>>65002373
With the J-20's designer getting axed recently, I'd like to think the J-36/J-50 designers will take their time and NOT lie about the project status just to save face, but something tells me that wont be the case...

>>65002373
>It looks like a flying pile of dog shit on radar
A flying what?

>>65002373
>We have 3 engines
>2 are for taking off
>The other one is a hyper efficent ramjet that allows us to flay at Mach 2X!
>Please ignore the photo that shows the plane needing 3 engines to take off!
>Our engines are good!
>Please Ignore that the J-20 designer was killed because the plane doesn't fly good
>Please ignore the engine problems of the J-20
>CHINA NUMBAH 1!!!!!!!!!!!

>>65002403
you do realised that you sound like an utterly butthurt whiny kid with some severe inferiority complex when you post this sort of shit?

Seriously. It sounds pathetic.
whatever happened to "talk softly and carry a big stick", that made assholes have to loudly brag and bleat every time instead?

>>65002403
can't we just be happy something weird looking just got oof the ground?

>>65002426
Bing Bong Ching Chong China numba 1!

>>65002499
really doesnt help you portray yourself as a rational adult when the slightest criticism of your person is met with screaming "Waaa, you're chinese/jewish/muslim/insert-whatever-nation-here" as a retort.

Grow up.

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>>65002373 that jet seems about as relevant as the white emperor jet.

>>65002426
Watching the dawning realization that Emperor Xi has no clothes when you've been waving your tiny dicks around for years with passive aggressive bullshit and full blown melties when you get called out on it will never stop being funny. This is the shartmata all over again.

>>65002384
>With the J-20's designer getting axed recently,
Cool story, bro.

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>>65002510
World was not ready for J-60 Ultimate Supreme Hyperdragon of The Three Heavens.

>>65002528
You're right, he's been scrubbed from every state media source just cause it's funny to make the interns sweat doing busy work.

>>65002426
You are very noticeable, Chinese Armatard.

I like Doritos.

>>65002426
hahahahahhaa

>>65002510
Ah Res! Binga bonga Chinga chonga China is a numba onea!

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>>65002426
>>65002510

yeah.

>>65002403
>>2 are for taking off
>>The other one is a hyper efficent ramjet that allows us to flay at Mach 2X!
the only people that ever said that were retards on here who obviously didn't know what they were talking about
China has said literally nothing about this aircraft

>>65002829
there's a coinflip chance you aren't white

>>65002841
>China has said literally nothing about this aircraft
The silence speaks volumes, yes?

>>65002829
Chinese is a race? I thought they were monoliods.

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>>65002426
NI HAOOO

>>65002384
>With the J-20's designer getting axed recently
Qrd?
>>65002524
>Stealth
>Visible turbines
Lol. Lmao.

>>65002426
Why are you so butthurt, chinkshill?

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>>65002426
Vely impleassive, vely ching khu lung

>>65002373
It's still in prototype phase, isn't it? Not much to talk about.

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>>65002993
>Qrd?

>>65003019
I should have been more specific.

Why?

>>65003028
Something something corruption that brings great shame to the CCP or something idk exactly. No idea if he actually did get axed but his name has been removed from the program.

>>65003028
Most people seem to think it was because he lied about J-20 capabilities, or status in development/timeline to enter service or stole a bunch of money from the J-20 contract money,

Or a mix of all of the above.


Rumors persist about stealth coating not being testing in all conditions of flight before getting approved for production, and some issues regarding the IWB doors not being able to seal again after being opened at supersonic speeds.

>>65003035
So it's not because the plane is fucked or anything? Just corruption?

>>65003049
Shiet man, you should've asked the Turks, they developed the coating for the F-35.
Also RIP to the doors, do they deform at super sonic speeds or is it a force issue? If it's the latter you guys need pressure outlets on the aft side of the bay because you're ramming so much air into the bays that it overpowers the hydraulics at super sonic speeds.

>>65003028
reportedly a J-20 exploded in testing and Xi saw it and ordered an investigation. also that they were lying to him about it's performance and how far along it was in development.

>>65003061
>Shiet man, you should've asked the Turks, they developed the coating for the F-35.
what

>>65003053
We have no idea. All anyone ever gets busted for in China is corruption. Could be he scuffed the wrong guy’s shoes, could be he robbed the program blind while not delivering promised specs. Nobody here will ever know for sure.

