I said some months ago about using thermal IIR stuff to track planes from the ground in a passive way, and everyone here said it was bad because radar has more range.But sead is useless against thermals since it has no emissions, and can see stealth planes all the sameNow how can iran connect s300 missiles to their thermal cameras?
>>64997616It's bad because of clouds, if you are in the ME and get 3 clouds a year it can work.
>>64997632>It's bad because of cloudsThere will come a time where enough money is spent on IRST that they become capable of tracking shit as small as an apple from 10km away. But its the US that needs to do it. Everyone else just copies from lockheed or raytheon
>>64997616>Now how can iran connect s300 missiles to their thermal cameras?>>64997616>Now how can iran connect s300 missiles to their thermal cameras?They can't. Or rather, they could, but using command guidance reintroduces the problem of electronic countermeasures and makes the launcher vulnerable to detection and destruction, so it wouldn't fix anything. The whole reason why the Majid system works at all is because it's entirely EM-passive.
>>64997616The Soviets used a lot of electro-optical/IR systems. Sometimes it is good and sometimes it is useless.
>>64998342Just lay down a lot of fiber optic relays so you can transmit far away without revealing your location.
>>64999146>gooning on 9gagThis is a new low I was not aware possible.
>>64997616>>64998342What about basically TOW missiles as AA weapons? As in comnect miles of fiberoptic cable to the missile and use that to transmit midcourse updates? If a shitty little quadcopter can carry 10km of fiber optics then a big missile should be able to carry more.Maybe even stage the missile so it drops the fiber optics when it's close enough for a second stage burn with it's own seeker?Will obviously never achieve the same total range but I'd just keep a mixed loadout as a surprise in the tube.
>>65000325Because drones go very slow and gentle compared to a missile and they need to go even gentler not to snap or tangle fiber optc wires, which also need to be extremely light and thin to go that long. Wire guided missiles use TWO copper wires and they still risk snapping them under certain conditions. If they need to be SAMs then they're gonna be accelerating too violent for any kind of wire.
>>64997616>sead is uselessNo, it isn’t, IR ground weapons with this amount of range have been around for ages anon.IR tracking is hard limited by atmospheric absorbtion, in most circumstances 20 kilometers is about the best you’re gonna get generally, with massive fluctuations up or down based on wheather.>>64997672It’s IR radiation anon, there are hard physical limits.
>>64997616>>64998342>Now how can iran connect s300 missiles to their thermal cameras?>They can't. Or rather, they could,Most Soveit/Russian SAMs have optical tracking system (visible range camera) and command guidance regime (LOS guidance method). S-300 has. First S-300 missiles only had command guidance.Only exception is a SA-11/17 with SAH guidance.
>>64997616>s300They'd eaten all the shit and then they died, in Syria. It's 70s tech and it's not wine. >but the crew!!They're the same Arabs.
>>64997616If you can only engage enemy aircraft in visual range, bad news, your AD network has failed.
>>65000598The IRST PIRATE on the euro fighter can track subsonic planes at 100km of range > The RAND Corporation reports ranges of 50 nm (93 km) to a subsonic target from the front and up to 90 nm (167 km) from the rear of a subsonic targetAt this range just refit meteors since radar becomes a meme for plane carried missiles
>>65000656The s300 missile is clearly fatter and longer range than that used by whatever AA the iranians were using,The missile is the one they should refit to IR.>>65000768Just move your sensors closer to the border and hide them inside a shack or camo them, no emissions means they re gonna be fine all the same
