the source for this? Let me guess, another claim.

>>65005098
>i saw a comment on another website
Well shit, that's the gold standard for evidence right there

>>65005288
Millimeter wave radar has issues with range and coverage.
https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/04.battle/karte052.en.html
See this radar can't even cover full sphere only 30 degrees high panorama. About 1/4 of full sphere.

>>65005291
crazy how retards who didn't make it past high school physics have takes on shit beyond their pay grade. calm down, buddy. it's above you

>>65006924
What do you think Einstein got up to at the patent office?

>>65006942
it doesn't matter. his greatest work (general relativity) wasn't at the patent office. he had a great run while he was there though

>>64997226
>how many sorties did Israel run into Iran, how many have the US run into Iran.
Afaik Israelade more sorties than the US, at least they "attacked more targets".

>>65006712
>1200 MHz
That's not mmWave.

>>65006942
>scientific papers get patented
nigga wat?

>>65007037
lol. that's so retarded i didn't even know that's what he was impkying

>>65001170
What the fuck are you trying to say schizobot

>>64997190
Theres a lot of shit flying around might not have been aimed at the f15

>>64997190
F-15 is peak aviation, SR-71 distant second

>>65009310
Exactly what is says. Thirdie retards are having a conversation about how much equipment they can destroy and frame that as "winning".

Western retards are getting high on "look at all this shit we destroyed, we are dominating the shit out of them" and framing that as winning.

Both of those frameworks are retarded. One side is ignoring they are losing a lot equipment, leadership not to mention the coming braindrain, refugees and humanitarian problems they'll face. But hey remember that radar we took out? Good times.

The other side has expended a lot of munitions and money and is ignoring higher gas prices, anger among all allies from Europe (who cares) to Asia (very important) and done damage to their own economy and the entire world.

And the picture is supposed to represent america getting rich by having the Iranians work the saffron plantations as slaves. Which as far as I can tell is the only upside that could be exploited.

so it is the future everyone. have we lost one or more yet?

We haven't even lost one yet to enemy fire, which by itself is impressive with a week of war and thousands of flights. At most they damaged one f-35 which still flew home, and they damaged a f-18 that still flew with minimal damage. Honestly was expecting more planes lost by now, but it looks like fucking friendly fire and collisions did more than the entire Iranian military

>>65012582
*month of war