>>65003071
:^)
>>65003068
Why the fuck would they lie to Xi of all people? He's an engineer not a lawyer, if they tell him something's fucked he'll make sure it gets unfucked.
>>65003075
Probably. But wasn't the J-20 a stopgap anyways?

>>65003028
They were testing their "anti-stealth" radars against the J-20 for development purposes. There was an investigation after they didn't work in Venezuela or Iran, and it turns out the J-20 isn't actually stealth. The radar designers got gulaged as well.

>>65003087
>Why the fuck would they lie to Xi of all people?
I don't know, face saving? chinks are weird like that, they can never admit that they're wrong or failed at something.

>>65003094
>radar team charged with making radar capable of detecting stealth aircraft
>"hey let's test it against out j20 since that's stealth, right?"
>detects it
>"woo yeah! We did it!"
>gets shitcanned because j20 isn't stealth and your team didn't know any better
Wonder if this happened

>>65003087
They’ve built 3-400 that we know of and have expanded production floor space to a degree that would support over 100 airframes a year recently, so no it’s pretty much their mainline and will continue to be for quite a while. They’ve also recently shown off new variants suggesting they don’t intend on stopping work on them any time soon.

>>65003094
Well RIP. But who would've thought that using both fucking CANARDS AND fucking VERTICAL STABILIZERS in the SAME fucking PLANE would make a plane visible as fuck.
Also the angles of the trailing edge of the canards seem to fuck with the leading edge of the wings in terms of reflectivity, they should check those again.
Reduced visibility doesn't mean invisible to radar.
>The radar designers got gulaged as well
RIP.
>>65003105
Chinks, eh
>>65003116
Shit. And they didn't think to get some russian radars to cross-check the radar observibility?

God damn, that's a massive screw up.

>>65002426
Konichiwa dude!!!!

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>>65003124
>And they didn't think to get some russian radars to cross-check the radar observibility?

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>>65002373
*blocks your path*

>>65003299
If it appears on russian radar you know it's utter shit.

Don't tell me they couldn't get their hands on one.

>>65002426
>you do realised that you sound like an utterly butthurt whiny kid with some severe inferiority complex when you post this sort of shit?
yeah because he's roleplaying a chink and that's what they're like, obviously

>>65003124
>>65003311
China operates S-300 and S-400, so clearly they could have (and almost certainly did) test against them. The problem is that the J-20's stealth is probably optimized against these systems, which means they're at least somewhat stealthy in the X and S bands. However, they probably didn't bother to consider its radar return across the entire spectrum, which is why they're easy to detect on VHF-band radar like the JY-27A.

So the J-20 designers claimed they made a plane as stealthy as an F-22 because it was effectively invisible to S-300 and S-400, and then the JY-27 designers claimed they could track an F-22 from absurdly long ranges because they could track a J-20 that they were told was as stealthy as an F-22.

>>65002426
laughing at you rn from the island country you still can't have

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>>65003390
>(Lack of) basic communication kills the commie
Tragic but common

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>>65003299
>>65003302
I don't think Russian AAA radar below 1000 meters exists in any functional capacity much less 25,000 meters.

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>>65002373
I like it for being unique. A triple engine configuration has not been seen since WWII. The splitting flaperons are cool too.

>>65003449
Triple engine is retard no matter how hard you spin it.
>too heavy.
>guzzling oil like whore.
The only way to justified triple engine configuration is if the jet is big. Like almost b-1B big.

>>65003785
anyone ever told you you're no fun

Its a bloated fighter-bomber design that would get relegated to bomb dropping duties in any western country. Only positive is that because its big it should be able to carry a decent payload.

>>65002384
I hope they lie tenfold.

>>65002524
Zamn, AC 8's looking great

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>>65003881
>AC 8's looking great
That is unironically closer to the truth than any western sources reported at the time.

It's from a sci-fi series that an MIC aviation company sponsored to generate interest in the aerospace industry.
That worked, the series was very big in China and interest was generated.

At some show, the aerospace company exhibited a mockup of the air/space fighter from the series. Chinese recognised it as fictional, it would be like if Northrop Grumman exhibited picrel at their stand in an arms show and then Chinese media talked about how US was trying to claim they had a robotech fighter.

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>>65002373
The movie prop for Top Gun Maverick is better looking

>>65003920
Wait up, the macross vf-1 is a mega ultra space tomcat?

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>>65004160
>Wait up, the macross vf-1 is a mega ultra space tomcat?
Always has been.

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>>65004160
Roy Fokker's livery was clearly inspired by picrel
Now and then you see pics of an F-14 in UN Spacey livery, F-14s were in service until 2006 so there's a few decades where air crews might want to larp as robotech pilots or something.

