In a hypothetical societal collapse / civil unrest what sidearm would you want to depend on.Consider spare parts, ammo availability, uniformity, and other bullet points not mentioned in this post.
>>65004428Glock brand glock in 9mm
>>65004428>l societal collapsememe>>65004428leave it to the authoritiesbest bet is an AR, a 12 gague shotgun, a 270 or a bolt action 22 with a silencer. A 44 mag revolver and a backup pair of percussion guns (shotgun/revolver)Guns are tools each has a different apllication that depends on location, threat etc.A 9mm pistol is very little use to a rancher.
>>65004453>t vidya tactilarper who's never been in a warzone or shot anything.
>>65004428Glock 19 Gen 3Colt M4
>>65004459>>t vidya tactilarper who's never been in a warzone or shot anything.
>>65004462cry bout it
>>65004462Why are glocks not ideal? I can’t imagine your talking about m4’s because the military literally uses m4’s
>>65004458that's what is most available and still effective. most mags lying around, most spare parts lying around, most ammunition lying around. >>65004462oh nevermind youre just retarded
>In a hypothetical societal collapseIf you survived it long enough you would be forcibly drafted into a militia or labor camp>muh resistanceYou would be liquidated. >muh ruralYou would be murdered/raped/eaten after days/weeks of being kept awake by raiders who will then take all your shit or burn it along with you.>orYou would be forcibly drafted into a militia or labor camp.>muh groupYou would all be murdered/raped/eaten after days/weeks of being kept awake by raiders who will then take all your shit or burn it along with you.>orYou all would be forcibly drafted into a militia or labor camp
>>65004458>>65004462SOCOM uses Glocks. They have an incredibly long track record and they are like the most populous civilian sidearm.What are you going to choose an M9 or an M17? Lmao
>>65004523All the scenarios where that stuff doesn’t happens paints a slightly different picture tbqh
>>65004523oh and the raiders have forcefields too
>>65004528>>65004536>noooooo you cannot drag me into the harsh light of reality!>i have beans!>beannnnnnnnnnnnnes!2,000 multiplied by 350m.
>>65004554>if society collapses both you and I WILL be raped in the anus by big buff dudes and it may even be enjoyable but regardless it WILL HAPPENnigga get your weird fantasies out of here the adults are talking about reliable weapons
>>65004523this is a retarded take. whites will solidify and do what we do best. war. many, many weak will die as usual and its for the best. the cities will burn, and the worthless wreches that survive will spread like a cancer through the spwarl I to the countryside and will be exterminated through inability, disiease/injury, weather and violence. just 2 more weeks.
>>65004536I guess my question now is how WOULD you deal with a team of raiders who won’t go away yet are watching your home from a hidden position?
>>65004561it's not too difficult anon.https://youtu.be/UVgqzoGp9NQ?si=GUExv3vJYfRnYOrF
>>65004561nta but a series of traps and turrets and then i would eat their flesh and turn their skin into hats to then sell to passing traders
>>65004560NTA, but what do you think “forcibly drafted into a militia” means if not your scenario?
>>65004567>>65004568That’s stupid. I shall not be elaborating.
>>65004561spread my cheeks
>>65004569you might live in an area with alot of people. you can tell by your mindset, the panic you feel about the masses closing in on your 700sq ft apartment. some of us, me included, don't have that problem.
>>65004573lol. Living 10 miles instead of 5 from your local Walmart doesn’t make you a rugged solo frontiersman. Slow your roll, Grizzly Adams.
>>65004570cry harder future hat
>>65004585Please. My ballskin is too vast to fit on your little pin head.
>>65004573>some of us, me included, don't have that problem.>>65004523 is me. It was a response to this>In a hypothetical societal collapse / civil unrestIn a collapse there would mass starvation. You would not be free to be left alone. People coming to take your shit would march emaciated hostages at gunpoint through your "defenses". Unless you live a cave in the middle of no fucking where or plan on existing in a fraidy hole you are delusional.
