If Chinese tankers are just freely traversing the Strait of Hormuz, flipping the bird to every gue'la they see, what would be the best US ship to flag them down and charge them a toll? Would you need a full sized AB or just some PT boats? I don't even know if you can pull over someone with an Arleigh Burke, I'm a gun guy not a military guy, please be kind.
>>65003133>charge them a toll?Like $1 per gallon of hold?
Yeah pick up a fight with China when you are losing a war to Iran, very smart
>>65003133>666 KBdemon worshiping brownoid confirmed
>>65003149>losingRent free.
>>65003133For that matter, why isn't China using its immunity from Iranian attacks to amass a huge state owned tanker fleet, rush the straits, load up and ship back crude to China, and then dominate the refined products market for the next few months? Seems like an obvious play
>>65003133>and charge them a tollCharging a toll for international waterways? Sure sounds like piracy.
>>65003133Iran is charging them $2mil to go through there
>>65003162Because building tankers takes months/years.
>>65003195It's really just a protection fee. It's dangerous to travel there, so this is legit.
>>65003231Maybe Iran could just convert it's super carrier fleet to oil tankers and sell them to China?
>>65003241Taxation is theft.
>>65003149When is this happening? We bombed them to shit, now there is less to bomb, and they are out of bombs, now we take Kharg and go home :)
>>65003195Give me one good reason the United States does not have license to perform as much privateering on our enemies as we desire. None of you wanted to have a Navy. "Oh no" you said, "boats are expensive and Navies are very gay". Well we built one and as expensive and gay as it is, we have one and the rest of you don't, so give me one good reason we can't loot anyone who doesn't want to play by the laws of our oceans, which are rightful AMERICAN waters.
>>65003231COSCO already operates the largest tanker fleet in the world. Why isn't it being used? It's state owned so even easier for the Chinese government to order them in
>>65003341Even the most delusional Amerishart poster on /k/ recognizes there is no path to victory for the US
>>65003207Is China paying it?
>>65003133Taxation is the right of a sovereign. To stop them and tax them would be to say they we own the oceans and everyone on it are our subjects, and that would be an act of war.
>>65003341>Give me one good reason the United States does not have license to perform as much privateering on our enemies as we desireThe collapse of the globohomoid system that Amerisharts built for their own benefit.
>>65003348>Washington PostLiterally fake and gay. Iran is gone, thirdie. Iran is cooked. Every missile they fire is one they cannot replace, ever. Their leadership is mostly dead or hiding in holes writing cope posts, and America has complete air superiority. You can't do shit. We won. It's over. There isn't going to be a multipolar world, just centuries of American hegemony until we establish space colonies that turn on us when they begin developing psychic powers or something.
>>65003359We do own them though. How are you going to stop us? >>65003361Why would that happen if countries we're cool with pay us a little tribute and we let them go about their business? View it as...akin to collecting taxes to pay for road repair. Other countries are paying us to keep the sea safe. And if they don't want to play by the rules, they aren't allowed in the water.
>>65003368Because you faggots are already losing a lot of trust among your allies already and acting like a steppenigger Khan on the Oceans is going to make you lose the trust of the rest of the fucking world (as tenuous as it is already).Ironically you might want to ask Imperial fucking China how that sort of tributary relationship mentality goes in the long run.
>>65003241Sounds like pirate talk to me.>>65003341>our enemiesNo state of war exists. Your premise is flawed.>so give me one good reason we can't loot anyone who doesn't want to play by the laws of our oceansOkay. Even your current administration is not retarded enough to consider declaring war on the entire globe a winning move. Unlike (You).Try pirating chinese boats and you'll be at war with the Chinese. Win a war with the Chinese, and the prize will be the end of your nation in nuclear fire. So you can go sit and spin, and no amount of seething on your part is going to change that. Simple as.>picFunny. Remind me, how did all that good business end for him?>>65003362>Iran is goneAh yes, I guess those drones are now just magically appearing out of the ether or something.>We won.You said that in Afghanistan, too. Kept saying it for over twenty years. Yet somehow that victory never appeared.