>>65004258
gay

>>65004819
Everything about the F-14 has always been extremely gay, especially the pilots.

>>65003094
>J-20 in Venezuela or Iran
stop watching The Enforcer

>>65005144
>stop watching The Enforcer
>An enforcer has to sacrifice everything to save a young girl he has befriended from his femme fatale boss who is involved in cybersex trafficking.
Good lord the action slop is bad these days.
I suppose it can't be any more morally contrived than the Clint Eastwood version but isn't Antonio Banderas like 70 now?

btw: anon was obviously talking about the radar being in Venezuela and Iran, you're bad at English

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>>65002566
>State media
He's gone from everything. The college he went to? Any mention of his name removed. His social media? Gone. Bro is deceased.

>>65002426
Nice projection. How much did the US brag about lasers before we deployed them in Venezuela? We introduce our shit quietly when it's ready and deny it and downplay it as much as we can. In the Vile Land of the Bat-Eaters as soon as one scientist has an idea the CCP claims it has 50000000 of them and they're all ready to be used on America's major cities. Here's a video of your office.

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>>65002863
Her first time seeing one over 3"

>>65003087
If you tell King Chink something he doesn't like, he kills you. Welcome to communist countries.
>B-but it wasn't real communism since we didn't get a pony and total wealth redistribution
Preemptively saying this, yeah, communism is a scam literally every time.

>>65003302
Kim should just conquer Xi. Just do it.

>>65003390
S-300 and S-400 not stopping something is so meaningless it's not worth testing against. My fat, racist uncle ass could dodge detection by one of those things.

>>65005245
One fat, racist American uncle could take over all of China. What would tiny, submissive Asians used to bowing to tourists do?

>>65005144
I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Don't worry, I spelled out exactly what happened here: >>65003390

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>>65005313
>This almost never happens in China
Okay Hasan Piker, go collect your check from the authoritarian governments you simp for.

>>65003785
This, it suggests they just do not have the thrust needed if they need 3 engines since that reduces range, increases thermal heat and costs more in maintenance per engine. it's a crutch not a flex. There's a reason the F-35 does fine with one bigboy engine in it, because that singular engine produces more thrust than a mig 29's two engines and about the same as a super hornet's two. They can claim whatever specs they want on paper but in practice it appears all but a crutch.

As for this J-50 thing in general it along with the J-36 in retrospect clearly need to exist if the J-20 is an utter disaster much worse than any anti-hype about the F-35 ever was and internally they know it and need something that actually is at least 5th gen or better.

>>65005313
Kill yourself. You don't own a gun so ingesting bleach is your best bet.

>>65005604
It's not bullshit though lmao

>one guy last thread said something that was wrong, so obviously everything ever said about this topic is 100% wrong

You just sound like a chink trying to downplay this shit by pointing out ONE mistake somehow means it's all fake.

>>65002426
I had to deal with chinks in my favorite fandoms. They are like locust, like screaming twitter childrens, but with actual persuading power.
You don't discuss with them, you don't' argue with them, you don't try to convince them, all that it pointless. You"rot them out to the last or the thing you like will end under their little yellow hands

>>65005313
>Killing dissidents and enemies is what you do if you can't control them, it's a forced move by weak rulers.
You'd stand a fair chance of going to a gulag for insulting Mao like that in the country you simp for, so here's your threadly reminder that the Chinese Communist Party is directly responsible for more deaths than any other organization in human history. Now back to /leftypol/ with you.

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>>65005637
>it never happened
>they deserved it
>it will happen again
Arguing with you religious fundamentalists is a waste of time, so I'm just going to mockingly point out that communist dictatorships have the same relationship with their populace that a wife beater has with his woman. Now go back to /pol/, /leftypol/, or whichever other shithole your crawled out of and tell them about how hard you owned the oldthinkers who unbellyfeel chinksoc on /k/.

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>>65005667
That's right. Communist China never killed any of their citizens. +80000000 Social Credits

>>65005791
>Spamming f5 to please his masters
Even if you were mailed their bones, you're paid to shill. Last you. Wumaos are so easy to rile up

>>65005844
Hey man, cool it with the antisemitism

>>65002403
>>2 are for taking off
>>The other one is a hyper efficent ramjet that allows us to flay at Mach 2X!
Is this what China actually said? Or more dumbass hyperbolic strawman shit

>>65005233
>If you tell King Chink something he doesn't like, he kills you.
Hmm. I was under the impression that Xi would be more reasonable unlike soviet communism
>Welcome to communist countries.
>>B-but it wasn't real communism since we didn't get a pony and total wealth redistribution
>Preemptively saying this, yeah, communism is a scam literally every time.
Don't need to tell me Fren, my ancestors were genocided by the pig fucker stalin. We're basically at the brink of extinction, my generation being one of the last.