>>65004582there isn't a Walmart for 250 miles city fag. you have no idea what living outside the wire even means because you guzzle starbucks and cum constantly.
>>65004428>“go to war” pistolThere is none.
>>65004527>SOCOM uses...SOCOM has used Glock 34/17/19s, SIG P226/228/229s, Beretta 92s, HK Mark 23s, SIG P320s, S&W Model 39s (they called them the Mk 22), 1911s, etc. If it mattered that much to you, then you'd know that they are using the SIG P320 right now and pick that garbage.
>>65004428>/k/ommandos, What is the actual best “go to war” pistol for armed civil conflictWhichever one you choose for armed civil conflict is okay. It's, like, the kind of headphones you buy when you listen to Lady Gaga, it's more about your vibe and if it matches your whole aesthetic. Don't let anyone pressure you into, like, buying a gun that doesn't align with your personal war / armed civil conflict journey.
>>65004561>24h watch>.308 with thermal scope>clear sight linestake out a few, try to pop one in the legtrack the blood to their hideout and burn them out
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>>65005100they've used Glocks for longer so keep coping
>>65004428One of the top 3 selling models locally.
>>65005805The pistols in service longest with SOCOM, by far, are the 1911, Standard Series and the Security Six/GP100 series. These had been in service for longer with SOCOM when the Glock came into service than the Glock has been in service today.
>>65005805>they've used Glocks for longerThe gun they've used for the longest is the 1911. In fact, it is still in use by them, so I'd say you are the one who is seething and coping.>so keep copingThat's a weird way to respond to my first message in this thread; to keep doing something implies that I was doing it before the message in question. Just because many messages are coming your way doesn't mean they are all from the same person; grow up.
>>65004428Obviously, the only pistol designed from the get-go for "survival".
>>65004428>nutnfancydon't even think of posting it
>>65006036>the Security Six/GP100 seriesI was in error here and was actually thinking of the Model 10.Although the Six/GP100 series probably also has a longer service life with SOCOM than the Glock, it hadn't been in service for longer than the Glock has now before the Glock was adopted.
>>65006066NTA. I may not agree with all of his takes on guns...>He's constantly fanboying over KelTec even in the videos where they fail his tests.>That man caves at the sight of a gun bunny, he'd suck off any company that brought attractive women to gun shows. He's a slave to his lust.>Instead of making videos on his watches and knives he'd rather dedicate 10-15 minutes of his gun videos to nongun content.>He was among the first people to call a modular rifle a "weapon platform." "OMG it has a picatinny rail, look at this weapon platform that could take a red dot, ACOG, or an LPVO."... but I can appreciate that he convinced many Gen X and Millennial NoShoots to just shoot their guns every once in a while.
>>65006102>He's constantly fanboying over KelTec even in the videos where they fail his tests.My Brother in Christ, that's what we all do. It's like how a car enthusiast will probably recommend a used Toyota Corolla to a relative who needs a car, but finds them boring and is disinterested for all the same reasons they'd make that recommendation. Keltec makes interesting and fun guns, so gun enthusiasts cut them a lot of slack on quality and reliability, but would never actually organisationally procure them or recommend them to a non-enthusiast.Keltec probably could make something minimally novel and minimally innovative that met or exceeded general standards, that we wouldn't need to cut any slack or make excuses for, but we wouldn't even notice it existed and if it's all they made then we wouldn't be talking about Kektek right now at all.
>>65006145>but would never actually organisationally procure them or recommend them to a non-enthusiast.He does both of those things. He constantly endorses the KelTec Sub2000 (for free) to non-enthusiasts even though it had many problems in all three chances he gave that design. The fact is that the company could also make interesting stuff that works reliably. Interesting and functional are not mutually exclusive.
>>65006157I'm going to be real with you, I don't watch guntubers or any kind of parasocial youtube, so I have no clue what nutnfancy does and also don't really care. You are probably right and it's egregious and indefensible shit, I just assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that he was doing the thing every other gun enthusiast does with Kektec.
