Why were open sights (aren't they both open? I know I've heard people call peep sights open sights) so much more popular than peep sights on sporting and military rifles for so long? like even now a lot of guns that come with iron sights come with open sights. I know I had a gun with open sights and after I put aftermarket peep sights on it my groups shrunk (and they shrunk even more with a red dot and I have an astigmatism)
>>65006912It takes significantly longer to get a good sight picture on closed sights compared to open sights.Peep sights are better for marksmanship, but marksmanship for the average rifleman is a worthless meme.
>>65006919why is the red dot tied to the handguard?
>>65006912What is your problem with a notch rear? If you're snap shooting, as often happens when game hunting, an open notch gets you on quicker than a peep.
>>65006925Armorer / CEO is a faggot who thinks everything has to be tied down with dummy cord.Does it ever matter? Who knows, they'll have you do it anyway.
>>65006947>CEOCO
>>65006919>>65006941I feel like the peep is quicker. the only open sight I ever shot was a cuckhorn so that also had the added problem of blocking out most of what you're shooting at
>>65006947That shit is always the result of some dumbass who either actually lost their shit because dumbass, or a scumbag who sold it. Armorers are assholes for many, many reasons.
>>65006951>I feel like the peep is quicker.How?It takes way longer for your eye to adjust to the peep sight and form a good sight picture than it does on open sights. It's especially blatant if you're actually moving around and in a combat situation. It might just be a split second, but that's more than enough to matter when you're trying to shoot someone, who might potentially be trying to shoot you.There's a reason why red dot sights are pushed into US military rifles as much as possible. Peep sights fucking suck for everything else except range marksmanship.
>>65006951I put roughly 10,000 rounds through an M16A2 with a peep back then. And another 20,000 through an M60 with an open notch. Nearly 1,000 through a Rem M700BDL, with half being through opens and half through optics. Hundreds and hundreds of other rounds through rifles, shotguns and pistols with peeps, optics and open irons. There is zero comparison on a snap shot. Open rears give a superior accurate reaction snap shot time to all other sights. IF you know what you're doing.
>>65006965>Open rears give a superior accurate reaction snap shot time to all other sights. IF you know what you're doing.truebut the if is a big ifplenty of people never learned or got more than basic proficiency now people dont even want to attempt and skip direct to reddots.
>>65006960>How?face hit stocksee out of hole to front sight vsface hit stockneed to find rear sightneed to find front sightneed to center front sight in rear sight>>65006965not readin all that larp shit boomer
>>65007095>face hit stock>see out of hole to front sightHave you ever actually aimed out of peep sights?Your eyes require focus and take a moment to actually adjust to the small hole in front of you, trying to grasp the front sights beyond that hole and build a proper sight picture.With open sights you can just line the two up with minimal focus and start shooting.
>>65007104>>65006960>>65007038I have peep sights on all my rifles. maybe your eyes are just shit but I can see through the front sight fine. It's way quicker to pick up the front sight than to have to align the front and rear for open sights>muh red dotnot really part of the discussion and red dots are better because I can both eyes open with them. I really don't notice it taking that long to get my sights aligned with a peep
>>65007095I'm so sorry your single-mom forced you to grow up to be illiterate, zoomer
>>65007137my parents have been married for 40 years. I just don't read the writings of homosexuals
>>65007143Apparently, you're too stupid to understand. Sorry for too many big words, bestest boy.
>>65007152no, it's not an issue of intelligence. the issue is I just don't respect homosexuals
>>65007104>Peep sights are always super smallNo. Stop confusing the type of sight with the size of the aperture.
>>65006912It's faster (read: cheaper) to machine or stamp notches than it is to drill tiny holes.
>>65006919>It takes significantly longer to get a good sight picture on closed sights compared to open sights.Its opposite.Aperture sights work like red dot. You dont need to line up front post inside circle much. Juts place front post on target like red dot.
>>65008697Aperture sight needs to be smaller than eye's pupil for it to work like red dot.
>>65007166we both know you don't have a wife, fatso. you are on /k/ at 5 am, you are obviously some kind of fat thirdie homosexual who blows migrants>>65008704makes sense
>>65007166>pretending you have a wife>pretending you browse 4chan with her>on /k/ of all placesOnly way this could possibly be more pathetic is if you were on /a/.
>>65007166>instantly thinks about black penis and gay things to do with them.Oh you just KNOW this anon loves his rears open
>>65008697>>65008900this>>65009182>>65009209also this
>>65009030>on /k/ at 5amShocking that a couple having jobs in public safety and hospital would lead to early hours, right? The lady doth protest too much about his closet faggotry.
>>65009182>>65009209Double samefagging is a sure sign of an insecurity syndrome. Your drunk single-mother obviously pinched your peepee a lot last week because men bad.
>>65009755The lady doth protest too much about his closet faggotry.but enough about you, no gunz homo
>>65007143Haha, you just did! Checkmate!
why does a discussion on iron sights devolve into a homosexuality competition (with unnecessary personal details thrown in) in under 30 replies
>>65009861less than one percent of /k/ owns guns, and 100 percent of /k/ is homosexual in some shape or form. Now, Tonto, bring that ass over here or I’m gonna play canasta with your grandma and then after that push you down the stairs.
>>65009861a no gunz yuro boomer likes to shit up gun threads during yuro hours
>>65009755>Shocking that a couple having jobs in public safety and hospital Just say you're a security guard at a hospital next time.
>>65007104>Your eyes require focus and take a moment to actually adjust to the small hole in front of youWell there's your problem. You're not supposed to pay attention to the hole, only the front sight. If you're eyes are adjusting to the rear sight you're doing it wrong.
>>65006912Peep sights SUCK ASS. They cover like all of your vision and target. Fuck peep sights. Me and my homies hate peep sights.
>>65011065>t. no gunz vidya player
>>65011030The hole is the empty space through which you are looking, not the rear sight around it. The front sight is IN the hole.
>>65012906which is super quick to do compared to aligning open sights
>>65006912older people were a lot better shooters than you and needed elevation adjustment
>>65013191I have elevation adjustments on my peep sight, retardo.