>>65006005
No, just what our resident retarded chinkshill spammer says.

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>>65006028
He's going to end like this if he doesn't chink shill 24/7

>>65005604
What kind of ESL chinkbabble is this?

>>65005635
Ironic, those who call Americans bootlickers for defending our borders are so quick to swallow the CCP's boot without chewing.

>>65005637
Even your deflection is "we can trust the CCP to be honest :)" No, we can't. Die choking on an infected pangolin.

>>65005660
Chinkshill, why would a communist government not execute a significant fraction of their population for wrongthink? It is part for the course for collectivist retards who can't build a proper navy.

>>65005844
Yeah I'm sure the CCP definitely preserved the bodies. Definitely.

>>65005667
What do the jews have to do with this, hapanda?

>>65006027
The Chinese have even less of a soul than the Russians and an even longer tradition of glorified submission to authority, Confucianism is based on it.

>>65005313
Nah hes got a point, chicoms are really into gaining control over people hence the foreign police offices, dissolving Hong Kongs culture, wumao etc. If they cant use someone like a tibetan or Uyghur dissident, they have 0 problem cutting them up for organs. Look at what they did to Jack Ma, any other authoritarian government would have staged a suicide or executed him after a sham trial. They opted to brutalize him until they could rely on him to sing the party line on command.

>>65005604
I thought wumao was a meme. Sorry friend I only digest jewish propaganda, yours has no power here. The lead designer has been erased and while you and your gutter oil friends can pretend like he never existed, we all really know what happened.

>>65006853
What happened?

>>65006866
The J-20's lead designer was arrested for treason, and it looks like it's because they wildly misled military leadership about the capabilities of the aircraft. He was later found dead. The people behind China's recent anti-stealth radar systems, which have successfully detected F-35s by suddenly exploding in their vicinity, have been dealt with in the same manner.

>>65006884
Source?

>>65006894
Panda Express fortune cookie I ate in my dream

>>65005616
took me five mins to realise his name was also on the other dudes news zhao xiangeng that he got removed because of the type 041 blunder (which he was part of) and not about the bullshit radar story he wasnt even part of the team to begin with

so good luck with that

>>65007027
We're talking about the J-20

>>65006884
Yup. Chinks are seething and trying to cope while America rawdogs their last remaining ally to get even more control over China's oil, and it sinks in that Taiwan will forever be free.

>>65008647
yeah its from the same article

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>>65008756
Yeah the J-20 designer was purged and killed.

>>65008765
>>65008768
>When America controls your oil you win
Uh oh chinky looks like Taiwan is out of reach for you

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>chinky's posts are getting deleted
No blue water navy, no posty, chinky winky!

>>65008780
I understand trying to make something water tight, fucking up and finding out after the fact. How the fuck do you fail to make it light-tight and think "yeah that's sea worthy"? The second you see that shit during a tour you would know it's not up to spec. How does this happen?

>>65008797
Why would you see a hatch on a ship that is going to have waves crashing against it and go "yeah it should open onwards?" For me that's the real problem, it's such a blatant engineering fuckup that would have to get rubber-stamped by so many people along the line.

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>>65003920
you know it would have been hilarious if it turned into a MiG-25 -> F-15 situation

>>65008775
>Yeah the J-20 designer was purged and killed.
yeah no he wasnt

>>65008894
Post proof that he wasn't

>>65002426
implessive

>>65008913
how exactly am i gonna find proof that he didnt die since its a lie moron?

>>65002863
she turned her life around, why wont' you drop it?

>>65002403
>flay at Mach 2X
ngl getting my skin ripped off at twice the speed of sound sounds horrifying

>>65009003
Post a proof that it's a lie

Crazy how no one showed me the 100 million

>>65009531
>Nobody could actually look at Iran and even entertain the idea that in week 4 of defending Taiwan the US could drop jdams on Chang's ferrys.
Why not? It's not like China has better air defenses than Iran had. Does China even have non-emitting SAMs like the one Iran may have used to damage an F-35?