>>65004454>A 9mm pistol is very little use to a rancherNot if he's a Jolly Rancher.
>>65006051Wow, Han Solo is so cool.
>>65004458>most ubiquitous handgun of all time>parts everywhere >ammo everywhere >magazines everywhere >fewer parts to replace than other sidearms in its class>proven combat track record spanning over 4 decades>proven reliability spanning over 4 decadesyou've never owned a gun and you never will
>>65006369So. Draco.
>>65004428The best go-to-war pistol is a rifle in an intermediate caliber. That space and weight you save by not carrying a pistol gets filled by 2 extra magazines for the aforementioned rifle. Hope this helps.
>>65006375Yes but with a 16" barrel and a proper stock.
>>650044629mm is the most abundant pistol round5.56 is the most abundant rifle roundyou are going to back a 5.7 p90 and a 357 magnum because lol.
>>65006179>I don't watch guntubersYou are a smart guy. I'd say that 98% of the content coming out now sucks; people who disagree with me will say that 100% of the content coming out now sucks.>I just assumedYou are a glass-half-full kind of guy if your assumptions are that people are doing less dumb shit than they actually are.
Can any of the honeypot glowies monitoring this thread post the schematics to make a pipe bomb or nail bomb so that OP can see what people should be carrying in a SHTF/WROL/TEOTWAWKI situation instead of a handgun? We civilians can't buy grenades, but if the world ends, you'll wish you knew how to make homemade variants.
>>65005158>clear sight lines>using a thermal 24/7 >be so fucking good>no body escapes you dont want to>the one you let escape makes it back to his lair>with a .30 cal hole in him>they also dont have thermals>or overwatch>or perimeter security>they are also squatting in an inflammable area as welllol
>>65006036>>65006049>they use Glocks more>BUT 1911skeep cryingGlocks are superior
>>65004568>>65004585Rimworld Chad's rise up.
>>65006587clear sightlines means cutting the trees back 800yds in all direction so they have to cross an open fieldI assume they would attack at night, making the thermal invaluable for scanning the tree linesyou're at home so you can easily switch to another rifle during the day or remove a thermal clip ona heated multi story home with multiple shooting positions, spot lights, decoys can make it hard for them to return accurate fire and they will need to be pretty skilled to do it at distanceif they are watching me from a hidden position I assume it is not fortified and is likely just a quickly thrown together camp that will burn wellRaiders are going to be a group of men too stupid, unprepared and disorganized to provide for themselves or build a community who have been driven to raid by hunger and bad judgementObviously if you are talking special forces or even army deserters I probably wouldn't stand a chance, but they would also be hesitant to assault over open ground and may look for easier prey>many assumptions made, but I'm an American, If I go down I go down shooting
>>65007955I appreciate the well thought out reply but it just further goes to show you have no idea what you're talking about >clear sightlines 800m That means your enemy has clear sightlines>multistory homeA bullet magnet routinely being peppered with rifle fire that causes anxiety and fear in the occupants>assume Bad move. Prevailing winds burning debris. It cost them nothing doing this over and over. Further causing fear and ax anxiety. Over time this compounds>they be dumb and sheeeetAnother bad move. All recorded history tells us quite another story>fortifiedA hole dug in a bump in the ground cost them nothing Good luck engaging that.>burn themAgain you cannot assume you are dealing with morons. Unless you can mount regular patrols of your A/O you are fucked. You're fucked anyway though. If you have a way of sustaining that many people you are a juicy target for people who will take your shit. There is a reason why humanity evolved the way it did. People taking your shit is one of the main reasons,
>>65004428The Beretta. It’s always the fucking Beretta.
>>65006145This. KelTec is the BPD demon emo girl of the gun manufacturing world. You’re going to have a lot of fun in bed but you don’t marry the bitch.