>>65003368>We do own them though. How are you going to stop us? If you actualyl were retarded enough to try? For starters? Absolute global embargo against the US, immediately and catastrophically crahsing the american economy and reducing the US to a third-world nation overnight, meaning that already overstrwetcehd and undermaintained Navy will quickly deterioate to russian standards.>Why would that happen if countries we're cool with pay us a little tributeThey're "cool with you" exactly becuase there ain't no tribute, retard. Nobody likes pirates.>collecting taxesCan't tax someone without claiming sovereignty over them, and claiming sovereignty over another nation is a declaration of war.>And if they don't want to play by the rules, they aren't allowed in the water.Except the rules say that they are allowed in the water and you're not allowed to touch their boats. And if you don't want to play by the rules, you're no longer allowed to exist as a nation. Simple as.
>>65003378>if we lose a war we'll noooook!Nobody believes that, chang.
I think this thread conclusively proves changs are in fact turd worlders.
>>65003370All you have to trust in is our Aircraft Carriers. >>65003378China would fold to the US even harder than Iran is, because the Chinese know they are a slave race at heart. Iranians can't even manage to take out a single radar, imagine how much worse the Chinese will do.
>>65003387How are you going to embargo the US? Especially without most of those countries just seeking terms rather than rocking the boat? What rules prevent us from torpedoing anyone who doesn't pay tribute and how are you going to stop the US existing as a nation? Literally everything that happens to us economically affects the rest of the world a hundred times worse and can be borne far less by you than by us.
>>65003378>Sounds like pirate talk to me.So are you going to do something about those pirates with your Navy? Oh you don't have a Navy? Skill issue. No warships, no opinion.
>>65003149>losing
>>65003133>gue'laShut the fuck up, blueberry, and stay in your enclave.
Wars over now lol. The big "prize" trump was hinting the iranians dangled is preferential access for US companies to "rebuild and expand" iranian energy
Another literal nothing burgerA month of bombs and back to normalBoth sides now a little more hateful of the other, little gained and something lost
>>65003378Privateer talk actually, it's only piracy if you're a non-state actor
>>65003133>Chinese tankers are just freely traversing the Strait of Hormuzsays who? a few boats passing when several hundred are backed up in the gulf is not a sign of "freely traversing"
>>65003133>>65003341Iran is the one charging tolls right now retard LMAO
>>65005364You tell 'em, Commissar!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R66Rqe_hrI
>>65003610>All you have to trust in is our Aircraft Carriers.
>>65006779None yet to be sunk though.
>>65005571>something lostthe pride and dignity of thirdies worldwide.
>>65006779101 missiles fired101 in the oceanMAGA forever
>>65006640The difference is that Iran can't do shit and America can.
>>65006840>do everything>win
>>65003346Most of them probably already contracted for several voyages, they would be giving up a lot of money telling shippers to fuck off and would be considered unreliable afterwards
>>65006799You usually don't sink your allies carriers when you do exercises with them. You only simulate it and humiliate them.
>>65008558This post right here is the perfect illustration for why face countries lose wars.>do simulation>stack it against yourself as hard as possible>make your allies feel good about themselves when they find a way to sink your carrier under the rules you set for yourself and the countermeasures you admitted to having >note how they did it and plan a counter to it.This is what sensible countries do. What face cultures do is:>do simulation>stack it in their favor>cheer that they won and were not humiliated by finding ways to improveAnd this is why America skullfucked Iran and Russia got skullfucked in Ukraine. Non face culture vs face culture. This is also why all the successful military cultures have haters who whine that we're perfidious and treacherous, from the Romans to the Jews to the USA. Because we don't do your stupid thirdie bullshit.
>>65006640I guess China 'pays' that money into a bank account in China, and Iran uses it to 'buy' Chinese equipment?
>>65010009I'm curious how thirdies think that Russia/China can arm Iran the way NATO could arm Ukraine. I really, really want to see the logic here.
>>65010089the munitions just teleport there when you press the "buy missiles" button bro
>>65010089nta but I'm assuming you're referring to like sabotage of logistical chains for market interactions but I cannot see that happening without incensing Russian or Chinese manufacturers. Idk I get what you're alluding to, the total global air dominance that the US exerts but without roping more combatants into the conflict what use are they outside Iranian military targets and infrastructure? If that's not it then idk what you're referring to