>>65009531
>Nobody could actually look at Iran and even entertain the idea that in week 4 of defending Taiwan the US could drop jdams on Chang's ferrys.
Nobody would look at how we totally and absolutely bodied a country that has been preparing for this for 40 years with zero aircraft losses and think we couldnt go toe-to-toe with China?

Fuck outta here chang.

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>seething at my wife again
fuck off
go fly the f-47 or smth

>>65010405
>s-seething at my wife
Nobody wives that bodykit lol

The trijet makes me think the engines they really want for this one just aren't ready/reliable enough for its role yet.

Size and config makes me think it's an attempt to make a stealthy equivalent of an SU-34, so...antishipping/penetration bomber-fighter?

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>>65010537
Cope. My wife's big n beautiful

>>65008879
>you know it would have been hilarious if it turned into a MiG-25 -> F-15 situation
If it inspired the Valkyrie project, I wouldn't be at all mad.

>>65009236
>Post a proof that it's a lie
How about you post proof that he's dead?
All you've got is that he's been unpersoned but modern China has a track record of putting bad people in administrative detention for years until they've learnt their lesson, even if it's only to serve as an example to others.
They rarely outright murder people, the only time I can recall it happening in modern times is the CIA spies that were rolled up in that network communication blunder a decade or two ago.
And there was plenty of evidence that those people died because that was the point.
Judicial executions aren't that fast (mandatory supreme court review FYI) and aren't concealed.

If China hasn't announced an execution, there's no reason to believe that they did and you've presented no reason to believe that they did.
The fact that you're insisting on proof of life shows that you can't find any evidence of it either.

>>65009531
>Noone could actually forget america pushing the Russians into the arms of the Chinese, right?
And after four years of self-destruction in Ukraine, nobody fears Russian assistance to China either.
The Russia situation is being handled and currently being done by European money and Ukrainian blood, the USA is free of that obligation and free to focus on China.

>Nobody could actually look at Iran and even entertain the idea that in week 4 of defending Taiwan the US could drop jdams on Chang's ferrys.
That's exactly the idea that I hold after watching the US drop jdams with impunity on a military operating Chinese air defences.

>>65010668
>They rarely outright murder people
What are you talking about?

They just get disappeared never to be seen again. Makes you guess if they're actually dead or just in a prison camp somewhere, the ambiguity is the point.

You're basically trying to argue if you didn't get to see a public execution then he's probably "just" living in a prison labor camp for the next decade+.

>>65010679
yes they live very isolated most of them after such events simply because their social credit goes so low that they cant even use trains to transport or planes or even buses for day to day shit

>>65010679
>They just get disappeared never to be seen again
No they don't.
They do get seen again, eventually.
That's the point.

Executions and murder (for political crimes) are quite rare and when it's for corruption, they make a public spectacle out of it for obvious reasons.
You're saying he's dead out of some political vibe you like but you've zero proof and your constant insistence that "it must have happened" is just an admission that you have zero proof.

>>65009531
>Nobody could actually look at Iran and even entertain the idea that in week 4 of defending Taiwan the US could drop jdams on Chang's ferrys.
lmao I'm from the CPU island and in the recent years we had a lot of doubts about the US being able to intervene against China, it was quietly talked about. Nowadays everyone is pretty confident that you'll be the next USSR

>>65003302
Ought to take half the wings off that, eh?

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>>65010668
Chinky having a melty

>>65010999
Your jingoism is /pol/-tier, grow up.
Claiming shit without sources is what shills do, are you false-flagging or just an idiot?
I suppose our side (the west) has idiots too.

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>>65004381
I know this would be so expensive to make one demo model, and have no use...
but we could do it. Make one real one that does this, just to fuck with thirdies. Claim ALL F-35 do it. Invent a "G" variant out of our ass with no designation continuity.

>>65002403
The real question is why the Chinks claimed that the engine was some king of "go fast" engine rather than a testbed of a some kind of high efficiency engine for low and slow stealth operation like the entire airframe would suggest. That at least would make sense and have a real application.

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>>65011008

>>65010668
>If China hasnt said it, it isnt true
Wew

>>65003108
>list of CIA operatives leaks
>purge all of them
>totally, sure every last one
>gottem
>gg
>no re
>somebody makes the j-20 a "stearth" jet
>radar team develops radar to detect J-20
>it works!
>since the J-20 is classified as 1000 year jade dragon levels of stealth your radar must be the bee's knees!
>Gwailo gets uppity and threatens your oil in Venezuela
>send radar to neuter America's biggest asset
>oh no
>UH OH
>no no no!
>UH OH!
>emperor vely dispreased
>*GOOOOOONG* bada bada bum bum, bum ba ba

>>65003108
>>65011110
This is dumb. You can quite literally detect an F-22 with a WWII radar

>>65011117
Damn! Ww2 radars are better than Chinese ones? Amazing. Wow!

>>65011130
Maybe. Who knows.

>>65011085
>>65011102
please gb2/pol/
We have adults on this board.

>>65011163
Stop crying chinkshill

>>65011117
At 500 km like China claims their JY-27 can track an F-22?

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>>65011163
Chyyyynaaa suppapowah

>>65011167
>Stop crying chinkshill
Yes yes, tears are running down my face.

Now how about we have a sensible discussion about Chinese technology without you being all
>emperor vely dispreased
and
>Vely impleassive, vely ching khu lung

You're contributing nothing to this thread and are clearly not here for any reason other than to shit up threads that mention China. You're just an anti-China Shill that's as bad as rapechink and chinkshill.
Please return to whence you came.

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>>65011190
Impleassive!

>>65011190
You are chinkshill lol, you rant just like him

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>>65011190
>Vely impleassive, vely ching khu lung
The chink shill finally learned the phrase I use to make fun of him. I'm a proud papa

>>65011208
>>65011212
grow up you juvenile idiots, /k/ is not for jingoism, it's for discussion about weapons and military equipment and tactics.

>>65011246
Most implessive

>>65010705
Luckily, what pacific islanders “think” hasn’t mattered in modern history. You will be subservient to whomever owns the seas around you, which is the Us navy for the foreseeable future

>>65002863
never noticed how JUSTed she already was

>>65002841
>the only people that ever said that were retards on here who obviously didn't know what they were talking about
First of all, his name is chinkshill.

>>65011117
>"the J-20 is as stealthy as the F-22!"
>turns out that isn't true
>"actually, stealth isn't real"
The /k/ screenwriters are straight up recycling the Su-57 script.

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>>65011246
Vely impleassive!

>>65011182
According to the wiki JY-27 is an early warning radar with a maximum detection range of 500km. Nowhere it says it can track X thing at X distance.
>>65011365
>in talks to buy them
Crazy shit if you stop to think about it.

>>65005554
>Hasan Piker
The fact that piece of shit hasn't caught a bullet with his face while Charlie got murdered is an atrocity.

>>65005554
BASED as FUCK

>>65011377
All the way back in 2016 when the JY-27A was unveiled, chang was claiming that it could detect an F-22 at 500 km.

>>65011682
>All the way back in 2016 when the JY-27A was unveiled, chang was claiming that it could detect an F-22 at 500 km.
When you say Chang, do you mean the Chinese Ministry of Defence or do you mean some random chink on the internet?
If it's the former, can you provide a source?

>>65011552
Charlie Kirk? lol more like Charlie Jerk! HEYOOOOOOOOOO!

>>65011246
if that is the case, then chinkshills should not have poisoned the well for like 8 years at this point with every china related thread being turned into a samefagging pro-china-shilling shitfest.
any amount of good will for that kind of discussion is gone, i really can't fault people for defaulting to implessive memes when every single time it's been given a chance, pro-chinese bunkertrannies have tried to hijack the conversation.

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>>65011696
I cant provide provide a source that your slanted asian rape baby eyes can read. I know your secret police officer is looking at your screen too.

>>65011696
Source is "unnamed Chinese military official," which is how most of China's military capabilities are reported so they can conveniently forget about their absurd claims later on when they're exposed as pure fantasy. Lots of outlets reported on it at the time, ask Grok to find you one.

>>65011742
>then chinkshills should not have poisoned the well for like 8 years at this point with every china related thread being turned into a samefagging pro-china-shilling shitfest
If you can't tell /k/ regulars wanting to discuss Chinese weapons from actual shills then you don't belong on this board anyway.

>any amount of good will for that kind of discussion is gone
You're not owed good will, you do owe the board to stay on topic though.
If a chinkshill is shilling, we can tell and we say so but when you just implessive post objective discussion then you're shitting up the board and have become the shitposter.

As Nietzechan said
>shitpost not with shills lest ye become a shill and when you shill into the shitposts, the shitposts also shill into you

>>65011798
>Source is "unnamed Chinese military official,"
So post the fucking news source that quotes him.
Or did you just make it up?

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>>65011812
>/K/ regulars discussing chinkesoid weapons
Imao!

>>65011864
>>65011828
Are you the same /pol/tard just posting back and forth shitposts against yourself?

>>65011867
kek, not the first time we've seen /pol/tards come here to argue with the voices in their heads and it won't be the last. We need a reporting option for excessive samefagging.

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>>65011871
You ching chong too far. No social credit for you

>>65011886
>We need a reporting option for excessive samefagging
We need an option for
>/pol/ outside of /pol/

>>65011888
What a waste of digits.

>>65011886
>not the first time we've seen /pol/tards come here to argue with the voices in their heads and it won't be the last
It's straying into schizo territory so I don't take it too seriously but sometimes I think all the implessive posting is just to discourage westerners from talking about Chinese technology because it would undermine the propaganda value of it that they're counting on to instil national pride in their own population.

>>65011815
Why would I bother when you'll just immediately disregard it because it's not a signed and notarized document written by Xi Jinping himself? Like I said, it was widely reported, you'll find a dozen articles with a single Google search.

>unnamed Chinese military official
so it's made the fuck up, good to know

>>65011828
>capitalized board letter
You need to kill yourself.

>>65011913
>Like I said, it was widely reported, you'll find a dozen articles with a single Google search.
So screenshot one with the channel/paper/site name in the shot and post it.
Why am I required to provide the evidence of your post?

>>65011967
Implessive

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>>65011967
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>>65011967
>The J-36's triple engines are obviously for a thinner cross-section which improves frontal RCS, and they can go even thinner without a pilot.
I take issue with the "obviously" because poor engine performance is also a plausible explanation.
Your explanation is pretty plausible too though so I'm not saying you're wrong.

>Or is the B-2 also a piece of crap since it uses 2 engines
I've never paid much attention to the B-2 beyond watching Broken Arrow, so imagine my surprise when I see it has four engines, not two!
Clearly you haven't paid much attention to it either.
This isn't actually disproving your point above however since apparently it's using multiples of smaller engines.

The reason I looked up the specs is because of the highlighted lines.
Isn't the reason the B-2 has multiple engines because it is intended to carry 18 tonnes of ordinance/fuel to high altitude?

An aside, and I'm not at all sure of the answer, do two smaller engines have less or more fuel efficiency and/or thrust than one large engine of equal weight?
If you took a B-52 and replaced its dual engines at each pylon with one bigger one of equal fuel intake/weight, what would the result be?
If you could build arbitrarily large engines and replaced every engine in the B-52 with one fuck-huge one at the tail, what would the result be?
I really don't know because I'm not a plane autist but I know there are some in the thread so please educate me on this.

>>65011983
>Don't bother, this crowd is...
Is it a crowd?
Are we being brigaded by some /pol/ general or a discord echo chamber?
It happens pretty consistently with threads on Chinese technology.

The jannies are earning their zero cheques today though, most of the implessive posting (and some retorts, including my own) are getting deleted so the system is somewhat working.

>>65011967
It has three engines because it needs three engines. You've been BTFO on this probably hundreds of times by now; go back to spamming cuck porn on /pol/ with the rest of your discord buddies.

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>>65012013
That's right, /k/ doesn't want to discuss the vely impleassive, supah supah ching khu lung Supeliol Chynah technology

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>>65011967
Oh, come on jannie.
I expect some friendly-fire when being brigaded by /pol/ but that anon was pretty clearly on-topic and not a shitpost.

>>65012004
Each of the B-2's engines makes about 80 kN of thrust. A SINGLE GE90 engine in the 777 airliners makes about 500 kN of thrust, and it entered service 5 years after the B-2. Making thrust from a single engine isn't a problem, the size is.

The B-52 could easily be powered by 4 or maybe even 2 high-bypass turbofans (the engines you see on airliners) but was designed for 8 engines in the 50s. I can't remember off the top of my head, but there are non-aeronautic reasons as to why they haven't replaced the engines yet.

There are too many factors affecting engine performance to judge a design by size alone, but that doesn't make a nice headline

>>65011967
>American really can't figure shit without British help, they're still flying 75 year old B-57s in NASA
If it ain't broke...
I think the reason they're still using them is because they're good enough and do the job and there's a whole bunch in the boneyard that can be pulled out when required.

Why spend $30m on a new airframe to do some high altitude scientific stuff when you have airframes that can be pulled out and returned to service for $1m?

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>>65012027
/k/ mods dont want you to know the supra hyper impleassive khu lung technology that puts all da wesTerN tech nolo ga behind da gleat Chynah!

>>65009047
Doesn't matter, shit like this marks you for life.

>>65012086
I haven't watched that in forever, I should torrent it again.

>>65012004
*60ish tons of fuel and ordinance.

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>>65002373
Easy to forget that which never really existed.

>>65012132
>*60ish tons of fuel and ordinance.
I subtracted Gross Weight from MTOW, what should I have done?
Is the Fuel Capacity included in the Gross Weight?
I really don't know the definitions in play.

>>65012074
That's light roun eye. Chyna is Supeliol

>>65011812
>you are now owed good will
no, we were the ones giving out good will, retard, and that good will has dried up, nobody is interested in anything other than making fun of chinkshit now, they did this to themselves.

>>65013298
>we were the ones giving out good will
You've never done that on your time on 4chan.

>they did this to themselves
But you're doing it to everyone else.

>>65013307
>n-no
lol

>>65003087
>He's an engineer not a lawyer, if they tell him something's fucked he'll make sure it gets unfucked.
Either this is bait or you have the mind of a child.

>>65003094
>build stealth plane that isn't stealthy
>build stealth plane detecting radar that cant detect stealth
>point radar at plane
>"see, the stealth detecting radar is able to detect the stealth plane, thus proving that they both work"
genius

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>>65003920
I'm old enough to remember people insisting the US had a secret new stealth naval fighter. The photo turned out ot be a production still from an absolute dogshit movie.

>>65011117
you can detect it with any radar if it gets close enough
the important question is: can you detect it from outside the range of its weapons?

>>65013755
>The photo turned out ot be a production still from an absolute dogshit movie.
Oh yeah, I remember that too.
Quite a good analogy, almost exactly the same situation.

>>65002863
Asian women were made to service and worship white men

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>>65002373
I'm interested in this nigga with the foldable wings and wingtips canards. It's been spotted flying two or three times and then never again.

>>65014834
>this nigga with the foldable wings and wingtips canards. It's been spotted flying two or three times and then never again.
Navalised J-35 prototype?

Either they proved the concept, proved it had problems, or abandoned it for doctrinal reasons.
Either way, they don't need the prototype any more I guess.

>>65014969
ywnbaf
you will never be a fighter

>>65014969
That's some freaky looking 3d thrust vectoring nozzle, I dig it though, looks cleaner than regular nozzles.

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>>65014856
Duh, its a prototype. Just remarking it looks cool. It will be great to find out what purpose the prototype served.

>>65015227
>It will be great to find out what purpose the prototype served.
They've never had a carrier so they've never needed a navalised airframe before.
Maybe they're wondering how folding wings work and how it affects stealth?
For whatever value of stealth the J-35 has in the first place but whatever, they need to know how the hinge will affect that and how to even build hinged wings that don't fuck up the aeronautics.

>>65015328
That's the one with the flexing ailerons, right?

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>>65015320
>what is j-15

>>65008797
>not my plobrem

>>65015395
>j-15
Fair enough.
That precedes the J-35 by about three years.
Maybe the prototype was about J-15enising the J-35 then?
The question of hinges and stealth remains something you'd want to test though and you'd probably need to test hinged wings on every airframe anyway.

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>>65015502
afaik the original j-15 is like 13 years old
the j-15t is much newer and adapted to the electromagnetic catapult on one of their carriers
also the j-35 has foldable wings

>>65015395
>>65015502
Worth keeping in mind that the J-15 is adapted from the Su-33, the official attempt to buy them from Russia fell apart but they got access to a prototype through Ukraine.
Verifying you copied their homework right and whole cloth designing something of your own with shared principles are different levels of capacity for your aerospace industry.

>>65002384
all ching chong technology is chinesium trash garbage

>>65016846
That is a very low effort post.

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>>65018922
Those ailerons are just atrocious.

>>65003053
The corruption supposedly involved hot swapping parts that passed inspection onto aircraft at acceptance and swapping commercial stuff back in for delivery. Rumor has it that the same thing was going on with their IAD's programs and that's why they keep being practically useless IRL. But it's mostly the anti 50 cent army reporting that, so take that with a big grain of salt one way or the other.

>>65016875
Is this one any higher?

>>65019044
>Those ailerons are just atrocious.
She's never going to get aeroporn made of her unless she does something about that.

>>65020118
>The corruption supposedly involved
What is your source for this rumour?

>>65020136
>Is this one any higher?
At least it's a neutral bump and not actually rude or hostile.